*ahem* *cough* Need I point out that the propietary "GD-ROM" has not seemed to hurt the Sega Dreamcast at all?
I think the fact that the game cube is so damn small is pretty cool, think of the library of games you can carry around with them only being 8cm in diameter?
Developers can use the C programming language to take advantage of this functionality and create software at a low cost. Based on the foundation of a developer-friendly environment and a system configured with few restrictions, developers can create an unequaled level of entertainment and create the kinds with the kind of depth everyone will want to experience.
And the rest of the site focusing mainly on the "Developer Friendly" atmosphere of the new systems. Maybe Nintendo is looking to tap the extensive community of open source developers to overwhelm the market with games for their consoles?
Actually I did find the morbid NASA jokes when Challenger blew up funny.
Now this doesn't take away from the tragedy at all. Some people simply deal with these situations better with humour. I know I do. And apperantly so do a number of others.
Hell, the military has it's own morbid sense of humour about such things. They call the escape hatches "Mother Hatches", supposedly because only their Mom's believe they can escape from them.
So, yes, they are dead. We are not. They were courages men, regardless of the flag they flew under. Let's not forget that. But for chrissakes, if you can't laugh at tradgedy, what are you going to laugh at? In this real world, light moments are few and far between, if we don't laugh at the dark, we might as well just commit suicide ourselves.
Sure, let Russia just abandon it's military. I'm sure Chechnya(sp) wouldn't mind. Or China for that matter. Hell, why don't we just waltz in and "help" them. No, there are plenty of valid reasons why the Russians need to maintain their military, just as we did during the Depression. You are using the same arguments some people use when they ask why the US still needs it's big military when we could use the money other places. Simple, because if you don't have a nation to rebuild where are you going to put your money?
There are plenty of enemies still out there, and defense is as important ( or more important ) then ever.
I agree tho, it is a sad state, but hopefully they will get through it.
I was thinking the same thing, I wonder if the
last words on the sub were:
" You arrogant ass, you've killed us! "
That's what I thought anyway...
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People keep assuming I'm bashing/., I'm NOT, please read this and this and most importantly this post of mine, it explains my posistion pretty throughly, and I don't want to repeat myself. So don't go off half-cocked thinking you know where I stand.
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You are confusing post with article. This is michael posting an ARTICLE which is different then a user posting a POST ( ie a response to an article ) and it is displayed right dab on the main page. Apperances/are/ important, and having a main story on a front page displaying things about a "mostly clueless" site look BAD, now if it was buried in YRO it would be one thing maybe, or if michael responded to it in a post,/. authours CAN make posts, michael even is posting in this thread.
Of course it's all a matter of opinon i suppose.
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Oh I certainly DO think/. did the right thing, I'm not saying that. And I totally agree with your post 100%, but that line about K5 was..well..uncalled for, even if michael didn't mean it like it sounded.
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Michael,
I understand what you MEANT, I wasn't beating up on you OR/., I just wanted y'all to understand what it SOUNDED like:) specfically the last part: but has at least one seemingly clueful post.
I hope you can see why it might sound like you're talking about the site rather then users.
kuro5hin.org has the obligatory "Slashdot is censoring the story!", postings but has at least one seemingly clueful post
Why did you mention that? There is no point other then to cast K5 in a bad light, a light which is certainly not true. K5 is NOT a/. haters site, if anything it's a compliment to it./. and K5 together make for a very powerful source of news and views. And BECAUSE of their different structures you get two different faces. K5 is what it says "Technology and Culture, from the Trenches" whereas Slashdot is "News for Nerds, Stuff that Matters". K5 is SUPPOSE to be a bit rougher and raw, this is what makes it different, and is not a valid reason for beating up on it. I apologize if this comes out wrong, it just gave me the impression of the school bully picking on the new kid. And for the same reason that the bully picks on the new kid, it came across that maybe/. was getting "worried". It smacked of corpratism, and take note that I am NOT a/. "Big Bad Corp. They sold out" person. But how many times do you see the NYT go " and the Washinginton Post's editoral comments were the usual NYT sucks varity" now granted, it's different worlds, and maybe sometimes they do say something along those lines, but it looks very unprofessional and frankly not very friendly. Mentioning K5 is great, but the tone was very "put offing", specially considering how much slashdot is mentioned on K5 in favourable light, and almost NEVER by a article is it mentioned unfavourable.
