So let me take the anology this way. Darwin, the core and the main power behind OS X is open source. Aqua, is like a game in that it's written to run in Darwin. Therefore if you want Open source OS X, download Darwin and write or download your own GUI. But whether or not you use open source, the fact of the mater is, without closed source software to model after, there would be very little innovation in OSS. Closed source is profitable to businesses, but only if their product is different from the competators, hence lots of innovation (Not all well implimented though). It's these innivations that OSS thrives on.
I will not argue that a person can build their own PC for less than a mac. That's a given. ANd ou can build a card for less than a new one too. When you talk price comparisions, talk about prices from vendors. After all, the vendors like gateway and dell, whether or not you want to admit it, are the people that the average consumer is buying from.
There's a version of Win NT that runs on PPC. and it failed miserably because no one who owns a mac would want windows.
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Open office is getting there, but it has some bugs. Anyone know why Open Office won't open files over a certain size? Speficaly they are TextCVS files?
Seeing as how the tech marke twas ina slump, does it suprise you to see that they're *SALES* (market share is the number of computers used, AFAIK) wne down? And where are the numbers about Dell? And Compaq? How about Gateway? Notice how the numbrer of name brand computer vendors is shrinking?
I'm not an expert on these things so don't quote me on it. But if you could configure an smb printer on a linux box via the command line, you can probably do the same thing in OS X. I would seuggest gong to the Apple Knowledge Base boards and asking there.
Speaking from personal experience, on laptops, I prefer one button. Since I always keep one hand on teh keyboard, and the track pad is alread close to the keyboard, using the modifier keys is easer then having two buttons on a track pad. And I hav enever had a problem with contextual menues, can you give specifics?
Yet works flawlessly with my two button optical scroll logitech. Imagine that!
If you are so hard set in your ways that something simple like a mouse will turn you away form a company forever, I doubt Apple wants you as a customer anyways.
1) Newbies. Ever try to ddo tech support for s new computer user? Two buttons confuse them. One button makes things very easy. Click, double click.
2) The system was designed arround one button. You don't need two buttons to access the functionality of the mac OS. Therefore, it doesn't make sence to include two button mice. Those who are used to them and want them, should already have them, therefore they don't need another.
WTF? Are you stupid or something? Fastest G4 speed is currently dual 1.25 Ghz. OS X is UNIX my friend, take a quick run down to Apple's web site and actualy do some research before you spout bull shit.
ANd why is it that so many "geeks" thing the "hard to use" == better?
You obviously didn't read the article, not he talks about price commparisons, and in terms of portables, Apple is very very very competative.
I'd say apple has given a lot to the OSS community, namely credability. Like it or not, commercial support of OSS is a good thing. It makes you seem like you have something to offer.
I hardly see people bitch and moan when a new game like UT 2k3 is released. Never mind that it's all closed source and you can't change it at all, linux users rejoice when a game is ported to their machines.
commercial software when done right provides a quality that is hard to match let alone beat with free software.
2) I'm not even going to get into this debate.
3) Sluggish if he last time you used or saw (I doubt you've ever used) was OS X Beta
Um, correct me if I'm wrong, but can't you already run the X server under OS X? I could swear you can Unless of course I'm misinterpreting what you said.As for the mouse, as has been said over and over and over and over, PLUG THE DAMN 12 BUTTON MOUSE INTO THE MAC
When hell freezes over and microsoft goes out of business. There's a lot of reasons to stick with their own hardware system, Microsoft dominence being the biggest, but also because of Offix for mac.
If you really want OS X, stop wasting your money dropping new upgrades into your PC, and save some money to buy a new iMac. If after you have given the mac a reasonable effort (that is, not giving up the first time it doesn't behave like your windows box) and you still really don't like it, you can sell it again or return it and more likely than not get 90-100% of your investment back.
And so Apple has made a system then for all users. For the most users, there's a nice easy to use, intuitive GUI. For the other people who do care what's underneith, there's BSD and darwin.
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Except mac users aren't bitching about the evils of closed source programs
So let me take the anology this way. Darwin, the core and the main power behind OS X is open source. Aqua, is like a game in that it's written to run in Darwin. Therefore if you want Open source OS X, download Darwin and write or download your own GUI. But whether or not you use open source, the fact of the mater is, without closed source software to model after, there would be very little innovation in OSS. Closed source is profitable to businesses, but only if their product is different from the competators, hence lots of innovation (Not all well implimented though). It's these innivations that OSS thrives on.
