If this passes, it will become part of the cost of doing business in Europe, which will then become part of the price consumers of electronic goods will have to pay for things.
In the end, the manufacturers have to pass the cost along. They're not going to absorb it for customers living in the EU.
Unfortunately Metallica knows all too well how the music industry works, and they made their choice. Mislead innocents they're not.
Best thing to do, is shun Metallica in all its forms. No discs, tapes, merchandise, or concert tickets.
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What do you get for the judge who has everything? A copy of the Constitution... it's the only thing he's never read.
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Apparently you need to review your United States history. This country was "designed" by revolutionaries, who most certainly were NOT looking to decide who was "right-thinking" and who wasn't.
It's not necessary to leave school 40 grand in debt though. I myself worked through college, it's quite possible to do both.
In the end though, many of your peers will end up making a lot more than you, with little more than their degrees to explain it.
Cash is a good thing. If you're really sitting on enough of it to last a lifetime, then you've got nothing to worry about, and your decision has served you well.
Unfortunately for anyone who got into this industry in the last few years, they might think this booming economy and shortage of qualified workers means they don't need college.
They will soon find the error of their decision, when the economy goes south, as it will, as part of its cycle.
At that time, when employers have their pick of the people from the labor pool, those without college degrees will all find themselves out of work, waiting desperately for the next economic boom, while asking "Do you want fries with that?"
Yep. But I don't really want to see uniform taxation either. I think it's only because states are forced to "compete" against one another that these taxes haven't gotten totally out of control.
The more taxes they collect... the more money they waste. They'd have you think they spend all the money on textbooks for schoolchildren, when in fact they piss it away from the general fund, like all the rest of the money they pick from our pockets.
Let California have their tax. There's no reason all those Internet companies have to be in California. This may help spur new "Silicon Valleys" in other states.
(disclaimer: I am an American) Well, European governments shouldn't have any say in American companies, except that by doing business in Europe, they're voluntarily placing themselves under European jurisdiction in their dealings in those countries. As a European, you have every right to stop our companies from doing to you, what they're doing to us. It seems our government isn't about to stop them, perhaps your government(s) can.
This might also a good thing for the distro vendors to finance. Perhaps the FSF could afford to finance things after an initial round of financing, followed by income from book sales. People who buy the books would then be financing the next round of books.
By the entire world, I assume you include the United States in that. So yes, PayPal is a useful in the real world.
If it only worked in Canada, then it would still be useful in the real world. Just only for Canadians. Sure international is better, but you have to start somewhere.
Well, please note, I'm hardly suggesting that what's likely to happen is either right or legal in either country. Nevertheless, the way the world works is, if you piss off the right people they *will* find a way to get to you.
Johansen was not on trial here (in NY), 2600 was, and Johansen was a witness for the defense. Indeed, Johansen's legal troubles are at home, not here, but rest assured, he was arrested at the behest of the MPAA, through whatever legal or extra-legal means took place to make it happen.
So I do agree, that a lawsuit in a US court may not be a primary concern for a non-US citizen. What is a concern is that the plaintiffs will get you where you live using your own legal system. Our (US) litigious corporations, citizens, and organizations don't stop their pursuit at the United States border.
The US legal system made quick work of Jon Johansen over in Norway. (had the local police arrest him and his father and confiscated their computers) And that's a civil case too. I wouldn't be so quick to assume they won't come for this guy too.
I've been saying this to anyone who'd listen for years. No one owns a domain name (despite the false advertising of the.tv domain registrar), and no one has a God-given right to a domain name any more than they have a right to a specific phone number. I'm still wondering why it is we ever allowed WIPO to have any say in domain names, let alone this new "authority" to take them away and assign them to others.
If they shrink-wrap computers, wouldn't they fall under UCITA licensing where the computer is "not suited for any particular purpose" and the agreement becomes binding as soon as you remove the computer from the shrink wrap?
I just read the Toysmart Privacy Policy. Someone (FTC?) is asleep at the switch. If Toysmart must abide by their policy, then they have nothing to sell at all. Their policy states the information will never be disclosed to a third-party. That clearly prohibits them from doing anything besides destroying the database completely.
Easy to say, hard to pull off. But you're quite right, though many things have changed since the ZIP vs. ARC days, Phil Katz's recent death was a reminder to a lot of us of a time when the community banded together and passed judgement against SEA (makers of ARC). SEA no doubt thought the court papers would be the final word on the matter, but it was only the judgement of the community as a whole that mattered in the end.
