Yeah.. wonderfull... You'll be damn rich when you're too old to have real fun with your money. If, by any chance, you don't die before. Don't be so greedy, think of sparing some money for your old days, but don't forget to live when you're still young. That's all...
Hey, would someone point this guy to the "Cathedral and Bazaar" URL. Some people definitely need to read the basics before commenting on open source model.
Basically, the idea behind liberty project is to have an alternative to passport (Sun and MS are not exactly what we may call "friends").
But the liberty Alliance is more open on the identity broker part, and allows one to have multiple ID brokers, or federate a local account with many other ID brokers (those not being linked), like... say : you have an account on slashdot, and you can federate it with your gmail account and your ISP account (i do suppose gmail and your ISP have ID broker services provided -but that's not the the case, is it ?-;-) ) So now, once you have logged in gmail or your ISP, you could decide ot log on slashdot, using either gmail or your ISP (the federated slashdot account being the same).
The liberty concept is more about distributed federation, rather than just doing some big brother stuff. Anyone can implements its ID broker stuff, and federate it's account. It's especially interesting (imho) for firms that have multiple web sites some not even being hosted at the same place, and present them as a uniformed facade (no user would understant why he has to type in 2-3 times it's login/pwd on the -apparently- same web).
Well, they actually do... But project Liberty is about specification, not implementation. Look at sourceId if you'd like some starting point for an implementation. But still, The liberty alliance takes quite a different point of view. Passport and My-Whatever- talk about having a centralized server that would keep your personal data (and spread them around when needed). The Liberty Project is about federating logins: - You create a local account on some server. - You create a local account on a "centralized" server - You federate them.
Now you are able to login in the local server AND the central server, just using your central server login. And you can have multiple server using this central server. You can actually have multiple central server talking to each other also. And you can even federate our account with many "central server" (it's all related to how the server are bound)
The personal data transfer is not the main goal of this project, but is possible and specified (it's SOAP+XML Security related).
I would have loved to hit CTRL-Alt-Suppr to flush down the toilets...
hmm nice.. now get some work done... right now!
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it's been about one month i'm checking red-carpet AND helix-updater to see the gnome 1.4 ximian update,
and still nothing. I'm currently stucked with the beta release
(which was unstable, but i was warned and dont't complain about it).
SOOooo... What the hell are they waiting for a 1.4 release ?
May be they estimate 1.2 to 1.4 leap was not that important,
or feared to have their user disgusted when faced to the hard nautilus reality (too many Mo used for so little functionnalities...
and i don't even bother speaking about slowliness -what about some MozNautilus project... anyone ?-)
actually, you'd be surprised to see how many people speeks french around the world (i'm french and was myself surprised:) !).
Anyway, the most spoken langage in the world is.... Chinese ! Hey Netscape guys, what about a browser for the mass ??
Well, i'm sure you would be surprised of the number.
Slashdot is, IMHO, the #1 information site for Linux people, even foreigners.
Now that's just a little frenchy(froggy ?)'s opinion, take it for what it's worth:).
Hey Rob, what about getting a poll on that subject, or may be display some stats around the geographic repartition of the Slashdot user database?
AFAIK, plex 86 and VMWare are Machine emulator,
not OS emulator. It emulates an x86-like computer on which you can add a new OS.
In that sense, it would be rather Wine in full OS emulation mode that would be impacted by this patents.
Fast fix of http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com/cgi-bin/tra nslate?lp=fr_en&urltext=http://liberatio n.com/multi/actu/semaine990111/art990114d.html
Gouvernenment wants to free cryptology
With the end of the e-comerce meeting, the Minister for the economy and finances announced a lightening of the French law on cryptology.
