Yeah, a mistake. I mean, MS makes these mistakes all the time, but that doesn't mean it isn't a mistake this time. It just means they have crappy quality control. Or, it really wasn't a mistake and they knew what they were doing.
It looks as though Security Space visits a fraction of the number that netcraft does. If you look at this quote from Security Space:
What sites do you visit?
We visit what we consider well-known sites. In our case, we define a well-known site as a site that had a link to it from at least one other site that we consider well-known. So, if we are visiting you, it means we know about you through a link from another site.
If a site stops responding to our request for 3 consecutive months, we automatically remove it from the survey. In this fashion, our list of known servers remains up to date.
Because of this technique, we find that we actually only visit about 10% of the web sites out on the web. This is because approximately 90% of all web sites are "fringe" sites, such as domain squatters, personal web sites, etc., that are considered unimportant by the rest of the web community (because no-one considers them important enough to link to.)
It is possible IIS is really upping their market share using domain squatters and personal web pages. I would see Security Space as having a better methodology, as the web sites that are really important on the internet are more interesting than just random numbers. That is just my opinion though, both seem to show interesting information. I seem to remember one of the big web hosting companies(GoDaddy?) switching to having all unused domains and the default(mostly static) new sites hosted on IIS. That made a big hit in the Netcraft report, but honestly, is just kind of silly numbers games. I imagine they got some money to do it from Microsoft. I wonder if every single Livejournal account gets a domain. That would be a fairly large number of domains, that are in essence meaningless.
Are you giving your code back to the community? Perhaps, you should consider the idea that real men don't use other people's work to get themselves rich without giving anything back.
Linux is the fastest growing unix-ish operating system out there. If that operating system was BSD, a company, such as Microsoft, could just take all the code, write a better version, and begin selling it. They could just easily corner that market as well. The GPL is important, because it doesn't allow that. You want to use someone else's code without allowing them to see how you used it. You want something for free. There are sources for that, but a large amount of freely available code is licensed such that you can not just gain from the arrangement, but also have to give back. If you want to use someone else's piece of code, why not just contact the developers and offer to pay money for the code you need under a different license? You will have to give what it is worth. If you just want some code for free, well tough. There is no reason they should help you make money off their hard work.
I cancelled with Verizon as well. I chose T-Mobile. There aren't many others left. Cingular/AT&T definitely like helping the government out. I don't know about Sprint.
Saying you are going to cancel is nice, but I believe we have actually known about this for 10 months. So, when you signed up, you knew that they were going to be handing over all calling data. Either you knew, or you were ignorant of the news about the company you were signing up with. My guess is you aren't too serious about it. Sorry to point you out, but a lot of people have said this. Verizon would change it's actions if there were actually a huge backlash.
I was a Verizon customer, and I actually did cancel after this information came out. My contract ended 6 months ago, and I immediately cancelled. I also placed a call to their customer retention people and told them why I was cancelling. Not that it mattered. Most people don't care. Luckily, I believe it is actually illegal based on their own contract and current telecommunications laws. This latest arguement is quaint, but I do not believe it will work.
A) What is NBS?
B) In the last 3 years, I imagine it was a lot of work to not report on things that made Republicans look bad. Fox has generally done a good job of not "intentionallity looking for stories that make the GOP look badly" or more correctly, they have avoided those stories even when they fell in their lap. They also specifically looked for stories to make the Democratic Party look bad. Memo about trying to find evidence that someone in the middle east was happy Democrats won the midterms?
C) What Propaganda? None of those stations news broadcasts are at all left. A lot of the broadcasts project from the view that Republicans are generally right. The pundits are different. Olbermann is particularly hard on Bush and company, though I am not sure that makes him Liberal as much as honest and observant.
Linux does have that now. Do you think IBM, Novell/Suse, and Redhat are just sitting around? IBM has gotten a bunch of big installations of Linux done. Novell/Suse just got McDonald's to test changing over it's POS's. Microsoft is not the only one doing this anymore.
