Pretty entertaining and feels like the physics is wrong for a 'collision' with a moving vehicle. The Promobot doesn't even start to fall until the car is almost past it. Seems like both Tesla and Promobot would exhibit some synchronized impulse, with the bot violently being pushed away instead of gently tipping over after the Tesla is half way past. My verdict: 100% fake.
As the main cheerleader for US waterboarding, I've wondered how a motivated individual might subject him (Cheney) to a similarly terrifying and helplessness inducing experience.
Tweaking his pacemaker up & down through it's full range of speeds...with occasional stops & restarts might just do the trick! Just imagine how exciting it would be to discover your heart racing at 180 BPM for no apparent reason...then dropping off to an almost unconsious 20 BPM...now back up to 180 for a bit... Perhaps almost as terrifying as the repeated sensation of drowning.
WebOS was a really cool OS, that had lots of neat features and ran JavaScript apps.
WebOS was built on Linux, and if you're knowledgeable, you can update it.
WebOS had a feature that permitted the user to switch apps by swiping up from the bottom of the screen to see the backgrounded apps. (Note: Android already has a similar feature, accessed by the square icon at screen bottom)
Apple is going to do something similar, so they must be copying from WebOS, and that validates how advanced WebOS was.
If Apple were going to start supporting js apps, you might have a case, otherwise not... There are only 4 sides to the screen too, top is notifications, sides for switching desktop screens, so that only leaves the bottom...which they picked... Coincidence?
Just stating the obvious, but having control of the DNS servers is really helpful for surveillance.
While you might not know the details of the conversation, you would know who is looking for what. Like directory assistance, knowing which people are calling (or looking for) say John Gotti is a really big intelligence advantage. Being able to route that call through one of your network taps gives you the rest of the advantage of interception then. Having some US Corporation in control means automatic '3rd party rule' for all of that data. I think that the rest of the world just figured that gig out.
Glad to see it out of our hands, perhaps this is the 'start of the end' with respect to US hegemony over the world's private conversations.
Now your just making excuses for sloppy work. As a mobile app developer myself, I check ( at least once ) any library/framework that goes into a delivery. I don't bother with the OS, as I assume Google/Apple have that covered. There, that wasn't so hard....
From the supposed CTO...."Trying to figure out what is in a binary is what security researchers do, not app developers, Graves said. After scratching their heads, they guessed that the problem was probably in a third-party framework.". Sorry, you're wrong, that's exactly what app developers are supposed to do.
This should prob. have been an interstitial ad instead of a story! What exactly is going on? Is it a problem with the installed certificates? Weakness in the tools? Which ones are effective and which are weak? How can I determine if my Android has this crapware installed?
How did the moderators decide to let this story through?
The links provide nothing more than a security scanner! There are no specifics other than 'Google is working with OEMs...'. So what? How about providing some information I can use....not ads that are designed to look like news stories.
I've had a similar problem, which simply turned out to be the wall-warts giving up. Replaced them and all is working fine. I think the hardware in the WRT54G is pretty robust, sample size == 3.
HP doesn't have the tradition of a "Computer Company". They make computer hardware, but that doesn't put them in the same league as Apple, IBM, Microsoft, Intel and Oracle. Same goes for Dell and Lenovo.
Full disclosure, I've purchased 2 HP laptops in the last two years, so I'm not bashing on HP. They made/make the best calculators and they used to make electronic test equipment. Those were rugged (as much as test equipment can be outside Fluke), accurate and high performance. They also used to make the best laser printers you could buy ( at a reasonable cost). Moving into the commodity PC market and selling off their test equipment branch was a huge mistake. They've had some really bad leadership over the years and they seem to keep killing their best products just at the point when it could really make a positive difference for them.
They're not a computer company, they just happen make computer hardware...this month...next month may be something else.
I mean, he's always been such an adventurer type. Seems that he should have figured some way to be 'fuel engineer' or something like that for the flight.
I don't think it's 'conspiracy' what the government's doing, they're behaving like every person and corp. Simply using legal and financial tools to get what they want.
Here's my point in relation to Microsoft: That having won the case against MS, the DOJ had them 100% 'bent over the barrel' as it were. And in exchange for their continued assistance to the NSA, they were granted the 'consent decree' as a sort of 'released on probation', rather than breaking up the company at that time (or imposing other really draconian measures). As with all of the other secret FISC/DOJ agreements, just enter one for MS in relation to this case. MS would certainly have agreed to go along. Besides, monopoly is good for state control and Linux as an alternative would have looked bad to the NSA too. Method, motive, and opportunity.
