The once a year part is annoying as well, since anything good you've done that wasn't last week has been pushed off the stack.
Worse than that, anything good you've done that wasn't during a one week span of time five months ago has been pushed off the stack. There is usually a delay in large companies between creating an assessment and sharing it with an employee that lasts a few months.
Oh, and during that few-month dead zone nothing counts. If you do something big during this time it will just be considered part of the baseline for the next review.
My only concern with CIWS is how far out it can track a ground-hugging hypersonic missile. You don't have a lot of time to engage it when you can't see it over the horizon. Even at 60 ft elevation on a ship, the horizon is only 8-9 miles away.
That gives you, what, maybe 5-6 seconds from detection at the horizon to impact. You'd have to have your Vulcan firing 2 seconds after detection to hit it.
If you only have two seconds to fire in order to score a hit, the missile only has two seconds to maneuver towards you in order to score a hit. I can't see how a sea-skimming hypersonic missile could hit a ship unless its position at time of impact were known with high accuracy.
The ability of a hypersonic weapon to jink is going to be very limited. Honestly, it will be so limited that I have no idea how it would even hit a ship in the first place unless it were stationary, or the missile had a very high trajectory and powerful sensors so that it could acquire the ship 75 miles away. Of course, in the latter case the ship could also acquire the missile even further away and it would be in line-of-sight the whole time for a laser.
A hypersonic missile fired at a ship designed to appear above the waves a second before impact will probably appear above the waves just to find no ships a second ahead of it.
You wouldn't need 20x the energy delivery. You might need 20x more power in the first femtosecond or whatever until the coating is burned through, and then you'd need only the amount of energy normally needed to ablate through the rest of the armor after that.
As soon as the surface of the mirror starts to burn it isn't a mirror any longer.
Agree that a hypersonic missile would work against a fixed target.
Nukes are great at killing things, and then getting yourself killed. Their main purpose is to exterminate the entire human race and they don't work very well if used with any other goal in mind.
Agree on the anti-ship bit. In order to fire a conventional missile at a ship you only need to know its location within a few miles, and if you know its direction of travel you can have even less certainty. The missile is programmed to fly to a particular point and turn on its radar, then to travel along a course looking for something to destroy. If the missile spots a ship within a few miles to either side of its flight path then it turns towards it and attacks it. A conventional missile has no trouble turning because it is traveling at a somewhat slow speed (granted, faster than most aircraft).
A hypersonic missile couldn't change course very quickly due to its high speed and likely small control surfaces (if they were big they'd rip right off when used). It might be hard to shoot down the missile if you spot it only seconds away, but that problem works just as well in reverse - if the missile spots you only a second or two away it will have a hard time steering towards you. Now, you could put a huge radar on the front and fly at high altitude to spot a ship 50 miles away and have more time to turn towards it, but that also means that the ship has more time to fire back.
Against a fixed land target a hypersonic missile would be very effective - it would have no radio emissions, though it would no doubt be quite bright in IR. You'd need to spot them a long way off using power radar, which of course is vulnerable to attack.
What do you do about Bill Gates, who could claim tens of millions of dollars from a being pulled away from work for a day or two. Small towns would be afraid of ticketing any Mercedes or Porsches.
You pay him tens of millions of dollars. If you issue valid tickets you're fine, and if you don't you're not.
If I crash into a parked Porche I have to pay a lot more than if I crash into a parked Kia.
Apply your silly argument to electrical wiring and you'll see exactly how silly it is.
If it weren't for the requirement for licensed electricians and the long precedent of company-sinking lawsuits when these laws are broken, you'd probably get electrocuted every time you touched a store shelf.
At my workplace the telecom gear is all centrally managed, but with about as generic a configuration as you could imagine. Network credentials really only have a few levels of access - if they can connect to the VPN they can connect to ANYTHING. If you have physical access to a network port, then you can also connect to anything. In both cases the ID might not let you log into any particular resource, but the network will route arbitrary packets just about anywhere.
Apparently the door card readers are an exception because the last time I needed to have one of those installed it cost a fortune to run security conduit (filled with pressurized gas with a sensor so that it would be very difficult to tamper with the cable run without being detected). Of course the door this protected was made out of wood and located in a building that was essentially unoccupied over the weekend (though you would need off-hours access (which is readily available but logged) unless you planned to enter during business hours and hide in a bathroom).