Is there really any chance of them going to jail? I know someone could argue they are doing illegal things, but I don't really see the government caring one way or another.
SCO is still distributing gpl'd works. SCO has now declared it doesn't accept the gpl. Doesn't this mean they are violating copyright law and are now open to being sued by anyone who has code inside of Linux? To distribute Linux you must accept the gpl. To not accept the gpl and distribute Linux would be a copyright violation.
Does the fact that SCO's attorney declared that the gpl is invalid make it SCO's opinion as well?
It seems to me that SCO's actions must be making it more difficult for IBM to sell Linux to their enterprise customers. They are very quiet. When will IBM stand up and silence SCO? It would seem that they could do something similar to what the group did in Germany. They have copyrights from their contributions. They have the money and the legal department. I wish someone would stand up and shut them up. If not IBM, then FSF or Linus. SCO shouldn't be allowed to profit from the work of all the Linux developers.
This seems like it violates the gpl. Can someone that has authored code within the linux kernel please sue SCO and shut them up. This has gone on long enough. They can not license gpl'd code to other people, because that breaks the license, otherwise making them violaters of a copyright and piraters. SCO has talked and talked, again and again, but has never shown any evidence. After this news release, which is obviously made to heighten their stock value, someone should follow through and shut them up as was done in germany.
I have been talking about sending in email for a long time. I kept thinking about it, but I didn't send it till Monday night.
Microsoft is probably paying people to send email in support of them. We need to stand up and fight back. When Lawrence Lessig was interviewed he said that the people on slashdot are politically apathetic. This has to change. This is not that hard to do, now is the time to tell your feelings to the judge or whoever reads those comments. It is just one email. We can't just stay on the side making comments about how much Microsoft sucks. If we do that, and don't participate then we are helping M$. Even if it doesn't change the ruling, it will change what is in the public record. If there are 10,000 times the number of bad as good in that record, then no matter what ruling is made, M$ has had a loss. You have to compete against hundreds of dead emailers, but lets at least try to compete.
If you roll your eyes at this and say, whatever, then you have just decided not to stand up to M$. M$ will be proud of you for taking their side, by opting out.
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Yeah, a mistake. I mean, MS makes these mistakes all the time, but that doesn't mean it isn't a mistake this time. It just means they have crappy quality control. Or, it really wasn't a mistake and they knew what they were doing.
It is possible IIS is really upping their market share using domain squatters and personal web pages. I would see Security Space as having a better methodology, as the web sites that are really important on the internet are more interesting than just random numbers. That is just my opinion though, both seem to show interesting information. I seem to remember one of the big web hosting companies(GoDaddy?) switching to having all unused domains and the default(mostly static) new sites hosted on IIS. That made a big hit in the Netcraft report, but honestly, is just kind of silly numbers games. I imagine they got some money to do it from Microsoft. I wonder if every single Livejournal account gets a domain. That would be a fairly large number of domains, that are in essence meaningless.
Are you giving your code back to the community? Perhaps, you should consider the idea that real men don't use other people's work to get themselves rich without giving anything back.
Linux is the fastest growing unix-ish operating system out there. If that operating system was BSD, a company, such as Microsoft, could just take all the code, write a better version, and begin selling it. They could just easily corner that market as well. The GPL is important, because it doesn't allow that. You want to use someone else's code without allowing them to see how you used it. You want something for free. There are sources for that, but a large amount of freely available code is licensed such that you can not just gain from the arrangement, but also have to give back. If you want to use someone else's piece of code, why not just contact the developers and offer to pay money for the code you need under a different license? You will have to give what it is worth. If you just want some code for free, well tough. There is no reason they should help you make money off their hard work.
I cancelled with Verizon as well. I chose T-Mobile. There aren't many others left. Cingular/AT&T definitely like helping the government out. I don't know about Sprint.