Look what the facts of the case with the Quest CEO. The loss of the NSA contract (and the related mis-measure of income/profit as a result) directly created the situation he was charged with. I suspect that the government came to him looking for him to go along with the plan too. He didn't want to play ball, and when he tried to cash out and run away...they got him for insider trading. What's conspiracy about that? Method, motive, and opportunity.
Look at the ongoing investigation of Google now too. Not claiming that they're innocent, but DOJ gaining leverage with an 'ongoing investigation' of something or other is just their style. US Government wants into everyone's pants, any time they want too.
People did used to say I'm wearing a 'tin-foil' hat, but it's looking like the 'high fashion statement for 2013' these days.
Microsoft vs. DOJ was settled almost immediately after 9/11, from wikipedia "On November 2, 2001, the DOJ reached an agreement with Microsoft to settle the case". That's just enough time for the dust to settle, and for MS and the DOJ to wrangle a deal over permitting the government "backdoor access" to everything on your computer.
Why do you think the US government permitted a convicted monopolist to continue without any punishment? The US DOJ had won the case, and like Aaron Schwartz, they were attempting to squeeze everything that's important to them from the convicted parth.
Sure, they were ordered to go along with the consent decree, but that's not a real punishment, like the rest of us were expecting.
Remember those NSA keys that were found in the release of Windows that included debugging symbols?... They were there in MS Windows even BEFORE 9/11....Look it up here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSAKEY
This is really too rich for me. The government telling the Microsoft, Google and the mobile telecom providers to get their mobile privacy issues in order? Pot, meet Kettle...
I think they're realizing that if consumers feel uncomfortable with carrying a GPS tracking device in their pockets, they may stop using them. Why, consumers may just go back to pay-phones! Which would leave the feds, states and even Chief Wiggum without an unfettered way of getting location data on almost every American.
Weren't they also directed NOT to let the infringers know that they were under investigation?...And, wouldn't deleting the files (or making them inaccessible to the true infringers) do EXACTLY that?
Actually, I don't think they "de-criminalized" it. They didn't actually take any laws "off the books" here in Washington. What they did do was make it "the lowest priority" offense. For cops, this means that doughnuts are a higher priority. It's still illegal though, and they can make it a "priority" whenever they want to.
Imagine that you flip off to one of the TSA people, now they've got something to add to your charges. Just one more offense they can list at your trial, kinda like a murder suspect also get charged for "reckless discharge of a firearm" or some such. Just add more stuff to the charges wherever possible.
This is also a pretty scary concept too, because EVERYTHING is headed towards illegal, it's just up to the state to determine WHEN and/or IF they want to prosecute you.
Any sort of extra education is great, I encourage everyone to get smarter, but getting your PE stamp would do the best for your career, that's something that NO employer can disregard.
I'm not suggesting that it's "one or the other", I'm suggesting that you use any online or offline education to get a professional credential that's recognized by states or professional societies. For the ME, it's getting your PE stamp. Like a lawyer passing the bar or a doctor passing their boards, the PE is something that no employer can ignore.
At one equipment manufacturer that I worked for, only a couple of the engineers had their PE, and they were usually moved up to "senior engineer" or "vice-president of engineering" pretty quickly, the rest of us were kept down and encouraged not to get too uppity...
First, we have not specified which GPL version is applicable, or if there are specific exemptions to it. Here is the applicable section under GPLv1:
"Source code for a work means the preferred form of the work for making modifications to it. For an executable file, complete source code means all the source code for all modules it contains; but, as a special exception, it need not include source code for modules which are standard libraries that accompany the operating system on which the executable file runs, or for standard header files or definitions files that accompany that operating system."
Nothing there about build scripts or tools to build.... Let's take a look at GPLv3 (section 1):
"The “Corresponding Source” for a work in object code form means all the source code needed to generate, install, and (for an executable work) run the object code and to modify the work, including scripts to control those activities. However, it does not include the work's System Libraries, or general-purpose tools or generally available free programs which are used unmodified in performing those activities but which are not part of the work. For example, Corresponding Source includes interface definition files associated with source files for the work, and the source code for shared libraries and dynamically linked subprograms that the work is specifically designed to require, such as by intimate data communication or control flow between those subprograms and other parts of the work."