By Cecile Plet
January 14, 1999
I wish to allow use of cryptology accessible to the greatest number. france have been late on the subject for a long time and wants now, trough the voice of its Minister for the economy and finances, Domenica Strauss-Khan, to lighten the law about crypted communications. With the end of the ecomerce meeting, the minister announced that the government was going to ease "in the few next days" the use of crypted communication. Indeed, nowadays, any unauthorized use of a crypting system to protect its communications is prohibited by the law, except a few cases. This prohibition limits the e-commerce fields, including as well the purchases via Internet as the electronic relations between companies. Hard to send an cost estimation by email when it is known that its direct competitor can possibly intercept it and propose a less expensive estimation. With softening its regulation, France should cancel the delay it has in this field on many countries. None of its European neighbors is concerned with this type of prohibition. Liberalization? Until today, the police forces and especially the army slowed down by any means in order to avoid this authorization. Until 1996, any person crypting documents or phone commications had first to obtain an authorization ( for being allowed to use crypting software) from the Central Service for the Secure Information Systems. Any people or companies coding documents without authorization were liable to a fine from 6000 to 500 000 FF (1 buck is about 5FF) and to a prison sentence from 2 months and up to 6. Today, some crypting software are authorized in France, assuming that that they use a key the authorities can easily break, and that scandalizes many Net surfers: we are at the mercy of the " large ears ", told one of them. This breaks private life rights and respect. And then we step on the largest debate set by the rise of the Internet. How to make the protection of private life and security coexist ? If one wants to encrypt an email for his/her grandmother in a "breakproof" way, or more seriously if a company want to exchange confidential datas with another, nothing prevents a terrorist organization to make the same thing. The militants for the cryptology reply that anyway, such organization surely did not wait to be certified to encrypt their documents to bypass the security controls. On the other hand, the transparency pro reply that this is not a reason to ease their task... But when the two sides are to buy on the Internet, they both require their credit card number to be crypted.
I've read in some press issue that the Y2K effect would last until 2005 or so. it was told that the main application would be ported for the 1st January 2000 but the second hand application would have to wait and work blindly after the date. moreover, we european people (i'm french) will have another meeting in year 2001 where all the cuurencies will have to definitely disappear for the Euro.
In France, we are said to lack about 10K engineer, and i only know of about 5 french schools that have a real strong course in computer science (Nope, knowing how to reverse a string in basic or C or whatever doesn't make an engineer of ya... sigh...). each of the school makes from 100 up to 500 engineer a year (150 is, IMHO, the average).
Oh well, anyhow, no one need to know how to programm to do cobol stuff:)
Slashdot Mirror
Yeah.. wonderfull...
You'll be damn rich when you're too old to have real fun with your money. If, by any chance, you don't die before.
Don't be so greedy, think of sparing some money for your old days, but don't forget to live when you're still young.
That's all...
Hey, would someone point this guy to the "Cathedral and Bazaar" URL.
Some people definitely need to read the basics before commenting on open source model.
Basically, the idea behind liberty project is to have an alternative to passport (Sun and MS are not exactly what we may call "friends").
;-) )
But the liberty Alliance is more open on the identity broker part, and allows one to have multiple ID brokers, or federate a local account with many other ID brokers (those not being linked), like... say : you have an account on slashdot, and you can federate it with your gmail account and your ISP account (i do suppose gmail and your ISP have ID broker services provided -but that's not the the case, is it ?-
So now, once you have logged in gmail or your ISP, you could decide ot log on slashdot, using either gmail or your ISP (the federated slashdot account being the same).
The liberty concept is more about distributed federation, rather than just doing some big brother stuff. Anyone can implements its ID broker stuff, and federate it's account. It's especially interesting (imho) for firms that have multiple web sites some not even being hosted at the same place, and present them as a uniformed facade (no user would understant why he has to type in 2-3 times it's login/pwd on the -apparently- same web).
Well, they actually do... But project Liberty is about specification, not implementation. Look at sourceId if you'd like some starting point for an implementation. :
But still, The liberty alliance takes quite a different point of view. Passport and My-Whatever- talk about having a centralized server that would keep your personal data (and spread them around when needed).
The Liberty Project is about federating logins
- You create a local account on some server.
- You create a local account on a "centralized" server
- You federate them.
Now you are able to login in the local server AND the central server, just using your central server login.
And you can have multiple server using this central server. You can actually have multiple central server talking to each other also. And you can even federate our account with many "central server" (it's all related to how the server are bound)
The personal data transfer is not the main goal of this project, but is possible and specified (it's SOAP+XML Security related).
Who ever decided there should be no bacteria in the cheese ? You know, if there's none of those, the cheese has no taste...
I would have loved to hit CTRL-Alt-Suppr to flush down the toilets...
it's been about one month i'm checking red-carpet AND helix-updater to see the gnome 1.4 ximian update,
and still nothing. I'm currently stucked with the beta release
(which was unstable, but i was warned and dont't complain about it).
SOOooo... What the hell are they waiting for a 1.4 release ?
