You do of course relize that the comprehension part is the least of our worries. Try telling your computer to open a temporary file on your computer. Have you seen some of those file names? If we do go to speech commands, we're going to need to get a much better system of naming things (can't name your documents dsfk.txt anymore). As for just getting files or programs to open, Apple's speach recognition does this fairly well. Just place and alias (or the actual file) into the speakable items folder and then tell the computer to open [item name]. They even have a command to make a currently selected item speakable (places an alias in there for you). Admittedly, it isn't the best interface yet, but it's a start. And the voice passwords are just so friggen cool (OS 9 only, when do I get it for X?)
But it seems to me like all this guy is saying is what some of us computer users have known for years. Humans react better to visual stimulus. This is why we have GUIs, why we have icons, why the stop button in netscape is a trafic light. Why road signs are pictues and not words (ask most people to describe a stop sign and they will say a red hexagon, very few times will they say a sign with stop writen on it). This is why the mouse was invented. It's easier to do things based on images and pictures than it is to proces it and put it into words (A picture is worth a thousand words, remember?) This really doesn't suprise me, the folks at Apple, or at Microsoft, or web designers (thumbnails, arrows for buttons etc). People associate images with words and actions, that's why you show the kid a picture of the cat and say "CAT" and not the otherway arround.
Seriously this guy really doesn't make much of a valid point about the voice commands. The basic idea of voice command, at least as I see it is to have something akin to startrek, where you can ask the computer to perform searches and display information via voice or via your own typed input. The voice commands are there to make things easier, not to be the dominate method.
You can be sued, it doesn't mean that the judge will hear the case or you will win, but you can be sued. And if every tom dick and hairy a$$ that fucked up his machine when he installed linux started suing, we would see a very quick end to a lot of open source.
Hz, which is a measure of frequency is the number of times a cycle is completed in a second. A complete cycle consists of one max and one minimum. Therefore, if the are 60 maxes and 60 mins, the frequency is 60 Hz
Regardless, all items which fall under FCC regulations are of course liable to be charged, and must opperate in their levels resonably. For example, while the bosses cell phone is permited to distrbute some interference, if it was enough interference to shut out every other cell phone withing 10 ft, that would be grounds for the FCC to step in a regulate. The FCC is here to regulate for the common good. If it harms the majority, it won't get aproved.
Because of the natuere of incandescent lighting (I believe the basic principle is resistance) when the current turns off in that brief moment while it is switching directions, the bulb remains lit with residual energy. Esentialy, the bulb remains consistanty light.
Florecent lighting however does indeed turn off (or at least loose most of it's energy) when the current switches direction. Hence florecent light is very irritating when exposed to for a long time (ever wonder why all those business execs commit suicide? It isn't cause they aren't getting enough air, it's cause the lights are so friggen annoying)
As the systems administrator for a school disctrict it is his responsibility that the district computers and networks are used for "appropriate uses" and not being used for illegal purposes. Since the district apparently does not have a current policy, "appropriate uses" is arbitrary as determined by the sys-admin and the board of ed untill a policy is drafted
Your argument is like saying that the company who knew that their employees were running a Warez server off their workstation has no responsibility to shut down that employee.
Apple gains another 5% of the market share as Jupiter begins the switch from oeø?® to OS XVI, galacticaly this puts Apple at roughly 45%, with Linux holding another 45% and Windows holding only 10%. Odly enough, Windows remains dominant on earth.
Apple discovered to have stolen code from Martian OS as well as the old Xerox OS.
Humans gain ability to hold their breath for extended periods of time.
New virus tears through the galactic systems, leaving system admins everywhere baffled. Called the Disk Muncher, the only way to stop it appear to be putting a disk into your computer.
In other news, helium breast implants now availible for those of you with some gravity to contend with.
If you took a bullet and droped it at the exact same time you shot another bullet, given perfectly flat terrain for the area neded to conduct said experiement, both bullets would hit the ground at exactly the same time.
A)The windows hater club is very large. Even among windows leaders.
B) Niether does apple. Where in their announcement did they say the 2 year old machines will have no new hardware or software.
