When I find my webserver compromised and used as a warez server, are you saying I shouldn't lock it down because this will " undoubtedly upset someone with the means to launch an attack equivalent to the attacks {I} suffered recently"??
nobody is compromising their servers when they share files, and warez aren't stored on their servers. the network itself has no connection with the alleged filetrading.
I can speculate why they are enforcing this policy. When you run a community service where time, money, resources and effort are donnated by a large number of people for a certain purpose and a large number of the users use it for an entirely differnet purpose, costing you a lot of resources, and then also attack the service so that user you want to support can't use it, I guess I personally would be a little pissed.
the people attacking the servers aren't the people who are doing the filesharing. the people doing the filesharing are the people just minding their own business, using dalnet as a starting point for whatever it is they do online.
The users they want are the users that want the services DALnet was originally designed for.
who are you to say what dalnet wants? believe me, if filesharing was putting such a huge strain load on the servers, it would have been stopped years ago.
Do you think losing lots of hangers on is really going to worry them - every user on the system costs some supporter of DALnet money somewhere, its not like a membership site where they get revenue. Explain to me if I run a DALnet server why exactly I should be worried about losing users that use my box to swap warez, p0rn or coordinate a Sub7 attack on another machine?
yes. you can't have an irc network without users. you can set up servers, sure. but if there's nobody on them, you're wasting your time.
DALNet is a free service, they are not required to provide YOU with what YOU want, they are not a government aganecy or a paid membership site. YOU have a choice of IRC servers, and if you don't like any of them go ahead and set your own up.
yes, dalnet is free. no, they're not required to provide me what i want. i do have a choice of irc servers. this is irrelevant.
the point is, dalnet is trying to accomplish something unreasonable. it's going to upset a lot of people, and will almost certainly provoke another barrage of attacks on their network. that to me seems like a silly tradeoff..lose a tiny amount of load on the servers caused by filesharing channels, and prompt another series of attacks, crippling their servers again
the servers on dalnet used to have a little message in their motd's about irc being an "unmoderated medium". apparently, this is no longer the case.
i can only speculate about why this policy is being enacted, but as far as the result, wd had it pegged. they're shooting themselves in the foot. if it's enforced at all, a good chunk of the users that stuck around despite the recent attacks will abandon it without a moments hesitation.
as well, this will undoubtedly upset someone with the means to launch an attack equivalent to the attacks they suffered recently.
this is a bad idea, and they know it.
as a side note, support for this policy on the (moderated) mailing list is overwhelming!
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I don't really see the point of having a huge button for dialing 911.. it's really not that hard to dial, is it?
The website doesn't say, but I'd also be interested to know if dialing 911 is still allowed after your minutes have expired.
The post doesn't say the users aren't aware of it, it refers to the users being unware that they're acting as spam relays.
More ISP's should do the same.
Period.
a better definition, imho.
nobody is compromising their servers when they share files, and warez aren't stored on their servers. the network itself has no connection with the alleged filetrading.
the people attacking the servers aren't the people who are doing the filesharing. the people doing the filesharing are the people just minding their own business, using dalnet as a starting point for whatever it is they do online.
who are you to say what dalnet wants? believe me, if filesharing was putting such a huge strain load on the servers, it would have been stopped years ago.
yes. you can't have an irc network without users. you can set up servers, sure. but if there's nobody on them, you're wasting your time.
yes, dalnet is free. no, they're not required to provide me what i want. i do have a choice of irc servers. this is irrelevant.
the point is, dalnet is trying to accomplish something unreasonable. it's going to upset a lot of people, and will almost certainly provoke another barrage of attacks on their network. that to me seems like a silly tradeoff..lose a tiny amount of load on the servers caused by filesharing channels, and prompt another series of attacks, crippling their servers again
where's the payoff?
the servers on dalnet used to have a little message in their motd's about irc being an "unmoderated medium". apparently, this is no longer the case.
i can only speculate about why this policy is being enacted, but as far as the result, wd had it pegged. they're shooting themselves in the foot. if it's enforced at all, a good chunk of the users that stuck around despite the recent attacks will abandon it without a moments hesitation.
as well, this will undoubtedly upset someone with the means to launch an attack equivalent to the attacks they suffered recently.
this is a bad idea, and they know it.
as a side note, support for this policy on the (moderated) mailing list is overwhelming!