Well the biggest problem they are dealing with is standards. In academia there's a criteria for what constitutes a "fact" and a formal process for fact checking. On the "internets", well anyone can submit edits, and claim a factual basis for it.
So a reputation system is pretty useless because special interest groups can mobilize to skew reputation.
Want to have Intelligent Design show more favorably? Ok, get a bunch of like minded people to raise your reputation.
Heck, we even see it on Slashdot when a conservative or liberal viewpoint gets buried in moderation because people of a certain political belief gang up on the opposition.
A lot of what Wikipedia is dealing with is a direct result of the deep divisions on our society. And the fact that unlike World Book Encyclopedia, apparently *everyone* is allowed into the research offices. In a virtual sense of course...
It's about as ignorant as "Oh you have AIDS- you must be a homo". Over 50% of Americans have some form of Herpes.
That statistically includes 50% of your family, the people you date, and perhaps even you. Doctors these days are actually MORE concerned with the spread of Herpes Simplex 1 because people don't think about it being a sexually transmitted disease- but it can be.
So if you're wife has ever had a cold sore, you might want to divorce her (she's too loose), or alternatively- remain celebate.
What an impressive website. Though, one must wonder how a successful treatment (antiretroviral compounds in a cocktail) appear to be successful in reducing the viral load to (here's a word) *undetectable* levels?
Considering I can find websites on the internets that claim we were ruled by an alien lord 95 million years ago, how serious would you expect me to take the claims of a site like this?
Granted- there's a lot of good information on the internet... but please.... let's get a little filter going in what's presented as fact.
Regarding herpes, the negativity of this is more socially imposed rather than from a health standpoint or true medical concern.
The fact of the matter is that a majority of us have herpes of some type (cold sores)- except that infection is not on our genitals.
Personally, I fail to see the alarming hysteria regarding herpes as anything other than social stigma. Social stigmas can be pretty strong, but not life threatening. So my guess is that the herpes stigma these days, is about as powerful as the inter-racial marriage stigma of the 50's.
So I don't see herpes as much of an issue at all. It might be nice to be able to clear an infection medically, but living with it is not a heavy burden. Unless of course the generally held opinions of society (which are wrong) really bother you.
So while one might hope to avoid herpes (and should), herpes is one disease that needs to have it's demonization removed. The only reason the infection get's any play in people's minds is because it's on your genitalia.
So in effect herpes gets stigmatized for the same reasons that some people laugh at "penis jokes".
Umm...
From the context of knowing a great deal about the Gay community, due to family connections, people do restrict their sexual activity a great deal due to HIV.
They don't like it, but most do restrict their activities.
It's also right across Lawler Ave from Niles North High School.
Regarding the demographics in that area, there's a lot of money to the north, and it's standard suburbia south into Chicago proper. The kids from Niles North have more money than brains (I went there- I can say it!). And Old Orchard is a hangout for most young people from the Chicago border north past Wilmette.
The location at Old Orchard is exceptional, and one of the few locations I'd see working for this kind of thing in Chicago.
Sadly though, the person doing this is going to probably fail. There's very little chance a "cyber-gaming cafe" is going to make it. A better shot would be a high quality coffee/cafe type thing, with some computers and gaming thrown in. Make sure it's got the three keys to retail success: "location, location, location!".
I've seen maybe 30 venture of this type around the country. One is still in operation. It's a business that reproduces a non social activity in a social setting. People can game at home... eventually they stop hanging out at the parlor and go home- but the business still has a lease.
Not that I would EVER endorse Microsoft or it's business practices...
But it bears mentioning that as a gamer, and a consultant, my Windows XP license sees more hardware than 99% of computer users.
The above comment aside, I've had to call for reauthorization a few times (normally after 3 or 4 reinstalls) and they always authorize it. I do resent having to call, but I'm unaware of anyone having their license pulled unless the serial number has been dropped onto 500 machines.
Just trying to be fair here. I'd never want to drop to Microsofts level of conduct.
It's more likely that SCO was puppeted by MS in order for MS to avoid getting directly involved. Let's face it, MS can't get involved directly- it would be a bad thing.
After this trial, SCO may be dead- though we might see some (more) interesting IP strategies from MS and it's cronies.