Sorry for the rant, I'm going back to enjoying Slashdot AND Kuro5hin now.
Oh yeah, American values. A country founded by rich white lawyers and land owners so they wouldn't have to pay their government their taxes. This is what we (Americans) were from the beginning.
I hate to tell you sonny, but it was alot more then that. It's sad to see where america as gone since it was founded by those great men. Those signer's of the Declaration of Independence signed it knowing that death was almost surely a result. Could you have done it? I doubt it. Hell, I doubt I could. Don't believe that the signers suffered? Read this ( the DrudgeReport always has good links FWIW ). Before you start spouting off and whining about "rich white lawyers and land owners", maybe you should remember that they died and lost their land and fortune so YOU wouldn't be a british SUBJECT. And instead, a free man. Now, if you're not as free as you'd like, blame the people, but NOT the founders.
(Paid for by the Coalition to Point Out to Jon Katz that he is a Soft American.)
actually, i read the book, it's not about hell, it's a love story. Dante' tranversion of all levels of the afterlife to return to his beloved Betrice(sp?). Very good book, Inferno, recommend the entire series, keept me entranced for a whole summer in 10th grade.
Is that speeding in excess of a certain number of Miles Per Hour is in some juristictions a felony. Typically it's between 15-20 over. And many also fail to realize that when you just pay the ticket you're basically "pleading guilty". So if you have a speeding ticket for doing 70mph in a 50mph zone, and you simply pay the ticket ( note that just paying the ticket is really just waiving your rights to a jury trial ) then you've for all intents and purposes been convicted of a felony crime.
Of course, if i'm wrong, i will be corrected:) Note: i may be wrong with the 15-20, in some places it could be lower or much higher. it varies.
Oh, great, wonderful...the MP3 file is now an industry standard for comparision.
THAT IS JUST WRONG
I mean really, their compearying a lossy audio scheme to a probably less lossy ( if at all ) video scheme ( wonder what format it is in, no i haven't read the article )
I'm not proposing anything, maybe i'm cynical, maybe in the end I don't really care. But I don't thing there's alot we/can/ do. Specially not now these things should have been stopped years and years ago. It's probably too late to really turn the tide now. I'd really REALLY like to start an old time internet, maybe come up with new protocols and reimpliment it. Keep it simple and free. But the time of "simple and free" has passed i'm sure. People don't want their local BBSes or FIDONet any more. People don't mind dealing with uncaring ISPs, or ISPs that will shut down your account for setting up your linux machine so you can log in from work. People don't care, and I don't have the money to fight AOL-TimeWarner-MediaOne-AT&T-God-Complex- Mega-Corp-World that I see coming. What do I think we SHOULD do? Protest, go into this world kicking and screaming, don't use the internet. At least the internet they want us to use. I think geeks should start ISG, Internet Service GATEWAYS. They don't Provide damnit, WE PROVIDE the INTERNET. We just need a place to plug ourselves in.
I'm sorry, that was a rant, and it's not directed at you. I guess i'm just disillusioned and scared. And maybe a little worried.
We are getting closer and closer to a world where a very few companies ( and consequently those that run them ) control what we see and what we hear, what we read, and what many of the population believes. This is what George Orwell wrote in 1984, except he thought it was the Government. What he didn't realize is that Big Brother is Big Business. Hell, some would argue that the Government itself is run by the Corperations.
Too bad we're all a bunch of sheep and don't, or won't, actually go out and do anything about it.
Just remember, when you turn on your TV, and it's bland telling you how to be a good citizen.
Just remember, you could have done something about it now, before they took over.
Just remember, when they tell you what god to worship.
Just remember, you could have stopped it now, before the national religion is AOL.
