I think the GP meant that Alcohol is more responsible for societal problems than marijuana is.
Could be, I wasn't sure.
In Saskatchewan, for example, most liquor sales are handled through government-run liquor board stores. Provincially it would be suicide for a party to close all of these stores.
Interestingly enough, according to this morning's paper, our government (Manitoba) is so worried about cheap beer eroding their tax revenue that they are now passing legislation to raise the minimum price that the monopoly is allowed to charge for beer.
These fucking hypocrites are the biggest drug pushers around.
Civil disobedience encompasses the active refusal to obey certain laws, demands and commands of a government or of an occupying power without resorting to physical violence.
If it matters though, I have been arrested for smoking pot, though I've never been to jail, never paid a fine for it, and I do not have a criminal record.
No your not, that is the point, I am the one paying for it when you can't handle your addiction, or when you breed a bunch of kids so you can get more money on welfare after you lose your job.
Do you have any statistics to back that up? Because Narcotics Anonymous does not accept money from outside of its membership. The leading cause of people going on welfare is divorce. And I have no idea why think pot usage will lead to me losing my job. How many people reading this have ever called in sick with a 40oz flu? I've never ever missed work because I smoked too many joints the night before. Ever.
You are the victim of a somewhat popular misconception. The statistics tell a very different story.
Bittorrent is also the fastest way to download Knoppix. I can never find a mirror that provides over 100kB/s, but through Bittorrent I get 650kB/s (My ISP's limit, not Bittorrent's) within seconds of adding.
I don't agree with that, but Canada is still the 'Little Brother'.
Thats what I thought about Bush's missile defense plan. But thankfully cooler heads prevailed on that one, and we just pretty much ignored the rantings from politicians to the south about us "giving up our sovereignty".
It's wise to respect that, and accept the fact that now, you won't get jail time for a joint.
I think the danger of the decrimilization legislation is that it does the exact opposite of what should be done. All it does is reenforce that the black market is the place to buy from. I would support legislation to legalize cultivation for your own personal use, and crack down heavily on anyone who sells it, or even brings it outside of their home.
Its a much better solution to taking the profit motive out of the drug trade. It would also remove the dangerous activity of bypassing the power companies meters in order to not red flag yourself as a potential grow op (that is very common practice among marijuana growers). Many of them build their own aparatus without any knowledge of proper grounding, or heat dissipation. If it were legal, you could have an electrician inspect your set up, which you absolutely cannot do now if you don't feel like going to jail.
Any politician who goes against the demographic of their typical joe voter may be looking for another job next election.
I'd agree with that, except in this case (the first article I linked to) the delegates voted to adopt marijuana legalization as party policy but the party ignored them. The delegates are there to make those decisions, and the party has a duty to listen to them IMHO.
I'd assume it is the cost... they can't make enough money to offset the other costs.
I'm not sure if that was intended to be funny, or just an ignorant assumption.
Most likely health care, and truencies from work, as well as an extra burden on the social assistance network
First there needs to be some correlation between those things and marijuana use.
But Alcohol is probably more responsible than marijuana is
What?? I have no idea what you mean by that. Have you ever seen anyone get violent after smoking too many joints? I've seen it plenty of times with booze.
the problem is, alcohol has been legal too long, they can't make it illegal... but I bet if they could, they would.
You need a lesson in history I think. They tried that once already you know..
so you're all pissed off because the people in power have decided a certain substance is illegal? Or are you pissed off because you're too worried about the consequences of doing the right thing and getting your substance of choice in a non-criminal supporting way?
Nope, I'm pissed off because there is NO way to get that certain substance "in a non-criminal supporting way".
The issue isn't so much that I have to purchase weed from thugs, because I don't. I know the people I buy from, and the people they buy from. They're upstanding citizens for the most part. The problem is that the black market is flourishing, and it is the cause of the problems, not the drug.
all the laws are there to either protect life, or to make money
So which category does marijuana prohibition fall under? The bad laws are the *reason* people are losing their lives. They don't protect the children as many people claim. It's far easier for children to buy drugs than it is to find an adult to buy cigarettes, or alcohol. At least that was my experience as a teenager.
the government will make it illegal, thus you will have to deal with that reality.
Yep. And I choose civil disobedience in this case.
Or, if you are so dependent on the drug, or just like it soooo damned much, grow your own. Stop supporting the underground.
The stupid thing is, the penalties for cultivation are much more severe than for posession. It should be the opposite, for exactly this reason.
