It's not the editors - it's the admins. Less and less, but the ones that remain are totally corrupt and beyond redemption.
This is how bad it was in 2007 and if anything, it's actually gotten worse since with the addition of further negatory policies.
Want to prove you're NOT a sockpuppet? There is no technical way to do so - guilty until proven innocent. Want to show that an admin's block was against policy? "Oh don't talk about others behavior and you can't get unblocked by proving it was a bad block, you have to kiss ass and grovel." Just saying the words "this block violates policy" is enough to get your talk page locked. And their little "email request to be unblocked?" system is a joke, while their Freenode IRC room for the same is manned by 6 admins who are the worst of the worst of the worst.
Trying to add New York Times-reported profile information on someone involved in politics that an admin is protecting? Instant banhammer. Most recently they've been letting Phyllis Schlafly's son (not joking, his username is "Schlafly") edit her article via sockpuppet addresses and maintain ruthless control of it, keeping some of her most disgusting and racist behavior out of the article despite widespread media coverage.
Power corrupts. Petty power corrupts absolutely. There is nobody more invested in petty power, or more corrupt to the very core, than a wikipedia admin.
More likely you'll teach the students why wikipedia should never be used by anyone, ever, the very first time they get into an argument with an admin and out comes the corrupt behavior and [[WP:OWN]] issues and instant unthinking banhammer attitude.
And the original author gets a sense of ownership of the topic.
The worst problems on wikipedia right now are the same as 5 years ago. Small cliques of users or single users who have friends/pet admins who "own" various articles, playing defensive games and provocation games against any user who comes to try to improve the article.
Years and years ago, and nothing has changed at wikipedia. It's still the same corrupt culture, still the same behavior, still the same old "guilty until proven innocent, oh wait there is absolutely NO way to ever prove innocence" when those corrupt shitbags known as admins get involved.
Try finding out that Roger Schlafly, white supremacist, and his white supremacist friends are practicing ownership of the articles on Phyllis Schlafly and Eagle Forum (white supremacist website).
Roger Schlafly is Phyllis Schlafly's son; his brother founded "conservapedia."
Get a hybrid with a charging cable. Top it off from wall overnight.
Also, consider that electrics don't dump a ton of smog-producing particulate straight into the air on the roadway. Sure, a stiff wind (might) dissipate it but if 50% of the cars on the road were running electric instead of gas in a particular moment I think we might begin to smell the difference.
How does that fit into the free market capitalism that made America great? If someone else can do the same job cheaper, hire them instead.
You mean to say, "If someone can be hired for slave wages and locked into a single-employer contract with no chance to move jobs rather than hiring people on an equal footing."
This is about as far from "free market capitalism" as it comes. The H-1B system deliberately alters the agreement and creates a semi-slave labor deliberately paying under-market wages.
for why the H-1B system ought to be massively reduced and US contracts should be awarded only to actual US companies instead of shell-game "subsidiaries."
There wasn't one rational reason stated why censorship is a good thing
Really? How about the idea that having a bunch of lame-ass mooches, trolls, and flamers causing nothing but drama increases the stress level of developers and causes them to abandon projects entirely?
That's a net loss for EVERYONE. The projects don't complete or get kicked way back on deadline waiting for someone else to pick them up, learn the code, learn to extend it, and finish it off. If they ever do, since those same lame-ass trolls and flamers are waiting to pounce again.
This guy needs to grow up and grow a pair.
OR, the lame-ass trolls need to grow up.
Look, I get it. You're 14, you live in your parents' basement, and to you swearing is only nominally less exciting than a furtive glimpse at a pair of tits. You think it makes you sound grown up. Used in moderation, it can. But there's a right way and a wrong way to phrase things, a right way and a wrong way to handle conflict, and a right and wrong way to deal with drama.
The problem with trolls, fanboys and flamers in this context is that they increase rather than decrease the drama levels and stress levels. Rather than putting out fires and being a little diplomatic, they throw gasoline on fires and expect the house to still be standing after the inferno.