All the arguments above are true - we could have ACLs on everything, VLANs, RBAC on servers, and all the other goodies. The problem is that maintaining all that stuff costs somebody time and as a result we end up with ACLs that get half populated before somebody just sets some really broad grant of permission.
(Kind of like when clueless IT fuckups try to use their standard lies on better-informed software developers.)
Yeah, but at least in the workplace the people the lies are targeted at have to pretend they can't see through them. In the end if the company wants to pay you to help it fail, well, it is a paycheck you can collect while you look for something better.
In the case of people you aren't paying if you pull a Digg, OpenOffice, or XFree86 the results have already been demonstrated...
I don't even have threaded comments. Just flat. As close to static layout as possible.
Pity - you missed one of the most annoying features of the new beta then. If you have a threaded view then you can collapse posts to headlines and also get the "3 hidden comments" link for completely suppressed posts, which really helps to give a thread context. Posts also have a parent link. All of this means that when I find a particularly interesting thread I can quickly expand all the posts and get more info (sure, that includes some junk, but it also includes really great comments that just haven't gotten modded up yet).
All of that stuff is missing in the beta. I can filter the whole list down to +5 or whatever, but then I just see a few posts and no context at all. I can't pick one of those posts and start expanding filtered posts around it - at best I can copy some text out of it, unfilter the whole thing, and then search to figure out where in the mess it went.
Agree. We finally are getting to the point where everybody is taking mobile seriously and putting up mobile versions of everything. This is just in time so that I can figure out how to override this on each site so that my tablet doesn't have buttons that are 8 inches wide. Back when I was trying to browse on a feature phone I had to try to navigate mazes full of frames...
I agree with that, but going WAY back in the thread it was suggested that serfs weren't very happy, and they weren't very productive (both compared to modern workers). Both are true, but to establish a causal relationship you need to control for the impact of technology. Would a modern serf be less productive than a modern employee? Actually, even that isn't quite right because the argument is about workers being happy, not workers being bound to the cube, or whatever.
Browsing by rating is also really deficient. Sure, you can filter by rating, but there isn't a button that can be used to navigate to a post's parent, or display its children. Headline-only display is also not supported.
Typically I browse at something like +4 for full comments, and maybe +1 for headlines. Then if a thread is interesting I can expand and read more of it. When looking at a post I can easily hit parent and find its parent even if not displayed.
Yup, from my trips to Japan I definitely got the impression that looking busy was key. A coworker who was over there delegated a 15 minute job to somebody and they came back in two hours with it done. Of course, his Japanese colleagues stayed much later and came in much earlier, and often had lots of stuff to show off the next morning that they created after he had left.
technological advancements didn't make just it "look like" workers were more productive. IT actually made them more productive. We have more stuff now, because workers produced more stuff.
That's like saying that happy people live longer, because the happy person that I gave an antibiotic lived longer than the sad person I left to fend with the plague on their own.
If you want to measure the effects of happiness on productivity then you need to control all the other variables.
KDE needing 4GB of RAM? where are you getting that? my KDE 4 install hasn't been above 2 GB in use since I installed it (somewhere around 4.5)
Well, I can't claim to have built 15 PCs with RAM ranging from 500MB to 4GB and running benchmarks on each one. Certainly my PC with 2GB of RAM in the past really strugged to run 4.0. It might very well have run 4.5 OK (memory demand went down I believe since the first release).
Also, KDE is not the only thing running on the machine. My point wasn't to document the system requirements for KDE, but rather that memory issues aren't nearly as critical now as they were when 4.0 first came out.
True, and one way you could outsource is to just print a ton of money and fence it. I give you $100 in counterfeit bills, and you hand me $50 in real ones. You don't have to worry about making counterfeits, and I don't worry about how to get rid of it.
The problem is that that press is a big expensive single point of failure. I can run a drug empire that involves lots of people cooking meth in their kitchens or whatever. If the cops bust one no big deal. On the other hand, if I had to smuggle some press that costs $10M and weighs 10 tons then if the cops grab it that puts me out of business. It sounds like these presses aren't just expensive, but they're monitored.
