Given that Tesla knows the cars can be sold into highly corrosive environments, I would hope that they used solder finishes capable of resisting dendrite formation.
I've seen boards from high sulfur environments with extensive silver sulfide growth. The entire area around the BGA was a solid sheet of metal. We found a solder preservative that protects the immersion silver finish from sulfur corrosion and it seems to have stopped the effect entirely, at least in the accelerated equivalent of several years' exposure.
Sure, but when talking about China, using terms like "largest number" and "highest amount" are misleading, because they also have the most people. Per capita, they still burn a hell of a lot of coal, and that's growing, not getting smaller.
Wow, mod police came back days later to pound every anti-beta post into the ground. I think this was +4 before it was hit, given that the rest of the response was Informative.
So you live on a cliff overlooking the ocean, one of those rare land things that you point out in your GP post that still has value. You invite a series of young artists to take residence, and in exchange for an opportunity to get inspiration from your beautiful estate, they'll create original works of art for you, ones that they agree to never reproduce again.
Do this enough, and one of them could become the next Picasso in 25 years. You don't think rich people only buy art that's by establish masters, do you? Plenty of rich people buy and commission art from up-and-coming artists just because they like them, or because they think that artist will become an established master and want to pick up some of their early works.
I might agree with you for the services where I type in the song I want to play and it plays. But for the service I use, I type in a few songs I like and the service finds hundreds of other songs I might like, plays them, and learns my habits to find more of them. And then I go buy downloads of those songs so I can listen to them all the time, and I go see those artists at clubs when they come to town.
That service deserves more of the money, because they aren't just serving a file, they're deciding which file to serve, which is a marketing service they deserve to get paid for. (In truth, the streaming service should get all of the marketing money that's instead going to some deadbeat label somewhere that conned the artists into signing a contract when they were too young and stupid to know better.)
-- Pandora user who has been refining my work music station, and buying tracks off it, since 2006.
But that's not what's being done in China. As they are becoming "civilized" (a horrible term for this, but the one you and the GP used), they are doing so on the backs of coal.
If both of them look exactly the same, down to the smallest detail, then how exactly do you convince someone to pay millions for one when they can get the other for $10? In a 3D-printed future (or better yet, a future with replicators), you won't be able to tell the difference. If some moron is willing to pay millions for an exclusive item, how does he verify it's exclusive, and not a "forgery"? He can't.
He can if he watched it be painted, especially if he then keeps it private and doesn't allow machinery to scan it for mass reproduction. And patronage is reborn.
You did not address what I said. Why is a 3rd party vote automatically equivalent as vote republican? Why is it not equivalent as voting democrat? And how did you decide this?
Likely he lives in an area that traditionally votes Republican, so any votes for a third party make it harder for anyone to vote the incumbent (Republican) out of office, as is a popular strategy among libertarians who support term limits and "citizen governance" or just want to vote 'em all out and start over.
If you live in an area that traditionally votes Democrat, then your vote for a third party makes it harder to vote the Democrat out and the Republican in, making it the equivalent of voting Democrat.
If you live in area where the elected officials regularly change party, reflecting the will of the people, and maybe a third-party candidate is elected every now and then, then by all means vote for them, as it seems to be working for you! But for the rest of us, just establishing a two-party system would be an improvement over the situation we have today.
At what point does a remote-control helicopter become a 'drone'? Also, Beta doesn't provide sufficient functional improvement to necessitate its continuation, or indeed, its conception
As soon as it is controlled via pre-program setpoints instead of remotely, and/or it leaves line-of-sight of the controller. Sort of how Slashdot becomes suck as soon as beta. (Might as well join in.)
He proposed that Palpatine be given emergency powers, which allowed for the final remnants of the old republic to be swept away, and brought forth the eventual start of the new republic once the Skywalkers killed him.
Actually Jar Jar might be a lot like Beta, if Beta kills Slashdot and a new, better website emerges from its ashes.
At least any new stormwater runoff is being treated, unlike in my neighborhood. Surface runoff after storms was what the EPA hit us for, since what they found were IIRC particulates from vehicle deposits, or something like that.
Of course by "Congress" I meant "the Tea Party extremists, or whichever Republican happens to be talking at the moment." They won't follow up on any of it, including Clapper.
Before you spend all that time promoting private gas companies as responsible businesses, quickly responding to leaks, perhaps you should read the most recent research on the topic.