I see the section regarding build scripts, but embedded devices often do not include the ability to build on the device itself, presenting a big difference from the desktop world where you would typically config, build, install all from source. I still think that simply including the settings/defines/prerequisites would suffice. Note that the section above also specifically excludes general purpose tools. Since installation is often accomplished either through external flashing device or embedded flash utility (general purpose tool), these would be excluded.
Yeah, I've read the GPL. I'm not sure I like where things are going in v2 and v3. On the embedded devices that I work with (for instance FreeRTOS), the licenses are GPLv1 for the overall OS and tasking system. They also include a specific exemption for custom tasks/routines which doesn't require you to release unless you change the OS.
Ultimately, it boils out to defining which device, which specific license and which specific files are involved. None of that's been done, so to assume the most radicalized position here doesn't make sense.
No, I disagree. The section "However, this does not include the work's System Libraries, or general-purpose tools..."
I read this as you must include the defines that you used to build it, but not the build script or firmware loader utilities that you used to put it on the device. To point out, the GPLv3 is the strictest, GPL1 and GPL2 are not as strict.
Sorry to rain on the "GPL violation parade", but this really isn't a violation. The GPL covers the source code only, that's what the banner above the code indicates. It doesn't stretch to everything that's required to build a duplicate product. These companies are under no obligation to release their build environment, scripts, custom firmware utilities or whatever unless they contain GPL code AND they're releasing the binaries out into the public. Private build tools don't count. Doesn't matter if it makes your source useless, or you unable to build a new image. Nobody ever promised that you would be able to build some replacement code and drop it into the device. Indeed, there are reasons where companies may NOT want you do to that (think product liability), even if they do release the source code that they originally built from.
I'm a great supporter of GPL, but folks here are trying to stretch the GPL into something it's not. If what you propose is true, I should be releasing the source and binaries to Notepad because I used it edit some of my files. I would also be required to release my build scripts even if they're owned by another company, and the firmware loader that I used to load up the image into the device.
Perhaps if you worked with the companies in question without crying wolf over some GPL violation that isn't, they may actually help you more. Here's a suggestion: offer to build them a new script based on public tools...And I mean really "go the distance" with them, using something public like Ant. Help them work through the rough edges and show them that you can provide a "win-win" situation where they can actually trust you. They may not bite, but then again, they may... And you've helped show good faith rather than calling in the lawyers.
I agree with the poster that the economics of attacks is definitely in favor of the Trojan vs. the technical attack. It's scary how many people install junk on their computers, and it's not getting any better. Even I do it sometimes without knowing 100% who's behind some utility or patch that I want. This is the approach that pays off easy too. Why bother trying to sneek into their box when the user's will install your bug for you?
In nature though, some of these parasites actually evolve into beneficial bugs. The take their little bit, but they also do some extra bit for the host. Both sides win, this is symbiosis. Imagine that the SETI@home also defragmented your disks or optimized performance some how in exchange for running on your system, same thing.
Now consider for a second that Conficker patched some security holes after entering the host system....Isn't it doing some little bit of good? Not wanting it on my box, just showing how Conficker's security is also beneficial to the host machine. Their goals align... Consider also, how does Google's goals align with mine when I use online Docs?
I think there will be a real blending here. Trojans will get more beneficial and less intrusive, people will tolerate them because they do something useful, and a new class of free (as in beer) software will evolve.
Lets keep the alarmist talk down to a minimum here. As a few people have pointed out, the auto industry response will simply be to DRM you out of your own car. I'd expect that the government would want a part of the action, so expect a DMCA for autos too... They'll push you right into the loving arms of the factory service shops who will now be the only "authorized" repair option.
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Pretty entertaining and feels like the physics is wrong for a 'collision' with a moving vehicle. The Promobot doesn't even start to fall until the car is almost past it. Seems like both Tesla and Promobot would exhibit some synchronized impulse, with the bot violently being pushed away instead of gently tipping over after the Tesla is half way past. My verdict: 100% fake.
As the main cheerleader for US waterboarding, I've wondered how a motivated individual might subject him (Cheney) to a similarly terrifying and helplessness inducing experience.