Perhaps some set of circumstances allowed a counterfeiter to get their hands on one untraced, but that doesn't mean that it could be reproduced. I heard a story passed down in college about a jar of morphine that was discovered in a basement somewhere that predated the regulation of narcotics. It probably had a huge street value (commercially prepared, high purity, probably well-preserved). They ended up quietly destroying it so that they could avoid dealing with the mountain of paperwork and questions about how it got missed. However, if they sold it they might have made quite a bit of money. That doesn't mean that they could turn that into a business model - there wasn't some bottomless basement full of magical morphine jars that they could mine.
In the UK unless they have a dpa registration (and it'd have to allow for this) I suspect they'd be breaking the law. IANAL
Well, I'm sure 90% of bittorrent users are breaking the law as well. That's my point - passing laws is pointless when you're talking about the sharing of data. Facial recognition data is far easier to share than video - it is much more compact.
So unless you were merely unclear as to your issues, which appears to be true for the entirety of your post, you're not anchored to one PC.
What's unclear? I asked for an FOSS Google Docs-like office suite.
Google Docs works, but just as I prefer to store my TV on an FOSS DVR I'd also prefer to do my document editing in a FOSS word processor.
As to the rest of it, what are you on about? Google docs is already working in a browser, and being non-FOSS software has nothing to do with anything you're asking for, which is "runs under a browser".
Well, sure. But I can run Windows if all I want is an operating system. The benefits of FOSS go beyond whether it does the job.
You can mount a cloud service storage on your system and use libreoffice if your issue is that you want the data available and stored in the cloud.
There aren't exactly a lot of great cloud storage services that are FOSS even if that is the only part that you want to solve. I don't really see an FOSS alternative to something like Google Drive or Dropbox.
You can install libreoffice on any desktop with linux or windows on, which probably covers you for all your needs, there's no more need for it to be a browser app any more than the browser needs to be runnable under a browser.
Libreoffice requires X11 or Windows or OSX. My phone runs none of these, and neither does my tablet. My laptop definitely runs Linux, but I'm not actually sure if it even runs X11 (certainly it doesn't support installing libreoffice or connections from random X11 clients).
Also, libreoffice does not support simultaneous editing across multiple clients, and even if it did I'm not aware of any cloud services which do (including non-FOSS options).
The only way to change the government of any country seamlessly over the course of weeks is to exterminate the entire local population, and doing that in a matter of weeks is a challenge. Obviously that isn't going to happen...
a team could easily buy $250k worth of precious metals / high end electronics at flea markets or craigslist in a weekend in NYC
Yeah, but could that be sustained? So you hand out $1M in $20 bills and send 10 guys out shopping for computers and cameras and junk. Now you have a warehouse full of consumer stuff in boxes. Now you have to open up an ebay store just to unload all of it, and you've made $200k. Are you going to repeat next weekend? Will the guy at the camera store get suspicious when some kid comes in every weekend to buy every camera for sale with a stack of $20s? Will the Secret Service not notice $200k/week in counterfeit currency showing up in NYC? And just how many cameras do you think you can actually sell on eBay unless you deeply discount them? If you do deeply discount them, won't that get noticed (or avoided by consumers expecting a scam)?
This press was turning out hundreds of millions of dollars. It isn't that easy to go buying stuff with that kind of volume of cash without hiring an army of accomplices. If you hire an army of accomplices you have to give them all a cut, and some are going to be stupid and get caught.
About the only people who do business in that kind of volume of cash are drug dealers and bankers. You really don't want to mess with the first, and I'd think the second would be smarter than to accept huge volumes of counterfeit money unless this is like oil futures where a barrel of oil gets sold 47 times while the tanker is still on its way across the Atlantic.
If you count reserve troops North Korea has the largest army in the world.
Does that include China's army? That's their fallback source of power.
I doubt China is all that interested in getting shot up over NK. They of course don't want the US to invade and be sitting on their border, and they don't want the refugees. However, they really don't care all that much about NK aside from the fact that they give the US a headache from time to time.
China is mostly interested in the status quo. The last thing they want is NK firing off nuclear missiles, and they probably don't care for NK to even have them since if things change down the road those missiles will be far more effectively used against China than the US (half a world away, and with the technology to intercept them).
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The once a year part is annoying as well, since anything good you've done that wasn't last week has been pushed off the stack.
Worse than that, anything good you've done that wasn't during a one week span of time five months ago has been pushed off the stack. There is usually a delay in large companies between creating an assessment and sharing it with an employee that lasts a few months.