Those companies you are talking about allowed 69 billion cubic feet of gas to escape into the atmosphere in 2011. They don't care to stop it because they can pass those costs on to their consumers, and that's easier than repairing the old cast iron pipes carrying the gas. That's the exact same thing you are complaining about with regard to your local water company, you just didn't bother to know or Google for a few seconds and learn that the gas companies do the exact same thing.
Your link refutes your claim. The issues described on Wikipedia are for Combined Sewage Overflow (CSO), in which the combination of stormwater runoff and human sewage are discharged directly in the lakes and streams. That's what the EPA is restricting per the link, not the processing of stormwater via the sewer system in the same, safe way and human sewage, as I described going on in my city.
The Wikipedia article describes, as one remedy for CSO, the creation of a second sewer system for stormwater runoff. Ostensibly that's what my city is doing - sending the stormwater into the sewer system to be processed (just not the same sewer system as human waste).
Alternatively, some cities are expanding their (single) sewer system to accommodate both. Other cities are creating surface-level systems (stormwater detention/retention ponds, vegetated filter strips) to slow and filter stormwater using things other than the sewer system. But the important part isn't that stormwater and human sewage are treated separately; the important part is that A) stormwater is treated, at all, so that street runoff doesn't end up unfiltered in the creeks and lakes, and B) that human sewage is never allowed to overflow into the creeks and lakes under any circumstances.
I'm my 1940s neighborhood, there are warning signs on all the storm drains that they go directly into the creek, and that no dumping is allowed.
In the overall city, though, any stormwater system installed after 2000 (at least, maybe earlier) has to send its water through the sewer system to be processed. I thought that was required nationwide, but maybe it's because of specific EPA requirements on our creeks (some of which have tested poorly for various contaminants).
To be fair, I think the guy should be removed from office. The problem as I see it is that Congress demands that every appointee be removed if they make any mistake, no matter how minor or (as in this case) serious. Meanwhile, some appointees can never get approved under any circumstances.
Given that environment, I can see why Obama won't fire the guy. There's a chance Obama would not get a replacement confirmed by the end of his term.
The whole process, and most everyone involved in it, sucks all around.
As mentioned in the article, most buyers in China will get this more for show than for the environment. At least in the U.S. when trolls call electric cars pointless, I can point to the 100% wind power on my electric bill and be smug about it, or at least point out that big industrial power plants in the countryside can scrub and dilute their exhaust more efficiently than thousands of cars crammed in a little city, but in China I think the power plants right now are probably just as bad.
I do find it strange that the article mentions China incentivizing electric vehicles to reduce smog, while also pointing out the huge import duties Tesla has to pay. Given how cheap almost everything made in China is here, I didn't realize that they could tax our exports of anything that highly.
I have gigabit to my desk at work, though the pipe outside the company is maybe a gigabit per 100 of us. Besides the Linux-ISO-in-seconds thing, the best benefit is the complete lack of latency on random data hogs like Google maps panning, or how quickly I get the HD feed on streaming Netflix (at the company gym onto my iPad). Or really the ability to do all of the above simultaneously with the guy next to you, and not really notice anything. That just doesn't happen at home right now on a 40 MBPS AT&T fiber-to-that-box-a-block-away plan.
We're in line for Google fiber at home in the next year and I'll sign up right away, and dump AT&T at last and for good.
I was an Apple shareholder at that time. If Apple inflated profits through illegal activity - activity they knew or should have known was illegal and would result in future fines and restatement of earnings - then they didn't just defraud the workers, they defrauded their shareholders, too. We could see shareholder lawsuits follow if this class action suit goes through, and shareholder lawsuits - especially those brought by large institutional investors who have their own legal teams and would get the bulk of any compensation - likely scare the companies far more than this worker revolt.
Expect to see all the companies settle while admitting no wrongdoing.
Does the carbon dioxide your plant released 25 years ago cause my land to flood? Yes, your specific molecules. Oh wait, you died rich and happy and your kids have inherited the money. And you had incorporated to protect your assets so I couldn't get at them through the court system anyway. Oh well libertarian fail, again.
It's impossible to ever prove cause and effect in such a scenario. Just which person, exactly, drove the car or ran the factory that emitted the precise particles of pollution that I had to breath while crossing the street in Shanghai?
Only regulation can prevent such toxic emissions, as the courts are virtually impotent to address it after the fact. See my other response above for plenty of other examples where the court system can not and has never been able to achieve justice for such things.
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Given that Tesla knows the cars can be sold into highly corrosive environments, I would hope that they used solder finishes capable of resisting dendrite formation.
