SEC investigations take time, tho. As I recall the SEC is already into SCO from some earlier allegations; this is probably just more on their plate. SEC manpower is not limitless, remember.
As to allegations of PnD, there have been many, many of those around the web, some by people with a lot more horsepower than most/. posters. Anyway, it's either PnD or a truly incredible coincidence (in other words, prove it's NOT true, SCO);=-)
Just as interesting, is does the speed of gravitation propogation (the rate of change in local gravitation measurements) follow Einsteinien physics? As I remember, he was interested in that question also, but there still doesn't seem to be an answer to it.
If gravitational changes propogate faster than c, it could have all kinds of interesting effects on our understanding of physics. Robert Forward started experiments on gravity "waves" back in the 60s, but still, as far as I know, nobody has demonstrated whether or not gravity follows EMR laws, or whether it has it's own laws.
I'm way out of the physics world nowadays, but I'd love to learn more.
It's been shown (reference, help!:-) that no matter how fast the propogation medium, information propogation is still limited to c. I believe the latest was in the quantum experiments with electrons which were simultaneously created yet still "knew" what the others' state was.
God, it's late, and I'm tired, someone help me out on this one? I know I've read it over and over:-( just don't remember the specifics.
Bet websites like those texts (several of which I own) would be on the blocked list, too. After all, can't have kids knowing too much about sex, now, can we?/sarcasm
Isn't that what they said before, but s/July/June?
"going to start collecting money "
IMHO, but any company that pays them a dime before this is resolved should fire the exec that makes that decision.
It's time to put on the waders, the BS is getting really deep. McBride is responsible for the floodgate control, and it's wideopen, damn the industry, full speed ahead on the lawyer throttle.
Thanks for your contributions to the/. forum, man:-) We *really really* appreciate it.
Give it a try. If they do, attempt to get it entered as evidence that they're still distributing Linux. *shrug* Don't know if it'll do any good, but hey....
2.3 also sucks, BTW. I've had a chance to play with it a bit.It's like going back 4 years in distros. Poor configuration, poor setup, crippled apps...compared to a modern dist - any of them - it's junk.
Problem is, an SEC investigation could take *years* (most do); meanwhile, damage is being done to the linux developers and community in general in the public eye (meaning mostly corporate acceptance). While this may or may not hurt the developers, it is hurting and will continue to hurt those of us who are trying to spread the word about Linux and it's advantages.
The damage hasn't been that great - yet - but if this drags on for a while, with SCO and their public statements being in the public limelight, it could do a great deal of damage. I've approached two businesses in the community I just moved to who use SCO products about changing to Linux (one of them being the local Ace Hardware, who had his complaints about support costs) and both have noticed the FUD being spread, and had little or no idea about the other side of the story until I pointed them to a few sites (slashdot being one).
DMB and Sontag know this. The fact that they're more or less willing to publicly self-destruct their reputations in the IT industry at large means to me that they've already been paid off, and are not worried about retiring wealthy. Paid off by whom, I wonder? Hmph. Who would benefit the most, right now, from long term damage to the OSS community? I think the answer to that is obvious.
The only *good* thing I see coming from all this, is that in the long run, if SCO is investigated and the major players there are slammed hard by the SEC (we can hope) that there may be some changes in how corporations have to do business. Yeah, it's optimistic. We have to be - and have to keep fighting. This is the battle of the collective individuals in IT against the entrenched corporate legal teams. The winner - if there is one - may not emerge for a very long time. One way or another, the damage is going to be tremendous - and I'm talking damage to people in the service industry side of IT especially.
If it was up to me, DMB and Sontag would hang. Probably a good thing I'm not a judge:-)
Doh! The quote above was from the google cache, the link above states "Perhaps more characteristicaly he quotted Groucho Marx in saying "Of course, you know, this means war.". " in referring to Bugs.
It's like the old magicians trick, distracts you with speed and sleight-of-hand whilst he's making a fool out of you...."See, they can get a look at it, really!" - to the press - he's slick, all right.
They have the PR FUD down really, really well. That was nothing more than a play to the cameras.