Tweaking his pacemaker up & down through it's full range of speeds...with occasional stops & restarts might just do the trick! Just imagine how exciting it would be to discover your heart racing at 180 BPM for no apparent reason...then dropping off to an almost unconsious 20 BPM...now back up to 180 for a bit... Perhaps almost as terrifying as the repeated sensation of drowning.
Break down story paragraphs like so:
WebOS was a really cool OS, that had lots of neat features and ran JavaScript apps.
WebOS was built on Linux, and if you're knowledgeable, you can update it.
WebOS had a feature that permitted the user to switch apps by swiping up from the bottom of the screen to see the backgrounded apps. (Note: Android already has a similar feature, accessed by the square icon at screen bottom)
Apple is going to do something similar, so they must be copying from WebOS, and that validates how advanced WebOS was.
If Apple were going to start supporting js apps, you might have a case, otherwise not... There are only 4 sides to the screen too, top is notifications, sides for switching desktop screens, so that only leaves the bottom...which they picked... Coincidence?
I expect this is really a plea for lobbying cash by whoever the supposed Dems are, just in time for the 2018 election season
Just stating the obvious, but having control of the DNS servers is really helpful for surveillance.
While you might not know the details of the conversation, you would know who is looking for what. Like directory assistance, knowing which people are calling (or looking for) say John Gotti is a really big intelligence advantage. Being able to route that call through one of your network taps gives you the rest of the advantage of interception then. Having some US Corporation in control means automatic '3rd party rule' for all of that data. I think that the rest of the world just figured that gig out.
Glad to see it out of our hands, perhaps this is the 'start of the end' with respect to US hegemony over the world's private conversations.
Now your just making excuses for sloppy work. As a mobile app developer myself, I check ( at least once ) any library/framework that goes into a delivery. I don't bother with the OS, as I assume Google/Apple have that covered. There, that wasn't so hard....
From the supposed CTO...."Trying to figure out what is in a binary is what security researchers do, not app developers, Graves said. After scratching their heads, they guessed that the problem was probably in a third-party framework.". Sorry, you're wrong, that's exactly what app developers are supposed to do.
This should prob. have been an interstitial ad instead of a story!
What exactly is going on? Is it a problem with the installed certificates? Weakness in the tools? Which ones are effective and which are weak? How can I determine if my Android has this crapware installed?
How did the moderators decide to let this story through?
The links provide nothing more than a security scanner! There are no specifics other than 'Google is working with OEMs...'. So what? How about providing some information I can use....not ads that are designed to look like news stories.
I've had a similar problem, which simply turned out to be the wall-warts giving up. Replaced them and all is working fine. I think the hardware in the WRT54G is pretty robust, sample size == 3.
Anonymity? In this age of spying on everyone, perhaps a verified name or phone number is a liability.
HP doesn't have the tradition of a "Computer Company". They make computer hardware, but that doesn't put them in the same league as Apple, IBM, Microsoft, Intel and Oracle. Same goes for Dell and Lenovo.
Full disclosure, I've purchased 2 HP laptops in the last two years, so I'm not bashing on HP. They made/make the best calculators and they used to make electronic test equipment. Those were rugged (as much as test equipment can be outside Fluke), accurate and high performance. They also used to make the best laser printers you could buy ( at a reasonable cost). Moving into the commodity PC market and selling off their test equipment branch was a huge mistake. They've had some really bad leadership over the years and they seem to keep killing their best products just at the point when it could really make a positive difference for them.
They're not a computer company, they just happen make computer hardware...this month...next month may be something else.
I mean, he's always been such an adventurer type. Seems that he should have figured some way to be 'fuel engineer' or something like that for the flight.
I don't think it's 'conspiracy' what the government's doing, they're behaving like every person and corp. Simply using legal and financial tools to get what they want.
1) Telecoms granted immunity.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/oct/10/supreme-court-telecoms-win-immunity
2) Quest CEO claims retaliation by NSA for refusal (old)
http://dailycaller.com/2013/06/13/jailed-qwest-ceo-claimed-that-nsa-retaliated-because-he-wouldnt-participate-in-spy-program/
Here's my point in relation to Microsoft: That having won the case against MS, the DOJ had them 100% 'bent over the barrel' as it were. And in exchange for their continued assistance to the NSA, they were granted the 'consent decree' as a sort of 'released on probation', rather than breaking up the company at that time (or imposing other really draconian measures). As with all of the other secret FISC/DOJ agreements, just enter one for MS in relation to this case. MS would certainly have agreed to go along. Besides, monopoly is good for state control and Linux as an alternative would have looked bad to the NSA too. Method, motive, and opportunity.