I'm sick and tired of people claiming that it's the government's fault they have to support the black market/criminals to get their substance/product of choice.
And I'm sick and tired of people telling me that I don't have the right to do what I want, when I'm the one who will have to deal with the consequences.
It's your fault, take responsibility for your actions.
If only that weren't the case, I'd be able to buy my weed at 7-11 by now, instead of helping support the underground market. It's fucking rediculous that marijuana legalization continues to be debated while my only option is to purchase from people like this.
If someone said FBI's job is to catch the terrorists, the terrorists' job is to nuke New York, would he feel the terrorists are just doing their job or that they're bad guys?
If the US kills 100,000+ people in the name of liberation, are they just doing their job? Some say yes, I say they're all terrorists. Depends who you ask I guess.
Either Gnome should use a Gnome-independent network audio standard, or it should just leave the mixing to the kernel. There is no need for Gnome to invent and use its own sound daemon.
Are you referring to esound when you say 'invent and use its own sound daemon'? That's exactly what the KDE crew did with artsd though.
The only option is transgaming, which *might* work and costs money.
Not so. Most games that work with Cedega, also work with plain-old-wine, with the help of a no-cd crack which can be found quite easily and doesn't cost a penny.
I think these bounty type ideas could work very well in a university setting, where teams would register with Novell or whoever, and compete against teams from other schools for prizes. If the schools were to receive the money, and the students involved would get a small break on tuition or something, this would be a great way to bring new/fresh developers into the community, and the schools would do most of the work of getting people involved. Also it would be a great way for Novell, RedHat, and others to spot new talent, and for students to have their talents recognized.
Obviously it would be very difficult to come up with a fair system to score points, but I think the model would work much better than offering bounties to people who are already familiar with open source. Perhaps a panel of judges could be assembled with representatives from the major distro's, and larger companies who are using Linux on the desktop.
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Imagine a beowulf cluster of Knoppix DVDs.
It's patterns of usage that coincide with optimal gowing conditions that they watch for.
I still fail to see how you qualify.
I guess it's fortunate for me that I don't really care what you see or don't see.
I think the GP meant that Alcohol is more responsible for societal problems than marijuana is.
Could be, I wasn't sure.
In Saskatchewan, for example, most liquor sales are handled through government-run liquor board stores. Provincially it would be suicide for a party to close all of these stores.
Interestingly enough, according to this morning's paper, our government (Manitoba) is so worried about cheap beer eroding their tax revenue that they are now passing legislation to raise the minimum price that the monopoly is allowed to charge for beer.
These fucking hypocrites are the biggest drug pushers around.
If it matters though, I have been arrested for smoking pot, though I've never been to jail, never paid a fine for it, and I do not have a criminal record.
This is probably a better link to the study.
No your not, that is the point, I am the one paying for it when you can't handle your addiction, or when you breed a bunch of kids so you can get more money on welfare after you lose your job.
Do you have any statistics to back that up? Because Narcotics Anonymous does not accept money from outside of its membership. The leading cause of people going on welfare is divorce. And I have no idea why think pot usage will lead to me losing my job. How many people reading this have ever called in sick with a 40oz flu? I've never ever missed work because I smoked too many joints the night before. Ever.
You are the victim of a somewhat popular misconception. The statistics tell a very different story.
Bittorrent is also the fastest way to download Knoppix. I can never find a mirror that provides over 100kB/s, but through Bittorrent I get 650kB/s (My ISP's limit, not Bittorrent's) within seconds of adding.
I don't agree with that, but Canada is still the 'Little Brother'.
Thats what I thought about Bush's missile defense plan. But thankfully cooler heads prevailed on that one, and we just pretty much ignored the rantings from politicians to the south about us "giving up our sovereignty".
It's wise to respect that, and accept the fact that now, you won't get jail time for a joint.
I think the danger of the decrimilization legislation is that it does the exact opposite of what should be done. All it does is reenforce that the black market is the place to buy from. I would support legislation to legalize cultivation for your own personal use, and crack down heavily on anyone who sells it, or even brings it outside of their home.
Its a much better solution to taking the profit motive out of the drug trade. It would also remove the dangerous activity of bypassing the power companies meters in order to not red flag yourself as a potential grow op (that is very common practice among marijuana growers). Many of them build their own aparatus without any knowledge of proper grounding, or heat dissipation. If it were legal, you could have an electrician inspect your set up, which you absolutely cannot do now if you don't feel like going to jail.