Oh, and during that few-month dead zone nothing counts. If you do something big during this time it will just be considered part of the baseline for the next review.
What's the tracking distance of Phalanx?
My only concern with CIWS is how far out it can track a ground-hugging hypersonic missile. You don't have a lot of time to engage it when you can't see it over the horizon. Even at 60 ft elevation on a ship, the horizon is only 8-9 miles away.
That gives you, what, maybe 5-6 seconds from detection at the horizon to impact. You'd have to have your Vulcan firing 2 seconds after detection to hit it.
If you only have two seconds to fire in order to score a hit, the missile only has two seconds to maneuver towards you in order to score a hit. I can't see how a sea-skimming hypersonic missile could hit a ship unless its position at time of impact were known with high accuracy.
The ability of a hypersonic weapon to jink is going to be very limited. Honestly, it will be so limited that I have no idea how it would even hit a ship in the first place unless it were stationary, or the missile had a very high trajectory and powerful sensors so that it could acquire the ship 75 miles away. Of course, in the latter case the ship could also acquire the missile even further away and it would be in line-of-sight the whole time for a laser.
A hypersonic missile fired at a ship designed to appear above the waves a second before impact will probably appear above the waves just to find no ships a second ahead of it.
You wouldn't need 20x the energy delivery. You might need 20x more power in the first femtosecond or whatever until the coating is burned through, and then you'd need only the amount of energy normally needed to ablate through the rest of the armor after that.
As soon as the surface of the mirror starts to burn it isn't a mirror any longer.
Agree that a hypersonic missile would work against a fixed target.
Nukes are great at killing things, and then getting yourself killed. Their main purpose is to exterminate the entire human race and they don't work very well if used with any other goal in mind.
Agree on the anti-ship bit. In order to fire a conventional missile at a ship you only need to know its location within a few miles, and if you know its direction of travel you can have even less certainty. The missile is programmed to fly to a particular point and turn on its radar, then to travel along a course looking for something to destroy. If the missile spots a ship within a few miles to either side of its flight path then it turns towards it and attacks it. A conventional missile has no trouble turning because it is traveling at a somewhat slow speed (granted, faster than most aircraft).
A hypersonic missile couldn't change course very quickly due to its high speed and likely small control surfaces (if they were big they'd rip right off when used). It might be hard to shoot down the missile if you spot it only seconds away, but that problem works just as well in reverse - if the missile spots you only a second or two away it will have a hard time steering towards you. Now, you could put a huge radar on the front and fly at high altitude to spot a ship 50 miles away and have more time to turn towards it, but that also means that the ship has more time to fire back.
Against a fixed land target a hypersonic missile would be very effective - it would have no radio emissions, though it would no doubt be quite bright in IR. You'd need to spot them a long way off using power radar, which of course is vulnerable to attack.
What do you do about Bill Gates, who could claim tens of millions of dollars from a being pulled away from work for a day or two. Small towns would be afraid of ticketing any Mercedes or Porsches.
You pay him tens of millions of dollars. If you issue valid tickets you're fine, and if you don't you're not.
If I crash into a parked Porche I have to pay a lot more than if I crash into a parked Kia.
Apply your silly argument to electrical wiring and you'll see exactly how silly it is.
If it weren't for the requirement for licensed electricians and the long precedent of company-sinking lawsuits when these laws are broken, you'd probably get electrocuted every time you touched a store shelf.
At my workplace the telecom gear is all centrally managed, but with about as generic a configuration as you could imagine. Network credentials really only have a few levels of access - if they can connect to the VPN they can connect to ANYTHING. If you have physical access to a network port, then you can also connect to anything. In both cases the ID might not let you log into any particular resource, but the network will route arbitrary packets just about anywhere.
Apparently the door card readers are an exception because the last time I needed to have one of those installed it cost a fortune to run security conduit (filled with pressurized gas with a sensor so that it would be very difficult to tamper with the cable run without being detected). Of course the door this protected was made out of wood and located in a building that was essentially unoccupied over the weekend (though you would need off-hours access (which is readily available but logged) unless you planned to enter during business hours and hide in a bathroom).
All the arguments above are true - we could have ACLs on everything, VLANs, RBAC on servers, and all the other goodies. The problem is that maintaining all that stuff costs somebody time and as a result we end up with ACLs that get half populated before somebody just sets some really broad grant of permission.