Bad move. It destroys projects and drives people away from open source. Hell, the reason I never made the jump to using Linux on the desktop was my own experiences trying to set up a Mythbox in my living room; because I didn't have the exact hardware that one of the developers had, asked for some help, got shouted at "RTFM you fucking loser" over and over again when the documentation was crap and had no relevance to the situation I was asking about... screw it. I'm not going to try to navigate the 300:1 odds of finding someone helpful among that lame-ass crowd in order to try to use F/OSS and I can understand why it drives developers away too!
And yet the Tea Party thugs were demanding government "do whatever it takes" post-9/11... now they're crying about what they demanded.
I'm not saying they're wrong to be crying now, I'm saying they were hypocritical fools when it really fucking mattered in the first place and they were the cause. We'll have to see if they can get their shit together enough to be a part of the solution or if between the racism, sexism, antigay bigotry, and general adherence to a 2000 year old bound volume of toilet paper they turn out to just be a distraction.
... and petty power corrupts all out of proportion anyways.
We've lost freedom constantly. Freedom to alter things we PURCHASED? Check. All the freedoms associated with actually making a purchase? Gone to shrink-wrap agreements, "End User License Agreements", and other bullshit that makes a purchase not really a purchase.
Onboard computers in cars: now you can't clear the code or find out what's wrong on a new-model car without going to the dealership because they lag behind and won't sell your local mechanic the adapter and the reader software. Friend of mine got his brakes changed on a volkswagen model and an alarm started blaring off; turned out VW stuck a sensor in the brake pads that causes the alarm if it's not found, and the normal size-compatible pads from 3rd party makers didn't have the sensor.
NSA tracking is the tip of the iceberg, the consumer got fucked in the ass long ago.
Then how hard is it for you the offended reader to stop buying the products of the companies who lobbied for this outcome or in some other way hurt their bottom line ?
The funny thing is that we did. And the response of the shit-flinging monkeys, suits, and marketing morons of the MafiAA was... to blame their losses on piracy rather than shitty broken-by-design products.
They don't give a damn about a few angered/. posters who swore off Sony because they couldn't run Linux on their game consoles.
They are, however, KEENLY aware of the legions of users who stopped buying shit from their online store and basically deserted the console following their leaving the customers' credit card data right in the fucking open.
My PS3 is a standing blu-ray player that isn't allowed to have a network connection these days for good reason, and I suspect Sony realized that there's no chance in hell of my buying their box if it required a net connection knowing their track record on the subject.
(A) Install update, play game (that you can't return to the store since you opened the box), BUT lose your OtherOS functionality...
- or -
(B) Keep OtherOS function, not play game, can't return game, Sony just ripped you off for the price of console + game since the key function (playing new release games) is now broken on-disc.
I'm not worried about my karma either. I know the Apple FanBois are going to downmod anyone that isn't sucking on the fruity titty of the Mac Cult, but hey, they do that all the time anyways.
Apple admits they see them popping up all over the world under other names but WON'T recall or stop them from being used.
FTFY.
Apple are lazy-ass sons of bitches as are the cell companies complicit in this shit. They "admit they see them popping up all over the world" but they WON'T:
- Flag the account of the new user as using a stolen phone. - Deactivate that user's account / internet access until they come in to complain and then point out that the phone is stolen.
The real war isn't because of this, it's because Apple wants to have total control (more to the point, their fingers in the wallet) over anyone developing for the iOS devices. They want their 30% cut, period.
Powering up/down issues seem like it'll be the case if you offload your audio board, video board, etc.
Not to mention, the whole "hey see my sleek cylinder computer right next to the stack of crap that wouldn't fit inside the case" mental image changes how "cool" that trashbucket-shaped machine looks.
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It's not the editors - it's the admins. Less and less, but the ones that remain are totally corrupt and beyond redemption.
This is how bad it was in 2007 and if anything, it's actually gotten worse since with the addition of further negatory policies.
Want to prove you're NOT a sockpuppet? There is no technical way to do so - guilty until proven innocent.
Want to show that an admin's block was against policy? "Oh don't talk about others behavior and you can't get unblocked by proving it was a bad block, you have to kiss ass and grovel." Just saying the words "this block violates policy" is enough to get your talk page locked. And their little "email request to be unblocked?" system is a joke, while their Freenode IRC room for the same is manned by 6 admins who are the worst of the worst of the worst.
