cansecofan22: How many AOL members would switch to the AOL/Linux?
Thankfully, I believe very few AOL members would switch to Linux -- at least not permanently.
What I really cannot comprehend is why you seem to think that more clueless Linux newbie/wannabees flooding usenet, mailing lists, and IRC is a good thing.
cansecofan22: Just a thought passing through my head
It's passing is the good thing:-)
BTW, there shall be "AOL for Linux" -- it is inevitable. As a matter of fact, Slashdot recently had an article on that very thing. See "AOL For Linux Leaks Out"
The subject says it all.
Excellent documentation is available at the Linux Documentation Project, including the Installation and Getting Started Guide which has an excellent tutorial. One of the authors of the GSG is the author of one of the most recommended Linux books on the market.
So, stop whining. There is an old proverb, "it is better to light a candle than curse the darkness. If you see a need fill it, if you find something lacking make it better. That's what it's all about.
If you can't handle it go back to Windows(tm) or whatever platform you came from... Linux is not that hard to learn, especially if you are somewhat computer literate as the original questioner claimed.
ChadN asks, " Let's say that the quasar was moving at 10% light speed (from our point of view). The light was emitted 13 billion years ago, so the object is now another 1.3 billion light years away than we see it. Okay fine. But wouldn't that mean that it should have taken 130 billion years for the light to have gotten 13 billion light years away? "
That's a thought provoking question. Perhaps the calculation takes into account the distance the object has traveled since it emitted the energy. If so, the quasar is currently 13 billion light years distant.
EJB posted, "The distance between two objects in the universe can grow at a speed faster than light. That's because they're not really moving; it's the universe that is expanding."
What the article at the URL you posted describes is apparent motion as measured by an observer from a third frame of reference. See the paragraph with the heading of "The moon revolves round my head faster than light!"
We are measuring the distance between us and a very distant quasar so the case of special relativity you mention actually does not apply.
'Isn't "The Known Universe" just everything we have discovered "At This Time"?'
The "known" universe is also a vague term.
Calculating that the light from an object has traveled for 13 billion years does not mean that we now "know" the universe within that span of 13 billion light years. We just know that, based on our current model of cosmology, the universe apparently has a span of at least 13 billion light years in that direction.
See what I mean?
It is more accurate to report that it is "the most distant object yet discovered".
ChadN asked, [...]"if the light *started* towards us 13 billion years ago, and the emitter is almost as old as the universe, then isn't that object now about 26 billion light years away?"
This assumes that the object is moving at light speed. I am not sure how fast it is moving, but I am fairly certain it is not moving away from us at the velocity of light.;-)
Even at the (corrected) 13 Billion light years distance it is misleading to call this "the most distant object in the known universe"... it is the most distant object we have discovered at this time.
DNA testing results do not prove guilt or innocence. The tests *may* be accurate, however, "matching" DNA patterns only show that the DNA specimen is consistent with the DNA of a suspect. Even if current DNA tests were 100% accurate they still could only place a suspect at a crime scene. This, by itself, only suggests the possibility of guilt. I *hope* that nobody has ever been convicted of a crime soley on DNA evidence.
Kasparov is the top rated player among millions of rated chess players. The average chess player has a better chance of winning the lottery than beating Kasparov.
It is ridiculous to assume that a concensus, which pretty much amounts to an average, will pose any sort of challenge to him.
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Thankfully, I believe very few AOL members would switch to Linux -- at least not permanently.
What I really cannot comprehend is why you seem to think that more clueless Linux newbie/wannabees flooding usenet, mailing lists, and IRC is a good thing.
cansecofan22: Just a thought passing through my head
It's passing is the good thing :-)
BTW, there shall be "AOL for Linux" -- it is inevitable. As a matter of fact, Slashdot recently had an article on that very thing. See "AOL For Linux Leaks Out"
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So, stop whining. There is an old proverb, "it is better to light a candle than curse the darkness. If you see a need fill it, if you find something lacking make it better. That's what it's all about.
If you can't handle it go back to Windows(tm) or whatever platform you came from... Linux is not that hard to learn, especially if you are somewhat computer literate as the original questioner claimed.
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That's a thought provoking question. Perhaps the calculation takes into account the distance the object has traveled since it emitted the energy. If so, the quasar is currently 13 billion light years distant.
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What the article at the URL you posted describes is apparent motion as measured by an observer from a third frame of reference. See the paragraph with the heading of "The moon revolves round my head faster than light!"
We are measuring the distance between us and a very distant quasar so the case of special relativity you mention actually does not apply.
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The "known" universe is also a vague term.
Calculating that the light from an object has traveled for 13 billion years does not mean that we now "know" the universe within that span of 13 billion light years. We just know that, based on our current model of cosmology, the universe apparently has a span of at least 13 billion light years in that direction.
See what I mean?
It is more accurate to report that it is "the most distant object yet discovered".
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This assumes that the object is moving at light speed. I am not sure how fast it is moving, but I am fairly certain it is not moving away from us at the velocity of light.
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Good point. Hadn't thought of it from that angle. Of course, no one can say where the unknown universe is hiding.
dTinkrer
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Have you ever seen a gruntled employee?!
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It is a remarkable find, though.
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It's your choice, BigEd. Either way your wallet becomes lighter.
At least with the lottery you could use the social improvement rationalization to feel better about parting with the money.
Kasparov is the top rated player among millions of rated chess players. The average chess player has a better chance of winning the lottery than beating Kasparov.
It is ridiculous to assume that a concensus, which pretty much amounts to an average, will pose any sort of challenge to him.