If a similar flexing of community power took place today, the results would undoubtedly be that we would get whatever we wanted. All the reasons given why this simply can't be done would vanish in a explosion generated by competitive pressures.
Go check it out at http://www.chilisoft.com I know it does JavaScript. But, I think the vast majority of ASP pages are scripted using VBScript. None of those pages will be able to be served up by Chili!Soft ASP unless someone starts porting the VBScript engine as well.
Just wanted to point out for the many in here that appear to be confused, Chili!Soft ASP does not support VBScript. Therefore, Chili!Soft ASP does *nothing* for most of the people who think this is just what they've been looking for. A lot of people make this mistake, thinking ASP=VB. Nothing could be further from the truth, ASP supports many scripting languages, Chili!Soft ASP does not.
I think, is that people are actually paying good money to let Mattel decide what they should see.
But, with a little luck Mattel will be able to censor sex out of these people's lives. If they don't reproduce, then eventually there shouldn't be a market for their software.;)
Since we're talking about the US Congress, the question is who among us is going to step up and *buy* us a Congressman? For the non-US Slashdotters, here in the US, Congressman vote based on the concerns of their largest campaign contributors.
I want to state up front that I've nothing against Jeff Bezos, I'm just going to use him here as an example...
The problem is more that once you make it big, like Jeff Bezos did, suddenly you find that your interests are in line with those that want to take away our rights. Bezos thus has chosen to become part of the patent problem, rather than part of the solution. Likewise, if he contributes to political campaigns, I doubt he's supporting *our* positions, he's supporting the positions that appear to benefit Amazon.com.
If we want our "own" Congressman, we need to organize, and contribute to them. That's the way it works. It may be wrong, but it simply is.
I'm reading the article, there's Bush & McCain ads playing behind me on TV. Suddenly, I realize, these "I'm better!" computer ads of Sun and Microsoft are a lot like political ads. Full of fire, manipulated scenarios, and twisted truths.
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If this passes, it will become part of the cost of doing business in Europe, which will then become part of the price consumers of electronic goods will have to pay for things.
In the end, the manufacturers have to pass the cost along. They're not going to absorb it for customers living in the EU.
Unfortunately Metallica knows all too well how the music industry works, and they made their choice. Mislead innocents they're not.
Best thing to do, is shun Metallica in all its forms. No discs, tapes, merchandise, or concert tickets.
--
What do you get for the judge who has everything? A copy of the Constitution... it's the only thing he's never read.
Apparently you need to review your United States history. This country was "designed" by revolutionaries, who most certainly were NOT looking to decide who was "right-thinking" and who wasn't.
It's not necessary to leave school 40 grand in debt though. I myself worked through college, it's quite possible to do both.
In the end though, many of your peers will end up making a lot more than you, with little more than their degrees to explain it.
Cash is a good thing. If you're really sitting on enough of it to last a lifetime, then you've got nothing to worry about, and your decision has served you well.
Unfortunately for anyone who got into this industry in the last few years, they might think this booming economy and shortage of qualified workers means they don't need college.
They will soon find the error of their decision, when the economy goes south, as it will, as part of its cycle.
At that time, when employers have their pick of the people from the labor pool, those without college degrees will all find themselves out of work, waiting desperately for the next economic boom, while asking "Do you want fries with that?"
Yep. But I don't really want to see uniform taxation either. I think it's only because states are forced to "compete" against one another that these taxes haven't gotten totally out of control.
The more taxes they collect... the more money they waste. They'd have you think they spend all the money on textbooks for schoolchildren, when in fact they piss it away from the general fund, like all the rest of the money they pick from our pockets.
Let California have their tax. There's no reason all those Internet companies have to be in California. This may help spur new "Silicon Valleys" in other states.
(disclaimer: I am an American) Well, European governments shouldn't have any say in American companies, except that by doing business in Europe, they're voluntarily placing themselves under European jurisdiction in their dealings in those countries. As a European, you have every right to stop our companies from doing to you, what they're doing to us. It seems our government isn't about to stop them, perhaps your government(s) can.
More power to you.
You're kidding, right?
Go to slashcode.com and get *the* GPL'd Slashdot site code.
This might also a good thing for the distro vendors to finance. Perhaps the FSF could afford to finance things after an initial round of financing, followed by income from book sales. People who buy the books would then be financing the next round of books.
By the entire world, I assume you include the United States in that. So yes, PayPal is a useful in the real world.
If it only worked in Canada, then it would still be useful in the real world. Just only for Canadians. Sure international is better, but you have to start somewhere.