Look what the facts of the case with the Quest CEO. The loss of the NSA contract (and the related mis-measure of income/profit as a result) directly created the situation he was charged with. I suspect that the government came to him looking for him to go along with the plan too. He didn't want to play ball, and when he tried to cash out and run away...they got him for insider trading. What's conspiracy about that? Method, motive, and opportunity.
Look at the ongoing investigation of Google now too. Not claiming that they're innocent, but DOJ gaining leverage with an 'ongoing investigation' of something or other is just their style. US Government wants into everyone's pants, any time they want too.
People did used to say I'm wearing a 'tin-foil' hat, but it's looking like the 'high fashion statement for 2013' these days.
Haven't you people been paying attention?
Microsoft vs. DOJ was settled almost immediately after 9/11, from wikipedia "On November 2, 2001, the DOJ reached an agreement with Microsoft to settle the case". That's just enough time for the dust to settle, and for MS and the DOJ to wrangle a deal over permitting the government "backdoor access" to everything on your computer.
Why do you think the US government permitted a convicted monopolist to continue without any punishment?
The US DOJ had won the case, and like Aaron Schwartz, they were attempting to squeeze everything that's important to them from the convicted parth.
Sure, they were ordered to go along with the consent decree, but that's not a real punishment, like the rest of us were expecting.
Remember those NSA keys that were found in the release of Windows that included debugging symbols?...
They were there in MS Windows even BEFORE 9/11....Look it up here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSAKEY
Don't you people pay attention?
This is really too rich for me. The government telling the Microsoft, Google and the mobile telecom providers to get their mobile privacy issues in order?
Pot, meet Kettle...
I think they're realizing that if consumers feel uncomfortable with carrying a GPS tracking device in their pockets, they may stop using them.
Why, consumers may just go back to pay-phones! Which would leave the feds, states and even Chief Wiggum without an unfettered way of getting location data on almost every American.
Too rich, you just can't make this stuff up.
Weren't they also directed NOT to let the infringers know that they were under investigation? ...And, wouldn't deleting the files (or making them inaccessible to the true infringers) do EXACTLY that?
Actually, I don't think they "de-criminalized" it. They didn't actually take any laws "off the books" here in Washington.
What they did do was make it "the lowest priority" offense. For cops, this means that doughnuts are a higher priority. It's still illegal though, and they can make it a "priority" whenever they want to.
Imagine that you flip off to one of the TSA people, now they've got something to add to your charges. Just one more offense they can list at your trial, kinda like a murder suspect also get charged for "reckless discharge of a firearm" or some such. Just add more stuff to the charges wherever possible.
This is also a pretty scary concept too, because EVERYTHING is headed towards illegal, it's just up to the state to determine WHEN and/or IF they want to prosecute you.
Any sort of extra education is great, I encourage everyone to get smarter, but getting your PE stamp would do the best for your career, that's something that NO employer can disregard.
I'm not suggesting that it's "one or the other", I'm suggesting that you use any online or offline education to get a professional credential that's recognized by states or professional societies. For the ME, it's getting your PE stamp. Like a lawyer passing the bar or a doctor passing their boards, the PE is something that no employer can ignore.
At one equipment manufacturer that I worked for, only a couple of the engineers had their PE, and they were usually moved up to "senior engineer" or "vice-president of engineering" pretty quickly, the rest of us were kept down and encouraged not to get too uppity...
Agreed,
I think this is just a demonstration of what the proposed "Internet-Kill-Switch" would be operated like. Information getting out of hand? Turn it off.
From the wikipedia article, there are three Americans that were held at Guantanamo...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_detainees_at_Guantanamo_Bay
First, we have not specified which GPL version is applicable, or if there are specific exemptions to it. Here is the applicable section under GPLv1:
"Source code for a work means the preferred form of the work for making
modifications to it. For an executable file, complete source code means
all the source code for all modules it contains; but, as a special
exception, it need not include source code for modules which are standard
libraries that accompany the operating system on which the executable
file runs, or for standard header files or definitions files that
accompany that operating system."
