"When it became apparent that contract renewal information was being passed on to third parties without our knowledge, we alerted the Information Commissioner's Office.
It seems to me that T-Mobile did the right thing, and contacted the authorities once they figured out what was going on. You want to punish them for that?
That's flawed reasoning. They should be pushed for abusing their customers and breaking the law, saying sorry later doesn't cancel out their deliberate actions.
I'm a T-Mobile Customer. I think they did the right thing, coming forward when it was obvious they had a data breach.
Data breach? That was a few months ago when they lost their entire customer database along with credit card numbers. This time they sold their data.
T-Mobile are the worst phone network going. Their coverage sucks, their customer service sucks, they are willing to abuse their own customers to make a few quid. The only thing going for them is the price.
That one had countless problems and has long been abandoned as a source of electrical power. At best it will teach people how not to build a fast breeder reactor.
Seriously, that's the difference between a hacker and a software engineer right there. If you don't take the time to fix it early, you'll just have to fix it later.
The Microsoft approach is to collect the money and get their customers to agree that everything that goes wrong is their fault. It's at least as good protection for them as writing decent code and many times cheaper.
AMD processors are still beating Intel in the performance/cost ratio.
Only if you ignore Intel processors which cost more than $200, right?
That doesn't seem right. The best performance per dollar isn't processors that cost over $200 each. The best performance per dollar is normally one or two models back from the bleeding edge which is currently CPUs like the Phenom II X4 955 for 175 dollars retail.
goddammit the woman is a politician - her issue is really about defamation & political reputation. - The trouble started when son defended his mom against some criticisms by hipcheck16. This is bad news for people who like to indulge in random uncensored political commentary. And as for us regular slobs who have no reputation to damage - we have to cop the crap without recourse to suing or whatever.
So to sum it up this woman is a professional liar who is pretending that some anonymous stranger implying her son is homosexual is a big issue.
The only thing that is 'deeply disturbing' is this woman's attitude and the fact that she doesn't have anything better to do.
"Britons are among the ugliest people in the world, according to a controversial website that only allows 'beautiful' people to join.
Fewer than one in eight British men and just three in 20 women who have applied to BeautifulPeople.com have been accepted, reports the Daily Telegraph."
Speaking as someone who spent a large number of years in the UK that's pretty funny. That will teach the ba***rds to ridicule American plugs not long ago.
Right. And who exactly gives a shit about your opinion? Your mom?
The people who's computers and networks I look after and the people that pay for those computers and networks.
Microsoft don't pay for the virus scanners, antivirus software, or the extra bandwidth I need to deal with the results of their bad coding. They have never given me a problem I can't fix or work around but that doesn't mean that cleaning up their sloppy messes is cheap in money or in time I could be using to do something productive.
I don't think it's correct to call everyone who point out Microsoft's lack of code quality as a 'F/OSS Cheerleader'. Many of us were using commercial UNIX long before Linux was accepted in companies and OS/390 or VMS long before that.
But thinking about all that is hard. It's easier to just say Microsoft sucks, isn't it?
Microsoft does suck. They suck at IT. The fact they make a lot of money isn't proof they don't suck at IT.
No doubt they have salespeople that could sell sand to Arabs and snow to Eskimos, and a legal department that could get them off of blowing up UN headquarters with only a small fine. None of that is proof that their software is anything but a pretty GUI with dodgy fluff behind it sold to people who don't have enough knowledge to make an informed choice.
The problems are partly political and partly due to a lack of education and experience in people that really should know better. I guess you could count the last point as political too.
In this case, it's Microsoft getting screwed by Microsoft. They are on the verge of paying, or have already paid, $2000 out-of-pocket to a guy who did a simple GET.
They can't even validate user input where failing to do so directly costs them cash. They are not hiding behind some get out of everything license agreement and they still can't do the basics.
A marketing company which subcontracts out its marketing and makes billions from software sales. That's a pretty weird marketing company.
Agreed they are pretty weird. They don't sell software though, they sell the dream of software that 'just works' to people that for the most part don't believe there is an alternative to bug ridden and low quality code.
It seems like people have still not learned to never trust anything from the user.