Trying to add New York Times-reported profile information on someone involved in politics that an admin is protecting? Instant banhammer. Most recently they've been letting Phyllis Schlafly's son (not joking, his username is "Schlafly") edit her article via sockpuppet addresses and maintain ruthless control of it, keeping some of her most disgusting and racist behavior out of the article despite widespread media coverage.
Power corrupts. Petty power corrupts absolutely. There is nobody more invested in petty power, or more corrupt to the very core, than a wikipedia admin.
And over the years, my respect for wikipedia has dwindled to a tiny speck. It's a corrupt place, and nothing on it can be trusted.
More likely you'll teach the students why wikipedia should never be used by anyone, ever, the very first time they get into an argument with an admin and out comes the corrupt behavior and [[WP:OWN]] issues and instant unthinking banhammer attitude.
And the original author gets a sense of ownership of the topic.
The worst problems on wikipedia right now are the same as 5 years ago. Small cliques of users or single users who have friends/pet admins who "own" various articles, playing defensive games and provocation games against any user who comes to try to improve the article.
Years and years ago, and nothing has changed at wikipedia. It's still the same corrupt culture, still the same behavior, still the same old "guilty until proven innocent, oh wait there is absolutely NO way to ever prove innocence" when those corrupt shitbags known as admins get involved.
"environmental cult"
It's you religious shitwits who are the problem, christ-for-brains.
VPN, a Samba share with required domain authentication, and inside the share a Truecrypt volume (or volume(s) plural).
Try finding out that Roger Schlafly, white supremacist, and his white supremacist friends are practicing ownership of the articles on Phyllis Schlafly and Eagle Forum (white supremacist website).
Roger Schlafly is Phyllis Schlafly's son; his brother founded "conservapedia."
Look it up. User:Schlafly on Wikipedia.
And they let this go on.
Nah, it has the same flaws it always had - broken system, corrupt admins, and no chance that good edits will ever survive.
Texas = Shitty Christian Taliban.
They cannot possibly be the owner of the copyright to VLC, shitwit.
Yeah, if you want people to die of heatstroke. The PODS design becomes a solar oven in no time.
Get a hybrid with a charging cable. Top it off from wall overnight.
Also, consider that electrics don't dump a ton of smog-producing particulate straight into the air on the roadway. Sure, a stiff wind (might) dissipate it but if 50% of the cars on the road were running electric instead of gas in a particular moment I think we might begin to smell the difference.
How does that fit into the free market capitalism that made America great? If someone else can do the same job cheaper, hire them instead.
You mean to say, "If someone can be hired for slave wages and locked into a single-employer contract with no chance to move jobs rather than hiring people on an equal footing."
This is about as far from "free market capitalism" as it comes. The H-1B system deliberately alters the agreement and creates a semi-slave labor deliberately paying under-market wages.
And then there's all the fraud in the system. Including falsely inflated skills listings designed to keep anyone from successfully applying for the jobs later salted to H-1Bs with far less than the originally advertised qualifications. And of course the demand for H-1Bs rather than actual EB-5s where they would have legal right to leave for better employment if it was offered by another company.
Don't you dare use the term "free market capitalism", you fucking slavemonger. It's nothing of the sort.
for why the H-1B system ought to be massively reduced and US contracts should be awarded only to actual US companies instead of shell-game "subsidiaries."
Summed up better this way.
If you reject DRM, you "risk" walling off parts of the Web.
If you accept DRM, however, you GUARANTEE that parts of the Web will become walled off.
There wasn't one rational reason stated why censorship is a good thing
Really? How about the idea that having a bunch of lame-ass mooches, trolls, and flamers causing nothing but drama increases the stress level of developers and causes them to abandon projects entirely?
That's a net loss for EVERYONE. The projects don't complete or get kicked way back on deadline waiting for someone else to pick them up, learn the code, learn to extend it, and finish it off. If they ever do, since those same lame-ass trolls and flamers are waiting to pounce again.
This guy needs to grow up and grow a pair.
OR, the lame-ass trolls need to grow up.
Look, I get it. You're 14, you live in your parents' basement, and to you swearing is only nominally less exciting than a furtive glimpse at a pair of tits. You think it makes you sound grown up. Used in moderation, it can. But there's a right way and a wrong way to phrase things, a right way and a wrong way to handle conflict, and a right and wrong way to deal with drama.