(Kind of like when clueless IT fuckups try to use their standard lies on better-informed software developers.)
Yeah, but at least in the workplace the people the lies are targeted at have to pretend they can't see through them. In the end if the company wants to pay you to help it fail, well, it is a paycheck you can collect while you look for something better.
In the case of people you aren't paying if you pull a Digg, OpenOffice, or XFree86 the results have already been demonstrated...
I don't even have threaded comments. Just flat. As close to static layout as possible.
Pity - you missed one of the most annoying features of the new beta then. If you have a threaded view then you can collapse posts to headlines and also get the "3 hidden comments" link for completely suppressed posts, which really helps to give a thread context. Posts also have a parent link. All of this means that when I find a particularly interesting thread I can quickly expand all the posts and get more info (sure, that includes some junk, but it also includes really great comments that just haven't gotten modded up yet).
All of that stuff is missing in the beta. I can filter the whole list down to +5 or whatever, but then I just see a few posts and no context at all. I can't pick one of those posts and start expanding filtered posts around it - at best I can copy some text out of it, unfilter the whole thing, and then search to figure out where in the mess it went.
The beta is really poor at comment navigation.
I'd speculate that he was talking about whether they can be shared, not whether he knows what they are.
Agree. We finally are getting to the point where everybody is taking mobile seriously and putting up mobile versions of everything. This is just in time so that I can figure out how to override this on each site so that my tablet doesn't have buttons that are 8 inches wide. Back when I was trying to browse on a feature phone I had to try to navigate mazes full of frames...
I agree with that, but going WAY back in the thread it was suggested that serfs weren't very happy, and they weren't very productive (both compared to modern workers). Both are true, but to establish a causal relationship you need to control for the impact of technology. Would a modern serf be less productive than a modern employee? Actually, even that isn't quite right because the argument is about workers being happy, not workers being bound to the cube, or whatever.
Browsing by rating is also really deficient. Sure, you can filter by rating, but there isn't a button that can be used to navigate to a post's parent, or display its children. Headline-only display is also not supported.
Typically I browse at something like +4 for full comments, and maybe +1 for headlines. Then if a thread is interesting I can expand and read more of it. When looking at a post I can easily hit parent and find its parent even if not displayed.
The new UI allows none of this.
And the easiest way to do that would be to compare productivity and happiness of workers that are in close temporal and geographical proximity.
Comparing productivity and happiness of workers today with slaves in the 1800s or feudal serfs in the middle ages, or cavemen seems pretty pointless
That was basically my point.
Likewise, a regular 'simulated annealing' algorithm doesn't require a heat engine to run.
I know what you're trying to say, but think about what you just said for a minute...
Yup, from my trips to Japan I definitely got the impression that looking busy was key. A coworker who was over there delegated a 15 minute job to somebody and they came back in two hours with it done. Of course, his Japanese colleagues stayed much later and came in much earlier, and often had lots of stuff to show off the next morning that they created after he had left.
technological advancements didn't make just it "look like" workers were more productive. IT actually made them more productive. We have more stuff now, because workers produced more stuff.
That's like saying that happy people live longer, because the happy person that I gave an antibiotic lived longer than the sad person I left to fend with the plague on their own.
If you want to measure the effects of happiness on productivity then you need to control all the other variables.
KDE needing 4GB of RAM? where are you getting that? my KDE 4 install hasn't been above 2 GB in use since I installed it (somewhere around 4.5)
Well, I can't claim to have built 15 PCs with RAM ranging from 500MB to 4GB and running benchmarks on each one. Certainly my PC with 2GB of RAM in the past really strugged to run 4.0. It might very well have run 4.5 OK (memory demand went down I believe since the first release).
Also, KDE is not the only thing running on the machine. My point wasn't to document the system requirements for KDE, but rather that memory issues aren't nearly as critical now as they were when 4.0 first came out.
True, and one way you could outsource is to just print a ton of money and fence it. I give you $100 in counterfeit bills, and you hand me $50 in real ones. You don't have to worry about making counterfeits, and I don't worry about how to get rid of it.
The problem is that that press is a big expensive single point of failure. I can run a drug empire that involves lots of people cooking meth in their kitchens or whatever. If the cops bust one no big deal. On the other hand, if I had to smuggle some press that costs $10M and weighs 10 tons then if the cops grab it that puts me out of business. It sounds like these presses aren't just expensive, but they're monitored.
