What is worse is that you are pretending to know something about the subject, and thereby retarding a true discussion.
The "signal ground" is important because there are wires from the power supply that allow the motherboard to control the power supply. That's the "signal". Probably it would be best not to connect those lines to the motherboard, but to install a separate switch for the hard drives.
I'm hoping someone with some experience with this will discuss it.
The question is, can two cheap power supplies be used in standard case? The question is NOT whether you can pay $2000 for special equipment.
Obviously both power supplies would be attached to the case with the standard screws. That would provide a hundreds amps worth of common ground connection. Obviously the black signal ground wires would need to be connected to each other with a small additional wire.
I am a real electronics design engineer. I can't think of any reason why this would not work. It would probably be necessary to shut off the power to the hard drives separately.
There would be a little common mode noise, however this is something that the signal ICs in the hard drives can handle.
I've had really bad experiences with early Silicon Image based controllers. Those Koutech controllers use Silicon Image chipsets. Is Silicon Image better now?
-- George W. Bush's brother was shown in a lawsuit deposition on 20/20 talking about his prostitutes and using government influence to
make money. Family values?
Office Depot had an 18th anniversary sale, and was selling Maxtor 60GB drives for $18 after rebate. Bought three for my personal test machines, and used my friend's addresses for the rebates.
I often hear bad things about Maxtor drives, but after a whole 40 hours use, they haven't failed once.
It seems to me it should be possible to put another power supply in the case and power the extra drives from that. Most modern BIOS versions allow specifying a delay on the hard drive spin-up. Just put the power-on connector in parallel with the main power supply connector. I don't like Antec cases much, or those from any manufacturer, but some full tower Antec cases have room for a second power supply.
But a case with a lot of drives and a motherboard needs a lot of air-moving equipment.
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15 of the 19 9/11 attackers were Saudis. Many don't like the U.S. Gov. influence
on their country.
This is a VERY big issue. We've found that Promise Technology RAID controllers have problems, and the company doesn't give tech. support when the problems are difficult, in our experience.
Benefit the world: A program to show data splits.
on
Short Coding Projects?
·
· Score: 4, Interesting
Here's a simple program that would benefit the whole world:
Make a program that shows what parts of a huge folder fit on individual CDs or DVDs. The output of the program would say, for example, that all the files from sub-folders A to Information would fit on the first CD, and all the files from sub-folders Installers to Netgear would fit on the second CD, and so on.
It is necessary to store backup sub-folders in alphabetical order on the backup CDs or DVDs because then they can be found easily.
Right now there is no good way to decide how to apportion the data. Breaking any file into two pieces just causes problems later, so the Easy CD Creator method does not work well.
Later, it would be excellent if the program made.ISO files, of course, and even more excellent if the program asked the user to insert a CD or DVD, and burned the media.
Who should I believe about Osama bin Laden's ideas and intentions? You or Osama bin Laden?
Who should I believe about Arab feelings? You or the foreign minister of Iran and the King of Jordon, who both agreed with OBL about Arab concerns during recent interviews on the Charlie Rose show?
It's not a video game. Arabs don't like being killed. They will retaliate, and try to kill you, actually kill you, not just make you lose points.
-- George W. Bush's brother was shown in a lawsuit deposition on 20/20 talking about his prostitutes and using government influence to
make money. Family values?
To get votes from Jews in the United States, U.S. politicians go into the Jewish community and declare their "support for Israel". That's code for support for Israeli violence. Many politicians don't care about the morality of their actions. They don't care whether U.S. government support for Israeli violence is actually good for Jews. They just want the vote.
Non-Jewish United States citizens never hear about this support for foreign wars. It isn't a secret; it's on Pataki's web site. But it is effectively a secret, because no one tells U.S. citizens that they are engaging in a war that will definitely cause them to be attacked.
There is a one-sentence record in ancient Jewish texts, that are now part of the Christian Bible, that a Pharoah of Egypt had some complaint against the Jews about 3,200 years ago. Since then, at least every 200 years, the Jews have annoyed the surrounding cultures enough that they have been the targets of extreme violence. Certainly this is regrettable. Certainly something should be done about this. However, there is no evidence that anyone presently in power in the U.S. government has a sophisticated understanding of the problems, or any sensible ideas about how a nation thousands of miles from Israel could be helpful. In fact, it seems that U.S. government support for Jewish violence is like pouring "gasoline on a fire", as one Jewish leader said.
The U.S. government, at present, fully supports the use of violence to achieve its goals. Under George W. Bush, the U.S. government believes that it is okay to kill people and destroy their property even when the U.S. is not directly or immediately threatened.
