People demand hybrid cars, but don't drive them because they don't have enough power to excessively speed in city.
People demand low power [re: less heat] computers than buy Athlon 3200+...
People are worried of dying at age 20 from coronary diesease then eat a 25pc bucket to themselves...
Just because you can come up with examples that are ironic, doesn't mean they are correct. When you put millions of people on the planet with the free will to make their own choices you get a PLURALITY of opinion about things and those opinions are independent and may or may not overlap across issues:
The people who choose to drive something else because hybrids don't meet their needs are very likely not the same individuals demanding that hybrids be produced; the people who want and need low-power processors are DEFINITELY not the same people who are in the market for high-end Athlons; and if you can find a twenty-something who is genuinely concered about coronary disease **AND** can horf down a 25 piece bucket of the Colonel's best, I'll buy the cole slaw.
If/. is evidence of anything, it's that groups (two or more) do not monolithically agree on ANYthing.
P.S. About hybrids: who are they for, anyway - rich people who don't have anywhere to go? They're a product without a US market, and if they are going to sell in any significant quantity in the US, where things are pretty spread out, the price needs to be lower. MUCH lower, like $10,000 or lower. Their target should be first cars for kids just out of college and second cars in two-wage-earner households. Hell, I'd probably buy one at that price, but not as my first car.
P.P.S. While I'm ranting, Different processors for different needs - that's why we have a market where people can choose freely. Maybe enough people choose A over B that it becomes economically impractical to offer B, but it won't vanish because we all got together, took a vote and sent off a letter to manufacturer B saying "You suck, go away." It'll vanish because it couldn't garner enough support to make itself worthwhile.
[DISCLAIMER: This might sound like an attack, so I'm sorry - I don't intend it as such. Most of this is not directed at you, but at a line of VERY sloppy thinking that cannot cope with sociological and economic reality. Plus, this is a pet peeve of mine when people bitch about why the rest of the group doesn't have the same priorities as the people that are bitching. I could write more, but it's late and I am tired.]
Do you want people to take Linux seriously as an alternative to Windows for anything beyond Apache and Sendmail? Everyone starts at zero for everything, so I'm not sure why it's a bad idea to learn from configs that have been done and redone a zillion times already. I'm also not saying that the work is finished when the script is installed, either -- there's loads of tweaking and tuning to be done later -- but if you give new users a ledge to start from, it's an easier climb for them.
No, no, no. This is a GREAT idea - think about it like "C Code Snippets" for Linux configuration files. Here are a few examples:
Case #1 I need a config file for Samba to emulate an NT4 PDC. I download the prewritten boilerplate config file, change the domain name, put it in/etc, restart Samba and I'm in business.
Case #2 Or how about a config file for Sendmail that uses Spam Assassin for spam filtering and renattach for viruses.
Case #3 I want to turn my old 386 into a Linksys-style NAT box. The only imbound port I need mapped is my web server (port 80). You got config files for that?
Case #4 Shared email address books with LDAP. I want to run an LDAP server with slapd to provide shared email address books, but I don't want to use LDAP for any sort of network authentication. I just want users to be able to create folders and contacts and move the contacts around in the folders (and add, change, delete and update them, of course.) Apparently, I'm the only person that ever thought of doing this because I haven't found ANY docs anywhere that describe this sort of thing.
Your target audience here is beginners and administrators who are migrating to Linux services who want to get things working without having to read and decode **ALL** of the documentation up front.
Let's face it, with if you take any given piece of software,there really are only a few different basic configs most people want to start out with, and once you get basic functionality in place, you can tweak to customize from there. Hey, they did it with sendmail, right?
I would argue that with the sole exception of teaching computer programming (starting around the 8th grade or so), classrooms do not need computers -- they are an unnecessary and destructive distraction.