C) Every single mac user is a mac user by choice. Therefore, they obviously don't think it's a pain in the ass to be a mac user (or they're masochistic)
You have the legal responsibility to be blocking such programs. Start by finding which programs are most commonly used. I assume the school's network is run through a firewall of some sort? Block the ports that those program run on. Then, set up all the machines so that the users can not run any of the executables except those approved by the school. Then worry about implimenting a policy.
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10 to 10.1 was free to any user who had OS X (just show POP to your local mac dealer). They may charge for X.2 but they may not either, after all, they didn't charge for 9 to 9.1 to 9.2. They may not charge for X.2
Actualy, I thought the classic version of ICQ was better for mac than for windows, it took me forever to figure out how to send a message to a user not in your contact list in the windows version (and no I don't read instructions, if I can't do basic tasks without reading a manual, the program isn't worth using)
The main problem is that OS X is a completely new OS design from our standard OSes. It's a UNIX underpinning, a classic (read backward compatibility layer), it own graphics layer (quartz) and then a GUI on top of it. In herrently the first versions will be very slow, but each succesive version has gotten faster. Give them a bit and it will all work out.
Re:One rather ballsy note from Jobs
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Apple has and always will be (at least partialy) a pirate company (their first flag over the apple HQ was a skull and cross-bones). Apple really does want to see what the maximum limits of technology are and want to see technology be part of your life. As has been noted here before, they aren't very keen on making sure everyone else is happy. They really just do what they think is the best for the industry. If Apple pisses off the RIAA it really doesn't matter to them. In fact, I think it could be really good for "fair use advocates". If the RIAA specificaly starts targeting computer companies (such as Apple) they will be visciously attacked by users, more so than currently.
Funny, people have been hating windows for as long as I cna remember, but it still has a huge chunk of market share. Why? Oh yeah, cause M$ told manufacturers and businesses "TOUGH SHIT!"
Re:Rendezvous sounds interesting... open standard
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Think the protocols could be modified for plug-and-play beowulf clusters? Espesialy if you combined it with the plug-and-play PVM stuff that was availible for X and reported here (although the link eludes me currently).
This really is unfair. First off, Apple is very good at making sure their new OS's will run at useable speeds on older machines. But at the same time, let us not forget that apple is a hardware business. They don't make a lot of money just selling the next OS. So if people start relying to heavily on old machines (I still use a machine from 1996, running OS 9, and I am tempted to try X on it) they start to loose money. Apple "officialy killed" the pre-g3 support for the exact reason of needing hardware sales. They are now "officaly killing" OS 9 because they need developers making X native programs.
The fact that they are looking at handing system processes back to the hardware and not to the software is a good thing (anyone remember how fast the old comodores were [respectively speaking] in rendering and displaying graphics than modern computers are).
Yet even if you cannot take advantage you are not out of the loop, the system will run at least as fast if not faster due to software enhancements, and if worst comes to worst, you could always go staight terminal or go X Window System
Honestly though, what would you do with a 533 system bus? Think about it, your HD is still reading at best at 7200 RPMS, your CD-ROM will max at 52x, and even if you've got some of the higher end DDR ram (I forget the clock speeds on those) there are some indications that the faster RAM is also more unstable, killing a lot of the percieved benifit. Not that I'm saying that a 533 system bus wouldn't be nice (I'm sure it would do some wonders for graphic processing) but I'm not about to complain because I can't shave an extra 3 nano-seconds off my render time for quake.
And they are still plenty back-compatable. There was no statement that Jaguar wouldn't run on the older machines, it just wouldn't use the graphics card enhanced system wide rendering.
Well, I would hope that the killing the DMCA (and other such stupid laws) would rank a little higher than killing ads for most/. readers, but I could be mistaken. Actualy, I was thinking that if the interest group could gain enough support from just the online people at well known geek sites (/., wired, etc etc) that it might be possible to get other companies (Sonic Blue for example) to jump on board and support. Who knows what would happen if we try, but someone has to take the first step, and I don't know the first thing about forming an interest group, but maybe someone else here does.