This argument, too, has already been disproven. A COMMERCIAL distrubution CANNOT satisfy Section 3 of the GPL simply by linking to GNU's website. The GPL says this EXPLICITLY in Section 3(c):
Accompany it with the information you received as to the offer to distribute corresponding source code. (This alternative is allowed only for noncommercial distribution and only if you received the program in object code or executable form with such an offer, in accord with Subsection b above.) ( bold is mine )
They need to use sections 3(a) and 3(b) which to paraphrase state: 3a. Put the source code in the distrubution 3b. Make a written offer, good for a min. of 3 years saying you'll give them the source code, at a price no more then it takes to distribute, in a way commonly used for software interchange.
Linking to gnu.org's website falls under 3(c), which is invalid for them, putting source on their site follows 3(b) which is what they need to do. Specially since there is no gaurentee that they have not tampered with source code.
The utilities bc, ci, co, cpio, csplit, dc,diff, diff3, gawk, gzip, gunzip, ident, merge, nl, rcs, rcsdiff, rcsmerge and rlog are covered under the GNU General Public License, here reproduced.
Show me the source code for THOSE programs, and then they will no longer be in violation.
I hope someone moderates that up, it almost brought a tear to my eye.
There is something about holding, smelling, folding a book that the electronic counterparts just cannot replace.
Hell, even in Star Trek II what does Kirk get for his birthday? An old fashioned, bound copy of A Tale of Two Cities ( No information on if it was replicated or not though:) ). So I agree, publish it on paper, then if it is successful, maybe then publish it online.
A lazy, rainy day, a recliner, and an old fashioned bound book, what else comes closer to heaven?
I actually got the register specs and SDK from ATI, so when i have a chance i'm gonna sit down, relearn C, crank open a couple of printed out PDFs and see what I can figures out.
Like...when I have free time ( what's that? ) or sumttin'
Slashdot Mirror
Need I do more then post this link?
*ahem* *cough* Need I point out that the propietary "GD-ROM" has not seemed to hurt the Sega Dreamcast at all?
I think the fact that the game cube is so damn small is pretty cool, think of the library of games you can carry around with them only being 8cm in diameter?
Hrm...this caught my eye:
Developers can use the C programming language to take advantage of this functionality and create software at a low cost. Based on the foundation of a developer-friendly environment and a system configured with few restrictions, developers can create an unequaled level of entertainment and create the kinds with the kind of depth everyone will want to experience.
And the rest of the site focusing mainly on the "Developer Friendly" atmosphere of the new systems. Maybe Nintendo is looking to tap the extensive community of open source developers to overwhelm the market with games for their consoles?
Just a crazy off the wall thought...
Actually I did find the morbid NASA jokes when Challenger blew up funny.
Now this doesn't take away from the tragedy at all. Some people simply deal with these situations better with humour. I know I do. And apperantly so do a number of others.
Hell, the military has it's own morbid sense of humour about such things. They call the escape hatches "Mother Hatches", supposedly because only their Mom's believe they can escape from them.
So, yes, they are dead. We are not. They were courages men, regardless of the flag they flew under. Let's not forget that. But for chrissakes, if you can't laugh at tradgedy, what are you going to laugh at? In this real world, light moments are few and far between, if we don't laugh at the dark, we might as well just commit suicide ourselves.
Sure, let Russia just abandon it's military. I'm sure Chechnya(sp) wouldn't mind. Or China for that matter. Hell, why don't we just waltz in and "help" them. No, there are plenty of valid reasons why the Russians need to maintain their military, just as we did during the Depression. You are using the same arguments some people use when they ask why the US still needs it's big military when we could use the money other places. Simple, because if you don't have a nation to rebuild where are you going to put your money?
There are plenty of enemies still out there, and defense is as important ( or more important ) then ever.
I agree tho, it is a sad state, but hopefully they will get through it.
I was thinking the same thing, I wonder if the
last words on the sub were:
" You arrogant ass, you've killed us! "
That's what I thought anyway...
People keep assuming I'm bashing /., I'm NOT, please read this and this and most importantly this post of mine, it explains my posistion pretty throughly, and I don't want to repeat myself. So don't go off half-cocked thinking you know where I stand.
You are confusing post with article. This is michael posting an ARTICLE which is different then a user posting a POST ( ie a response to an article ) and it is displayed right dab on the main page. Apperances /are/ important, and having a main story on a front page displaying things about a "mostly clueless" site look BAD, now if it was buried in YRO it would be one thing maybe, or if michael responded to it in a post, /. authours CAN make posts, michael even is posting in this thread.