Most U.S. citizens do not make the connection that a policy of violence supported by the U.S. government means that they will inevitably be attacked.
Quoting from the CNN article, here are some of Osama bin Laden's words: "And as I was looking at those towers that were destroyed in Lebanon [with U.S. government help], it occurred to me that we have to punish the transgressor with the same" he says, "and that we had to destroy the towers in America, so that they taste what we tasted and they stop killing our women and children."
If you live in Kalispell, Montana, USA, to pick a place at random, it is unlikely that you will be directly attacked by Arab terrorists. However, attacks on the U.S. affect you profoundly because they lower your quality of life, just as the U.S. attacks on Iraq lowered the quality of life there.
You said, "... there is a long, long, long list of people who are more
deserving of the credit that Gore would ascribe to himself."
Vint Cerf said that Al Gore deserves unique credit. Back in those
days, which are very difficult to remember now, you had to buy your floppy
disks from a special company, and they really were floppy.
Back then it was the raw, early, ugly days of computing. (Just like it
is now, with one big monopolist and proprietary file formats, and quirky,
partly finished software that wastes your time, like Windows XP SP2.)
Back then, there was no one who had power in the U.S. Congress besides Gore
understood anything technical. It's difficult to remember that now. Back then,
people just did not relate to computing issues. If you knew something about
computing, you were considered socially eccentric.
Back then, the ARPANET was thriving, but it was used by people who
considered themselves privileged, and were privileged, and definitely did not
want to share their privileges.
Back then, DARPA, the U.S. government's Defense Advanced Research Projects
Agency would give ARPANET access to institutions and companies that were part
of the effort to find new and better ways to kill people and destroy their
property. Back then, it was perceived that there were enemies everywhere and
it was important to protect ourselves by waging all war all the time. (Just
like now.) It was called the "Cold" War. The U.S. government killed people,
but the killing had to be a secret from the average citizen.
Back then there was an extremely acrimonious discussion about a
new-fangled idea, the.COM top level domain. The privileged did not want their
utility to be corrupted by crass commercialism. Back then, it was difficult to
get spam. The ARPANET was an organization of gentlemen, who would never cause
problems for each other *cough* Mitnick.
Back then, there were not enough viruses for everyone; we had to
share. Back then systems were mostly not vulnerable, viruses were spread
through the honor system. Okay, that is a joke. It took Microsoft to invent
sloppily coded operating systems that would assure the widespread availability
of viruses. Unfortunately, that is not a joke.
Back then, there was a new-fangled gadget, the Hayes 2400 Baud modem,
which few could afford. There were fears that such high-speed use would cause
problems for the telephone system.
Al Gore had technical knowledge. Al Gore had power in government
because he was a senator and a famous senator's son. He put the full weight of
government behind the idea that just anyone could have access.
Did you ever try to get personal Internet access back in the ARPANET days? You could not. It was a private facility of large public institutions and big companies like Textronix.
Sure, you could shell into your company or government or educational account from home. But if you were just an average person, you could not get an account.
I can't find the email message now because I'm supposed to be working, but
VintCerf told me
that, before Al Gore, the ARPANET was a private utility. Al Gore decided it
should be a public service, and provided considerable support from the U.S.
Congress to turn the ARPANET into the Internet.
Many people did the work. Many people should have some of the credit. But,
according to Vint Cerf, Al Gore was the first public official to decide that
there should be a public utility called the Internet.
It shocks me how little people know about the activities of their
government. It shocks me that, after all this time, people are still believing
the disinformation written by Republican marketing writers.
Don't believe the sound bites, read books. No one who read the more
than 35 books about
the Bush administration would vote for George W. Bush, that is clear.
Even those who read magazines would know more than most U.S. citizens.
For example:
Anyone who uses the words "liberal" and "conservative" shows that he or she is not thinking deeply. Those words are used in so many ways that they have lost their meaning, except as epithets.
Programmers and those who administer complicated computer systems must be logical. If they aren't, they cannot write a working program or troubleshoot problems. If logical people read enough books and gather enough facts, they must come to the conclusion that Bush should not be re-elected.
I could give hundreds of pages of support for this view. For 100 facts, see this well-documented article from The Nation magazine:
Moderators are using their moderation points to make political statements. My parent comment above is not a "Troll". You may disagree, but I am not making trouble. My statements are backed up by 3 movies, 35 books, and a very well-documented article.
There were several books published before and during the Clinton
administration about former U.S. President Bill Clinton. However, the
situation with Clinton and previous presidents was not even remotely
comparable. There are many more books discussing the Bush administration, and
the negative issues are far, far more serious.
Also see this well-documented article from The Nation magazine:
P.S.: I learned about your site from a front-page story on
Slashdot.org.