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You do of course relize that the comprehension part is the least of our worries. Try telling your computer to open a temporary file on your computer. Have you seen some of those file names? If we do go to speech commands, we're going to need to get a much better system of naming things (can't name your documents dsfk.txt anymore). As for just getting files or programs to open, Apple's speach recognition does this fairly well. Just place and alias (or the actual file) into the speakable items folder and then tell the computer to open [item name]. They even have a command to make a currently selected item speakable (places an alias in there for you). Admittedly, it isn't the best interface yet, but it's a start. And the voice passwords are just so friggen cool (OS 9 only, when do I get it for X?)
But it seems to me like all this guy is saying is what some of us computer users have known for years. Humans react better to visual stimulus. This is why we have GUIs, why we have icons, why the stop button in netscape is a trafic light. Why road signs are pictues and not words (ask most people to describe a stop sign and they will say a red hexagon, very few times will they say a sign with stop writen on it). This is why the mouse was invented. It's easier to do things based on images and pictures than it is to proces it and put it into words (A picture is worth a thousand words, remember?) This really doesn't suprise me, the folks at Apple, or at Microsoft, or web designers (thumbnails, arrows for buttons etc). People associate images with words and actions, that's why you show the kid a picture of the cat and say "CAT" and not the otherway arround.
Seriously this guy really doesn't make much of a valid point about the voice commands. The basic idea of voice command, at least as I see it is to have something akin to startrek, where you can ask the computer to perform searches and display information via voice or via your own typed input. The voice commands are there to make things easier, not to be the dominate method.
You can be sued, it doesn't mean that the judge will hear the case or you will win, but you can be sued. And if every tom dick and hairy a$$ that fucked up his machine when he installed linux started suing, we would see a very quick end to a lot of open source.
Hz, which is a measure of frequency is the number of times a cycle is completed in a second. A complete cycle consists of one max and one minimum. Therefore, if the are 60 maxes and 60 mins, the frequency is 60 Hz
I wasn't the original poster of the tread.
I'll just keep using my iBook thank you very much.
If this thing is supposed to be a fully capable laptop-type device (Harddrive, diskdrive, etc) this thing will wiegh in fairly heavy for a "book"
Regardless, all items which fall under FCC regulations are of course liable to be charged, and must opperate in their levels resonably. For example, while the bosses cell phone is permited to distrbute some interference, if it was enough interference to shut out every other cell phone withing 10 ft, that would be grounds for the FCC to step in a regulate. The FCC is here to regulate for the common good. If it harms the majority, it won't get aproved.
Because of the natuere of incandescent lighting (I believe the basic principle is resistance) when the current turns off in that brief moment while it is switching directions, the bulb remains lit with residual energy. Esentialy, the bulb remains consistanty light.
Florecent lighting however does indeed turn off (or at least loose most of it's energy) when the current switches direction. Hence florecent light is very irritating when exposed to for a long time (ever wonder why all those business execs commit suicide? It isn't cause they aren't getting enough air, it's cause the lights are so friggen annoying)
As the systems administrator for a school disctrict it is his responsibility that the district computers and networks are used for "appropriate uses" and not being used for illegal purposes. Since the district apparently does not have a current policy, "appropriate uses" is arbitrary as determined by the sys-admin and the board of ed untill a policy is drafted
Your argument is like saying that the company who knew that their employees were running a Warez server off their workstation has no responsibility to shut down that employee.
But if the people using them are using them for clandestine purposes (and he can prove such) he has the responsibility to stop it.
Apple gains another 5% of the market share as Jupiter begins the switch from oeø?® to OS XVI, galacticaly this puts Apple at roughly 45%, with Linux holding another 45% and Windows holding only 10%. Odly enough, Windows remains dominant on earth.
Apple discovered to have stolen code from Martian OS as well as the old Xerox OS.
Humans gain ability to hold their breath for extended periods of time.
New virus tears through the galactic systems, leaving system admins everywhere baffled. Called the Disk Muncher, the only way to stop it appear to be putting a disk into your computer.
In other news, helium breast implants now availible for those of you with some gravity to contend with.
If you took a bullet and droped it at the exact same time you shot another bullet, given perfectly flat terrain for the area neded to conduct said experiement, both bullets would hit the ground at exactly the same time.
