Why is it that people say thats too expensive, so it must be the big companies trying to screw everyone? well guess what, Sony just started doing this, its only in japan where CD's are much more expensive, and there won't really be too much of a market for it, so the price is high but it will go down as more and more people start using it. Now the tech that sony is using is the bad thing, forget the price, sooner or later that will go down, but they formats and copy protection they are using are just terrible! i want to be able to move my music around as much as i want, wherever i want, so find a way to be able to only move a file around and not copy it! Yes i can't archive it, but at least its better than what they have now. And if the record companies really want to make some money, make a site with LOTS of banner adds on it and only charge like 50cents for a download.
MP3 is just not going to cut it, at least not in its current form, piracy is already rampent. i logged onto napster for the first time this weekend and i honestly think the record companies should be very worried, there are usualy around 900gigs of illegaly copied MP3's. a lot of artists put a lot of work into that music and there are thousands of people stealing it 24hrs a day! Its not the the record companies that are losing money, the artist are as well. The record companies will do what they have to in order to stay profitable, and if that mean screwing over the artists because a bunch of idiots are stealing the music instead of buying it, then thats exactly what they will do. So instead of complaining about what sony and others are doing, lets work on creating a tech. that does what we want while still ensuring that the material isn't stolen.
The credit seems to be the MPAA guy, but there are all kinds of quotations that aren't attributed to anyone. makes it look like they were taken off of sites distributing deCSS, but they arent credited. On the other hand it may be written by someone from the LA times in which case its incredibly onesided and misleading and in general just a case of bad reporting. Or it my just be an editorial, but its sure hard to tell from the page.
Point #1: this is exactly what the MPAA does not want the courts to realize. Point #2:this really doesn't mean much, kinda ticks me off when people use this as a reason for the CSS people to just let the issue go, deCSS will be around for a long time and in the next few years blank DVD's will drop down to CD-R levels, so lets not kid ourselves ok? Point #3: EXACTLY! they are afraid of DeCSS because they won't beable to control the DVD player market anymore, in fact they my flat out lose it all together. Point #4: you are correct this is just a reaction from the public in response to being ignored by DVD makers. Point #5: the DeCSS people most likely violated Xing's license agreement, so XING should be the one sueing people here, and the CSS people should be going after Xing for screwing up big time. Saying Xing screwed up so its ok to break the license agreement is essentaily the same as saying its ok to hack a gov site because they didn't have enough security.
At least at the university of iowa, i shell out a considerable amount of money for "Student computer fees" plus internet access in dorm rooms costs extra money, i assume its similer across the country, even out lab computers say "payed for by student computer fees" so i'm paying for my internet access directly to the school, not thru taxes. plus how is it gonna cost a school less to not useing as much bandwidth? are they gonna try to run the entire school out of a single t1 line? I think not. Lets not forget that students these days really need to know how to use the internet when they go out into the real world, all these bills will do is give students a lack of expierence and as such, a disadvantage over students at every other school in the country.
oh, lets not forget what kind of state government we are dealing with. as i recall this is the same state that refused to recognize MLK Jr's birthday untill long after everyone else.(btw, i may be mistaken here, but i don't think so, but if so, i appologize)
that may work for you, but if you did that to me i'd make sure you spent time in prison. breaking in and copying my stuff is not ok, it is theft, it is an invasion of privacy, and if you had the nerve to tell me to my face that you did it i am sure a judge would give you an extra long sentence.
Millions of dollars in damages?conduct that caused these companies to shut down their networks?retool? >>By this logic, if I inform someone that their house is on fire, I should be charged with arson.
Uh in your example, he didn't tell them their house was on fire, he broke thru the back door and lit the place up himself and then left a trail of gas cans to his front door. The whole idea that its not his fault because the companies he cracked didn't have enough security is insane, thats like saying its ok to break into my house and copy my 1040's and my credit card bills because i didnt have enough locks on my door. did this really cause me any physical harm? no. but it scary as hell, and could have cost me alot of money by using my credit card number. Just because he didnt use the information he stole shouldn't make it any less of a crime.