The problem with trolls, fanboys and flamers in this context is that they increase rather than decrease the drama levels and stress levels. Rather than putting out fires and being a little diplomatic, they throw gasoline on fires and expect the house to still be standing after the inferno.
Bad move. It destroys projects and drives people away from open source. Hell, the reason I never made the jump to using Linux on the desktop was my own experiences trying to set up a Mythbox in my living room; because I didn't have the exact hardware that one of the developers had, asked for some help, got shouted at "RTFM you fucking loser" over and over again when the documentation was crap and had no relevance to the situation I was asking about... screw it. I'm not going to try to navigate the 300:1 odds of finding someone helpful among that lame-ass crowd in order to try to use F/OSS and I can understand why it drives developers away too!
And yet the Tea Party thugs were demanding government "do whatever it takes" post-9/11... now they're crying about what they demanded.
I'm not saying they're wrong to be crying now, I'm saying they were hypocritical fools when it really fucking mattered in the first place and they were the cause. We'll have to see if they can get their shit together enough to be a part of the solution or if between the racism, sexism, antigay bigotry, and general adherence to a 2000 year old bound volume of toilet paper they turn out to just be a distraction.
... and petty power corrupts all out of proportion anyways.
We've lost freedom constantly. Freedom to alter things we PURCHASED? Check. All the freedoms associated with actually making a purchase? Gone to shrink-wrap agreements, "End User License Agreements", and other bullshit that makes a purchase not really a purchase.
Onboard computers in cars: now you can't clear the code or find out what's wrong on a new-model car without going to the dealership because they lag behind and won't sell your local mechanic the adapter and the reader software. Friend of mine got his brakes changed on a volkswagen model and an alarm started blaring off; turned out VW stuck a sensor in the brake pads that causes the alarm if it's not found, and the normal size-compatible pads from 3rd party makers didn't have the sensor.
NSA tracking is the tip of the iceberg, the consumer got fucked in the ass long ago.
Then how hard is it for you the offended reader to stop buying the products of the companies who lobbied for this outcome or in some other way hurt their bottom line ?
The funny thing is that we did. And the response of the shit-flinging monkeys, suits, and marketing morons of the MafiAA was... to blame their losses on piracy rather than shitty broken-by-design products.
They don't give a damn about a few angered /. posters who swore off Sony because they couldn't run Linux on their game consoles.
They are, however, KEENLY aware of the legions of users who stopped buying shit from their online store and basically deserted the console following their leaving the customers' credit card data right in the fucking open.
My PS3 is a standing blu-ray player that isn't allowed to have a network connection these days for good reason, and I suspect Sony realized that there's no chance in hell of my buying their box if it required a net connection knowing their track record on the subject.
Correct, so it became a choice:
(A) Install update, play game (that you can't return to the store since you opened the box), BUT lose your OtherOS functionality...
- or -
(B) Keep OtherOS function, not play game, can't return game, Sony just ripped you off for the price of console + game since the key function (playing new release games) is now broken on-disc.
Bingo!
I'm not worried about my karma either. I know the Apple FanBois are going to downmod anyone that isn't sucking on the fruity titty of the Mac Cult, but hey, they do that all the time anyways.
Apple admits they see them popping up all over the world under other names but WON'T recall or stop them from being used.
FTFY.
Apple are lazy-ass sons of bitches as are the cell companies complicit in this shit. They "admit they see them popping up all over the world" but they WON'T:
- Flag the account of the new user as using a stolen phone.
- Deactivate that user's account / internet access until they come in to complain and then point out that the phone is stolen.
Not "Can't." WON'T. Big fucking difference there.
http://www.factory-express.com/Shrink_Wrap-366.htm
Hey look at that - "It's new in box, still shrink wrapped. It didn't work? Call Apple it's under warranty."
Yes, phone-based ransomware. It's called iOS.
The real war isn't because of this, it's because Apple wants to have total control (more to the point, their fingers in the wallet) over anyone developing for the iOS devices. They want their 30% cut, period.
Powering up/down issues seem like it'll be the case if you offload your audio board, video board, etc.
Not to mention, the whole "hey see my sleek cylinder computer right next to the stack of crap that wouldn't fit inside the case" mental image changes how "cool" that trashbucket-shaped machine looks.