Ultimately, yeah, for chronic rulebreakers, but I think there's some room fun here with people who have found abusive (and creative) ways to manipulate the bits. You wanna be a SimGangser? Fine, but the game has consequences, and some of them involve having your character locked in a cell alone with nothing to do for three weeks while the people you robbed get all your stuff. Think of it like an account suspension, except that it gives the convicted a more clear sense of punishment.
Anyone know what they're doin' to the perpetrators? I think a large-simolean fine (paid to victims) and a couple of weeks with their Sims being isolated in an 8x8 cell in the crossbar hotel would be fitting.
You know, with all these ridiculous stipulations, it seems to me that it would be a lot easier if we just download the Linux source and read the "offending" code out of there.
Maybe someone will write a virus that has as its payload a small distributed network app that hijacks CPU cycles on every PC with Palladium enabled to brute force the BIOS's private key. (You know, because every PC will need to have a copy of the central public key so it can verify signed code.)
Would that actually work? I mean, a **single** point of failure - what would they do - revoke and reissue the core keypair? Is my PC not gonna work if it isn't on the net because it has to have a way of checking for the revocation certificate? Anyone else thought about stuff like this? I gotta admit, I'm new to PKI and cryptography, and thinking about it kinda hurts sometimes. (It actually reminds me of when I took Quantum Mechanics the first time as an undergrad - you just kinda have to stare at it long enough that you get used to it and the pain goes away.) And this is starting to freak me out a little, so I'm going to bed now. Bye.
The shuttle is experiencing the same gravitational acceleration (tho it has engines capable of overcoming) and besides, this impact was too quick for gravity to matter, so gravity is negligible. At 1 part in 220,000, I think I'm pretty safe with that one. If you don't believe, me, think about it this way: Let's say I'm way off and it took a whole second for the foam to break off and impact the wing (which it didn't - the actual time was much shorter). Then gravity added 32ft/s to the final speed of the foam and 32/733 = 4% of final speed making worst case assuptions.
What bothers me is the 500 miles per hour number. It's irrelevant how fast the foam was moving relative to the ground, only how fast it was going relative to the shuttle wing. And since this liftoff was very non-realativistic, we can use classical kinematics:
This foam was attached to the tank at lift-off, right? That means it was going the same speed as the shuttle at that instant it broke off. THAT means that RELATIVE TO THE SHUTTLE, it accelerated from zero to 500 mph (AGAIN, ELATIVE TO THE SHUTTLE) in the space of 200 ft or so. Well, using the kinematics equation:
Vf^2 - Vi^2 = 2ad
with:
d = (worst case for most acceleration) = shuttle length = 200 ft,
Vi=0
Vf = 500 mph = 733 ft/sec
gives
acceleration = a = (Vf^2 - Vi^2)/2d = 733^2/(.0379 * 2)= 7088245 ft/sec^2 = 220000 times the acceleration due to gravity!
Check my numbers, please, but that seems a little high to be caused by braking due to air resistance.
Microsoft will have to do a better job of persuading customers it has something they need
How can you be this smart and this delusional at the same time? You want to make Linux functionally irrelevant as a business OS? Here are some **REAL** ideas off the top of my head:
1) Abandon Palladium. We really don't want to use our PCs to watch movies - we have $50 DVD players for that -- see #3. 'Nuff said.
2) For that matter, your EULAs are WAY THE F___ OUT OF CONTROL. "Hmmm, it sure is an important OS security patch, but damned if I'm gonna install it because it sez right here that doing so gives MS the right to control my PC." I don't care what you *intend*, that's what it sez. If you want to control what's on my PC and what I can do with it, then you buy it for me, Mkay?
3) Quit stalking your customers like a collections company. Abolish Open Licensing 6.0 and this *STUPID* software-by-subscription idea of yours. (If you want me to re-buy your software every year, those annual subscription fees are going to have to be lower -- a **LOT** **F___'IN** **LOWER**. Office '95 was good enough for me.
4) Admit that your security problems are a direct result of your insistance in violating the #1 rule of software design: YOU NEVER MIX CODE AND DATA TOGETHER. You have specifically engineered every product you sell to be scriptable. STOP IT! Remove the OS-level scripting capabilities from your products and provide patches to your current customers to do the same on previous versions.