How often do you see THX certified dvds? i have seen very few, there is a reason, THX will not certify anamorphic widescreen transfers for some reason, this is one of the great things about DVD video, if you have a widescreen television you can use it, if you don't, you can watch the movie leterboxed, you can even watch it in pan-scan mode if you have some sick desire to. if lucas releases TPM without an anamorphic transfer, the DVD comunity will go nuts, if he does, he completly underminds the THX
The reason they don't want the shuttle up there is simply that it would be such a silly thing to have people die from(space shuttle blows up in massive fire works display visible to entire southern hemisphere,yes i am aware thats an exageration), and at the same time its so incredibly easy to prevent(have them on the ground before anything can go wrong.) yes, there isn't much of a chance of anything going wrong, but why risk it when you don't have to?
This is really pointless, your example is exactly the opposite of what you are saying! sounds to me like even it they had been able to kill their children, there is no way in hell they ever would have dreamed of it! And you say their other kids are now fucked up too, do you mean fucked up like they think its a good idea to kill innocent children because they have problems?
This idea is bad from the beginning, and it will lead to worse ones if its allowed to be put into practice, it may start with just the killing of severly retarded children, but that will lead to the killing of any newborn with any kind of birth defect and from there will lead to the killing of any imperfect child for any from being near sighted to haveing a oversized birthmark! allowing the euthenizing of children because of mental or physical retardation will lead us down a road that 50 years ago we fought to destroy.
Linux is based on UNIX, 30 year old tech that microsoft is just now catching up with i remember just a few years ago when my mircosoft machine didn't even have virtual memory, something unix has had since the late 60's early 70's!
i have read, on CNN.com i believe that the polar lander has its own radio and will still be able to perform its mission, but not was well and will not be able to send back all the data it could if the relay was in place.
Kinda off topic, but i really think its strange that because you can't aim a gun properly and don't hit the person you are shooting at, that you are any less guilty of a crime than if you had actualy shot someone in the face? Yes i know that no one actualy died and there is no greiving family, but if the person wasn't so clumsy then there would be, and being clumsy is NOT a defence.
from what i read in the ZD article, he didn't get arrested for just talking to the girl, he got arrested when he wanted to meet her somewhere and he actualy showed up! if thats not intent then i don't know what is. how else could they have arrested him? watied for him to actualy have sex with a 13yo and then bust him? This is exactly how this kind of arrest should go down.
whats wrong with region protection?? Movies do get released at different times in different parts of the world. Companies make alot of money off of sales of a "new release". but if the movie has already been availible for 3 monthes just by ording it from "distcounted-movie-store".com it cuts a big chunk out of their proffits. This way they have more control over distribution, and the true movie nuts who really just can't wait to get the new disk can simply purchase a non-region coded player.
Ouch! That seems almost pointless! Almost every disk i'v seen in the last several monthes has been dual layered. This also limits the expandability of games. When its first released i'm sure most games won't even fill a fraction of one layer, but after a year or two, alot of games will be wanting to use very high rez cut sceenes with digital audio, this could quickly fill an entire layer. This is also a serious scaling back of DVD tech. even the first comercial DVD players from a few years ago can play dual layered disks, even though none had been produced yet. But, if this whole think is actualy just a mistake, i may have to sell that that ugly DV-414 sitting next to my TV and buy myself a PS2!
So IPIX doesn't think that people should be giving away software for free that is in competition with their own because its unfair?? What is the difference between him giving it away and him selling it for half their price? Is this just a plow to bog people down with leagal trouble that they can't afford to fight so that they have no choice but to give up? Or is there some leagal basis for this? If this is a legitment argument, how long before MicroSoft goes after Linux distributors for exactly the same thing?
