There is one big point for consoles that keeps me buying them despite being able to get plenty of games for the PC (other than FF), that is dedication. Because my console does not run windows (or mac OS or linux whatever), because it can't word process, because AIM won't run on it, because it doesn't acts as an alarm clock store numbers and play MP3s, the console is a better machine for gaming. All the hardware goes into running the game. No wasted cycles on the OS, or anything but the game. It's actualy a big complaint I have with consoles becomming for PC like is that we're taking resources away from the game. And that is bad.
So far they have been outsmarting the linux developers. That's why Windows is still the dominate PC OS. Despite the fact that Linux is availible in every computer store, including CompUSA for less than Windows, and despite the fact that anyone can download it for free, windows still dominates. And that's because Windows has been outsmarting Linux. But not just with their own programmers, with the rest of the programmers in commercial development too. The big apps, the ones that people are buying, still aren't programmed for Linux. Untill Linux gets better commercial support as well as community support, M$ can continue to outsmart linux by sheer size alone.
I have shown your post to a considerable base (roughly 20 people) of whom I consider knowledgeable in computers. All these people also think I'm a moron for sticking to a mac. Yet in each case, each one of these people described you and your post as fanatical and unrealistic. Many also said that the very fact that you can't go two sentences without swearing and can't seem to pull together the language or intelligence of someone with a highschool diploma destroys all your credability. Also note that your credability goes out the window as soon as you question the ability of a person who uses a mac to do work. I'm also positive that if we were to thow your posts into a slashdot poll, most people would say the same. Aguments are one thing, I can handle being proved wrong (and I have the karma to prove it), being a jerk and an asshole are not excuseable which I assume is why you post AC. My guess is your account is so poorly moderated you post at -1 everytime.
Again though you contradict yourself, you said and I quote:
Of course commercial software is higher quality -- look at how stable and secure Windows is! Look at how stable MacOS was. That's wonderful high quality stuff there
You then go on to say in this most recent post: Solaris, which we use at work, is much more stable and capable of handling loads that Windows or MacOS simply aren't designed to deal with
All this proves is that some commercial software is of higher quality than others. The fact of the matter is, Solaris is still commercial software.
You may have used a lot of low quality commercial software, but with the exception of one inventory program I came across (which our school for some unknown reason spent thousands of dollars on) I have never come across a commercial software which is as bad as a lot of the non commercial programs. Granted there are nice non commercial programs, but for the most part, commercial and non commercial software are in two different leagues.
What do you want to set up the way you want under OS X that you can't? Have you taken a trip to www.macosxapps.com to see if there is a fix there?
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I don't know if you've tried it before, but the touchpads on macs are of a higher quality than the ones on PCs. I don't know if it's the material of the manufatuer but the mac touch pads are better than the PC ones.
Most of the funky characters can be accessed with an option-vowel + vowel you want key sequence. The person above me has already linked you, but I'll give you another hint. I don't know if they took it out, but OSX (and classic mac OS) came with a program called KeyCaps (do a find file, but I think it's in Apps -> Utilities) This little program allows you to select any font in your system and view what you will get when you press given keys, and then shows you how those key's change as you hold down option, shift command etc, give it a whirl, it's very useful
Stability is not a measure of quality. If you started runing all the back ground stuff that the Mac OS or Windows ran on a continuous basis on your *NIX box, you would find it's stability decreases. For example, when myself and a few other students threw together a beowulf cluster about a year ago using some Sparc 10s donated by GE, we put the system together using RedHat and PVM. The system was immensly stable when it was being run from the text interface only, but as soon as you kicked in a GUI, the stability of the system was cut in half. Eventualy, it got to the point where we just deleted the GUI because it was more trouble than it was worth.
You also say "Look how stable MacOS was" implying that it's now stable, thus disproving your attempt to make the point that Commercial software is not of a higher quality. And don't tell me that it's because the BSD underpinnings are free. Remember BSD like all other versions of UNIX started as "commercial" software (it sure as hell wasn't free)
She did. She went and bought back her back catalouge, sells CDs on line, provides MP3s for download and has more or less avoided mainstream record lables. The complaint againts the RIAA is that it's more or less a cartel of the 4 biggest record lables and they control 95% of the radio and media outlets
It suprises me that you've never even heard of her. Like you, I tend to listen to music from just about every era, though she never appears in many of the compilation sets you find, if you come across anyone in their 40s, most of them have heard of her and many would recomend listening to some of her music. Heck I went to one of her concerts, she does some good stuff.
Being right or wrong in your argument is *HIGHLY* debateable. A lot of your "facts" were out dated. And no, even if you are right, it is not ok to be a rude asshole. Period.
You don't get respect of people by being a jack ass, and likewise, you wouldn't listen to someone being a jackass. People who treat other with respect and dignity and refrain from posting with such offensive intent are the people that actualy get listened to on slashdot. Why else would you post anonomously? Because you're afraid of loosing respect by using your real name. You know that by posting AC, people can't tag you specificaly as a freak and just have your posts automaticaly moderated down to below their threshhold.
