Yes, I tend to agree shiny rocks are not the only thing with value.
I'd tend to say all tangible assets have value and partly why we call them assets.
The real problem here is a non-governmental organization posing as a government organization controlling the money supply and murdering presidents such as Lincoln and JFK who try to stop them.
J.P. Morgan and his buddies were part of the ppl running the Fed.
Once you realize they snuck like hyenas to Jekyll Island at night to create it, then you realize why Jackson, Lincoln, and JFK tried to undo it.
"Picture a party of the nation's greatest bankers stealing out of New York on a private railroad car under cover of darkness, stealthily riding hundred[s] of miles South, embarking on a mysterious launch, sneaking onto an island deserted by all but a few servants, living there a full week under such rigid secrecy that the names of not one of them was once mentioned, lest the servants learn the identity and disclose to the world this strangest, most secret expedition in the history of American finance. I am not romancing; I am giving to the world, for the first time, the real story of how the famous Aldrich currency report, the foundation of our new currency system, was written... The utmost secrecy was enjoined upon all. The public must not glean a hint of what was to be done. Senator Aldrich notified each one to go quietly into a private car of which the railroad had received orders to draw up on an unfrequented platform. Off the party set. New York's ubiquitous reporters had been foiled... Nelson (Aldrich) had confided to Henry, Frank, Paul, and Piatt that he was to keep them locked up at Jekyll Island, out of the rest of the world, until they had evolved and compiled a scientific currency system for the United States, the real birth of the present Federal Reserve System, the plan done on Jekyll Island in the conference with Paul, Frank, and Henry... Warburg is the link that binds the Aldrich system and the present system together. He more than any one man has made the system possible as a working reality.[9]"
Well if anyone says tie bit coins to gold/silver keep in mind the current metal certificates are MASSIVELY oversold and fraud has not been charged because nation states are protecting the fraudsters for now.
Several nations have asked for their gold back and are being told "we will return it in a few years", LOL.
In the past the gold and silver was stored with someone that was good in tricking the public to trust them.
They learned that wearing nice suits, making roman looking buildings, having expensive large nice looking desks, and acting snooty made the sheeple trust them.
Sounds a bit like government too now that I think of it, lol.
Honestly most of our society is a confidence game, most of the ppl running the show are similar to con men of old.
Well for awhile money was backed by gold, but the problem is the ppl storing the gold usually are bankers and so we know what level of trust we can put in them.
If the gold was stored and protected by robots with open source code it might work as the element of greed would not be there unless someone hacks the robots.
I think a open camera system and open inventory of the gold would help too, but the current batch of plutocrats and puppet politicians in both parties are hopelessly corrupt, but that is not new either.
The poor man's gold is silver, but before you mess with shiny rocks its best to have your basic 5 survival needs covered in case there is another "Carrington Event" or "Super Volcanic Eruption" such as Yellow stone, Toba, or the other dozen or so Super Volcanoes...
Also the Cumbre Vieja would make one hell of a mess out of the US east coast if it does land slide into the ocean as the lateral rift indicates it might do.
Some nation might decide to point something like stuxnet at our SCADA systems here.
So for these events that have nothing to do with politicians some of us prepare.
My basic 5:
1) self defense ( humans get nasty per history books ) 2) shelter ( make shift shelter can work, if its WW3 know how to do an expedient fallout shelter ) 3) Water ( learn how to find/purify water, carrying it is too heavy ) 4) dried stored food ( volcanic ash makes it hard to farm, same if there is grid failure ) 5) Knowledge ( know all you can about the 1st 4 and that which is relevant for restoring society/order )
Ya it was pretty obvious our government was hijacked when they had the gold seizure in 1933.
I expect them to do that and worse as things continue to fall apart.
A dollar today has the relative value of 2 cents from 1913 when the Fed reserve corporation took the power of money away from the government.
The last president who tried to take that power away from was JFK, and not long after he tried he died.
Same for Lincoln and the Greenback, but they failed with Andrew Jackson as the Assassin's gun failed.
