RTFFoF! It doesn't matter that the competitors harmed themselves, what matters is that a company with Monopoly power used undue influence to squash competition.
I'm getting so sick of this arguement, I've been paying close attention to this industry since 1984. All that M$ has done since then is 1) use unfair licenscing(sp?) to keep competitors from getting a foothold (DR-DOS, Navigator, OS/2), spread massive amounts of FUD about competitors technology (Apple, Novel, Unix, Linux), use pre-announcements to quell the competitions momentum (Cairo anyone?) and purchase their competitors(RealNetworks (kinda), and a whole slew of others).
Think about it this way, closest thing to a competitor to come along in the last 5 years is FREE!!! This only way that non-MS programmers have been able to innovate is to DONATE OUR SERVICES.
Doesn't that indicate that there is something wrong in Redmond?????
Do your homework before you put your foot in your mouth, microserf.
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We'd probably see a lot of different projects start up _real_ quick. Initially, the biggest benefit would be to the various whine-like projects...
Longer term, I don't know if the Windows source was dragged through the coals like Linux has been, it could be a system worth using.... (Personally, I think I'd stick with Linux because the Unix world makes a little too much sense to me....:) )
I'll just repeat it back in my own words, and if I'm wrong please correct me.
I wrote a novel and encrypted it with say PGP so I can send it via email to publishers. If some one writes a program that cracks PGP, I can sue them for Copyright violation?
Sounds like a great way to prevent unemployed lawyers running around looking for a battle.
but at the same time security minded people wouldn't be using OE in the first place.
BZZZZZT. Wrong! Do not progress to the lightening round. Some of us security-minded people (i.e. me!) are forced to use OE/Outlook for work.
PS. Doesn't it annoy you that companies copyright abbrivations? For example theat should've been i.e.(tm), but tm is trademarked (by the transcendental mediatation folks) so it really should be i.e.(tm(tm))... but tm is trademarked by... you get my point.
Right but my point is that violation of copyright can easily be achieved via email, the web or a copier. Are Microsoft/AOL/Qualcomm/Xerox liable for copyright? I'm not attacking, I'm seriously asking a serious question.
if cutting them off the 'net which causes them to fail out, all that does is benefit CMU. If half of the 71 fail out CMU gain $25,000(est)*36(rounded up)=$900,000. _AND_ CMU looks good for doing it. A fairer verdict would be to expell them but return the pro-rated room/board and tuition. Also mark on their transcript "expelled for violation of federal copyright law."
Basically what I object to is CMU gaining finicially from their students breaking the law.
I don't have a problem (well I do but that's another post) with "the law" being enforce here, just the way CMU is taking advantage of the situation.
I'm sorry that you had such a rough time. However, your post has almost nothing to do with what I wrote. I wrote the use and distrubution of pirated software was common while I attended. While I agree that CMU has made some _incredibly_ draconian rulings, (and that CS students tend to get the brunt of said ruling) it is really not relevant to what I was saying.
However, users, understandably, don't want every move of theirs tracked - presumably with the worry that they will in the end, be held accountable for that time they typed in www.pr0n4u.com.
No No No No NO No
It has absolutely NOTHING to do with people finding out we go to porn sites. This is like saying "Your against illegal search and seziure, you must have something to hide."
I don't go to p0rn sites. I'm recently married (in July) and haven't had the desire to view such material for the last 2 years. However, I don't want companies looking around at my web browsing patterns... why? It's none of their god damned bussiness how, when, why or where I browse the web.
I have no problem with them tracking people who don't mind giving out personal information to companies that may or may not be ethical, but give me to option to not give out this info. It's that simple.
has my alma mater changed! I was there from '90-94 (in the Physics Dept.), and pirated software was *freely* availible not only on the appletalk networks, but also on the unix boxes. (I never used the pc's so I don't know about them). It was not only well known but joked about amongst the CCONs and UCONs (sysadmin/tech support folks).
Now they are suspending rights to 'net some kids because of mp3s? At a school like that I think that is very unusually harsh. In the pre-Mosiac days, it was very common for profs. to _require_ you to run or read maiterial that was posted either on the intra- or inter-net. This seems highly cruel to me, since it makes it very likely the kids'll fail out.