Saying you are going to cancel is nice, but I believe we have actually known about this for 10 months. So, when you signed up, you knew that they were going to be handing over all calling data. Either you knew, or you were ignorant of the news about the company you were signing up with. My guess is you aren't too serious about it. Sorry to point you out, but a lot of people have said this. Verizon would change it's actions if there were actually a huge backlash. I was a Verizon customer, and I actually did cancel after this information came out. My contract ended 6 months ago, and I immediately cancelled. I also placed a call to their customer retention people and told them why I was cancelling. Not that it mattered. Most people don't care. Luckily, I believe it is actually illegal based on their own contract and current telecommunications laws. This latest arguement is quaint, but I do not believe it will work.
I completely agree with the poster above. I had the same complaints when someone forwarded it to me a few days ago.
A) What is NBS? B) In the last 3 years, I imagine it was a lot of work to not report on things that made Republicans look bad. Fox has generally done a good job of not "intentionallity looking for stories that make the GOP look badly" or more correctly, they have avoided those stories even when they fell in their lap. They also specifically looked for stories to make the Democratic Party look bad. Memo about trying to find evidence that someone in the middle east was happy Democrats won the midterms? C) What Propaganda? None of those stations news broadcasts are at all left. A lot of the broadcasts project from the view that Republicans are generally right. The pundits are different. Olbermann is particularly hard on Bush and company, though I am not sure that makes him Liberal as much as honest and observant.
Linux does have that now. Do you think IBM, Novell/Suse, and Redhat are just sitting around? IBM has gotten a bunch of big installations of Linux done. Novell/Suse just got McDonald's to test changing over it's POS's. Microsoft is not the only one doing this anymore.
Is there really any chance of them going to jail? I know someone could argue they are doing illegal things, but I don't really see the government caring one way or another.
SCO is still distributing gpl'd works. SCO has
now declared it doesn't accept the gpl. Doesn't
this mean they are violating copyright law and
are now open to being sued by anyone who has code
inside of Linux? To distribute Linux you must
accept the gpl. To not accept the gpl and
distribute Linux would be a copyright violation.
Does the fact that SCO's attorney declared that
the gpl is invalid make it SCO's opinion as well?
It seems to me that SCO's actions must be making
it more difficult for IBM to sell Linux to their
enterprise customers. They are very quiet. When
will IBM stand up and silence SCO? It would seem
that they could do something similar to what
the group did in Germany. They have copyrights from
their contributions. They have the money and the
legal department. I wish someone would stand up
and shut them up. If not IBM, then FSF or
Linus. SCO shouldn't be allowed to profit from
the work of all the Linux developers.
This seems like it violates the gpl. Can someone
that has authored code within the linux kernel
please sue SCO and shut them up. This has gone
on long enough. They can not license gpl'd code
to other people, because that breaks the license,
otherwise making them violaters of a copyright
and piraters. SCO has talked and talked, again
and again, but has never shown any evidence.
After this news release, which is obviously made
to heighten their stock value, someone should
follow through and shut them up as was done in
germany.
I have been talking about sending in email for a long time. I kept thinking about it, but I didn't send it till Monday night.
Microsoft is probably paying people to send email in support of them. We need to stand up and fight back. When Lawrence Lessig was interviewed he said that the people on slashdot are politically apathetic. This has to change. This is not that hard to do, now is the time to tell your feelings to the judge or whoever reads those comments. It is just one email. We can't just stay on the side making comments about how much Microsoft sucks. If we do that, and don't participate then we are helping M$. Even if it doesn't change the ruling, it will change what is in the public record. If there are 10,000 times the number of bad as good in that record, then no matter what ruling is made, M$ has had a loss. You have to compete against hundreds of dead emailers, but lets at least try to compete.
If you roll your eyes at this and say, whatever, then you have just decided not to stand up to M$. M$ will be proud of you for taking their side, by opting out.
Tantris