Also you should never ever make assumptions. I am not typing this nor my previous message from an apple since my iBook had a bad run in with a pudle of water and a power cord. I know plenty about PCs and Macs and it is my opinion that the mac is a better computer overall. That doesn't mean I don't use a PC.
As for your busy work, I could care less. You have no idea what work on a computer is. I know this because there is no way any self respecting adult with computer knowledge would post like you do.
Really try using the modifiers with the mouse button. On a laptop, having only one button on the track pad is really a blessing. ANd the modifier keys tend to work faster for most things than a two button mouse would. And once you learn all the keyboard shortcuts (which are actualy standardized) the stuff you can do make having one button un noticeable.
As for multiple desktops, you can check version tracker or try www.macosxapps.com
And the keyboard. Yeah it takes a little while to get used to, but you'll come to love the apple laptop keyboards. I wish I could get a similar one for my PC. The low profile buttons and the spring that is in the kays make it one of the fastest and most comfortable keyboards ever.
On a laptop, if you actualy use it right, the modifier keys are superior to multi button track pads
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In classic, it was possible to use ResEdit to remap your keyboard however you want. I suggest you check www.macosxapps.com someone may have a solution for you.
Seeing as how windows will cost me over $200 I'd say $120 for an OS and a developer package is fairly reasonable. Not to mention if you actualy try to find a deal, you can get OS X for $70
Actualy, once you figured out that the puck mouse was not supposed to be held rather it was supposed to be guided, it worked very well. Next time you come across the puck mouse, try this. Gently lay your hand on it so that your hand naturaly cruves over the sides. Don't posistion it so that the tips of your fingers are on the button. Then use your hand to guide the mouse about and if your hand is positioned right, you should be using the part of your fingers closer to your hand to click the button.
At 17 inches, that's no longer a laptop. Sorry, the whole idea of a laptop is portability. How the hell you you plan to fit a 17 inch laptop into a back pack?
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People who use apples are rude and elitist
But you're not? Let me see if I can pull some samples out of your post (and just this post never mind your rant)
...your undersized monkey brain can't understand... they are oft worthless and ancillary... YOU are the retard here, my little loser friend... wouldnt know what the fuck to do with that command line... FreeBSD or die losers... you wouldn't know the fucking difference if it was a brock hitting your face, Zealot... Can you figure out how to run the OpenSSL benchmark... Chew on that you lunatic
and all of that just from a short post. So now tell me who's a fucking elitist bastard? People might actualy listen to you if you came accross as an intelligent, reasonable and thoughtful individual instead of a Bill Gates loving 13 year old with nothing better to do than look at porn all day.
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There is one big point for consoles that keeps me buying them despite being able to get plenty of games for the PC (other than FF), that is dedication. Because my console does not run windows (or mac OS or linux whatever), because it can't word process, because AIM won't run on it, because it doesn't acts as an alarm clock store numbers and play MP3s, the console is a better machine for gaming. All the hardware goes into running the game. No wasted cycles on the OS, or anything but the game. It's actualy a big complaint I have with consoles becomming for PC like is that we're taking resources away from the game. And that is bad.
Roughly the same.
So far they have been outsmarting the linux developers. That's why Windows is still the dominate PC OS. Despite the fact that Linux is availible in every computer store, including CompUSA for less than Windows, and despite the fact that anyone can download it for free, windows still dominates. And that's because Windows has been outsmarting Linux. But not just with their own programmers, with the rest of the programmers in commercial development too. The big apps, the ones that people are buying, still aren't programmed for Linux. Untill Linux gets better commercial support as well as community support, M$ can continue to outsmart linux by sheer size alone.
How can that be off topic?
I still say all the subscription money from slashdot should go towards buying a senator so that we can have a voice in congress.
I have shown your post to a considerable base (roughly 20 people) of whom I consider knowledgeable in computers. All these people also think I'm a moron for sticking to a mac. Yet in each case, each one of these people described you and your post as fanatical and unrealistic. Many also said that the very fact that you can't go two sentences without swearing and can't seem to pull together the language or intelligence of someone with a highschool diploma destroys all your credability. Also note that your credability goes out the window as soon as you question the ability of a person who uses a mac to do work. I'm also positive that if we were to thow your posts into a slashdot poll, most people would say the same. Aguments are one thing, I can handle being proved wrong (and I have the karma to prove it), being a jerk and an asshole are not excuseable which I assume is why you post AC. My guess is your account is so poorly moderated you post at -1 everytime.
Again though you contradict yourself, you said and I quote:
Of course commercial software is higher quality -- look at how stable and secure Windows is! Look at how stable MacOS was. That's wonderful high quality stuff there
You then go on to say in this most recent post:
Solaris, which we use at work, is much more stable and capable of handling loads that Windows or MacOS simply aren't designed to deal with
All this proves is that some commercial software is of higher quality than others. The fact of the matter is, Solaris is still commercial software.
You may have used a lot of low quality commercial software, but with the exception of one inventory program I came across (which our school for some unknown reason spent thousands of dollars on) I have never come across a commercial software which is as bad as a lot of the non commercial programs. Granted there are nice non commercial programs, but for the most part, commercial and non commercial software are in two different leagues.