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Why is it that people say thats too expensive, so it must be the big companies trying to screw everyone? well guess what, Sony just started doing this, its only in japan where CD's are much more expensive, and there won't really be too much of a market for it, so the price is high but it will go down as more and more people start using it. Now the tech that sony is using is the bad thing, forget the price, sooner or later that will go down, but they formats and copy protection they are using are just terrible! i want to be able to move my music around as much as i want, wherever i want, so find a way to be able to only move a file around and not copy it! Yes i can't archive it, but at least its better than what they have now. And if the record companies really want to make some money, make a site with LOTS of banner adds on it and only charge like 50cents for a download.
MP3 is just not going to cut it, at least not in its current form, piracy is already rampent. i logged onto napster for the first time this weekend and i honestly think the record companies should be very worried, there are usualy around 900gigs of illegaly copied MP3's. a lot of artists put a lot of work into that music and there are thousands of people stealing it 24hrs a day! Its not the the record companies that are losing money, the artist are as well. The record companies will do what they have to in order to stay profitable, and if that mean screwing over the artists because a bunch of idiots are stealing the music instead of buying it, then thats exactly what they will do. So instead of complaining about what sony and others are doing, lets work on creating a tech. that does what we want while still ensuring that the material isn't stolen.
The credit seems to be the MPAA guy, but there are all kinds of quotations that aren't attributed to anyone. makes it look like they were taken off of sites distributing deCSS, but they arent credited. On the other hand it may be written by someone from the LA times in which case its incredibly onesided and misleading and in general just a case of bad reporting. Or it my just be an editorial, but its sure hard to tell from the page.
Point #1: this is exactly what the MPAA does not want the courts to realize. Point #2:this really doesn't mean much, kinda ticks me off when people use this as a reason for the CSS people to just let the issue go, deCSS will be around for a long time and in the next few years blank DVD's will drop down to CD-R levels, so lets not kid ourselves ok? Point #3: EXACTLY! they are afraid of DeCSS because they won't beable to control the DVD player market anymore, in fact they my flat out lose it all together. Point #4: you are correct this is just a reaction from the public in response to being ignored by DVD makers. Point #5: the DeCSS people most likely violated Xing's license agreement, so XING should be the one sueing people here, and the CSS people should be going after Xing for screwing up big time. Saying Xing screwed up so its ok to break the license agreement is essentaily the same as saying its ok to hack a gov site because they didn't have enough security.
At least at the university of iowa, i shell out a considerable amount of money for "Student computer fees" plus internet access in dorm rooms costs extra money, i assume its similer across the country, even out lab computers say "payed for by student computer fees" so i'm paying for my internet access directly to the school, not thru taxes. plus how is it gonna cost a school less to not useing as much bandwidth? are they gonna try to run the entire school out of a single t1 line? I think not. Lets not forget that students these days really need to know how to use the internet when they go out into the real world, all these bills will do is give students a lack of expierence and as such, a disadvantage over students at every other school in the country.
oh, lets not forget what kind of state government we are dealing with. as i recall this is the same state that refused to recognize MLK Jr's birthday untill long after everyone else.(btw, i may be mistaken here, but i don't think so, but if so, i appologize)
that may work for you, but if you did that to me i'd make sure you spent time in prison. breaking in and copying my stuff is not ok, it is theft, it is an invasion of privacy, and if you had the nerve to tell me to my face that you did it i am sure a judge would give you an extra long sentence.
But MitniCK did take stuff. or at least copied it. that IS theft. so whats your point?
Millions of dollars in damages?conduct that caused these companies to shut down their networks?retool?
>>By this logic, if I inform someone that their house is on fire, I should be charged with arson.
Uh in your example, he didn't tell them their house was on fire, he broke thru the back door and lit the place up himself and then left a trail of gas cans to his front door. The whole idea that its not his fault because the companies he cracked didn't have enough security is insane, thats like saying its ok to break into my house and copy my 1040's and my credit card bills because i didnt have enough locks on my door. did this really cause me any physical harm? no. but it scary as hell, and could have cost me alot of money by using my credit card number. Just because he didnt use the information he stole shouldn't make it any less of a crime.