Note: I did _not_ download or use any of this software. For most of my stay there, I had no computer of my own, but for my freshman year I had an Amiga (which was unsupported). My views of pirated software and software pirates are my own, and I do not choose to share them in a public forum.
has my alma mater changed! I was there from '90-94 (in the Physics Dept.), and pirated software was *freely* availible not only on the appletalk networks, but also on the unix boxes. (I never used the pc's so I don't know about them). It was not only well known but joked about amongst the CCONs and UCONs (sysadmin/tech support folks).
Now they are suspending rights to 'net some kids because of mp3s? At a school like that I think that is very unusually harsh. In the pre-Mosiac days, it was very common for profs. to _require_ you to run or read maiterial that was posted either on the intra- or inter-net. This seems highly cruel to me, since it makes it very likely the kids'll fail out.
Note: I did _not_ download or use any of this software. For most of my stay there, I had no computer of my own, but for my freshman year I had an Amiga (which was unsupported). My views of pirated software and software pirates are my own, and I do not choose to share them in a public forum.
Let me start this off buy saying that I've finally come _back_ to the linux community after an extended vaction. [I used linux extensively from 96-97 and then stopped until recently, long story....]
Ok, let's think about this, what tech story spread the word about open source more than any other? Hmm.... Well, there were huge gains in market share before the trail, but the only people to read those where techies (and we already knew!).
By some ironic twist of fate, IMOSHO, the anti-trust trial not only spread the word about Linux but took it and shoved it under the nose of Mr & Ms. Joe Average. Linux coverage has now become a staple of the internet and bussiness section. Partially because those who are better programmers than I put in a lotta hours, but partially because M$ tried to use it to "prove" there was competition.
I sympathize. I'm oddly exicted and nervous et al. The one thing that I keep coming back to though is that this industry can't get any more screwed up than it is....
It's an industry where (for the most part) the unknowledgeable make the desicions (accounts, PHB, etc.), absolutely everyone is an "expert". (Oh yeah, I can program see I have a computer and a copy of VB for dummies), and for the last ten years the better technology has been beaten in the marketplace. Let's face it, this is one fsck'd up industry.
Could it get worse? Probably, whether MS wins or loses we are probably going to see more changes in the next 10 years than we have seen since the advent of the Altair. We are about to enter an age where computers are so cheap, and so small that there are going to permeate(sp?) our lives. It's going to be an exciting, thrilling and confusing time. And hopefully, when we are done, we can look at one and other and go "Whooooo! Good Job!"
Are people (MSCE's and the like) going to lose jobs? Some, maybe if they are really bad... but I doubt it, your employeer already has a lot of time and money invested in you. (that's a general you not the specific:) ) It's highly unlikely that they are going to bring in a Linux Guru to rewrite your product when it's going to be cheaper to just train you in linux since you know the requirements already.
Also, the one thing I keep seeing (or maybe it's my imagination) is the idea that the finding of fact (or penalties or whatever) is going to come out and MS is going to curl up and die... Even after all the appeals and so on, some form of the Windows franchise will still be here. The best we can hope is to profit from the confusion and doubt about the future. I don't mean FUD, good lord I hate FUD....
What I mean is when people say things like "Sure I don't like windows, but what else is there." (a phrase I here almost daily from non-techs) TELL THEM. Don't preach, don't sermonize... just say, "Well there's Linux, BEOS, Mac, FreeBSD, ad nauseum." (If I forgot anyone I'm sorry!). If they are truely interested, try to show them a demo of a couple different OS's (and with linux a couple different wm & (KDE | GNOME) packages). See what happens... you might be suprised and how few people actually know there are alternatives!
Well I've rambled on and on and on and on... I think I'm going to go do some work....
Maybe phone rates went up for you. But in severely rural areas it's been quite different.
My mother paid $90+ for the priveledge of haveing a phone. No long distance, no local tolls. That was her base rate + phone rental (the area she livs in didn't allow personal ownership of the phones). Almost any call was LD since anything more than five miles was considered LD. (There was nothing to call within 5 miles except Cows in the field).
Since the breakup that has drop to around $30. (Base rate, no phone rental since they change the rules).
I totally agree that AT&T did some amazing things, but so did IBM and I can only see good things coming from the fall from grace of big blue.
[Poss. Bias Note: My father was employeed by IBM until the early 70's]
Have you ever bothered to try anything that didn't have microsoft's logo on it?