It's called the Scorched Earth Policy. We're dying anyway, let's see if we can't get someone to help us take down our enemies (like, Micros^H^H^H^H^H^H flaming torches):-)
I'll second, third, and Nth that. IBM! IBM! IBM! CRRUSH THOSE BASTIDS! RIP THEIR SUITS OFF! Subject them to Britney all day! (Don't use so many caps. It's like YELLING. - no shit, slashcode:-)
SCO has made no secret in recent months that it hired high-profile attorney David Boies to spearhead its case against IBM, but the company's legal representation in Utah courts is also noteworthy. The company retained Brent O. Hatch and Mark F. James of the law firm Hatch, James & Dodge. Hatch is the son of Senator Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, a representative for SCO confirmed Monday.
It's not any different in most of the country; although I'd agree Humboldt and the area probably have a greater functional concentration than most areas.
I haven't been out there in a long time, tho. I'm still kinda amazed the DEA simply hasn't nuked the whole area.
Well....well put, but I'd consider it flamebait unless *you* were out there protesting. Otherwise you're just blowing hot air his way. I really did not mean to flame you, but I hope you see what I mean:-)
In one sense, you were doing exactly what he was. If you *were* there protesting, I withdraw my comments and apologize.
Thanks, I was wondering about what kind of load colleges dealt with nowadays (it's been >15 years since school).
So with 2200 students, ~ 100k hits per day,/24/60/60 results in about 1.5 hits per second. If the average query serving time is about two seconds his software should do ok. For 2200 students, anyways...
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SEC investigations take time, tho. As I recall the SEC is already
/. ;=-)
into SCO from some earlier allegations; this is probably just more
on their plate. SEC manpower is not limitless, remember.
As to allegations of PnD, there have been many, many of those around
the web, some by people with a lot more horsepower than most
posters. Anyway, it's either PnD or a truly incredible coincidence (in other words, prove it's NOT true, SCO)
Just my 0.02, adjusted for inflation
SB
It all depends on how clueless the judge is.
SB
I worked at the Hormel plant in the hometown of Austin, MN for a little while back while I was in school in 1986.
:-)
What goes into it?
You truly don't want to know
(sweep, sweep, dump, processs)
Heh. Ugh.
SB
"the people who saw it via email purposely subscribed to a mailing list in order to get it. It was not sent out unsolicited."
Give it a couple weeks. Someone will come up with a spam email to spoof it.
SB
Just as interesting, is does the speed of gravitation propogation (the rate of change in local gravitation measurements) follow Einsteinien physics? As I remember, he was interested in that question also, but there still doesn't seem to be an answer to it.
If gravitational changes propogate faster than c, it could have all kinds of interesting effects on our understanding of physics. Robert Forward started experiments on gravity "waves" back in the 60s, but still, as far as I know, nobody has demonstrated whether or not gravity follows EMR laws, or whether it has it's own laws.
I'm way out of the physics world nowadays, but I'd love to learn more.
SB
It's been shown (reference, help! :-) that no matter how fast the propogation medium, information propogation is still limited to c. I believe the latest was in the quantum experiments with electrons which were simultaneously created yet still "knew" what the others' state was.
:-( just don't remember the specifics.
God, it's late, and I'm tired, someone help me out on this one? I know I've read it over and over
SB
IMHO, this whole thread deserves a +Funny mod :-)
It's an in-joke, ok?
SB
No, they end up as baked potatoes...
SB
Bet websites like those texts (several of which I own) would be on the blocked list, too. After all, can't have kids knowing too much about sex, now, can we? /sarcasm
SB
Senator Orrin Hatch a Pirate?
:-)
Read down a bit for the porn
SB
"SCO's intentions would become clear in July."
/. forum, man :-) We *really really* appreciate it.
Isn't that what they said before, but s/July/June?
"going to start collecting money "
IMHO, but any company that pays them a dime before this is resolved should fire the exec that makes that decision.
It's time to put on the waders, the BS is getting really deep. McBride is responsible for the floodgate control, and it's wideopen, damn the industry, full speed ahead on the lawyer throttle.
Thanks for your contributions to the
SB
Give it a try. If they do, attempt to get it entered as evidence that they're still distributing Linux. *shrug* Don't know if it'll do any good, but hey....