5) You guys are acting like the software engineering divisions at HP! Stop trying to improve things that don't need improving and realize that the only perfection is simplicity. Go out and play some golf, maybe take some dancing lessons.;)
Sure, I like Linux, but I also like Windows. My problem is that even though I have already given you my hard-earned money many times over, I feel like you've nailed a bulls-eye on my back and handed out shotguns to all your beer-swilling pals.
I am exploring alternatives because sticking with you is like being a hostage (as in gun-to-the-head) in a car speeding down a desert highway. If I jump out, it'll hurt, but once I stop rolling, get up, brush myself off and walk back to town, I'll be in control again.
Wow, not-so-ironically, it **really** **is** much more about 'freedom' than 'free'-dom.
It's a CLI package manager. You type 'emerge gnuchess' and portage goes out to the Gentoo server, finds the gnuchess source code package, downloads it, asks you some config questions, makes it (compiling from source using optimized compiler settings you've already set up) and installs it.
The advantage is that you get exactly what you ask for, compiled from the ORIGINAL SOURECE. Since you compiled it yourself, you can optimize the compiler to build for your specific platform only.
Slashdot Mirror
People demand hybrid cars, but don't drive them because they don't have enough power to excessively speed in city.
People demand low power [re: less heat] computers than buy Athlon 3200+
People are worried of dying at age 20 from coronary diesease then eat a 25pc bucket to themselves...
Just because you can come up with examples that are ironic, doesn't mean they are correct. When you put millions of people on the planet with the free will to make their own choices you get a PLURALITY of opinion about things and those opinions are independent and may or may not overlap across issues:
The people who choose to drive something else because hybrids don't meet their needs are very likely not the same individuals demanding that hybrids be produced; the people who want and need low-power processors are DEFINITELY not the same people who are in the market for high-end Athlons; and if you can find a twenty-something who is genuinely concered about coronary disease **AND** can horf down a 25 piece bucket of the Colonel's best, I'll buy the cole slaw.
If
P.S. About hybrids: who are they for, anyway - rich people who don't have anywhere to go? They're a product without a US market, and if they are going to sell in any significant quantity in the US, where things are pretty spread out, the price needs to be lower. MUCH lower, like $10,000 or lower. Their target should be first cars for kids just out of college and second cars in two-wage-earner households. Hell, I'd probably buy one at that price, but not as my first car.
P.P.S. While I'm ranting, Different processors for different needs - that's why we have a market where people can choose freely. Maybe enough people choose A over B that it becomes economically impractical to offer B, but it won't vanish because we all got together, took a vote and sent off a letter to manufacturer B saying "You suck, go away." It'll vanish because it couldn't garner enough support to make itself worthwhile.
[DISCLAIMER: This might sound like an attack, so I'm sorry - I don't intend it as such. Most of this is not directed at you, but at a line of VERY sloppy thinking that cannot cope with sociological and economic reality. Plus, this is a pet peeve of mine when people bitch about why the rest of the group doesn't have the same priorities as the people that are bitching. I could write more, but it's late and I am tired.]
Wow, it's gonna suck upgrading all of those when new a kernel comes out.
BILLY!
Stop teasing the robot! You wouldn't like it if researchers kept taking your oblong right parallelipiped!
webopedia.com
whatis.com
Well, according to SCO, the LVM support in Linux was added by IBM, so it's probably pretty good.
(/me ducks)
Do the 1045-Hours-Free CDs do more damage than the older 720-Hours-Free CDs?
...
....because, you know, it might be time for an upgrade.
Do you want people to take Linux seriously as an alternative to Windows for anything beyond Apache and Sendmail? Everyone starts at zero for everything, so I'm not sure why it's a bad idea to learn from configs that have been done and redone a zillion times already. I'm also not saying that the work is finished when the script is installed, either -- there's loads of tweaking and tuning to be done later -- but if you give new users a ledge to start from, it's an easier climb for them.