Of course it's all a matter of opinon i suppose.
Oh I certainly DO think /. did the right thing, I'm not saying that. And I totally agree with your post 100%, but that line about K5 was..well..uncalled for, even if michael didn't mean it like it sounded.
Michael,
/., I just wanted y'all to understand :) specfically the last part: but has at least one seemingly clueful post.
I understand what you MEANT, I wasn't beating up
on you OR
what it SOUNDED like
I hope you can see why it might sound like you're talking about the site rather then users.
kuro5hin.org has the obligatory "Slashdot is censoring the story!", postings but has at least one seemingly clueful post
/. haters site, if anything it's a compliment to it. /. and K5 together make for a very powerful source of news and views. And BECAUSE of their different structures you get two different faces. K5 is what it says "Technology and Culture, from the Trenches" whereas Slashdot is "News for Nerds, Stuff that Matters". K5 is SUPPOSE to be a bit rougher and raw, this is what makes it different, and is not a valid reason for beating up on it. I apologize if this comes out wrong, it just gave me the impression of the school bully picking on the new kid. And for the same reason that the bully picks on the new kid, it came across that maybe /. was getting "worried". It smacked of corpratism, and take note that I am NOT a /. "Big Bad Corp. They sold out" person. But how many times do you see the NYT go " and the Washinginton Post's editoral comments were the usual NYT sucks varity" now granted, it's different worlds, and maybe sometimes they do say something along those lines, but it looks very unprofessional and frankly not very friendly. Mentioning K5 is great, but the tone was very "put offing", specially considering how much slashdot is mentioned on K5 in favourable light, and almost NEVER by a article is it mentioned unfavourable.
Why did you mention that? There is no point other then to cast K5 in a bad light, a light which is certainly not true. K5 is NOT a
Sorry for the rant, I'm going back to enjoying Slashdot AND Kuro5hin now.
Oh yeah, American values. A country founded by rich white lawyers and land owners so they wouldn't have to pay their government their taxes. This is what we (Americans) were from the beginning.
:)
I hate to tell you sonny, but it was alot more then that. It's sad to see where america as gone since it was founded by those great men. Those signer's of the Declaration of Independence signed it knowing that death was almost surely a result. Could you have done it? I doubt it. Hell, I doubt I could. Don't believe that the signers suffered? Read this ( the DrudgeReport always has good links FWIW ). Before you start spouting off and whining about "rich white lawyers and land owners", maybe you should remember that they died and lost their land and fortune so YOU wouldn't be a british SUBJECT. And instead, a free man. Now, if you're not as free as you'd like, blame the people, but NOT the founders.
(Paid for by the Coalition to Point Out to Jon Katz that he is a Soft American.)
Okay, I agree with that
actually, i read the book, it's not about hell, it's a love story. Dante' tranversion of all levels of the afterlife to return to his beloved Betrice(sp?). Very good book, Inferno, recommend the entire series, keept me entranced for a whole summer in 10th grade.
Is that speeding in excess of a certain number of Miles Per Hour is in some juristictions a felony. Typically it's between 15-20 over. And many also fail to realize that when you just pay the ticket you're basically "pleading guilty". So if you have a speeding ticket for doing 70mph in a 50mph zone, and you simply pay the ticket ( note that just paying the ticket is really just waiving your rights to a jury trial ) then you've for all intents and purposes been convicted of a felony crime.
:) Note: i may be wrong with the 15-20, in some places it could be lower or much higher. it varies.
Of course, if i'm wrong, i will be corrected
I don't know...maybe just say 50 gigs? How about
:)
something like...that's 5 times the size of most
consumer HDs ( figure 10gig is standard right now )
something, it's just....MP3 isn't the end all
be all of everything. It's like...hrm...if i
say MP3 i'll sound cool. *shrugs*
I'm in a ranting mood today
Oh, great, wonderful...the MP3 file is now an industry standard for comparision.
THAT IS JUST WRONG
I mean really, their compearying a lossy audio
scheme to a probably less lossy ( if at all )
video scheme ( wonder what format it is in, no
i haven't read the article )
Ucky.
