well, having quickly RTFA, "Pam Dixon, head of the World Privacy Forum", "Richard Smith, formerly at the Privacy Foundation", "The Drudge Report", and depending on who you listen to, "The World and his Dog"
True, but an english newbie will only have to be told once what cd, mkdir, mv and cp stand for and they'll be able to remember it. zk? don't think so.
admittedly, a lot of unix standard command line tools are poorly named, but the article would indicate that the act of typing into a prompt (having a conversation) is much more familiar to newbies than using a gui.
if someone was to take the time to set up some intuitive aliases and compspecs in bash...
I thought Lucas went to school with someone called Vader at school (IIRC), and got the inspiration from there. I'm sure there are the yearbooks online with their pictures, but I can't seem to find them at the moment.
Can't see that being mentioned in Episode III though...
Personally i don't use a desktop per se. i use enlightenment, and spend the majority of my time at a shell prompt. I'm a developer and its the easiest way to get my job done. If i want software installed i tend to grab the sources and install it myself. In this case, choice is a good thing.
Limited choice can also be a good thing. Look a Mac OS X. You get Aqua. no questions asked. And everyone seems to love it.
But remember that a user who uses OS X is a completely different person to one who demands choice. A OS X user needs things to "just work", and it is this target user that UserLinux is going after i believe.
Now this approach is far too restrictive for people like you or I. We're quite happy to poke around, getting things just right. If we were inclined, we could argue that its one of our fundamental human rights...
But remember harry homeowner. He just wants to turn on and read his email, surf the net and do his work. He's not interested in choosing a desktop or editing his muttrc. Harry doesn't understand the distinction between kernel,OS,windowing system and desktop, and neither *should* he understand it. His computer is simply a productivity tool that just works.
Think of it like a car. I own a car, but understand little about how it works other than the basics. I'm not interested in the finer details of the engine. I just need to get from A to B.
UserLinux is simply trying to fill the "from A to B" gap in the market.
Of course, this is all based on my limited (mis-)understanding of the UserLinux manifesto.
UserLinux is about a stable, usable business desktop (AFAIK). it is *not* about choice. The are plenty of other distros that cater for choice.
Including both or more would dilute development efforts, not to mention confuse Harry Homeowner, who is only interested in writing docs, and playing MP3s.
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Very enlightening. Thanks for the reply.
Your sig says your a DBA. What's your prefered RDBMS software? We use MySQL/InnoDB, although that doesn't come across too favourably in some of the articles you point to (although for that matter, neither do any others...)
Agreed. We use mod_perl, and all our logic is implemented as Perl Modules. Web sites are just wrappers around the logic.
We chose this because it eliminated the requirement for the web site. We could quite easily interface in Perl/Tk, command line, or curses etc...and because Perl is just cool.
Obviously Java can be used standalone, not sure about PHP. Can it operate with the presence of a web server?
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Care to elaborate on the "corruption of the relational model" bit? I know little of the relational calculus, but always assumed SQL was just a way of expressing it.
Does anyone know why an official Linux foundation hasn't emerged over the years, similar to GNU/Apache/XFree/Mozilla etc.
It would seem that in circumstances like these, a legally sound body might carry more weight in court (and have funds at its disposal) than, interviews with Linus and comments on LKML.
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i hope not for the sake of his health...
ah, but that's not nearly as much fun as blaming the US Govt, or the New World Order :-)
methinks someone's playing with tesla coils. what happens when the earth voltage goes sky high?? stuff catches fire presumably...
(at least thats what happened at tunguska...)
well, having quickly RTFA, "Pam Dixon, head of the World Privacy Forum", "Richard Smith, formerly at the Privacy Foundation", "The Drudge Report", and depending on who you listen to, "The World and his Dog"
No-one's going to force you to use the system. If you don't trust it, don't use it.
if you think that's perverse
Christ, you sound like a manager
but putting them in the middle of the disk will on average reduce the seek time.