No, no, no. This is a GREAT idea - think about it like "C Code Snippets" for Linux configuration files. Here are a few examples:
Case #1
I need a config file for Samba to emulate an NT4 PDC. I download the prewritten boilerplate config file, change the domain name, put it in
Case #2
Or how about a config file for Sendmail that uses Spam Assassin for spam filtering and renattach for viruses.
Case #3
I want to turn my old 386 into a Linksys-style NAT box. The only imbound port I need mapped is my web server (port 80). You got config files for that?
Case #4
Shared email address books with LDAP. I want to run an LDAP server with slapd to provide shared email address books, but I don't want to use LDAP for any sort of network authentication. I just want users to be able to create folders and contacts and move the contacts around in the folders (and add, change, delete and update them, of course.) Apparently, I'm the only person that ever thought of doing this because I haven't found ANY docs anywhere that describe this sort of thing.
Your target audience here is beginners and administrators who are migrating to Linux services who want to get things working without having to read and decode **ALL** of the documentation up front.
Let's face it, with if you take any given piece of software,there really are only a few different basic configs most people want to start out with, and once you get basic functionality in place, you can tweak to customize from there. Hey, they did it with sendmail, right?
I would argue that with the sole exception of teaching computer programming (starting around the 8th grade or so), classrooms do not need computers -- they are an unnecessary and destructive distraction.
Sure - both are subject to the political whims of the U.S. Congress.
Just make sure you use the -ex switch for maximum compression - believe me, you want this thing as small as possible.
(Yes, your ass runs DOS -- why is that funny?)
Ultimately, yeah, for chronic rulebreakers, but I think there's some room fun here with people who have found abusive (and creative) ways to manipulate the bits. You wanna be a SimGangser? Fine, but the game has consequences, and some of them involve having your character locked in a cell alone with nothing to do for three weeks while the people you robbed get all your stuff. Think of it like an account suspension, except that it gives the convicted a more clear sense of punishment.
Anyone know what they're doin' to the perpetrators? I think a large-simolean fine (paid to victims) and a couple of weeks with their Sims being isolated in an 8x8 cell in the crossbar hotel would be fitting.
Entirely off-topic and straight out of Compton, I have exactly the same complaint about credit card companies - I hope they go out of business, too.
Worse, wouldn't that GPL SCO's own code?
(heh,heh)
You know, with all these ridiculous stipulations, it seems to me that it would be a lot easier if we just download the Linux source and read the "offending" code out of there.
What do they think we're gonna do -- *STEAL* it?
One concerned mother even has to keep her spouse in check as well: "My husband is a little hard to control."
And as all you married men out there know, it's ALL about control.
This is kinda where PKI shows signs of breaking.
Maybe someone will write a virus that has as its payload a small distributed network app that hijacks CPU cycles on every PC with Palladium enabled to brute force the BIOS's private key. (You know, because every PC will need to have a copy of the central public key so it can verify signed code.)
Would that actually work? I mean, a **single** point of failure - what would they do - revoke and reissue the core keypair? Is my PC not gonna work if it isn't on the net because it has to have a way of checking for the revocation certificate? Anyone else thought about stuff like this? I gotta admit, I'm new to PKI and cryptography, and thinking about it kinda hurts sometimes. (It actually reminds me of when I took Quantum Mechanics the first time as an undergrad - you just kinda have to stare at it long enough that you get used to it and the pain goes away.) And this is starting to freak me out a little, so I'm going to bed now. Bye.
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
Moreso, would it be possible to fake out Palladium-dependent software by running it in an emulator that simulates the undelying Palladium subsystem?
What does a program REALLY KNOW about where it lives?
Wow, This is JUST like "The Matrix".