You never met the UNIX chick!
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A)The windows hater club is very large. Even among windows leaders.
B) Niether does apple. Where in their announcement did they say the 2 year old machines will have no new hardware or software.
C) Every single mac user is a mac user by choice. Therefore, they obviously don't think it's a pain in the ass to be a mac user (or they're masochistic)
You have the legal responsibility to be blocking such programs. Start by finding which programs are most commonly used. I assume the school's network is run through a firewall of some sort? Block the ports that those program run on. Then, set up all the machines so that the users can not run any of the executables except those approved by the school. Then worry about implimenting a policy.
10 to 10.1 was free to any user who had OS X (just show POP to your local mac dealer). They may charge for X.2 but they may not either, after all, they didn't charge for 9 to 9.1 to 9.2. They may not charge for X.2
Actualy, I thought the classic version of ICQ was better for mac than for windows, it took me forever to figure out how to send a message to a user not in your contact list in the windows version (and no I don't read instructions, if I can't do basic tasks without reading a manual, the program isn't worth using)
The main problem is that OS X is a completely new OS design from our standard OSes. It's a UNIX underpinning, a classic (read backward compatibility layer), it own graphics layer (quartz) and then a GUI on top of it. In herrently the first versions will be very slow, but each succesive version has gotten faster. Give them a bit and it will all work out.
Apple has and always will be (at least partialy) a pirate company (their first flag over the apple HQ was a skull and cross-bones). Apple really does want to see what the maximum limits of technology are and want to see technology be part of your life. As has been noted here before, they aren't very keen on making sure everyone else is happy. They really just do what they think is the best for the industry. If Apple pisses off the RIAA it really doesn't matter to them. In fact, I think it could be really good for "fair use advocates". If the RIAA specificaly starts targeting computer companies (such as Apple) they will be visciously attacked by users, more so than currently.
Funny, people have been hating windows for as long as I cna remember, but it still has a huge chunk of market share. Why? Oh yeah, cause M$ told manufacturers and businesses "TOUGH SHIT!"
Think the protocols could be modified for plug-and-play beowulf clusters? Espesialy if you combined it with the plug-and-play PVM stuff that was availible for X and reported here (although the link eludes me currently).
This really is unfair. First off, Apple is very good at making sure their new OS's will run at useable speeds on older machines. But at the same time, let us not forget that apple is a hardware business. They don't make a lot of money just selling the next OS. So if people start relying to heavily on old machines (I still use a machine from 1996, running OS 9, and I am tempted to try X on it) they start to loose money. Apple "officialy killed" the pre-g3 support for the exact reason of needing hardware sales. They are now "officaly killing" OS 9 because they need developers making X native programs.
The fact that they are looking at handing system processes back to the hardware and not to the software is a good thing (anyone remember how fast the old comodores were [respectively speaking] in rendering and displaying graphics than modern computers are).
Yet even if you cannot take advantage you are not out of the loop, the system will run at least as fast if not faster due to software enhancements, and if worst comes to worst, you could always go staight terminal or go X Window System
Honestly though, what would you do with a 533 system bus? Think about it, your HD is still reading at best at 7200 RPMS, your CD-ROM will max at 52x, and even if you've got some of the higher end DDR ram (I forget the clock speeds on those) there are some indications that the faster RAM is also more unstable, killing a lot of the percieved benifit. Not that I'm saying that a 533 system bus wouldn't be nice (I'm sure it would do some wonders for graphic processing) but I'm not about to complain because I can't shave an extra 3 nano-seconds off my render time for quake.
And they are still plenty back-compatable. There was no statement that Jaguar wouldn't run on the older machines, it just wouldn't use the graphics card enhanced system wide rendering.
Well, I would hope that the killing the DMCA (and other such stupid laws) would rank a little higher than killing ads for most /. readers, but I could be mistaken. Actualy, I was thinking that if the interest group could gain enough support from just the online people at well known geek sites (/., wired, etc etc) that it might be possible to get other companies (Sonic Blue for example) to jump on board and support. Who knows what would happen if we try, but someone has to take the first step, and I don't know the first thing about forming an interest group, but maybe someone else here does.