How often do you see THX certified dvds? i have seen very few, there is a reason, THX will not certify anamorphic widescreen transfers for some reason, this is one of the great things about DVD video, if you have a widescreen television you can use it, if you don't, you can watch the movie leterboxed, you can even watch it in pan-scan mode if you have some sick desire to. if lucas releases TPM without an anamorphic transfer, the DVD comunity will go nuts, if he does, he completly underminds the THX
The reason they don't want the shuttle up there is simply that it would be such a silly thing to have people die from(space shuttle blows up in massive fire works display visible to entire southern hemisphere,yes i am aware thats an exageration), and at the same time its so incredibly easy to prevent(have them on the ground before anything can go wrong.) yes, there isn't much of a chance of anything going wrong, but why risk it when you don't have to?
This is really pointless, your example is exactly the opposite of what you are saying! sounds to me like even it they had been able to kill their children, there is no way in hell they ever would have dreamed of it! And you say their other kids are now fucked up too, do you mean fucked up like they think its a good idea to kill innocent children because they have problems?
This idea is bad from the beginning, and it will lead to worse ones if its allowed to be put into practice, it may start with just the killing of severly retarded children, but that will lead to the killing of any newborn with any kind of birth defect and from there will lead to the killing of any imperfect child for any from being near sighted to haveing a oversized birthmark! allowing the euthenizing of children because of mental or physical retardation will lead us down a road that 50 years ago we fought to destroy.
Linux is based on UNIX, 30 year old tech that microsoft is just now catching up with i remember just a few years ago when my mircosoft machine didn't even have virtual memory, something unix has had since the late 60's early 70's!
Acording to CNN a human or software error sent the orbiter into orbit much to close to the surface for it have possibly survived.
i have read, on CNN.com i believe that the polar lander has its own radio and will still be able to perform its mission, but not was well and will not be able to send back all the data it could if the relay was in place.
Uh, try reading it again, says right now that they believe that is in orbit but are trying to regain contact....they have not found it yet.
Kinda off topic, but i really think its strange that because you can't aim a gun properly and don't hit the person you are shooting at, that you are any less guilty of a crime than if you had actualy shot someone in the face? Yes i know that no one actualy died and there is no greiving family, but if the person wasn't so clumsy then there would be, and being clumsy is NOT a defence.
from what i read in the ZD article, he didn't get arrested for just talking to the girl, he got arrested when he wanted to meet her somewhere and he actualy showed up! if thats not intent then i don't know what is. how else could they have arrested him? watied for him to actualy have sex with a 13yo and then bust him? This is exactly how this kind of arrest should go down.
Hell, why didn't one of us patent this first??? if it holds up WE could kept it from ever being used!
oooo...now where does the mod chip go?
whats wrong with region protection?? Movies do get released at different times in different parts of the world. Companies make alot of money off of sales of a "new release". but if the movie has already been availible for 3 monthes just by ording it from "distcounted-movie-store".com it cuts a big chunk out of their proffits. This way they have more control over distribution, and the true movie nuts who really just can't wait to get the new disk can simply purchase a non-region coded player.
Ouch! That seems almost pointless! Almost every disk i'v seen in the last several monthes has been dual layered. This also limits the expandability of games. When its first released i'm sure most games won't even fill a fraction of one layer, but after a year or two, alot of games will be wanting to use very high rez cut sceenes with digital audio, this could quickly fill an entire layer. This is also a serious scaling back of DVD tech. even the first comercial DVD players from a few years ago can play dual layered disks, even though none had been produced yet. But, if this whole think is actualy just a mistake, i may have to sell that that ugly DV-414 sitting next to my TV and buy myself a PS2!
So IPIX doesn't think that people should be giving away software for free that is in competition with their own because its unfair?? What is the difference between him giving it away and him selling it for half their price? Is this just a plow to bog people down with leagal trouble that they can't afford to fight so that they have no choice but to give up? Or is there some leagal basis for this? If this is a legitment argument, how long before MicroSoft goes after Linux distributors for exactly the same thing?