Sounds expensive for students who are already paying for their service to begin with. All universities should check into rule based real-time traffic shaping (like Packeteer, Netscreen, even Cisco CCS). These implementations allow for the squeezing of certain traffic when others types are given precedence. So, if a stupdent wants to make a call on their IP phone or FTP homework from a specified FTP server on campus the P2P traffic gets sqeezed out until the network is congestion free. If the university does not want to seem like its encouraging P2P then it should be agnostic to all traffic types (with exception to attacks). I don't like adding bills to people who aren't usually working anyway.
I have a general problem with draconian measures that many institutions implement. If the bandwidth is available (i.e. it is not being used) then it should be made available. There are many tools that allow flexible real-time traffic shaping. If the network admins were intelligent they would have implemented one of these solutions to make everyone happy. You know its easy to look down on people especially when they are younger. This makes it easy for many (including other young people) to defend such actions by saying that another person's usage of the network isn't valid. That is very sad a short sited.
Head-end DOCSIS routers are more than capable of bandwidth allocation. That aside.. it seems many of you don't really "get it" when it comes to bandwidth allocation.
You must think of it in "flows" or established data sessions (UDP\TCP over IP, IPSEC, multicast and more). Each of these sessions can be sqeezed by the provider if they know what they are doing. Many devices allow per session/per user bandwidth allocation. It is simply the matter of having the right equipment. If the cable provider has not already made provisions for this with their equipment it is their fault and they should not charge individual users.
Remember, these cable providers have advertised "on-line all the timewith extremely fast downloads". This tells people that they have every right to use it as they wish. Any other view is really short sighted. If you have a problem solve it don't hurt otherse.
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Sounds expensive for students who are already paying for their service to begin with. All universities should check into rule based real-time traffic shaping (like Packeteer, Netscreen, even Cisco CCS). These implementations allow for the squeezing of certain traffic when others types are given precedence. So, if a stupdent wants to make a call on their IP phone or FTP homework from a specified FTP server on campus the P2P traffic gets sqeezed out until the network is congestion free. If the university does not want to seem like its encouraging P2P then it should be agnostic to all traffic types (with exception to attacks). I don't like adding bills to people who aren't usually working anyway.
I have a general problem with draconian measures that many institutions implement. If the bandwidth is available (i.e. it is not being used) then it should be made available. There are many tools that allow flexible real-time traffic shaping. If the network admins were intelligent they would have implemented one of these solutions to make everyone happy. You know its easy to look down on people especially when they are younger. This makes it easy for many (including other young people) to defend such actions by saying that another person's usage of the network isn't valid. That is very sad a short sited.
Head-end DOCSIS routers are more than capable of bandwidth allocation. That aside .. it seems many of you don't really "get it" when it comes to bandwidth allocation.
You must think of it in "flows" or established data sessions (UDP\TCP over IP, IPSEC, multicast and more). Each of these sessions can be sqeezed by the provider if they know what they are doing. Many devices allow per session/per user bandwidth allocation. It is simply the matter of having the right equipment. If the cable provider has not already made provisions for this with their equipment it is their fault and they should not charge individual users.
Remember, these cable providers have advertised "on-line all the timewith extremely fast downloads". This tells people that they have every right to use it as they wish. Any other view is really short sighted. If you have a problem solve it don't hurt otherse.