It's got to be sooner rather than later. The whole travesty look like a dam beginning to leak now. Let's hope it resolves cleanly, with a lot of positive press for Linux.
I hope that people appreciate the fact that IBM didn't just lay down on this suit and settle by dumping some money. They could have, and they can afford to do so. But rather, they are playing this out in a manner where there will be a ruling- a ruling where I predict Linux code will be vindicated.
I'll be an IBM customer for a long time due to this. And Whether IBM means it as some grand "do good gesture" or not is meaningless.
The resolution of this will mean that the US will not fall behind in Linux Development. Which they could- assuming the legality of Linux changed here- but not elsewhere.
"Right, as demonstrated by their recent free and open elections."
Uh huh... and there we have the arrogance which surely states that a country *must* have elections? Ahh the exportation of democracy. Sure thing, I'd like to smoke what you are smoking- after all.... how does a country who has been under multiple dynastic governments, over 5000 years, suddenly go democratic? I find it amusing you think democracy, as wonderful as it is, needs to be EVERYONE's government. The sheer arrogance of that thought is indeed striking on your part.
"Whatever you're smoking, you could probably be executed in China for it."
Kent State? Civil Rights? Chemical/Biological warfare tests on unsuspecting civilians, Amendments against Gay Marriage? Facist politics from the right that silences detractors through character assassination.
You are right... we need to export this democracy RIGHT now. After all, the Chinese waited 3 weeks to murder that guy who blocked the tank in Tianamen. We are much more effective. We'd have got the job done in minutes.
Now that I think about it, my comments could get me executed HERE! What a country!
"Give or take a few dozen million dead, sure."
Give Ann a bit of a chance will ya? She's already admitted publicly that certain people *should* die. Of course she's have to get in office and grab a lot more power than little Georgy- but it's doable. Give it time.
"The chinese internet doesn't belong to the chinese government, it belongs to the chinese people. When they have a real democracy then "they" (the people) can decide how to run it. Until then we shouldn't respect how "they" (the government) want to run the internet any more than we would if some bank robbers were holding hostages and "they" (the robbers) wanted to decide how to run the bank."
Puuuleeez!
The Chinese appear to be just fine and happy with the way things are over there. No, we don't need to export democracy. And BTW, it appears we shut our student protests down just as harshly as they do.
The people of China CAN decide, and it appears they have.
"Pray tell how ignoring a packet is an illegal act of hacking by US standards."
Ignoring a reset is a modification of network behavior designed to circumvent security measures. In other words, even if a government machine has no password, it's illegal to try and go "around" any security attempt no matter how feable that security measure may be.
Regarding TCP/IP protocol, if you do not understand what happens when the reset packet is ignored, you have no idea why a DOS might happen (which BTW IS illegal- everywhere with electricity). So an explaination beyond this point serves no purpose unless you have a functional knowledge of TCP/IP.
May I suggest "TCP/IP for Dummies" as a starter? It's a good primer for those starting out.
This has the potential to triple the traffic through their firewall as resets are sent for every packet. So consequently, not only is it an illegal act of hacking (even by US standards) but the potential does exist for a resulting DOS attack that could take the firewall down completely.
Kids have to much time on their hands. No matter how "horrible" Chinese internet policy is by US standards, it's their damned network segment. Let them work it out for themselves.
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Well the biggest problem they are dealing with is standards. In academia there's a criteria for what constitutes a "fact" and a formal process for fact checking. On the "internets", well anyone can submit edits, and claim a factual basis for it.
So a reputation system is pretty useless because special interest groups can mobilize to skew reputation.
Want to have Intelligent Design show more favorably? Ok, get a bunch of like minded people to raise your reputation.
Heck, we even see it on Slashdot when a conservative or liberal viewpoint gets buried in moderation because people of a certain political belief gang up on the opposition.
A lot of what Wikipedia is dealing with is a direct result of the deep divisions on our society. And the fact that unlike World Book Encyclopedia, apparently *everyone* is allowed into the research offices. In a virtual sense of course...
And the trump card...
Ya know, my wife has herpes. And either I'm a fool, or she's the most wonderful woman in the world.