Nothing there about build scripts or tools to build.... Let's take a look at GPLv3 (section 1):
"The “Corresponding Source” for a work in object code form means all the source code needed to generate, install, and (for an executable work) run the object code and to modify the work, including scripts to control those activities. However, it does not include the work's System Libraries, or general-purpose tools or generally available free programs which are used unmodified in performing those activities but which are not part of the work. For example, Corresponding Source includes interface definition files associated with source files for the work, and the source code for shared libraries and dynamically linked subprograms that the work is specifically designed to require, such as by intimate data communication or control flow between those subprograms and other parts of the work."
I see the section regarding build scripts, but embedded devices often do not include the ability to build on the device itself, presenting a big difference from the desktop world where you would typically config, build, install all from source. I still think that simply including the settings/defines/prerequisites would suffice. Note that the section above also specifically excludes general purpose tools. Since installation is often accomplished either through external flashing device or embedded flash utility (general purpose tool), these would be excluded.
Yeah, I've read the GPL. I'm not sure I like where things are going in v2 and v3. On the embedded devices that I work with (for instance FreeRTOS), the licenses are GPLv1 for the overall OS and tasking system. They also include a specific exemption for custom tasks/routines which doesn't require you to release unless you change the OS.
Ultimately, it boils out to defining which device, which specific license and which specific files are involved. None of that's been done, so to assume the most radicalized position here doesn't make sense.
No, I disagree. The section "However, this does not include the work's System Libraries, or general-purpose tools..."
I read this as you must include the defines that you used to build it, but not the build script or firmware loader utilities that you used to put it on the device. To point out, the GPLv3 is the strictest, GPL1 and GPL2 are not as strict.
Not a violation here.
Sorry to rain on the "GPL violation parade", but this really isn't a violation. The GPL covers the source code only, that's what the banner above the code indicates. It doesn't stretch to everything that's required to build a duplicate product. These companies are under no obligation to release their build environment, scripts, custom firmware utilities or whatever unless they contain GPL code AND they're releasing the binaries out into the public. Private build tools don't count. Doesn't matter if it makes your source useless, or you unable to build a new image. Nobody ever promised that you would be able to build some replacement code and drop it into the device. Indeed, there are reasons where companies may NOT want you do to that (think product liability), even if they do release the source code that they originally built from.
I'm a great supporter of GPL, but folks here are trying to stretch the GPL into something it's not. If what you propose is true, I should be releasing the source and binaries to Notepad because I used it edit some of my files. I would also be required to release my build scripts even if they're owned by another company, and the firmware loader that I used to load up the image into the device.
Perhaps if you worked with the companies in question without crying wolf over some GPL violation that isn't, they may actually help you more. Here's a suggestion: offer to build them a new script based on public tools...And I mean really "go the distance" with them, using something public like Ant. Help them work through the rough edges and show them that you can provide a "win-win" situation where they can actually trust you. They may not bite, but then again, they may... And you've helped show good faith rather than calling in the lawyers.
I agree with the poster that the economics of attacks is definitely in favor of the Trojan vs. the technical attack. It's scary how many people install junk on their computers, and it's not getting any better. Even I do it sometimes without knowing 100% who's behind some utility or patch that I want. This is the approach that pays off easy too. Why bother trying to sneek into their box when the user's will install your bug for you?
In nature though, some of these parasites actually evolve into beneficial bugs. The take their little bit, but they also do some extra bit for the host. Both sides win, this is symbiosis. Imagine that the SETI@home also defragmented your disks or optimized performance some how in exchange for running on your system, same thing.
Now consider for a second that Conficker patched some security holes after entering the host system....Isn't it doing some little bit of good? Not wanting it on my box, just showing how Conficker's security is also beneficial to the host machine. Their goals align... Consider also, how does Google's goals align with mine when I use online Docs?
I think there will be a real blending here. Trojans will get more beneficial and less intrusive, people will tolerate them because they do something useful, and a new class of free (as in beer) software will evolve.
Lets keep the alarmist talk down to a minimum here. As a few people have pointed out, the auto industry response will simply be to DRM you out of your own car. I'd expect that the government would want a part of the action, so expect a DMCA for autos too... They'll push you right into the loving arms of the factory service shops who will now be the only "authorized" repair option.