CRAP! I think you found it. That's what I get for switching units. ;(
The shuttle is experiencing the same gravitational acceleration (tho it has engines capable of overcoming) and besides, this impact was too quick for gravity to matter, so gravity is negligible. At 1 part in 220,000, I think I'm pretty safe with that one. If you don't believe, me, think about it this way: Let's say I'm way off and it took a whole second for the foam to break off and impact the wing (which it didn't - the actual time was much shorter). Then gravity added 32ft/s to the final speed of the foam and 32/733 = 4% of final speed making worst case assuptions.
What bothers me is the 500 miles per hour number. It's irrelevant how fast the foam was moving relative to the ground, only how fast it was going relative to the shuttle wing. And since this liftoff was very non-realativistic, we can use classical kinematics:
This foam was attached to the tank at lift-off, right? That means it was going the same speed as the shuttle at that instant it broke off. THAT means that RELATIVE TO THE SHUTTLE, it accelerated from zero to 500 mph (AGAIN, ELATIVE TO THE SHUTTLE) in the space of 200 ft or so. Well, using the kinematics equation:
Vf^2 - Vi^2 = 2ad
with:
d = (worst case for most acceleration) = shuttle length = 200 ft,
Vi=0
Vf = 500 mph = 733 ft/sec
gives
acceleration = a = (Vf^2 - Vi^2)/2d = 733^2/(.0379 * 2)= 7088245 ft/sec^2 = 220000 times the acceleration due to gravity!
Check my numbers, please, but that seems a little high to be caused by braking due to air resistance.
Microsoft will have to do a better job of persuading customers it has something they need
How can you be this smart and this delusional at the same time? You want to make Linux functionally irrelevant as a business OS? Here are some **REAL** ideas off the top of my head:
1) Abandon Palladium. We really don't want to use our PCs to watch movies - we have $50 DVD players for that -- see #3. 'Nuff said.
2) For that matter, your EULAs are WAY THE F___ OUT OF CONTROL. "Hmmm, it sure is an important OS security patch, but damned if I'm gonna install it because it sez right here that doing so gives MS the right to control my PC." I don't care what you *intend*, that's what it sez. If you want to control what's on my PC and what I can do with it, then you buy it for me, Mkay?
3) Quit stalking your customers like a collections company. Abolish Open Licensing 6.0 and this *STUPID* software-by-subscription idea of yours. (If you want me to re-buy your software every year, those annual subscription fees are going to have to be lower -- a **LOT** **F___'IN** **LOWER**. Office '95 was good enough for me.
4) Admit that your security problems are a direct result of your insistance in violating the #1 rule of software design: YOU NEVER MIX CODE AND DATA TOGETHER. You have specifically engineered every product you sell to be scriptable. STOP IT! Remove the OS-level scripting capabilities from your products and provide patches to your current customers to do the same on previous versions.
5) You guys are acting like the software engineering divisions at HP! Stop trying to improve things that don't need improving and realize that the only perfection is simplicity. Go out and play some golf, maybe take some dancing lessons.
Sure, I like Linux, but I also like Windows. My problem is that even though I have already given you my hard-earned money many times over, I feel like you've nailed a bulls-eye on my back and handed out shotguns to all your beer-swilling pals.
I am exploring alternatives because sticking with you is like being a hostage (as in gun-to-the-head) in a car speeding down a desert highway. If I jump out, it'll hurt, but once I stop rolling, get up, brush myself off and walk back to town, I'll be in control again.
Wow, not-so-ironically, it **really** **is** much more about 'freedom' than 'free'-dom.
It's a CLI package manager. You type 'emerge gnuchess' and portage goes out to the Gentoo server, finds the gnuchess source code package, downloads it, asks you some config questions, makes it (compiling from source using optimized compiler settings you've already set up) and installs it.
The advantage is that you get exactly what you ask for, compiled from the ORIGINAL SOURECE. Since you compiled it yourself, you can optimize the compiler to build for your specific platform only.
I can't wait until we see what the Gentoo team has prepared."
Maybe I'm going out on a limb here, but shouldn't it be just like portage on Gentoo? Macs *DO* have CLI's now, right?