"Records for arrests, etc when you are under the age of 18 (assuming that you are not emancipated before that age or that you're not tried as an adult) are *supposed* to be either sealed or expunged after you reach adulthood."
Interesting.. I do know that a friend of mine was turned away at the border when we were heading south to do some shopping while our dollar was really low. This was because of a drug conviction that he suffered when he was 15.
We were under the impression that our records were destroyed when we turned 18. Apparently now a days the US gets access to those records, and we have to file a bunch of paperwork to have those records sealed down there as well. This was pre-9/11 too, so it's not some new anti terrorism deal, just an anti-tourism one. We were told that since marijuana possesion is a felony in the US, they didn't have to do it automatically, and there would likely be lawyer fees involved.
Being the jerks we are, and thirsty for cheap US booze, we shipped him back to Calgary on the bus. I haven't been back since though.
"Our prisons are overflowing because of the War on Some Drugs."
I can see how that fits in to the category of revenge too. It is prohibition that brought about the flourishing illicit drug trade, and the ignorance of its causes don't help things. Now its become a matter of us-vs-them, and people have an attitude of wanting to punish its victims. Very evil and sad indeed.
"Funny thing is the same thing is said for violating a school's drug policy or violence policy. And I'd fully expect criminal charges in either of those cases."
They're kids. Man am I glad I wasn't born there. Am I the only one who had a very different outlook on life when I was a teenager? What is the purpose of scarring their permanent record or worse jail time? So that they can grow up to be professional criminals?
"Apparently they are relying on the fact of the lack of (not the 'inability to create') viruses for the Mac OS as their safe guard against this problem..."
This was likely told to them by the sales rep. I worked at a school division here which will remain nameless, and this was widely believed to be true. I spent hours upon hours attempting to convince our admin of this, but alas I was just a junior.
"Perhaps, but Firefox users can "fix-it" by using an extension called NoScript"
It's actually easier than that. In preferences you'll find an option to 'open new windows from links in', and a sub option for 'new tab'. This corrects the problem, and the injection occurs in a new tab instead of in the MSDN window.
No it hasn't. This is an update of the same vulnerability using MSDN this time (conspiracy theorists get your engines started). If you follow the instructions it will inject into the frame.
Also note:
Exploitation can easily be made "automatic". However, since this example only serves as a test to give users an understanding of how it works, we have chosen not to do so.
By 6 p.m. on Tuesday, the 27 members of the Senate Appropriations Committee received more than 11,000 emails and faxes. That's nearly 500 faxes an hour. Dianne Feinstein alone received more than 2,600 messages in her inbox. Kay Hutchison, the senior senator for Texas, received 1,441 letters.
Good job guys. I wish people in Canada were that passionate about their government.
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"Records for arrests, etc when you are under the age of 18 (assuming that you are not emancipated before that age or that you're not tried as an adult) are *supposed* to be either sealed or expunged after you reach adulthood."
Interesting.. I do know that a friend of mine was turned away at the border when we were heading south to do some shopping while our dollar was really low. This was because of a drug conviction that he suffered when he was 15.
We were under the impression that our records were destroyed when we turned 18. Apparently now a days the US gets access to those records, and we have to file a bunch of paperwork to have those records sealed down there as well. This was pre-9/11 too, so it's not some new anti terrorism deal, just an anti-tourism one. We were told that since marijuana possesion is a felony in the US, they didn't have to do it automatically, and there would likely be lawyer fees involved.
Being the jerks we are, and thirsty for cheap US booze, we shipped him back to Calgary on the bus. I haven't been back since though.
"And even if they were, their records are "wiped clean" after they turn 18."
For felony convictions as well? Aren't drug offenses a felony down there?
I honestly don't know, but I've heard that is the case. Thanks for correcting me if not.
That's funny, I've sent 4 out now, and got an invite back for each one within a couple hours.
Why don't they just open the damn thing already?
Hahaha. The hits just keep coming.
;)
Got your own HBO special yet?
Hahahahah!
Half Baked is one of the best movies of all time.
Nicely done.
Bravo. Hypocrisy is great isn't it?
GTG, coffee's ready.
"that is, of course, when i'm not posting on slashdot :)"
Hahahah, I can relate. I just try to get things done while keeping tabs on Slashdot. Time for a 12 step program I think though.. I'm hooked damnit.
"Our prisons are overflowing because of the War on Some Drugs."
I can see how that fits in to the category of revenge too. It is prohibition that brought about the flourishing illicit drug trade, and the ignorance of its causes don't help things. Now its become a matter of us-vs-them, and people have an attitude of wanting to punish its victims. Very evil and sad indeed.
"Not at all. The purpose of prison is punishment. It's getting the criminal out of society and forcing them to pay their debt to society."
So revenge is the goal? Yikes. No wonder your prisons are overflowing.
"Funny thing is the same thing is said for violating a school's drug policy or violence policy. And I'd fully expect criminal charges in either of those cases."
They're kids. Man am I glad I wasn't born there. Am I the only one who had a very different outlook on life when I was a teenager? What is the purpose of scarring their permanent record or worse jail time? So that they can grow up to be professional criminals?
"What a bunch of bullshit this is."
Especially since the "purpose" of prison is supposed to be to reform the offender. Kind of puts that in perspective.
"Apparently they are relying on the fact of the lack of (not the 'inability to create') viruses for the Mac OS as their safe guard against this problem..."
This was likely told to them by the sales rep. I worked at a school division here which will remain nameless, and this was widely believed to be true. I spent hours upon hours attempting to convince our admin of this, but alas I was just a junior.
"Perhaps, but Firefox users can "fix-it" by using an extension called NoScript"
It's actually easier than that. In preferences you'll find an option to 'open new windows from links in', and a sub option for 'new tab'. This corrects the problem, and the injection occurs in a new tab instead of in the MSDN window.
"Since when did Wikipedia stop being an encyclopedia and became a directory for music lyrics and reviews?"
Wiki knows all.. Quiet down before it finds out what a jerk you can be.
Laugh, its a joke and its Friday. (It is here anyway)
"/me gets started on the Rhythmbox patches."
Then quickly discovers it already does this using Allmusic
Excellent point. I'm not a KDE user, but this is an awesome idea.
/me gets started on the Rhythmbox patches.
"Yes, great unbiased source, that."
Unbiased? It's a Mozilla PR page. They are biased.
No it hasn't. This is an update of the same vulnerability using MSDN this time (conspiracy theorists get your engines started). If you follow the instructions it will inject into the frame.
Also note:
I was kidding by the way.. This best browser stuff gets pretty silly sometimes.
"I thought Linux Zealots were bad"
Really? I think we are pretty good for the most part.
"So they kind of lied, and wouldn't Opera would be vulnerable if the user has Java installed?"
Opera? Lie?. Nah, couldn't be.
"Isn't this a dupe from half a year ago?"
These things have a way of creeping back up on us.
The frame injection vulnerability seems to have reemerged as well.
Deer Park is vulnerable, as is Firefox & Mozilla. Eeeeeek!
Sorry, I meant to link to that quote.
Good job guys. I wish people in Canada were that passionate about their government.
At least your senators know whats going to happen the next time someone pulls this crap.