You're right. I'm stupid for pissing my life away.
I'm a moron... I suck.
Will your church accept me?
Raca!
A vague generalization which is meaningless.
It's about as ignorant as "Oh you have AIDS- you must be a homo". Over 50% of Americans have some form of Herpes.
That statistically includes 50% of your family, the people you date, and perhaps even you. Doctors these days are actually MORE concerned with the spread of Herpes Simplex 1 because people don't think about it being a sexually transmitted disease- but it can be.
So if you're wife has ever had a cold sore, you might want to divorce her (she's too loose), or alternatively- remain celebate.
You made my point for me yet again.
The only thing I can say is this:
The flu kills more people that herpes EVER has, probably on a yearly basis.
It's stigma, and you guys have made my point. You've pulled out every extreme medical niche that herpes fits into.
Nice. Not logical or well reasoned... but helpful to my points. Thank you!
Thanks for clearing that up.
What an impressive website. Though, one must wonder how a successful treatment (antiretroviral compounds in a cocktail) appear to be successful in reducing the viral load to (here's a word) *undetectable* levels?
Considering I can find websites on the internets that claim we were ruled by an alien lord 95 million years ago, how serious would you expect me to take the claims of a site like this?
Granted- there's a lot of good information on the internet... but please.... let's get a little filter going in what's presented as fact.
Thank God!
I know that a majority of our government needs to get laid right-freaking-now!
Regarding herpes, the negativity of this is more socially imposed rather than from a health standpoint or true medical concern.
The fact of the matter is that a majority of us have herpes of some type (cold sores)- except that infection is not on our genitals.
Personally, I fail to see the alarming hysteria regarding herpes as anything other than social stigma. Social stigmas can be pretty strong, but not life threatening. So my guess is that the herpes stigma these days, is about as powerful as the inter-racial marriage stigma of the 50's.
So I don't see herpes as much of an issue at all. It might be nice to be able to clear an infection medically, but living with it is not a heavy burden. Unless of course the generally held opinions of society (which are wrong) really bother you.
So while one might hope to avoid herpes (and should), herpes is one disease that needs to have it's demonization removed. The only reason the infection get's any play in people's minds is because it's on your genitalia.
So in effect herpes gets stigmatized for the same reasons that some people laugh at "penis jokes".
Umm... From the context of knowing a great deal about the Gay community, due to family connections, people do restrict their sexual activity a great deal due to HIV. They don't like it, but most do restrict their activities.
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RE: Old Orchard
It's also right across Lawler Ave from Niles North High School.
Regarding the demographics in that area, there's a lot of money to the north, and it's standard suburbia south into Chicago proper. The kids from Niles North have more money than brains (I went there- I can say it!). And Old Orchard is a hangout for most young people from the Chicago border north past Wilmette.
The location at Old Orchard is exceptional, and one of the few locations I'd see working for this kind of thing in Chicago.
Sadly though, the person doing this is going to probably fail. There's very little chance a "cyber-gaming cafe" is going to make it. A better shot would be a high quality coffee/cafe type thing, with some computers and gaming thrown in. Make sure it's got the three keys to retail success: "location, location, location!".
I've seen maybe 30 venture of this type around the country. One is still in operation. It's a business that reproduces a non social activity in a social setting. People can game at home... eventually they stop hanging out at the parlor and go home- but the business still has a lease.
While I'd not want to take *anything* away from the contributions of RMS, I don't think he deserves sainthood.
Stallman would not have, nor could have, fought this fight alone.
He is the person responsible for the idea. And it's a good idea.
Not that I would EVER endorse Microsoft or it's business practices...
But it bears mentioning that as a gamer, and a consultant, my Windows XP license sees more hardware than 99% of computer users.
The above comment aside, I've had to call for reauthorization a few times (normally after 3 or 4 reinstalls) and they always authorize it. I do resent having to call, but I'm unaware of anyone having their license pulled unless the serial number has been dropped onto 500 machines.
Just trying to be fair here. I'd never want to drop to Microsofts level of conduct.
So let me get this straight- you'd rather have only the Republican or Democratic view?
That seems equally as alarming.
Zach- I think you have it wrong.