I've seen boards from high sulfur environments with extensive silver sulfide growth. The entire area around the BGA was a solid sheet of metal. We found a solder preservative that protects the immersion silver finish from sulfur corrosion and it seems to have stopped the effect entirely, at least in the accelerated equivalent of several years' exposure.
Sure, but when talking about China, using terms like "largest number" and "highest amount" are misleading, because they also have the most people. Per capita, they still burn a hell of a lot of coal, and that's growing, not getting smaller.
Wow, mod police came back days later to pound every anti-beta post into the ground. I think this was +4 before it was hit, given that the rest of the response was Informative.
So you live on a cliff overlooking the ocean, one of those rare land things that you point out in your GP post that still has value. You invite a series of young artists to take residence, and in exchange for an opportunity to get inspiration from your beautiful estate, they'll create original works of art for you, ones that they agree to never reproduce again.
Do this enough, and one of them could become the next Picasso in 25 years. You don't think rich people only buy art that's by establish masters, do you? Plenty of rich people buy and commission art from up-and-coming artists just because they like them, or because they think that artist will become an established master and want to pick up some of their early works.
I might agree with you for the services where I type in the song I want to play and it plays. But for the service I use, I type in a few songs I like and the service finds hundreds of other songs I might like, plays them, and learns my habits to find more of them. And then I go buy downloads of those songs so I can listen to them all the time, and I go see those artists at clubs when they come to town.
That service deserves more of the money, because they aren't just serving a file, they're deciding which file to serve, which is a marketing service they deserve to get paid for. (In truth, the streaming service should get all of the marketing money that's instead going to some deadbeat label somewhere that conned the artists into signing a contract when they were too young and stupid to know better.)
-- Pandora user who has been refining my work music station, and buying tracks off it, since 2006.
But that's not what's being done in China. As they are becoming "civilized" (a horrible term for this, but the one you and the GP used), they are doing so on the backs of coal.
If both of them look exactly the same, down to the smallest detail, then how exactly do you convince someone to pay millions for one when they can get the other for $10? In a 3D-printed future (or better yet, a future with replicators), you won't be able to tell the difference. If some moron is willing to pay millions for an exclusive item, how does he verify it's exclusive, and not a "forgery"? He can't.
He can if he watched it be painted, especially if he then keeps it private and doesn't allow machinery to scan it for mass reproduction. And patronage is reborn.
You did not address what I said. Why is a 3rd party vote automatically equivalent as vote republican? Why is it not equivalent as voting democrat? And how did you decide this?
Likely he lives in an area that traditionally votes Republican, so any votes for a third party make it harder for anyone to vote the incumbent (Republican) out of office, as is a popular strategy among libertarians who support term limits and "citizen governance" or just want to vote 'em all out and start over.
If you live in an area that traditionally votes Democrat, then your vote for a third party makes it harder to vote the Democrat out and the Republican in, making it the equivalent of voting Democrat.
If you live in area where the elected officials regularly change party, reflecting the will of the people, and maybe a third-party candidate is elected every now and then, then by all means vote for them, as it seems to be working for you! But for the rest of us, just establishing a two-party system would be an improvement over the situation we have today.
At what point does a remote-control helicopter become a 'drone'? Also, Beta doesn't provide sufficient functional improvement to necessitate its continuation, or indeed, its conception
As soon as it is controlled via pre-program setpoints instead of remotely, and/or it leaves line-of-sight of the controller. Sort of how Slashdot becomes suck as soon as beta. (Might as well join in.)
He proposed that Palpatine be given emergency powers, which allowed for the final remnants of the old republic to be swept away, and brought forth the eventual start of the new republic once the Skywalkers killed him.
Actually Jar Jar might be a lot like Beta, if Beta kills Slashdot and a new, better website emerges from its ashes.
At least any new stormwater runoff is being treated, unlike in my neighborhood. Surface runoff after storms was what the EPA hit us for, since what they found were IIRC particulates from vehicle deposits, or something like that.
Of course by "Congress" I meant "the Tea Party extremists, or whichever Republican happens to be talking at the moment." They won't follow up on any of it, including Clapper.
There's no such thing as "non-partisan" appointee.
How often does your work keep you away from home for days on end?
Before you spend all that time promoting private gas companies as responsible businesses, quickly responding to leaks, perhaps you should read the most recent research on the topic.
http://www.markey.senate.gov/d...
