I read a letter by an an anti-linuxer who said "the day Microsoft is actually scared of your stupid operating system is the day that you will see Microsoft Linux 1.0 on store shelves." Well, I think this is fairly close.
From the screenshots, this thing looks like a suitable OS for the desktop. And it also looks like that's where they're aiming, considering that they have a package installer installing the GNU C++ libs, and all the other little things that people use on the desktop. I'm sick of everything available for x86, so I'm looking forward to QNX becoming ready for the desktop.
While you're at it, would you mind telling me how to build a rocket ship? And are there any good books on developing theories about black holes to rival Stephen Hawking's?
There are two kinds of excellent GUIs... pretty GUIs (aqua) and ol'-time UNIX, effective GUIs (WindowMaker). Take your pick, they're both good.
The think about pretty GUIs is they are often obtrusive. If you screw up (Luna) that's REALLY annoying and bad. Also, where you get into trouble is hitting somewhere in the middle, e.g. KDE and GNOME are goin' for the pretty GUI, and fall just short. So when KDE and GNOME get there, then we'll have two nice GUIs! For now, I use a combo of WindowMaker and KDE. It's all good!
I have to say, I expected the computing industry to be revolutionized today... instead we gained a freaky-looking computer. Joy! Sarcasm aside, this is definitely a step forward for the physical design of a desktop computer.... _this_ is how it is supposed to be done.
Oh, yeah, and the operating system is awesome. When can we have Quartz on Linux:(
-j
Gnome, KDE, Ximian Gnome are all basically programs that run on top of X. X is inefficient in some areas, but very useful in others. I personally don't like it, but some do. It doesn't support cool stuff like alpha transparency (but KDE is getting around that) and does support useful stuff like network transparency.
I think you missed this... what he means is, when a company fails and its product's source code is released, it could end up being so good that it could create a disaster for everyone else, meaning this new open source product beats everything else.
Aaaah, so you're one of those old UNIX guys who refuses to leave his beloved Motif... when I put Linux on my brother's computer he refused to use Netscape because it is so ugly.
Seems a lot nicer, but it's still behind KDE. I like GTK alot more than Qt though.
I wish GTK/Gnome would get transparency (I think KDE is, right?) Finally we got anti-aliased text, (did that take long enough??) Will Abiword have anti-aliased text now?
Wow, I liked that.
The only thing I like about BeOS GUI is that it's not in your face... but the face that every CLI app has help automatically and every GUI app doesn't... that's interesting.
Linux is where it needs to be. Hardware support and a robust kernel.
KDE is where it needs to be. Spiffy, nice toolkit (thought Trolltech always makes me unsure...), usable, getting better all the time. It even anti-aliases all the fonts on my brother's computer! (Doesn't work on mine).
GNOME is where it needs to be. I would add anti-aliased fonts (like in KDE) and beautify the toolkit (a la Aqua), but nonetheless a great environment.
Mandrake is where it needs to be. Easy to install, does everything for you, takes you by the hand when you want to do anything.
The huge problem is the enormous difference between XFree86 and Quartz!!! XFree is a sluggish system, that doesn't support all the cool stuff that Quartz does, like its vector graphics, PDF thingie and alpha transparency.
You guys want Linux on the desktop? Then EVERY DEVELOPER, go and work on Xfree for the next 3 months. GUT IT. Make it as good as quarts, and you've got a Windows killer. I'd do it, but I know next to nothing about graphics:(
Just my 2 cents.
To the user, FreeBSD looks like Linux with much less hardware compatibility. Oh, yeah, and stuff doesn't work when you install it.
But I still like FreeBSD, and ABSOLUTELY agree about the incompatible versions of Linux.
I just don't think FreeBSD is ready for the desktop.
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i think this is a great idea.
and btw, did anybody pick up on the name on the sample card in that article? Winston Smith is the name of the oppressed main character in 1984.
I read a letter by an an anti-linuxer who said
"the day Microsoft is actually scared of your
stupid operating system is the day that you will
see Microsoft Linux 1.0 on store shelves." Well,
I think this is fairly close.
I do it, and I love it. Rent 'em, watch 'em,
divx-itize them.
Plus, Netflix was the only place (I checked
every Blockbuster in my area!) that had the
Phish movie.
Long live Netflix! And Phish!
Am I off-base here?
Thanks a lot.
The think about pretty GUIs is they are often obtrusive. If you screw up (Luna) that's REALLY annoying and bad. Also, where you get into trouble is hitting somewhere in the middle, e.g. KDE and GNOME are goin' for the pretty GUI, and fall just short. So when KDE and GNOME get there, then we'll have two nice GUIs! For now, I use a combo of WindowMaker and KDE. It's all good!
I have to say, I expected the computing industry to be revolutionized today... instead we gained a freaky-looking computer. Joy! Sarcasm aside, this is definitely a step forward for the physical design of a desktop computer.... _this_ is how it is supposed to be done. Oh, yeah, and the operating system is awesome. When can we have Quartz on Linux :(
-j
Actually, it's eXtreme Programming. Seriously. And why did someone classify the version number guy as a troll, that should have been a funny.
Gnome, KDE, Ximian Gnome are all basically programs that run on top of X. X is inefficient in some areas, but very useful in others. I personally don't like it, but some do. It doesn't support cool stuff like alpha transparency (but KDE is getting around that) and does support useful stuff like network transparency.
I think you missed this... what he means is, when a company fails and its product's source code is released, it could end up being so good that it could create a disaster for everyone else, meaning this new open source product beats everything else.
Um... I think most Slashdot users do develop. I know I definitely do.
Aaaah, so you're one of those old UNIX guys who refuses to leave his beloved Motif... when I put Linux on my brother's computer he refused to use Netscape because it is so ugly.
Seems a lot nicer, but it's still behind KDE. I like GTK alot more than Qt though. I wish GTK/Gnome would get transparency (I think KDE is, right?) Finally we got anti-aliased text, (did that take long enough??) Will Abiword have anti-aliased text now?
Wow, I liked that. The only thing I like about BeOS GUI is that it's not in your face... but the face that every CLI app has help automatically and every GUI app doesn't... that's interesting.
If you're an operating system development guy who is working on a Windows killer, don't move to OS X... there's nothing left to be done.
Linux is where it needs to be. Hardware support and a robust kernel. KDE is where it needs to be. Spiffy, nice toolkit (thought Trolltech always makes me unsure...), usable, getting better all the time. It even anti-aliases all the fonts on my brother's computer! (Doesn't work on mine). GNOME is where it needs to be. I would add anti-aliased fonts (like in KDE) and beautify the toolkit (a la Aqua), but nonetheless a great environment. Mandrake is where it needs to be. Easy to install, does everything for you, takes you by the hand when you want to do anything. The huge problem is the enormous difference between XFree86 and Quartz!!! XFree is a sluggish system, that doesn't support all the cool stuff that Quartz does, like its vector graphics, PDF thingie and alpha transparency. You guys want Linux on the desktop? Then EVERY DEVELOPER, go and work on Xfree for the next 3 months. GUT IT. Make it as good as quarts, and you've got a Windows killer. I'd do it, but I know next to nothing about graphics :(
Just my 2 cents.
To the user, FreeBSD looks like Linux with much less hardware compatibility. Oh, yeah, and stuff doesn't work when you install it. But I still like FreeBSD, and ABSOLUTELY agree about the incompatible versions of Linux. I just don't think FreeBSD is ready for the desktop.