What do you want to set up the way you want under OS X that you can't? Have you taken a trip to www.macosxapps.com to see if there is a fix there?
I don't know if you've tried it before, but the touchpads on macs are of a higher quality than the ones on PCs. I don't know if it's the material of the manufatuer but the mac touch pads are better than the PC ones.
Most of the funky characters can be accessed with an option-vowel + vowel you want key sequence. The person above me has already linked you, but I'll give you another hint. I don't know if they took it out, but OSX (and classic mac OS) came with a program called KeyCaps (do a find file, but I think it's in Apps -> Utilities) This little program allows you to select any font in your system and view what you will get when you press given keys, and then shows you how those key's change as you hold down option, shift command etc, give it a whirl, it's very useful
Stability is not a measure of quality. If you started runing all the back ground stuff that the Mac OS or Windows ran on a continuous basis on your *NIX box, you would find it's stability decreases. For example, when myself and a few other students threw together a beowulf cluster about a year ago using some Sparc 10s donated by GE, we put the system together using RedHat and PVM. The system was immensly stable when it was being run from the text interface only, but as soon as you kicked in a GUI, the stability of the system was cut in half. Eventualy, it got to the point where we just deleted the GUI because it was more trouble than it was worth.
You also say "Look how stable MacOS was" implying that it's now stable, thus disproving your attempt to make the point that Commercial software is not of a higher quality. And don't tell me that it's because the BSD underpinnings are free. Remember BSD like all other versions of UNIX started as "commercial" software (it sure as hell wasn't free)
So what's wrong with having a day job untill you get some money back? A lot of people do this, work one job while building up another.
She did. She went and bought back her back catalouge, sells CDs on line, provides MP3s for download and has more or less avoided mainstream record lables. The complaint againts the RIAA is that it's more or less a cartel of the 4 biggest record lables and they control 95% of the radio and media outlets
It suprises me that you've never even heard of her. Like you, I tend to listen to music from just about every era, though she never appears in many of the compilation sets you find, if you come across anyone in their 40s, most of them have heard of her and many would recomend listening to some of her music. Heck I went to one of her concerts, she does some good stuff.
Being right or wrong in your argument is *HIGHLY* debateable. A lot of your "facts" were out dated. And no, even if you are right, it is not ok to be a rude asshole. Period.
You don't get respect of people by being a jack ass, and likewise, you wouldn't listen to someone being a jackass. People who treat other with respect and dignity and refrain from posting with such offensive intent are the people that actualy get listened to on slashdot. Why else would you post anonomously? Because you're afraid of loosing respect by using your real name. You know that by posting AC, people can't tag you specificaly as a freak and just have your posts automaticaly moderated down to below their threshhold.
Also you should never ever make assumptions. I am not typing this nor my previous message from an apple since my iBook had a bad run in with a pudle of water and a power cord. I know plenty about PCs and Macs and it is my opinion that the mac is a better computer overall. That doesn't mean I don't use a PC.
As for your busy work, I could care less. You have no idea what work on a computer is. I know this because there is no way any self respecting adult with computer knowledge would post like you do.
If you're giving them away, I will gladly take them off your hands.
Really try using the modifiers with the mouse button. On a laptop, having only one button on the track pad is really a blessing. ANd the modifier keys tend to work faster for most things than a two button mouse would. And once you learn all the keyboard shortcuts (which are actualy standardized) the stuff you can do make having one button un noticeable.
As for multiple desktops, you can check version tracker or try www.macosxapps.com
And the keyboard. Yeah it takes a little while to get used to, but you'll come to love the apple laptop keyboards. I wish I could get a similar one for my PC. The low profile buttons and the spring that is in the kays make it one of the fastest and most comfortable keyboards ever.
On a laptop, if you actualy use it right, the modifier keys are superior to multi button track pads
In classic, it was possible to use ResEdit to remap your keyboard however you want. I suggest you check www.macosxapps.com someone may have a solution for you.
Seeing as how windows will cost me over $200 I'd say $120 for an OS and a developer package is fairly reasonable. Not to mention if you actualy try to find a deal, you can get OS X for $70
Have you looked into the resale value of a mac? The schools still get anywheres from $50 to $100 on the SEs
Some how I doubt it.
Actualy, once you figured out that the puck mouse was not supposed to be held rather it was supposed to be guided, it worked very well. Next time you come across the puck mouse, try this. Gently lay your hand on it so that your hand naturaly cruves over the sides. Don't posistion it so that the tips of your fingers are on the button. Then use your hand to guide the mouse about and if your hand is positioned right, you should be using the part of your fingers closer to your hand to click the button.
At 17 inches, that's no longer a laptop. Sorry, the whole idea of a laptop is portability. How the hell you you plan to fit a 17 inch laptop into a back pack?
But you're not? Let me see if I can pull some samples out of your post (and just this post never mind your rant)
and all of that just from a short post. So now tell me who's a fucking elitist bastard? People might actualy listen to you if you came accross as an intelligent, reasonable and thoughtful individual instead of a Bill Gates loving 13 year old with nothing better to do than look at porn all day.