Perhaps some set of circumstances allowed a counterfeiter to get their hands on one untraced, but that doesn't mean that it could be reproduced. I heard a story passed down in college about a jar of morphine that was discovered in a basement somewhere that predated the regulation of narcotics. It probably had a huge street value (commercially prepared, high purity, probably well-preserved). They ended up quietly destroying it so that they could avoid dealing with the mountain of paperwork and questions about how it got missed. However, if they sold it they might have made quite a bit of money. That doesn't mean that they could turn that into a business model - there wasn't some bottomless basement full of magical morphine jars that they could mine.
In the UK unless they have a dpa registration (and it'd have to allow for this) I suspect they'd be breaking the law.
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Well, I'm sure 90% of bittorrent users are breaking the law as well. That's my point - passing laws is pointless when you're talking about the sharing of data. Facial recognition data is far easier to share than video - it is much more compact.
So unless you were merely unclear as to your issues, which appears to be true for the entirety of your post, you're not anchored to one PC.
What's unclear? I asked for an FOSS Google Docs-like office suite.
Google Docs works, but just as I prefer to store my TV on an FOSS DVR I'd also prefer to do my document editing in a FOSS word processor.
As to the rest of it, what are you on about? Google docs is already working in a browser, and being non-FOSS software has nothing to do with anything you're asking for, which is "runs under a browser".
Well, sure. But I can run Windows if all I want is an operating system. The benefits of FOSS go beyond whether it does the job.
You can mount a cloud service storage on your system and use libreoffice if your issue is that you want the data available and stored in the cloud.
There aren't exactly a lot of great cloud storage services that are FOSS even if that is the only part that you want to solve. I don't really see an FOSS alternative to something like Google Drive or Dropbox.
You can install libreoffice on any desktop with linux or windows on, which probably covers you for all your needs, there's no more need for it to be a browser app any more than the browser needs to be runnable under a browser.
Libreoffice requires X11 or Windows or OSX. My phone runs none of these, and neither does my tablet. My laptop definitely runs Linux, but I'm not actually sure if it even runs X11 (certainly it doesn't support installing libreoffice or connections from random X11 clients).
Also, libreoffice does not support simultaneous editing across multiple clients, and even if it did I'm not aware of any cloud services which do (including non-FOSS options).
The only way to change the government of any country seamlessly over the course of weeks is to exterminate the entire local population, and doing that in a matter of weeks is a challenge. Obviously that isn't going to happen...
a team could easily buy $250k worth of precious metals / high end electronics at flea markets or craigslist in a weekend in NYC
Yeah, but could that be sustained? So you hand out $1M in $20 bills and send 10 guys out shopping for computers and cameras and junk. Now you have a warehouse full of consumer stuff in boxes. Now you have to open up an ebay store just to unload all of it, and you've made $200k. Are you going to repeat next weekend? Will the guy at the camera store get suspicious when some kid comes in every weekend to buy every camera for sale with a stack of $20s? Will the Secret Service not notice $200k/week in counterfeit currency showing up in NYC? And just how many cameras do you think you can actually sell on eBay unless you deeply discount them? If you do deeply discount them, won't that get noticed (or avoided by consumers expecting a scam)?
This press was turning out hundreds of millions of dollars. It isn't that easy to go buying stuff with that kind of volume of cash without hiring an army of accomplices. If you hire an army of accomplices you have to give them all a cut, and some are going to be stupid and get caught.
About the only people who do business in that kind of volume of cash are drug dealers and bankers. You really don't want to mess with the first, and I'd think the second would be smarter than to accept huge volumes of counterfeit money unless this is like oil futures where a barrel of oil gets sold 47 times while the tanker is still on its way across the Atlantic.
If you count reserve troops North Korea has the largest army in the world.
Does that include China's army? That's their fallback source of power.
I doubt China is all that interested in getting shot up over NK. They of course don't want the US to invade and be sitting on their border, and they don't want the refugees. However, they really don't care all that much about NK aside from the fact that they give the US a headache from time to time.
China is mostly interested in the status quo. The last thing they want is NK firing off nuclear missiles, and they probably don't care for NK to even have them since if things change down the road those missiles will be far more effectively used against China than the US (half a world away, and with the technology to intercept them).