Well, please note, I'm hardly suggesting that what's likely to happen is either right or legal in either country. Nevertheless, the way the world works is, if you piss off the right people they *will* find a way to get to you.
Johansen was not on trial here (in NY), 2600 was, and Johansen was a witness for the defense. Indeed, Johansen's legal troubles are at home, not here, but rest assured, he was arrested at the behest of the MPAA, through whatever legal or extra-legal means took place to make it happen.
So I do agree, that a lawsuit in a US court may not be a primary concern for a non-US citizen. What is a concern is that the plaintiffs will get you where you live using your own legal system. Our (US) litigious corporations, citizens, and organizations don't stop their pursuit at the United States border.
The US legal system made quick work of Jon Johansen over in Norway. (had the local police arrest him and his father and confiscated their computers) And that's a civil case too. I wouldn't be so quick to assume they won't come for this guy too.
I've been saying this to anyone who'd listen for years. No one owns a domain name (despite the false advertising of the .tv domain registrar), and no one has a God-given right to a domain name any more than they have a right to a specific phone number. I'm still wondering why it is we ever allowed WIPO to have any say in domain names, let alone this new "authority" to take them away and assign them to others.
If they shrink-wrap computers, wouldn't they fall under UCITA licensing where the computer is "not suited for any particular purpose" and the agreement becomes binding as soon as you remove the computer from the shrink wrap?
I just read the Toysmart Privacy Policy. Someone (FTC?) is asleep at the switch.
If Toysmart must abide by their policy, then they have nothing to sell at all. Their policy states the information will never be disclosed to a third-party. That clearly prohibits them from doing anything besides destroying the database completely.
If I were you, I'd see about getting my money back from that college you went to.
"Well, we held or deleted the first few hundred submissions, because we were hoping the situation would magically clarify itself."
And you Slashdot ops wonder why so many of us think you're going down the tubes.
So, you figure if you delete the news often enough, it will go away? Get real.
This is NOT good advertising. It's offensive to the advertising profession as well. The purpose of advertising is not to deceive.
Easy to say, hard to pull off.
But you're quite right, though many things have changed since the ZIP vs. ARC days, Phil Katz's recent death was a reminder to a lot of us of a time when the community banded together and passed judgement against SEA (makers of ARC). SEA no doubt thought the court papers would be the final word on the matter, but it was only the judgement of the community as a whole that mattered in the end.
If a similar flexing of community power took place today, the results would undoubtedly be that we would get whatever we wanted. All the reasons given why this simply can't be done would vanish in a explosion generated by competitive pressures.
But I'm not holding my breath.
Go check it out at http://www.chilisoft.com
I know it does JavaScript. But, I think the vast majority of ASP pages are scripted using VBScript. None of those pages will be able to be served up by Chili!Soft ASP unless someone starts porting the VBScript engine as well.
Just wanted to point out for the many in here that appear to be confused, Chili!Soft ASP does not support VBScript. Therefore, Chili!Soft ASP does *nothing* for most of the people who think this is just what they've been looking for. A lot of people make this mistake, thinking ASP=VB. Nothing could be further from the truth, ASP supports many scripting languages, Chili!Soft ASP does not.
I think, is that people are actually paying good money to let Mattel decide what they should see.
;)
But, with a little luck Mattel will be able to censor sex out of these people's lives. If they don't reproduce, then eventually there shouldn't be a market for their software.
Since we're talking about the US Congress, the question is who among us is going to step up and *buy* us a Congressman? For the non-US Slashdotters, here in the US, Congressman vote based on the concerns of their largest campaign contributors.
I want to state up front that I've nothing against Jeff Bezos, I'm just going to use him here as an example...
The problem is more that once you make it big, like Jeff Bezos did, suddenly you find that your interests are in line with those that want to take away our rights. Bezos thus has chosen to become part of the patent problem, rather than part of the solution. Likewise, if he contributes to political campaigns, I doubt he's supporting *our* positions, he's supporting the positions that appear to benefit Amazon.com.
If we want our "own" Congressman, we need to organize, and contribute to them. That's the way it works. It may be wrong, but it simply is.
IBM provides meeting space at its Madison Ave. headquarters building to both LXNY, and NYLUG.
I missed the FAO Schwarz party they hosted, but that was mighty nice of them also.
I for one, have never doubted that IBM probably had Microsoft in mind when they decided to get involved in supporting Linux and the Linux user groups.
I'm reading the article, there's Bush & McCain ads playing behind me on TV. Suddenly, I realize, these "I'm better!" computer ads of Sun and Microsoft are a lot like political ads. Full of fire, manipulated scenarios, and twisted truths.