I think "the creature from Jekyll Island" about the Federal Reserve bank which is as federal as federal express should be read by all citizens, but I would not enjoy the result of most ppl realizing what is going on because it might be much like Henry Ford said.
"It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning." ~ Henry Ford
Yeah, at this point the US dollar has "some" protection, but it is being eroded by money printing at the rate of $65 billion a month, another poster mentioned the old $85 billion a month figure.
The inflation rate is gauged differently by different ppl, if you cherry pick what you use you can get a low rate like the government does, but if you use all things, its a fair bit higher then what the govt's figures list.
Warren Buffett read a book after the crash called when money dies, I recommend it as he felt it was worth his time and based on his income his time is worth alot.
It details the Wiemar Hyperinflation event, and good odds that is where we are heading because much of what is being done resembles that situation.
Where Germany was bankrupted by WW1 debts, The US is bankrupted by the Military industrial complex spending as much as the next 25 nations combined, and the welfare state is the 2nd one.
Alot of these costs are inflated a great deal due to middle men taking their cut and basically skimming.
So while the current listed national debt is just shy of $20 trillion, the projected debt in the not too distant future based on what will be required to be paid out is much beyond that.
The thing is some ppl have some evidence this event is planned, and one man wrote a book about it and talks about it online, John Perkins - Confessions of an Economic Hitman.
He says we did this to several nations around the world as a method to loot them, and now the US is in line as the next target. His former boss basically admitted what he said is correct, then recanted after he was likely threatened.
I think what we have is perhaps Crony Capitalism, or Fascism, but if you think this is a free market, then you'd have to remove dozens of monopoly and cartel protecting laws, etc etc....
The sheer volume of paperwork required to run a major corporation now is a tree killing beyond belief, some has been made electronic, and some has not.
In any event companies have had to hire ppl to just do the red tape portion of staying legal with the plutocracy.
Some of this is by design as a barrier to entry to keep competition reduced to benefit the entrenched corporations who own the puppets in DC.
Hopefully they will get the merger of the paper battery, graphene nano tubes, and super capacitors to the point we can 3d print batteries out of carbon and paper...
What you say is true, the best thing you can learn is how to teach yourself.
Learn how to pickup any programming book, and then apply it to real world needs, and make a real world product on a test server.
Make it small scale, and if you are daunted dabble in an open source project out there to get your feet wet, and look at how other good coders do the work.
Emulate the successful, then blaze your own trail when you equal or surpass your mentors.
Hahaha, that is awesome, but some decent coders from Asia will eventually end up here as they gear up over time. As the race for the bottom continues and 100+ different types of immigrant Visa are used all jobs in the US will decline for citizens.
Yes, this is true, desperate ppl will apply for jobs that they are not qualified for.
Good odds some of the "degree'd" ppl got their degree mill as well.
HR is suppose to screen out the unqualified ppl, but some HR departments leave all of that to the tech ppl because the HR department has become ppl who just take care of the benefits portion, and run web spider software to extract resumes from a bevy of job sites.
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Yes, I tend to agree shiny rocks are not the only thing with value.
I'd tend to say all tangible assets have value and partly why we call them assets.
The real problem here is a non-governmental organization posing as a government organization
controlling the money supply and murdering presidents such as Lincoln and JFK who try to stop them.
Yeah just don't try to setup silver certificates to replace the Federal Reserve corporate notes
or you will end up like Lincoln and JFK.
J.P. Morgan and his buddies were part of the ppl running the Fed.
Once you realize they snuck like hyenas to Jekyll Island at night
to create it, then you realize why Jackson, Lincoln, and JFK tried to undo it.