It's not people, it's Microsoft. Everyone else at least knows they should validate all user input.
Microsoft should hire Theo de Raadt as a security consultant. He will no doubt walk out within a week but the Microsoft staffers who get the honor of being yelled at will get a security education like no other.
Use Microsoft software and you get screwed. They don't design software they design the user interface and botch the software. They are now as always a marketing not an IT company. It's always been that way, it will always be that way.
Verizon charges "corporate" customers an extra $15/mo to access "corporate" (aka Exchange) email. This is true with all of their smartphones and is similar in pricing to what ATT & Sprint charge. Personal accounts can access Exchange w/o any additional charges.
Maybe because they know that anyone who uses exchange for email is 1) a big company and 2) doesn't care about money.
couldn't some group of americans sue the shit out of dumbass companies who use misleading marketing - calling something with a cap "unlimited" should result in their whole marketing department fired and any manager who approved it receiving hefty financial fine.
What if a customer agrees to pay the bill subject to a 5 dollar a month fair billing policy?
While I generally agree with your comments, I'd suggest a re-examination of the modern lifestyle would be in order.
The idea that to maintain good health (and a healthy weight), the only options are a gym membership, "expensive equipment" or "equipment" is absurd.
Then again, so is the way many of us live.
I do totally agree with you but I work at a desk job, and that means being trapped in an unhealthy and unnatural lifestyle for a great part of my life.
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It seems to me that T-Mobile did the right thing, and contacted the authorities once they figured out what was going on. You want to punish them for that?
That's flawed reasoning. They should be pushed for abusing their customers and breaking the law, saying sorry later doesn't cancel out their deliberate actions.
I'm a T-Mobile Customer. I think they did the right thing, coming forward when it was obvious they had a data breach.
Data breach? That was a few months ago when they lost their entire customer database along with credit card numbers. This time they sold their data.
T-Mobile are the worst phone network going. Their coverage sucks, their customer service sucks, they are willing to abuse their own customers to make a few quid. The only thing going for them is the price.
Expecting anyone to bring a commercial FBR online before 2013 is ludicrous.
The French have a massive one sitting unused.
That one had countless problems and has long been abandoned as a source of electrical power. At best it will teach people how not to build a fast breeder reactor.
Seriously, that's the difference between a hacker and a software engineer right there. If you don't take the time to fix it early, you'll just have to fix it later.
The Microsoft approach is to collect the money and get their customers to agree that everything that goes wrong is their fault. It's at least as good protection for them as writing decent code and many times cheaper.
AMD processors are still beating Intel in the performance/cost ratio.
Only if you ignore Intel processors which cost more than $200, right?
That doesn't seem right. The best performance per dollar isn't processors that cost over $200 each. The best performance per dollar is normally one or two models back from the bleeding edge which is currently CPUs like the Phenom II X4 955 for 175 dollars retail.
That will teach Intel to try and copy Microsoft's business model.
Screw you Intel! I'm always preferred paying less and getting more and that's why I always buy AMD.
goddammit the woman is a politician - her issue is really about defamation & political reputation. - The trouble started when son defended his mom against some criticisms by hipcheck16. This is bad news for people who like to indulge in random uncensored political commentary. And as for us regular slobs who have no reputation to damage - we have to cop the crap without recourse to suing or whatever.
So to sum it up this woman is a professional liar who is pretending that some anonymous stranger implying her son is homosexual is a big issue.
The only thing that is 'deeply disturbing' is this woman's attitude and the fact that she doesn't have anything better to do.
Here's some hot news for the rest of the world.
"Britons are among the ugliest people in the world, according to a controversial website that only allows 'beautiful' people to join.
Fewer than one in eight British men and just three in 20 women who have applied to BeautifulPeople.com have been accepted, reports the Daily Telegraph."
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_3557668.html?menu=
Speaking as someone who spent a large number of years in the UK that's pretty funny. That will teach the ba***rds to ridicule American plugs not long ago.
Why don't you get a real job?
Why don't you get a job robbing little old ladies? It seems you already have the attitude for it.
You are responsible for your own learning. And if you are good, you might have understood this already before you leave school.