Those companies you are talking about allowed 69 billion cubic feet of gas to escape into the atmosphere in 2011. They don't care to stop it because they can pass those costs on to their consumers, and that's easier than repairing the old cast iron pipes carrying the gas. That's the exact same thing you are complaining about with regard to your local water company, you just didn't bother to know or Google for a few seconds and learn that the gas companies do the exact same thing.
Your link refutes your claim. The issues described on Wikipedia are for Combined Sewage Overflow (CSO), in which the combination of stormwater runoff and human sewage are discharged directly in the lakes and streams. That's what the EPA is restricting per the link, not the processing of stormwater via the sewer system in the same, safe way and human sewage, as I described going on in my city.
The Wikipedia article describes, as one remedy for CSO, the creation of a second sewer system for stormwater runoff. Ostensibly that's what my city is doing - sending the stormwater into the sewer system to be processed (just not the same sewer system as human waste).
Alternatively, some cities are expanding their (single) sewer system to accommodate both. Other cities are creating surface-level systems (stormwater detention/retention ponds, vegetated filter strips) to slow and filter stormwater using things other than the sewer system. But the important part isn't that stormwater and human sewage are treated separately; the important part is that A) stormwater is treated, at all, so that street runoff doesn't end up unfiltered in the creeks and lakes, and B) that human sewage is never allowed to overflow into the creeks and lakes under any circumstances.
I'm my 1940s neighborhood, there are warning signs on all the storm drains that they go directly into the creek, and that no dumping is allowed.
In the overall city, though, any stormwater system installed after 2000 (at least, maybe earlier) has to send its water through the sewer system to be processed. I thought that was required nationwide, but maybe it's because of specific EPA requirements on our creeks (some of which have tested poorly for various contaminants).
To be fair, I think the guy should be removed from office. The problem as I see it is that Congress demands that every appointee be removed if they make any mistake, no matter how minor or (as in this case) serious. Meanwhile, some appointees can never get approved under any circumstances.
Given that environment, I can see why Obama won't fire the guy. There's a chance Obama would not get a replacement confirmed by the end of his term.
The whole process, and most everyone involved in it, sucks all around.
How did what you post refute what I posted?
As mentioned in the article, most buyers in China will get this more for show than for the environment. At least in the U.S. when trolls call electric cars pointless, I can point to the 100% wind power on my electric bill and be smug about it, or at least point out that big industrial power plants in the countryside can scrub and dilute their exhaust more efficiently than thousands of cars crammed in a little city, but in China I think the power plants right now are probably just as bad.
I do find it strange that the article mentions China incentivizing electric vehicles to reduce smog, while also pointing out the huge import duties Tesla has to pay. Given how cheap almost everything made in China is here, I didn't realize that they could tax our exports of anything that highly.
I have gigabit to my desk at work, though the pipe outside the company is maybe a gigabit per 100 of us. Besides the Linux-ISO-in-seconds thing, the best benefit is the complete lack of latency on random data hogs like Google maps panning, or how quickly I get the HD feed on streaming Netflix (at the company gym onto my iPad). Or really the ability to do all of the above simultaneously with the guy next to you, and not really notice anything. That just doesn't happen at home right now on a 40 MBPS AT&T fiber-to-that-box-a-block-away plan.
We're in line for Google fiber at home in the next year and I'll sign up right away, and dump AT&T at last and for good.
I was an Apple shareholder at that time. If Apple inflated profits through illegal activity - activity they knew or should have known was illegal and would result in future fines and restatement of earnings - then they didn't just defraud the workers, they defrauded their shareholders, too. We could see shareholder lawsuits follow if this class action suit goes through, and shareholder lawsuits - especially those brought by large institutional investors who have their own legal teams and would get the bulk of any compensation - likely scare the companies far more than this worker revolt.
Expect to see all the companies settle while admitting no wrongdoing.
I read it as BSA Boyscout group..., then got confused and had to RTFS (I know, I know, I'm sorry) to figure it out.
Does the carbon dioxide your plant released 25 years ago cause my land to flood? Yes, your specific molecules. Oh wait, you died rich and happy and your kids have inherited the money. And you had incorporated to protect your assets so I couldn't get at them through the court system anyway. Oh well libertarian fail, again.
It's impossible to ever prove cause and effect in such a scenario. Just which person, exactly, drove the car or ran the factory that emitted the precise particles of pollution that I had to breath while crossing the street in Shanghai?
Only regulation can prevent such toxic emissions, as the courts are virtually impotent to address it after the fact. See my other response above for plenty of other examples where the court system can not and has never been able to achieve justice for such things.