"Picture a party of the nation's greatest bankers stealing out of New York on a private railroad car under cover of darkness, stealthily riding hundred[s] of miles South, embarking on a mysterious launch, sneaking onto an island deserted by all but a few servants, living there a full week under such rigid secrecy that the names of not one of them was once mentioned, lest the servants learn the identity and disclose to the world this strangest, most secret expedition in the history of American finance. I am not romancing; I am giving to the world, for the first time, the real story of how the famous Aldrich currency report, the foundation of our new currency system, was written... The utmost secrecy was enjoined upon all. The public must not glean a hint of what was to be done. Senator Aldrich notified each one to go quietly into a private car of which the railroad had received orders to draw up on an unfrequented platform. Off the party set. New York's ubiquitous reporters had been foiled... Nelson (Aldrich) had confided to Henry, Frank, Paul, and Piatt that he was to keep them locked up at Jekyll Island, out of the rest of the world, until they had evolved and compiled a scientific currency system for the United States, the real birth of the present Federal Reserve System, the plan done on Jekyll Island in the conference with Paul, Frank, and Henry... Warburg is the link that binds the Aldrich system and the present system together. He more than any one man has made the system possible as a working reality.[9]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
What the public is told is what they want the public to believe, not always the truth.
Well if anyone says tie bit coins to gold/silver keep in mind the current metal certificates are
MASSIVELY oversold and fraud has not been charged because nation states are protecting
the fraudsters for now.
Several nations have asked for their gold back and are being told "we will return it in a few years", LOL.
In the past the gold and silver was stored with someone that was good in tricking the public to trust them.
They learned that wearing nice suits, making roman looking buildings, having expensive large nice looking desks,
and acting snooty made the sheeple trust them.
Sounds a bit like government too now that I think of it, lol.
Honestly most of our society is a confidence game, most of the ppl running the show are similar to con men of old.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Well for awhile money was backed by gold, but the problem is the ppl storing the gold
usually are bankers and so we know what level of trust we can put in them.
If the gold was stored and protected by robots with open source code it might work as
the element of greed would not be there unless someone hacks the robots.
I think a open camera system and open inventory of the gold would help too, but the
current batch of plutocrats and puppet politicians in both parties are hopelessly corrupt,
but that is not new either.
So ... in all things .... Caveat Emptor indeed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
The poor man's gold is silver, but before you mess with shiny rocks its
best to have your basic 5 survival needs covered in case there is
another "Carrington Event" or "Super Volcanic Eruption" such as
Yellow stone, Toba, or the other dozen or so Super Volcanoes...
Also the Cumbre Vieja would make one hell of a mess out of the US east coast
if it does land slide into the ocean as the lateral rift indicates it might do.
Some nation might decide to point something like stuxnet at our SCADA systems here.
So for these events that have nothing to do with politicians some of us prepare.
My basic 5:
1) self defense ( humans get nasty per history books )
2) shelter ( make shift shelter can work, if its WW3 know how to do an expedient fallout shelter )
3) Water ( learn how to find/purify water, carrying it is too heavy )
4) dried stored food ( volcanic ash makes it hard to farm, same if there is grid failure )
5) Knowledge ( know all you can about the 1st 4 and that which is relevant for restoring society/order )
2)
Ya it was pretty obvious our government was hijacked when they had the gold seizure in 1933.
I expect them to do that and worse as things continue to fall apart.
A dollar today has the relative value of 2 cents from 1913 when the Fed reserve corporation
took the power of money away from the government.
The last president who tried to take that power away from was JFK, and not long after he tried he died.
Same for Lincoln and the Greenback, but they failed with Andrew Jackson as the Assassin's gun failed.
I think "the creature from Jekyll Island" about the Federal Reserve bank which is as federal as federal express
should be read by all citizens, but I would not enjoy the result of most ppl realizing what is going on because it
might be much like Henry Ford said.
"It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning." ~ Henry Ford
http://www.brainyquote.com/quo...
I trust the value of physical assets, not just "shiny rocks".
I trust the value of a working program the ppl use around the world.
I trust the value of a "well built home" that is near zero-E use.
I trust a reliable car that has statistics to back it up.
Etc, etc... the whole shiny rocks, and ink and paper thing I have
less faith in due to fraud recorded thru history regarding them.
Ppl have put tungsten in gld bars, North Korea was counterfeiting
US $100 bills like it was going out of style.
So I trust that which is tangible, and much harder to fake.