True, but an english newbie will only have to be told once what cd, mkdir, mv and cp stand for and they'll be able to remember it. zk? don't think so.
admittedly, a lot of unix standard command line tools are poorly named, but the article would indicate that the act of typing into a prompt (having a conversation) is much more familiar to newbies than using a gui.
if someone was to take the time to set up some intuitive aliases and compspecs in bash...
Surely though, at it's most basic, Mozilla is a gigantic wad of XML and script that runs in gecko.
So it's not just me who gets a headache during the fight scenes. The camera always seems too close to the action.
Although I really enjoyed "The Frighteners"
I thought Lucas went to school with someone called Vader at school (IIRC), and got the inspiration from there. I'm sure there are the yearbooks online with their pictures, but I can't seem to find them at the moment.
Can't see that being mentioned in Episode III though...
Anyone got any screenshots for this thing?
definitely. he has a job to do and needs to do it as efficiently as possible. joe sixpack just eats peanuts and watches bowling.
Imagine it no more. Straight from the horses mouth..
"Users having a choice is a good thing"
depends on the user...
Personally i don't use a desktop per se. i use enlightenment, and spend the majority of my time at a shell prompt. I'm a developer and its the easiest way to get my job done. If i want software installed i tend to grab the sources and install it myself. In this case, choice is a good thing.
Limited choice can also be a good thing. Look a Mac OS X. You get Aqua. no questions asked. And everyone seems to love it.
But remember that a user who uses OS X is a completely different person to one who demands choice. A OS X user needs things to "just work", and it is this target user that UserLinux is going after i believe.
Now this approach is far too restrictive for people like you or I. We're quite happy to poke around, getting things just right. If we were inclined, we could argue that its one of our fundamental human rights...
But remember harry homeowner. He just wants to turn on and read his email, surf the net and do his work. He's not interested in choosing a desktop or editing his muttrc. Harry doesn't understand the distinction between kernel,OS,windowing system and desktop, and neither *should* he understand it. His computer is simply a productivity tool that just works.
Think of it like a car.
I own a car, but understand little about how it works other than the basics. I'm not interested in the finer details of the engine. I just need to get from A to B.
UserLinux is simply trying to fill the "from A to B" gap in the market.
Of course, this is all based on my limited (mis-)understanding of the UserLinux manifesto.
i disagree
UserLinux is about a stable, usable business desktop (AFAIK). it is *not* about choice. The are plenty of other distros that cater for choice.
Including both or more would dilute development efforts, not to mention confuse Harry Homeowner, who is only interested in writing docs, and playing MP3s.
This definitely a good thing.
Nah. The US and UK already did that with Gulf War II...
similarly i use an md5 of my master password, and the web site/hostname etc.
bit stuck without an md5 generator though...
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Very enlightening. Thanks for the reply.
Your sig says your a DBA. What's your prefered RDBMS software? We use MySQL/InnoDB, although that doesn't come across too favourably in some of the articles you point to (although for that matter, neither do any others...)
Are there any implementations that don't use SQL?
ooops
s/with/without/
Agreed. We use mod_perl, and all our logic is implemented as Perl Modules. Web sites are just wrappers around the logic.
We chose this because it eliminated the requirement for the web site. We could quite easily interface in Perl/Tk, command line, or curses etc...and because Perl is just cool.
Obviously Java can be used standalone, not sure about PHP. Can it operate with the presence of a web server?
Care to elaborate on the "corruption of the relational model" bit? I know little of the relational calculus, but always assumed SQL was just a way of expressing it.
:-)
Please reply, I'm really intruiged
Does anyone know why an official Linux foundation hasn't emerged over the years, similar to GNU/Apache/XFree/Mozilla etc.
It would seem that in circumstances like these, a legally sound body might carry more weight in court (and have funds at its disposal) than, interviews with Linus and comments on LKML.