Any politician who goes against the demographic of their typical joe voter may be looking for another job next election.
I'd agree with that, except in this case (the first article I linked to) the delegates voted to adopt marijuana legalization as party policy but the party ignored them. The delegates are there to make those decisions, and the party has a duty to listen to them IMHO.
I'd assume it is the cost... they can't make enough money to offset the other costs.
I'm not sure if that was intended to be funny, or just an ignorant assumption.
Most likely health care, and truencies from work, as well as an extra burden on the social assistance network
First there needs to be some correlation between those things and marijuana use.
But Alcohol is probably more responsible than marijuana is
What?? I have no idea what you mean by that. Have you ever seen anyone get violent after smoking too many joints? I've seen it plenty of times with booze.
the problem is, alcohol has been legal too long, they can't make it illegal... but I bet if they could, they would.
You need a lesson in history I think. They tried that once already you know..
so you're all pissed off because the people in power have decided a certain substance is illegal? Or are you pissed off because you're too worried about the consequences of doing the right thing and getting your substance of choice in a non-criminal supporting way?
Nope, I'm pissed off because there is NO way to get that certain substance "in a non-criminal supporting way".
The issue isn't so much that I have to purchase weed from thugs, because I don't. I know the people I buy from, and the people they buy from. They're upstanding citizens for the most part. The problem is that the black market is flourishing, and it is the cause of the problems, not the drug.
all the laws are there to either protect life, or to make money
So which category does marijuana prohibition fall under? The bad laws are the *reason* people are losing their lives. They don't protect the children as many people claim. It's far easier for children to buy drugs than it is to find an adult to buy cigarettes, or alcohol. At least that was my experience as a teenager.
the government will make it illegal, thus you will have to deal with that reality.
Yep. And I choose civil disobedience in this case.
MS wanted $150(US) per copy of their office suite while Corel wanted $40(US) per copy. Do the math.
And OpenOffice.org wants $0. I already did the math. Is there anything Corel does that OOo doesn't?
The stupid thing is, the penalties for cultivation are much more severe than for posession. It should be the opposite, for exactly this reason.
And I'm sick and tired of people telling me that I don't have the right to do what I want, when I'm the one who will have to deal with the consequences.
That's exactly what I'm talking about.
If only that were true.
If only that weren't the case, I'd be able to buy my weed at 7-11 by now, instead of helping support the underground market. It's fucking rediculous that marijuana legalization continues to be debated while my only option is to purchase from people like this.
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See what I mean?
If someone said FBI's job is to catch the terrorists, the terrorists' job is to nuke New York, would he feel the terrorists are just doing their job or that they're bad guys?
If the US kills 100,000+ people in the name of liberation, are they just doing their job? Some say yes, I say they're all terrorists. Depends who you ask I guess.
What contributions of code, exactly?
Lots of them. They are pretty easy to find actually. pick a project and look through its changelog.
Either Gnome should use a Gnome-independent network audio standard, or it should just leave the mixing to the kernel. There is no need for Gnome to invent and use its own sound daemon.
Are you referring to esound when you say 'invent and use its own sound daemon'? That's exactly what the KDE crew did with artsd though.
The only option is transgaming, which *might* work and costs money.
Not so. Most games that work with Cedega, also work with plain-old-wine, with the help of a no-cd crack which can be found quite easily and doesn't cost a penny.
I think these bounty type ideas could work very well in a university setting, where teams would register with Novell or whoever, and compete against teams from other schools for prizes. If the schools were to receive the money, and the students involved would get a small break on tuition or something, this would be a great way to bring new/fresh developers into the community, and the schools would do most of the work of getting people involved. Also it would be a great way for Novell, RedHat, and others to spot new talent, and for students to have their talents recognized.
Obviously it would be very difficult to come up with a fair system to score points, but I think the model would work much better than offering bounties to people who are already familiar with open source. Perhaps a panel of judges could be assembled with representatives from the major distro's, and larger companies who are using Linux on the desktop.
Could something like this work?
Can you give me some examples?
There are several here. Not including the projects RH employees contribute to which they don't host.
I use gentoo kernels on slackware systems.
Really.. I don't even trust Gentoo kernels on Gentoo systems.
I hate hate hate hate hate the Bitstream Vera fonts with a burning passion.
That's okay, I hate people who hate things with burning passion. So now we're even.
See this example: on the left is Bitstream Vera serif, on the right is Georgia, both the same size.
It looks great to me.