It's more likely that SCO was puppeted by MS in order for MS to avoid getting directly involved. Let's face it, MS can't get involved directly- it would be a bad thing.
After this trial, SCO may be dead- though we might see some (more) interesting IP strategies from MS and it's cronies.
I KNEW someone would say that~!
Second-
BUT....
Does that mean it will be followed up by "Intelligent Microsoftism"?
I'll pass.
It's got to be sooner rather than later. The whole travesty look like a dam beginning to leak now. Let's hope it resolves cleanly, with a lot of positive press for Linux.
I hope that people appreciate the fact that IBM didn't just lay down on this suit and settle by dumping some money. They could have, and they can afford to do so. But rather, they are playing this out in a manner where there will be a ruling- a ruling where I predict Linux code will be vindicated.
I'll be an IBM customer for a long time due to this. And Whether IBM means it as some grand "do good gesture" or not is meaningless.
The resolution of this will mean that the US will not fall behind in Linux Development. Which they could- assuming the legality of Linux changed here- but not elsewhere.
Go IBM!
I was willing to have an interesting an informed discussion until you attacked the man, rather than the ideas.
Go in peaces.
Nice garbage response.
There's a guy from England being exported to the USA for prosecution over just this issue.
Please. Don't mislead others. In the real world they prosecute these things, always in the case of the government, and sometimes for big business.
"Right, as demonstrated by their recent free and open elections."
Uh huh... and there we have the arrogance which surely states that a country *must* have elections? Ahh the exportation of democracy. Sure thing, I'd like to smoke what you are smoking- after all.... how does a country who has been under multiple dynastic governments, over 5000 years, suddenly go democratic? I find it amusing you think democracy, as wonderful as it is, needs to be EVERYONE's government. The sheer arrogance of that thought is indeed striking on your part.
"Whatever you're smoking, you could probably be executed in China for it."
Kent State? Civil Rights? Chemical/Biological warfare tests on unsuspecting civilians, Amendments against Gay Marriage? Facist politics from the right that silences detractors through character assassination.
You are right... we need to export this democracy RIGHT now. After all, the Chinese waited 3 weeks to murder that guy who blocked the tank in Tianamen. We are much more effective. We'd have got the job done in minutes.
Now that I think about it, my comments could get me executed HERE! What a country!
"Give or take a few dozen million dead, sure."
Give Ann a bit of a chance will ya? She's already admitted publicly that certain people *should* die. Of course she's have to get in office and grab a lot more power than little Georgy- but it's doable. Give it time.
"The chinese internet doesn't belong to the chinese government, it belongs to the chinese people. When they have a real democracy then "they" (the people) can decide how to run it. Until then we shouldn't respect how "they" (the government) want to run the internet any more than we would if some bank robbers were holding hostages and "they" (the robbers) wanted to decide how to run the bank."
Puuuleeez!
The Chinese appear to be just fine and happy with the way things are over there. No, we don't need to export democracy. And BTW, it appears we shut our student protests down just as harshly as they do.
The people of China CAN decide, and it appears they have.
Mau Tse-Tung or Ann Coulter? Same animal...
"Pray tell how ignoring a packet is an illegal act of hacking by US standards."
Ignoring a reset is a modification of network behavior designed to circumvent security measures. In other words, even if a government machine has no password, it's illegal to try and go "around" any security attempt no matter how feable that security measure may be.
Regarding TCP/IP protocol, if you do not understand what happens when the reset packet is ignored, you have no idea why a DOS might happen (which BTW IS illegal- everywhere with electricity). So an explaination beyond this point serves no purpose unless you have a functional knowledge of TCP/IP.
May I suggest "TCP/IP for Dummies" as a starter? It's a good primer for those starting out.
If I'm correct, and I think I am:
This has the potential to triple the traffic through their firewall as resets are sent for every packet. So consequently, not only is it an illegal act of hacking (even by US standards) but the potential does exist for a resulting DOS attack that could take the firewall down completely.
Kids have to much time on their hands. No matter how "horrible" Chinese internet policy is by US standards, it's their damned network segment. Let them work it out for themselves.
heh..
If you strike me down Darth, I shall become more powerful that you can possibly imagine.