That's the most insightful thing I've seen this week.
Microsoft software is good but their software isn't a dream, strictly speaking..
Microsoft software is good for pay-for-reinstall PC shops and 'botnet hurders. It's a nightmare for everyone else.
Right. And who exactly gives a shit about your opinion? Your mom?
The people who's computers and networks I look after and the people that pay for those computers and networks.
Microsoft don't pay for the virus scanners, antivirus software, or the extra bandwidth I need to deal with the results of their bad coding. They have never given me a problem I can't fix or work around but that doesn't mean that cleaning up their sloppy messes is cheap in money or in time I could be using to do something productive.
I don't think it's correct to call everyone who point out Microsoft's lack of code quality as a 'F/OSS Cheerleader'. Many of us were using commercial UNIX long before Linux was accepted in companies and OS/390 or VMS long before that.
But thinking about all that is hard. It's easier to just say Microsoft sucks, isn't it?
Microsoft does suck. They suck at IT. The fact they make a lot of money isn't proof they don't suck at IT.
No doubt they have salespeople that could sell sand to Arabs and snow to Eskimos, and a legal department that could get them off of blowing up UN headquarters with only a small fine. None of that is proof that their software is anything but a pretty GUI with dodgy fluff behind it sold to people who don't have enough knowledge to make an informed choice.
The problems are partly political and partly due to a lack of education and experience in people that really should know better. I guess you could count the last point as political too.
In this case, it's Microsoft getting screwed by Microsoft. They are on the verge of paying, or have already paid, $2000 out-of-pocket to a guy who did a simple GET.
They can't even validate user input where failing to do so directly costs them cash. They are not hiding behind some get out of everything license agreement and they still can't do the basics.
A marketing company which subcontracts out its marketing and makes billions from software sales. That's a pretty weird marketing company.
Agreed they are pretty weird. They don't sell software though, they sell the dream of software that 'just works' to people that for the most part don't believe there is an alternative to bug ridden and low quality code.
It seems like people have still not learned to never trust anything from the user.
It's not people, it's Microsoft. Everyone else at least knows they should validate all user input.
Microsoft should hire Theo de Raadt as a security consultant. He will no doubt walk out within a week but the Microsoft staffers who get the honor of being yelled at will get a security education like no other.
After about 30 years is this still news?
Use Microsoft software and you get screwed. They don't design software they design the user interface and botch the software. They are now as always a marketing not an IT company. It's always been that way, it will always be that way.
...activesync...
A proprietary protocol from a company that doesn't do interoperability. That can't be a good idea regardless of how many other problems it solves.
Verizon charges "corporate" customers an extra $15/mo to access "corporate" (aka Exchange) email. This is true with all of their smartphones and is similar in pricing to what ATT & Sprint charge. Personal accounts can access Exchange w/o any additional charges.
Maybe because they know that anyone who uses exchange for email is 1) a big company and 2) doesn't care about money.
It seems like there would be some agency to complain to when a company advertises something that isn't true...
I know of the advertising standards agency in the UK. What's the US equivalent?
There is a US equivalent isn't there?
couldn't some group of americans sue the shit out of dumbass companies who use misleading marketing - calling something with a cap "unlimited" should result in their whole marketing department fired and any manager who approved it receiving hefty financial fine.
What if a customer agrees to pay the bill subject to a 5 dollar a month fair billing policy?
Turnabout is fair play.
While I generally agree with your comments, I'd suggest a re-examination of the modern lifestyle would be in order.
The idea that to maintain good health (and a healthy weight), the only options are a gym membership, "expensive equipment" or "equipment" is absurd.
Then again, so is the way many of us live.
I do totally agree with you but I work at a desk job, and that means being trapped in an unhealthy and unnatural lifestyle for a great part of my life.
Don't bait the U.S. American persons. You know they don't believe anything actually exists outside their borders.
What do you call people from the U.S.?
Depends if they have guns with them or not.
Sorry could not resist.
Probably impossible.
As we all should know by now, impenetrable security doesn't exist.
Maybe not. But a good first step would be to not connect critical infrastructure to the internet.