May be they estimate 1.2 to 1.4 leap was not that important,
or feared to have their user disgusted when faced to the hard nautilus reality (too many Mo used for so little functionnalities...
and i don't even bother speaking about slowliness -what about some MozNautilus project... anyone ?-)
actually, you'd be surprised to see how many people speeks french around the world (i'm french and was myself surprised :) !).
.... Chinese ! Hey Netscape guys, what about a browser for the mass ??
Anyway, the most spoken langage in the world is
Well, i'm sure you would be surprised of the number. :).
Slashdot is, IMHO, the #1 information site for Linux people, even foreigners.
Now that's just a little frenchy(froggy ?)'s opinion, take it for what it's worth
Hey Rob, what about getting a poll on that subject, or may be display some stats around the geographic repartition of the Slashdot user database?
AFAIK, plex 86 and VMWare are Machine emulator,
not OS emulator. It emulates an x86-like computer on which you can add a new OS.
In that sense, it would be rather Wine in full OS emulation mode that would be impacted by this patents.
seems you whine too fast for the slashdot poster...
This story is the next in raw !!
It only eluded the slashdot effect for 10 mn or so...
Next time , try to put the " in the hostname, you'll gain the 404 errors hit !!
it discourrages mouse click-addict.
oh come on, copy/paste is the worst feature ever implemented for any developer...
It duplicates code !!
j/k
Those ATM should have a CTRL-ALT-SUP brand red new button you can bash onto when you don't get enough cash... definitely :)))
Fast fix of http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com/cgi-bin/tra nslate?lp=fr_en&urltext=http://liberatio n.com/multi/actu/semaine990111/art990114d.html
Gouvernenment wants to free cryptology
With the end of the e-comerce meeting, the Minister for the
economy and finances announced a lightening of the French
law on cryptology.
By Cecile Plet
January 14, 1999
I wish to allow use of cryptology accessible to the greatest
number. france have been late on the subject for a long time and wants now, trough the voice of its Minister for the economy
and finances, Domenica Strauss-Khan, to lighten the law about crypted communications. With the end of the ecomerce meeting, the minister
announced that the government was going to ease "in the few next days" the use of crypted communication. Indeed, nowadays, any unauthorized use
of a crypting system to protect its communications is prohibited by the law, except a few cases. This prohibition limits the e-commerce fields,
including as well the purchases via Internet as the electronic relations between companies. Hard to send an cost estimation by email when it is known
that its direct competitor can possibly intercept it and propose a less expensive estimation. With softening its regulation, France should cancel the
delay it has in this field on many countries. None of its European neighbors is concerned with this type of prohibition. Liberalization? Until today, the
police forces and especially the army slowed down by any means in order to avoid this authorization. Until 1996, any person crypting documents or
phone commications had first to obtain an authorization ( for being allowed to use crypting software) from the Central Service for the Secure
Information Systems. Any people or companies coding documents without authorization were liable to a fine from 6000 to 500 000 FF (1 buck is
about 5FF) and to a prison sentence from 2 months and up to 6. Today, some crypting software are authorized in France, assuming that that they use
a key the authorities can easily break, and that scandalizes many Net surfers: we are at the mercy of the " large ears ", told one of them. This breaks
private life rights and respect. And then we step on the largest debate set by the rise of the Internet. How to make the protection of private life and
security coexist ? If one wants to encrypt an email for his/her grandmother in a "breakproof" way, or more seriously if a company want to exchange
confidential datas with another, nothing prevents a terrorist organization to make the same thing. The militants for the cryptology reply that anyway,
such organization surely did not wait to be certified to encrypt their documents to bypass the security controls. On the other hand, the transparency
pro reply that this is not a reason to ease their task... But when the two sides are to buy on the Internet, they both require their credit card number to
be crypted.
I've read in some press issue that the Y2K effect would last until 2005 or so. it was told that the main application would be ported for the 1st January 2000 but the second hand application would have to wait and work blindly after the date. moreover, we european people (i'm french) will have another meeting in year 2001 where all the cuurencies will have to definitely disappear for the Euro.
:)
In France, we are said to lack about 10K engineer, and i only know of about 5 french schools that have a real strong course in computer science (Nope, knowing how to reverse a string in basic or C or whatever doesn't make an engineer of ya... sigh...). each of the school makes from 100 up to 500 engineer a year (150 is, IMHO, the average).
Oh well, anyhow, no one need to know how to programm to do cobol stuff