_______
In past elections, there has been a reason to vote for the other side.
I didn't choose Bob Dole, but if he had been elected, the nation would have
been okay, because Bob Dole is a decent man.
This election is different. It is not a matter of preference. The Bush
Administration is extremely corrupt. Those who vote for Bush are not
well-informed.
An old DEC manual for technical writers said that only 2% of Americans
read non-fiction books not connected with work. That seems correct to me. I
have found that even Slashdot readers, who are more intelligent than most
people, have little knowledge of the activities of their government. Instead,
some of them have picked up and believe Bush campaign lies like "Bush is Christian"
and "Bush will protect us in the war against terrorism".
You have an anger problem, which seems to be true of most Bush supporters. Bush supporters find it very easy to justify killing other people, and don't realize that some of those killed will have family members who will want to retaliate.
"Whether or not we should have gone over there has *nothing* to do with how or why technology failed."
The Navy's super-expensive Aegis system caused the U.S. Navy to shoot down a civilian airliner, remember? The technology failed because the U.S. government system allows high-profit junk technology, paid for with the hard-earned money of U.S. citizens.
It would be possible to give many, many other examples.
Those who are angry and don't know it are easily manipulated.
MODERATORS: Whoever moderated the parent comment as Flamebait is not smart
enough to be called ignorant, he is iggerunt.
The parent comment says, "Support for Israel may be the greatest
cause of our problems." The king of Jordan says this is so. The foreign
minister of Iran says this is so. (They were both interviewed on the Charlie
Rose show.) Osama bin Laden said U.S. government support for Israeli violence
was one of the two reasons he attacked the United States. (The other reason was
U.S. government support for those who are against needed political change in
Saudi Arabia.)
The U.S. government has been supporting the killing of Arabs for many
years now by giving between 3.5 and 5 billion of your tax money to Israel,
every year. There are only 14 million Jews in the entire world. There
are only 4.8 million Jews in Israel. That money is about $1,000 for every man,
woman, child, and baby in Israel who is Jewish, every year.
That money must be used to buy weapons made in the United States, at
inflated prices. I seriously doubt that anyone who is in control of this
policy has anything against Arabs or Jews, or even knows much about their
cultures. It's government corruption, only that, not ideology.
Osama bin Laden says he wants a Muslim-religion-controlled political
coalition. I've studied the matter for years, and I don't think there is much
chance he can achieve that. The violent religious extremists in Muslim
countries are not crazier than the violent religious extremists in the United
States, however. The corruption caused by those who want weapons profits is
supported by some of those who call themselves evangelicals. The evangelicals
have an ugly plan that sounds to me like it might achieve a terrible goal.
They want to kill all the Jews. They don't say that, of course. They don't
take reponsibility for that. They say that their ancient books say that all
the Jews will be killed or converted. Since there is slim chance that Jewish
people would want to be evangelicals, or would be accepted by evangelicals,
they are really saying that all the Jews will be killed. They are helping
their prophecy by encouraging the 14 million Jews to get into bloody battles
with the 1.1 billion Muslims. Experiment: Go into a very poor area of the U.S.
and ask the next 10 street kids you see what they think the outcome of such
battles will be. I will accept whatever they say.
Abba Eban, a respected Jewish leader, said that after World War II
Jews were not welcome in Europe, even though they had suffered a lot. I agree
with that. Some Jewish violent extremists believe that Jews must fight for
their own land because they are not welcome elsewhere. That's not true, of
course; Jews do very well in making contributions to New York. The weapons
makers encourage the Jews in their worst impulses.
Slashdot Mirror
Your behavior is offensive.
What is worse is that you are pretending to know something about the subject, and thereby retarding a true discussion.
The "signal ground" is important because there are wires from the power supply that allow the motherboard to control the power supply. That's the "signal". Probably it would be best not to connect those lines to the motherboard, but to install a separate switch for the hard drives.
I'm hoping someone with some experience with this will discuss it.
Anger problem?
The question is, can two cheap power supplies be used in standard case? The question is NOT whether you can pay $2000 for special equipment.
Obviously both power supplies would be attached to the case with the standard screws. That would provide a hundreds amps worth of common ground connection. Obviously the black signal ground wires would need to be connected to each other with a small additional wire.
I am a real electronics design engineer. I can't think of any reason why this would not work. It would probably be necessary to shut off the power to the hard drives separately.
There would be a little common mode noise, however this is something that the signal ICs in the hard drives can handle.
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24 wars since WW2: Creating fear so rich people can profit.
I've had really bad experiences with early Silicon Image based controllers. Those Koutech controllers use Silicon Image chipsets. Is Silicon Image better now?