>Windows users don't have to reboot every day, and >suffer a crash less than once >a month. NT smokes that And do you know how much an employeer loses from that once a month crash. I don't even really think once a month is acceptable.... And yeah, I _was_ an NT admin, if nt smokes that then I'll let you paint my ass purple.
> if you're having to reboot daily or more often >you've either got screwed up hardware or you've >managed to screw >up your system somehow. _EVERY_ Computer I've ever used? Even though they came out of the box from Dell, Compaq or Gateway? Even though linux was later installed on two of them and thye have _NEVER_ crashed since? Come'on are you Mr. Gates' lovemonkey or something???? According to the 99.99% uptime that some NT resellers are promising, it works out to a reboot a week. No one in the industry is willing to put their bussiness on the line for what you are claiming.
>No matter how many times its repeated on/. it >won't change the fact that Windows doesn't crash >daily for most people and in fact is >hundreds of times better than described by/. >posters. And no matter how many times the microsoft stockholders and employees repeat "It's not that bad, it's not that bad..." According to my experience and the experience of every person I know in the IT industry, it is that bad.
I see your point, but I think there is another reason that we've seen so much FUD about forking the kernel....
The one strong (well in other peoples opinions) arguement against Open source is that there is "no centralized authority" to make the desicion. (Not my arguement, I've seen this numerous times.)
It's like someone born into communism saying "But how does the economy you know how many XXXX's to make?" They would very natually keep harping on this point becuase they can't comprehend supply and demand.
The Closed-Source proponents can't understand that if the fork splits, that it either 1) falls out of use, 2) is kept current with the main source by the forker, 3) becomes a second product (an example might be emacs and xemacs (I know I'm strectching)) or 4) gets rolled back into the main codebase.
What we really need to start working on is to inform people on how descisions are made in the open source community and point out forks that have occured in the past without harm occuring.
My current assignment is heavily Office oriented. (Sigh, it sorta sucks but it got me down to Raliegh-Durham.:) ) At anyrate what amazes me is that Office2000 on a K6-2 350Mhz runs at the same speed that Office6.0 ran on a 486DX-66! (not sure about the dx, it was quite a while ago!). And while on th 486 I had to reboot every other day, I now have to reboot daily or more often....
True this is a trademarked bad idea. However this is from a company that the default for their database(SQL). (And I think for IIS too...) For SQL it's called either "Use NT Security" or "Use Trusted Connection."
Not only that the default administrator account for SQL is blank. (If you choose not to use a "trusted" connection.) WITH NO WARNING TO CHANGE IT!!!!! That's right out of the box login = 'sa', password = '' and your in. (Although, I think at least some people have caught on about this.)
[At a former company I was critized for changing the sa password and using SQL's security instead of MS-ACCESS's..... My reasoning, the large number of Office password cracking progs out there.]
Actually, I've heard a couple of differnt dates, (20,29,34,40), and for almost all of them it means that one of my aunts, uncles or parents hasn't been born yet according to the algorithim... I wonder how that's handled.
I concur. He doesn't sound nearly as loony as say *lexander *b*in or T*d(die) H*ld*n (say their names to loud and they appear.)
But to be fair, we havent' been able to read very much of his work (5pgs or more). Mr. Velikovsky (sp? the catastrophist) could appear coherent and logical for several pages at a time, seemingly without effort....
I think the only fair way to get an assesment of him and his ideas is an interview with him and on other randomly picked analyst. So we can compare him to someone else of his ilk.
Personally, I don't know about this guy. I know I am a little annoyed with all these ac's posting and claiming saying over and over and over and over again that this guy is a crank with little or no proof.... It makes me think of alt.religion.scientology....
RTFFoF! It doesn't matter that the competitors harmed themselves, what matters is that a company with Monopoly power used undue influence to squash competition.
I'm getting so sick of this arguement, I've
been paying close attention to this industry since 1984. All that M$ has done since then is 1) use unfair licenscing(sp?) to keep competitors from getting a foothold (DR-DOS, Navigator, OS/2), spread massive amounts of FUD about competitors technology (Apple, Novel, Unix, Linux), use pre-announcements to quell the competitions momentum (Cairo anyone?) and purchase their competitors(RealNetworks (kinda), and a whole slew of others).
Think about it this way, closest thing to a competitor to come along in the last 5 years is FREE!!! This only way that non-MS programmers have been able to innovate is to DONATE OUR SERVICES.
Doesn't that indicate that there is something wrong in Redmond?????