I'm not proposing anything, maybe i'm cynical, /can/ do. Specially not now
maybe in the end I don't really care. But I don't
thing there's alot we
these things should have been stopped years and
years ago. It's probably too late to really turn
the tide now. I'd really REALLY like to start
an old time internet, maybe come up with new
protocols and reimpliment it. Keep it simple and
free. But the time of "simple and free" has
passed i'm sure. People don't want their local
BBSes or FIDONet any more. People don't mind
dealing with uncaring ISPs, or ISPs that will
shut down your account for setting up your
linux machine so you can log in from work.
People don't care, and I don't have the money
to fight AOL-TimeWarner-MediaOne-AT&T-God-Complex-
Mega-Corp-World that I see coming. What do I
think we SHOULD do? Protest, go into this world
kicking and screaming, don't use the internet.
At least the internet they want us to use. I
think geeks should start ISG, Internet Service
GATEWAYS. They don't Provide damnit, WE PROVIDE
the INTERNET. We just need a place to plug
ourselves in.
I'm sorry, that was a rant, and it's not directed
at you. I guess i'm just disillusioned and scared.
And maybe a little worried.
We are getting closer and closer to a world where
a very few companies ( and consequently those that
run them ) control what we see and what we hear,
what we read, and what many of the population
believes. This is what George Orwell wrote in
1984, except he thought it was the Government.
What he didn't realize is that Big Brother is
Big Business. Hell, some would argue that the
Government itself is run by the Corperations.
Too bad we're all a bunch of sheep and don't,
or won't, actually go out and do anything about it.
Just remember, when you turn on your TV, and it's
bland telling you how to be a good citizen.
Just remember, you could have done something about
it now, before they took over.
Just remember, when they tell you what god to
worship.
Just remember, you could have stopped it now,
before the national religion is AOL.
When the revolution comes, where will you be?
This argument, too, has already been disproven. A COMMERCIAL distrubution CANNOT satisfy Section 3 of the GPL simply by linking to GNU's website. The GPL says this EXPLICITLY in Section 3(c):
Accompany it with the information you received as to the offer to distribute corresponding source code. (This alternative is allowed only for noncommercial distribution and only if you received the program in object code or executable form with such an offer, in accord with Subsection b above.) ( bold is mine )
They need to use sections 3(a) and 3(b) which to paraphrase state:
3a. Put the source code in the distrubution
3b. Make a written offer, good for a min. of 3 years saying you'll give them the source code, at a price no more then it takes to distribute, in a way commonly used for software interchange.
Linking to gnu.org's website falls under 3(c), which is invalid for them, putting source on their site follows 3(b) which is what they need to do. Specially since there is no gaurentee that they have not tampered with source code.
It's a common misconception.
Uh, no it's not...
The license specifically reads:
The utilities bc, ci, co, cpio, csplit, dc,diff, diff3, gawk, gzip, gunzip, ident, merge, nl, rcs, rcsdiff, rcsmerge and rlog are covered under the GNU General Public License, here reproduced.
Show me the source code for THOSE programs, and then they will no longer be in violation.
I was wondering that myself...
,etc...
wouldn't beating plows into ploughshares be considered abuse?
Kinda like saying the sword is mighter then the broadsword.
or that there is no spoon no spoon, etc
I hope someone moderates that up, it almost brought a tear to my eye.
:) ). So I agree, publish it on paper, then if it is successful, maybe then publish it online.
There is something about holding, smelling, folding a book that the electronic counterparts just cannot replace.
Hell, even in Star Trek II what does Kirk get for his birthday? An old fashioned, bound copy of A Tale of Two Cities ( No information on if it was replicated or not though
A lazy, rainy day, a recliner, and an old fashioned bound book, what else comes closer to heaven?
Eh, it's been way too many years....I was able to write hello world without any errors straight from memory though :)
:) *Unmaskable interrupt*
as for free time...my g/f might have a say in that as well
I will do that, thanks!
I actually got the register specs and SDK from ATI, so when i have a chance i'm gonna sit down, relearn C, crank open a couple of printed out PDFs and see what I can figures out.
Like...when I have free time ( what's that? ) or sumttin'