For now they are in the Euro bandwagon, but as the full scope and depth
of what is being done unravels, the Euro will likely fall apart.
There are ppl wanting out now, and its more then one nation at this point.
3 percent...
Correct only % of currency in the US exists in physical form, the rest are "bits" in computers.
Much like .... bit coin...
Good thing no one is tampering with the bit dollars....
http://seekingalpha.com/articl...
Sometimes the media reports what it "wants ppl to think"
I think "operation mockingbird" or a derivative of it is still in effect.
LOL, its funny they have gone up in value as a souvenir.
Yeah the FBI is on it:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/...
Yeah, at this point the US dollar has "some" protection, but it is being eroded by money printing at the rate
of $65 billion a month, another poster mentioned the old $85 billion a month figure.
The inflation rate is gauged differently by different ppl, if you cherry pick what you use you can get a low
rate like the government does, but if you use all things, its a fair bit higher then what the govt's figures list.
Warren Buffett read a book after the crash called when money dies, I recommend it as he felt it was worth his
time and based on his income his time is worth alot.
It details the Wiemar Hyperinflation event, and good odds that is where we are heading because much of
what is being done resembles that situation.
Where Germany was bankrupted by WW1 debts, The US is bankrupted by the Military industrial complex
spending as much as the next 25 nations combined, and the welfare state is the 2nd one.
Alot of these costs are inflated a great deal due to middle men taking their cut and basically skimming.
So while the current listed national debt is just shy of $20 trillion, the projected debt in the not too distant
future based on what will be required to be paid out is much beyond that.
The thing is some ppl have some evidence this event is planned, and one man wrote a book about it
and talks about it online, John Perkins - Confessions of an Economic Hitman.
He says we did this to several nations around the world as a method to loot them, and now the US
is in line as the next target. His former boss basically admitted what he said is correct, then recanted
after he was likely threatened.
The youtube clip is here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...
Yeah they transferred around $32 trillion offshore and oddly the IRS won't touch it.
http://www.democraticundergrou...
I think what we have is perhaps Crony Capitalism, or Fascism,
but if you think this is a free market, then you'd have to remove
dozens of monopoly and cartel protecting laws, etc etc....
The sheer volume of paperwork required to run a major corporation
now is a tree killing beyond belief, some has been made electronic,
and some has not.
In any event companies have had to hire ppl to just do the red tape
portion of staying legal with the plutocracy.
Some of this is by design as a barrier to entry to keep competition
reduced to benefit the entrenched corporations who own the puppets in DC.
Hopefully they will get the merger of the paper battery, graphene nano tubes,
and super capacitors to the point we can 3d print batteries out of carbon
and paper...
http://news.stanford.edu/news/...
1) Fake crisis
2) Cry to paid off politicians
3) Bring in more Visa workers via 100+ immigrant Visas types.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
4) Record Profits !!!
Long live the Kleptocratic states of the Plutocracy.
"I know, you know, but try to convince HR and the PHBs."
Akbar revised, "We can't repel ignorance of that magnitude."
What you say is true, the best thing you can learn is how to teach yourself.
Learn how to pickup any programming book, and then apply it to real world needs,
and make a real world product on a test server.
Make it small scale, and if you are daunted dabble in an open source project out there
to get your feet wet, and look at how other good coders do the work.
Emulate the successful, then blaze your own trail when you equal or surpass your mentors.
Hahaha, that is awesome, but some decent coders from Asia will eventually end
up here as they gear up over time. As the race for the bottom continues and
100+ different types of immigrant Visa are used all jobs in the US will decline for
citizens.
Yeah if they want super coder for the same pay as a manager at Taco Bell, the degree
has lost a bit of its supposed value.
Yes, this is true, desperate ppl will apply for jobs that they are not qualified for.
Good odds some of the "degree'd" ppl got their degree mill as well.
HR is suppose to screen out the unqualified ppl, but some HR departments
leave all of that to the tech ppl because the HR department has become
ppl who just take care of the benefits portion, and run web spider software
to extract resumes from a bevy of job sites.