And the Apple links should have linked to powerbook and iMac pages, sorry.
I will not argue that a person can build their own PC for less than a mac. That's a given. ANd ou can build a card for less than a new one too. When you talk price comparisions, talk about prices from vendors. After all, the vendors like gateway and dell, whether or not you want to admit it, are the people that the average consumer is buying from.
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And try ebay too.
Only the high end systems are custom orderable? Really?
And show me these PC Vs Mac Laptops comparrisons you say are so horrble.
There's a version of Win NT that runs on PPC. and it failed miserably because no one who owns a mac would want windows.
Open office is getting there, but it has some bugs. Anyone know why Open Office won't open files over a certain size? Speficaly they are TextCVS files?
Seeing as how the tech marke twas ina slump, does it suprise you to see that they're *SALES* (market share is the number of computers used, AFAIK) wne down? And where are the numbers about Dell? And Compaq? How about Gateway? Notice how the numbrer of name brand computer vendors is shrinking?
I'm not an expert on these things so don't quote me on it. But if you could configure an smb printer on a linux box via the command line, you can probably do the same thing in OS X. I would seuggest gong to the Apple Knowledge Base boards and asking there.
Speaking from personal experience, on laptops, I prefer one button. Since I always keep one hand on teh keyboard, and the track pad is alread close to the keyboard, using the modifier keys is easer then having two buttons on a track pad. And I hav enever had a problem with contextual menues, can you give specifics?
Yet works flawlessly with my two button optical scroll logitech. Imagine that!
If you are so hard set in your ways that something simple like a mouse will turn you away form a company forever, I doubt Apple wants you as a customer anyways.
Sonnet provides many inexpensive processor upgrade for many mac models. Seems to me like I cna upgrade my mac just like you can upgrade your PC.
Um, you can log into a non-root account auto maticaly, it's in the users control pannel I believe
Two reasons for the mouse:
1) Newbies. Ever try to ddo tech support for s new computer user? Two buttons confuse them. One button makes things very easy. Click, double click.
2) The system was designed arround one button. You don't need two buttons to access the functionality of the mac OS. Therefore, it doesn't make sence to include two button mice. Those who are used to them and want them, should already have them, therefore they don't need another.
you'd better not be playing any commercial games then. ANd I hope you're not using wine to get anything done either.
WTF? Are you stupid or something? Fastest G4 speed is currently dual 1.25 Ghz. OS X is UNIX my friend, take a quick run down to Apple's web site and actualy do some research before you spout bull shit.
ANd why is it that so many "geeks" thing the "hard to use" == better?
With two processors and an OS that natively supports multiple processors? Some how I doubt it.
You obviously didn't read the article, not he talks about price commparisons, and in terms of portables, Apple is very very very competative.
I'd say apple has given a lot to the OSS community, namely credability. Like it or not, commercial support of OSS is a good thing. It makes you seem like you have something to offer.
You can also run X server on OS X
I use click and hold. I rarely need to access a contextual menue. Since I always have one hand on the key board, the keyboard shortcuts work better.
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commercial != bad
I hardly see people bitch and moan when a new game like UT 2k3 is released. Never mind that it's all closed source and you can't change it at all, linux users rejoice when a game is ported to their machines.
commercial software when done right provides a quality that is hard to match let alone beat with free software.
2) I'm not even going to get into this debate.
3) Sluggish if he last time you used or saw (I doubt you've ever used) was OS X Beta
Um, correct me if I'm wrong, but can't you already run the X server under OS X? I could swear you can Unless of course I'm misinterpreting what you said.As for the mouse, as has been said over and over and over and over, PLUG THE DAMN 12 BUTTON MOUSE INTO THE MAC
When hell freezes over and microsoft goes out of business. There's a lot of reasons to stick with their own hardware system, Microsoft dominence being the biggest, but also because of Offix for mac.
If you really want OS X, stop wasting your money dropping new upgrades into your PC, and save some money to buy a new iMac. If after you have given the mac a reasonable effort (that is, not giving up the first time it doesn't behave like your windows box) and you still really don't like it, you can sell it again or return it and more likely than not get 90-100% of your investment back.
And so Apple has made a system then for all users. For the most users, there's a nice easy to use, intuitive GUI. For the other people who do care what's underneith, there's BSD and darwin.
And, incidentally, no, I don't find it a problem having only one mouse button
There you have it folks, you don't need 2 buttons to get stuff done.