Do your homework before you put your foot in your mouth, microserf.
We'd probably see a lot of different projects start up _real_ quick. Initially, the biggest benefit would be to the various whine-like projects...
:) )
Longer term, I don't know if the Windows source
was dragged through the coals like Linux has been, it could be a system worth using....
(Personally, I think I'd stick with Linux because
the Unix world makes a little too much sense to me....
Thanks, I think I get it.
I'll just repeat it back in my own words, and if I'm wrong please correct me.
I wrote a novel and encrypted it with say PGP so I can send it via email to publishers. If some one writes a program that cracks PGP, I can sue them for Copyright violation?
Sounds like a great way to prevent unemployed lawyers running around looking for a battle.
Hey man, can you spare a brief?
Thanks for all your paitence!
RobK
but at the same time security minded people wouldn't be using OE in the first place.
BZZZZZT. Wrong! Do not progress to the lightening round. Some of us security-minded people (i.e. me!) are forced to use OE/Outlook for work.
PS. Doesn't it annoy you that companies copyright abbrivations? For example theat should've been i.e.(tm), but tm is trademarked (by the transcendental mediatation folks) so it really should be i.e.(tm(tm))... but tm is trademarked by... you get my point.
Right but my point is that violation of copyright can easily be achieved via email, the web or a copier.
Are Microsoft/AOL/Qualcomm/Xerox liable for copyright?
I'm not attacking, I'm seriously asking a serious question.
So I can sue AOL and IE if someone emails this post to another person, violating my copyright?
Can William Gibson sue Xerox for making a copier that could be used to make 1000 copies of Neuromancer?
I'm a little confused as to where copyright violations end in your view.
Also, isn't copying DVD still currently impossible because DVD-RAMs don't have enough storage for a full length movie?
Are you an anti-trust lawyer? If so please cite why you feel this to be so.
If not please point me to your sources.
I'm asking because most of the anti-trust experts are saying there isn't much room to argue with.
I'm really curious as to why you disagree with them.
if cutting them off the 'net which causes them to fail out, all that does is benefit CMU.
If half of the 71 fail out CMU gain $25,000(est)*36(rounded up)=$900,000. _AND_ CMU looks good for doing it. A fairer verdict would be to expell them but return the pro-rated room/board and tuition. Also mark on their transcript "expelled for violation of federal copyright law."
Basically what I object to is CMU gaining finicially from their students breaking the law.
I don't have a problem (well I do but that's another post) with "the law" being enforce here, just the way CMU is taking advantage of the situation.
I'm sorry that you had such a rough time. However, your post has almost nothing to do with what I wrote.
I wrote the use and distrubution of pirated software was common while I attended.
While I agree that CMU has made some _incredibly_ draconian rulings, (and that CS students tend to get the brunt of said ruling) it is really not relevant to what I was saying.
However, users, understandably, don't want every move of theirs tracked - presumably with the worry that they will in the end, be held accountable for that time they typed in www.pr0n4u.com.
No No No No NO NoIt has absolutely NOTHING to do with people finding out we go to porn sites. This is like saying "Your against illegal search and seziure, you must have something to hide."
I don't go to p0rn sites. I'm recently married (in July) and haven't had the desire to view such material for the last 2 years. However, I don't want companies looking around at my web browsing patterns... why? It's none of their god damned bussiness how, when, why or where I browse the web.
I have no problem with them tracking people who don't mind giving out personal information to companies that may or may not be ethical, but give me to option to not give out this info. It's that simple.
has my alma mater changed! I was there from '90-94 (in the Physics Dept.), and pirated software was *freely* availible not only on the appletalk networks, but also on the unix boxes. (I never used the pc's so I don't know about them). It was not only well known but joked about amongst the CCONs and UCONs (sysadmin/tech support folks).
Now they are suspending rights to 'net some kids because of mp3s? At a school like that I think that is very unusually harsh. In the pre-Mosiac days, it was very common for profs. to _require_ you to run or read maiterial that was posted either on the intra- or inter-net. This seems highly cruel to me, since it makes it very likely the kids'll fail out.