2.3 also sucks, BTW. I've had a chance to play with it a bit.It's like going back 4 years in distros. Poor configuration, poor setup, crippled apps...compared to a modern dist - any of them - it's junk.
SB
Problem is, an SEC investigation could take *years* (most do); meanwhile, damage is being done to the linux developers and community in general in the public eye (meaning mostly corporate acceptance). While this may or may not hurt the developers, it is hurting and will continue to hurt those of us who are trying to spread the word about Linux and it's advantages.
:-)
The damage hasn't been that great - yet - but if this drags on for a while, with SCO and their public statements being in the public limelight, it could do a great deal of damage. I've approached two businesses in the community I just moved to who use SCO products about changing to Linux (one of them being the local Ace Hardware, who had his complaints about support costs) and both have noticed the FUD being spread, and had little or no idea about the other side of the story until I pointed them to a few sites (slashdot being one).
DMB and Sontag know this. The fact that they're more or less willing to publicly self-destruct their reputations in the IT industry at large means to me that they've already been paid off, and are not worried about retiring wealthy. Paid off by whom, I wonder? Hmph. Who would benefit the most, right now, from long term damage to the OSS community? I think the answer to that is obvious.
The only *good* thing I see coming from all this, is that in the long run, if SCO is investigated and the major players there are slammed hard by the SEC (we can hope) that there may be some changes in how corporations have to do business. Yeah, it's optimistic. We have to be - and have to keep fighting. This is the battle of the collective individuals in IT against the entrenched corporate legal teams. The winner - if there is one - may not emerge for a very long time. One way or another, the damage is going to be tremendous - and I'm talking damage to people in the service industry side of IT especially.
If it was up to me, DMB and Sontag would hang. Probably a good thing I'm not a judge
SB
Doh! The quote above was from the google cache, the link above states "Perhaps more characteristicaly he quotted Groucho Marx in saying "Of course, you know, this means war.". " in referring to Bugs.
:-)
Google isn't usually this far behind
SB
Ummm..
:-0
"Thus offended, (usually 3 times) Bugs would often state "Of course, you realize this means war" (a line which Jones noted was taken from Groucho Marx)"
Sorry
SB
It's like the old magicians trick, distracts you with speed and sleight-of-hand whilst he's making a fool out of you...."See, they can get a look at it, really!" - to the press - he's slick, all right.
They have the PR FUD down really, really well. That was nothing more than a play to the cameras.
Bastards.
SB
LOL
"Nerf Herders are NOT scruffy lookin!"
:-) /tongue in cheek
Damn, lady, you married?
SB
It's called the Scorched Earth Policy. We're dying anyway, let's see if we can't get someone to help us take down our enemies (like, Micros^H^H^H^H^H^H flaming torches) :-)
SB
I'll second, third, and Nth that. IBM! IBM! IBM! CRRUSH THOSE BASTIDS! RIP THEIR SUITS OFF! Subject them to Britney all day! (Don't use so many caps. It's like YELLING. - no shit, slashcode :-)
:-))))
Uh, erm...
SB
Especially when one considers this
Tuesday 17th June 2003
(emphasis mine)
SCO has made no secret in recent months that it hired high-profile attorney David Boies to spearhead its case against IBM, but the company's legal representation in Utah courts is also noteworthy. The company retained Brent O. Hatch and Mark F. James of the law firm Hatch, James & Dodge. Hatch is the son of Senator Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, a representative for SCO confirmed Monday.
SB
It's not any different in most of the country; although I'd agree Humboldt and the area probably have a greater functional concentration than most areas.
I haven't been out there in a long time, tho. I'm still kinda amazed the DEA simply hasn't nuked the whole area.
SB
Well....well put, but I'd consider it flamebait unless *you* were out there protesting. Otherwise you're just blowing hot air his way. I really did not mean to flame you, but I hope you see what I mean :-)
In one sense, you were doing exactly what he was. If you *were* there protesting, I withdraw my comments and apologize.
SB
Good points.
SB
Thanks, I was wondering about what kind of load colleges dealt with nowadays (it's been >15 years since school).
/24/60/60 results in about 1.5 hits per second. If the average query serving time is about two seconds his software should do ok. For 2200 students, anyways...
So with 2200 students, ~ 100k hits per day,
SB