Note: I did _not_ download or use any of this software. For most of my stay there, I had no computer of my own, but for my freshman year I had an Amiga (which was unsupported). My views of pirated software and software pirates are my own, and I do not choose to share them in a public forum.
has my alma mater changed! I was there from '90-94 (in the Physics Dept.), and pirated software was *freely* availible not only on the appletalk networks, but also on the unix boxes. (I never used the pc's so I don't know about them). It was not only well known but joked about amongst the CCONs and UCONs (sysadmin/tech support folks).
Now they are suspending rights to 'net some kids because of mp3s? At a school like that I think that is very unusually harsh. In the pre-Mosiac days, it was very common for profs. to _require_ you to run or read maiterial that was posted either on the intra- or inter-net. This seems highly cruel to me, since it makes it very likely the kids'll fail out.
Note: I did _not_ download or use any of this software. For most of my stay there, I had no computer of my own, but for my freshman year I had an Amiga (which was unsupported). My views of pirated software and software pirates are my own, and I do not choose to share them in a public forum.
Let me start this off buy saying that I've finally come _back_ to the linux community after an extended vaction. [I used linux extensively from 96-97 and then stopped until recently, long story....]
Ok, let's think about this, what tech story spread the word about open source more than any other? Hmm.... Well, there were huge gains in market share before the trail, but the only people to read those where techies (and we already knew!).
By some ironic twist of fate, IMOSHO, the anti-trust trial not only spread the word about Linux but took it and shoved it under the nose of Mr & Ms. Joe Average. Linux coverage has now become a staple of the internet and bussiness section. Partially because those who are better programmers than I put in a lotta hours, but partially because M$ tried to use it to "prove" there was competition.
Thanks Bill! Have a GNU!
I sympathize. I'm oddly exicted and nervous et al. The one thing that I keep coming back to though is that this industry can't get any more screwed up than it is....
:) ) It's highly unlikely that they are going to bring in a Linux Guru to rewrite your product when it's going to be cheaper to just train you in linux since you know the requirements already.
It's an industry where (for the most part) the unknowledgeable make the desicions (accounts, PHB, etc.), absolutely everyone is an "expert". (Oh yeah, I can program see I have a computer and a copy of VB for dummies), and for the last ten years the better technology has been beaten in the marketplace. Let's face it, this is one fsck'd up industry.
Could it get worse? Probably, whether MS wins or loses we are probably going to see more changes in the next 10 years than we have seen since the advent of the Altair. We are about to enter an age where computers are so cheap, and so small that there are going to permeate(sp?) our lives. It's going to be an exciting, thrilling and confusing time. And hopefully, when we are done, we can look at one and other and go "Whooooo! Good Job!"
Are people (MSCE's and the like) going to lose jobs? Some, maybe if they are really bad... but I doubt it, your employeer already has a lot of time and money invested in you. (that's a general you not the specific
Also, the one thing I keep seeing (or maybe it's my imagination) is the idea that the finding of fact (or penalties or whatever) is going to come out and MS is going to curl up and die... Even after all the appeals and so on, some form of the Windows franchise will still be here. The best we can hope is to profit from the confusion and doubt about the future. I don't mean FUD, good lord I hate FUD....
What I mean is when people say things like "Sure I don't like windows, but what else is there." (a phrase I here almost daily from non-techs) TELL THEM. Don't preach, don't sermonize... just say, "Well there's Linux, BEOS, Mac, FreeBSD, ad nauseum." (If I forgot anyone I'm sorry!). If they are truely interested, try to show them a demo of a couple different OS's (and with linux a couple different wm & (KDE | GNOME) packages). See what happens... you might be suprised and how few people actually know there are alternatives!
Well I've rambled on and on and on and on... I think I'm going to go do some work....
Maybe phone rates went up for you. But in severely rural areas it's been quite different.
My mother paid $90+ for the priveledge of haveing
a phone. No long distance, no local tolls. That was her base rate + phone rental (the area she livs in didn't allow personal ownership of the phones). Almost any call was LD since anything more than five miles was considered LD. (There was nothing to call within 5 miles except Cows in the field).
Since the breakup that has drop to around $30. (Base rate, no phone rental since they change the rules).
I totally agree that AT&T did some amazing things, but so did IBM and I can only see good things coming from the fall from grace of big blue.
[Poss. Bias Note: My father was employeed by IBM until the early 70's]
Have you ever bothered to try anything that
/. it /.
didn't have microsoft's logo on it?
>Windows users don't have to reboot every day, and
>suffer a crash less than once
>a month. NT smokes that
And do you know how much an employeer loses from that once a month crash. I don't even really think once a month is acceptable....
And yeah, I _was_ an NT admin, if nt smokes that then I'll let you paint my ass purple.
> if you're having to reboot daily or more often >you've either got screwed up hardware or you've >managed to screw
>up your system somehow.
_EVERY_ Computer I've ever used? Even though they came out of the box from Dell, Compaq or Gateway? Even though linux was later installed on two of them and thye have _NEVER_ crashed since? Come'on are you Mr. Gates' lovemonkey or something???? According to the 99.99% uptime that some NT resellers are promising, it works out to a reboot a week. No one in the industry is willing to put their bussiness on the line for what you are claiming.
>No matter how many times its repeated on
>won't change the fact that Windows doesn't crash
>daily for most people and in fact is
>hundreds of times better than described by
>posters.
And no matter how many times the microsoft stockholders and employees repeat "It's not that bad, it's not that bad..." According to my experience and the experience of every person I know in the IT industry, it is that bad.
Doh! I meant that to be in the thread on expense of forking....
Nergh! What a day.
I see your point, but I think there is another reason that we've seen so much FUD about forking the kernel....
The one strong (well in other peoples opinions) arguement against Open source is that there is "no centralized authority" to make the desicion. (Not my arguement, I've seen this numerous times.)
It's like someone born into communism saying "But how does the economy you know how many XXXX's to make?" They would very natually keep harping on this point becuase they can't comprehend supply and demand.
The Closed-Source proponents can't understand that if the fork splits, that it either 1) falls out of use, 2) is kept current with the main source by the forker, 3) becomes a second product (an example might be emacs and xemacs (I know I'm strectching)) or 4) gets rolled back into the main codebase.
What we really need to start working on is to inform people on how descisions are made in the open source community and point out forks that have occured in the past without harm occuring.
At least that's what I think,
RobK
My current assignment is heavily Office oriented. (Sigh, it sorta sucks but it got me down to Raliegh-Durham. :) )
At anyrate what amazes me is that Office2000 on a K6-2 350Mhz runs at the same speed that Office6.0 ran on a 486DX-66! (not sure about the dx, it was quite a while ago!). And while on th 486 I had to reboot every other day, I now have to reboot daily or more often....
Progress is great isn't it?
RobK
I think it's fair to say that
there is quite a bit of bad blood.
_IF_ the intel exec who testified at the
anti-trust trail is telling the
truth(tm) there's very good reason!
Also, hasn't Intel been playing flirting (or if I remember correctly deep-throating) Be?
True this is a trademarked bad idea. However this is from a company that the default for their database(SQL). (And I think for IIS too...)
For SQL it's called either "Use NT Security" or "Use Trusted Connection."
Not only that the default administrator account for SQL is blank. (If you choose not to use a "trusted" connection.) WITH NO WARNING TO CHANGE IT!!!!! That's right out of the box login = 'sa', password = '' and your in. (Although, I think at least some people have caught on about this.)
[At a former company I was critized for changing the sa password and using SQL's security instead of MS-ACCESS's..... My reasoning, the large number of Office password cracking progs out there.]
Actually, if you RTFA you'll see that yes, virginia it is a CAL (client Access Lic.) per AUTHENTICATED web connection.
Read the article again.
The guy even says "If I start selling mike nash t-shirts over the web...." (paraphrase).
RobK
Just move the window, I guess....
Actually, I've heard a couple of differnt dates,
(20,29,34,40), and for almost all of them it means that one of my aunts, uncles or parents hasn't been born yet according to the algorithim... I wonder how that's handled.
RobK
I concur. He doesn't sound nearly as loony as say *lexander *b*in or T*d(die) H*ld*n (say their names to loud and they appear.)
But to be fair, we havent' been able to
read very much of his work (5pgs or more).
Mr. Velikovsky (sp? the catastrophist) could
appear coherent and logical for several pages at a time, seemingly without effort....
I think the only fair way to get an assesment of him and his ideas is an interview with him and
on other randomly picked analyst. So we can compare him to someone else of his ilk.
Personally, I don't know about this guy. I know I am a little annoyed with all these ac's posting and claiming saying over and over and over and over again that this guy is a crank with little
or no proof.... It makes me think of alt.religion.scientology....
Gee, and that just makes me look oh so intelligent! I the pipes are missing,
and the indenting didn't come through....
sorry!