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George W. Bush's brother was shown in a lawsuit deposition on 20/20 talking about his prostitutes and using government influence to make money. Family values?
We have good luck with drives. The reason appears to be that we install them with their own fans, so each is individually cooled.
--
100 Facts and 1 Opinion -- The Non-Arguable Case Against the Bush Administration
Office Depot had an 18th anniversary sale, and was selling Maxtor 60GB drives for $18 after rebate. Bought three for my personal test machines, and used my friend's addresses for the rebates.
I often hear bad things about Maxtor drives, but after a whole 40 hours use, they haven't failed once.
And keep all those drives cool; use fans.
It seems to me it should be possible to put another power supply in the case and power the extra drives from that. Most modern BIOS versions allow specifying a delay on the hard drive spin-up. Just put the power-on connector in parallel with the main power supply connector. I don't like Antec cases much, or those from any manufacturer, but some full tower Antec cases have room for a second power supply.
But a case with a lot of drives and a motherboard needs a lot of air-moving equipment.
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15 of the 19 9/11 attackers were Saudis. Many don't like the U.S. Gov. influence on their country.
Is this the definitive article about software RAID under Linux?
Software-RAID HOWTO. In English and HTML: Software-RAID HOWTO.
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Bush borrows money to kill Iraqis. 140 billion borrowed. With interest, you pay 200 billion. When Saudis attack, invade Iraq?
This is a VERY big issue. We've found that Promise Technology RAID controllers have problems, and the company doesn't give tech. support when the problems are difficult, in our experience.
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Government data compares Democrat and Republican economics.
Here's a simple program that would benefit the whole world:
Make a program that shows what parts of a huge folder fit on individual CDs or DVDs. The output of the program would say, for example, that all the files from sub-folders A to Information would fit on the first CD, and all the files from sub-folders Installers to Netgear would fit on the second CD, and so on.
It is necessary to store backup sub-folders in alphabetical order on the backup CDs or DVDs because then they can be found easily.
Right now there is no good way to decide how to apportion the data. Breaking any file into two pieces just causes problems later, so the Easy CD Creator method does not work well.
Later, it would be excellent if the program made
--
100 Facts and 1 Opinion -- The Non-Arguable Case Against the Bush Administration
Who should I believe about Osama bin Laden's ideas and intentions? You or Osama bin Laden?
Who should I believe about Arab feelings? You or the foreign minister of Iran and the King of Jordon, who both agreed with OBL about Arab concerns during recent interviews on the Charlie Rose show?
It's not a video game. Arabs don't like being killed. They will retaliate, and try to kill you, actually kill you, not just make you lose points.
--
George W. Bush's brother was shown in a lawsuit deposition on 20/20 talking about his prostitutes and using government influence to make money. Family values?
I agree with this.
U.S. government policies have made it more likely that Jews will suffer.
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100 Facts and 1 Opinion -- The Non-Arguable Case Against the Bush Administration
You should take bin Laden's statements with the greatest seriousness. In fact, the U.S. government has effectively declared war on Arabs and Muslims. Here is just one example: New York Governor Pataki's statements are equivalent to a declaration of war.
To get votes from Jews in the United States, U.S. politicians go into the Jewish community and declare their "support for Israel". That's code for support for Israeli violence. Many politicians don't care about the morality of their actions. They don't care whether U.S. government support for Israeli violence is actually good for Jews. They just want the vote.
Non-Jewish United States citizens never hear about this support for foreign wars. It isn't a secret; it's on Pataki's web site. But it is effectively a secret, because no one tells U.S. citizens that they are engaging in a war that will definitely cause them to be attacked.
There is a one-sentence record in ancient Jewish texts, that are now part of the Christian Bible, that a Pharoah of Egypt had some complaint against the Jews about 3,200 years ago. Since then, at least every 200 years, the Jews have annoyed the surrounding cultures enough that they have been the targets of extreme violence. Certainly this is regrettable. Certainly something should be done about this. However, there is no evidence that anyone presently in power in the U.S. government has a sophisticated understanding of the problems, or any sensible ideas about how a nation thousands of miles from Israel could be helpful. In fact, it seems that U.S. government support for Jewish violence is like pouring "gasoline on a fire", as one Jewish leader said.
The U.S. government, at present, fully supports the use of violence to achieve its goals. Under George W. Bush, the U.S. government believes that it is okay to kill people and destroy their property even when the U.S. is not directly or immediately threatened.
Most U.S. citizens do not make the connection that a policy of violence supported by the U.S. government means that they will inevitably be attacked.
Quoting from the CNN article, here are some of Osama bin Laden's words: "And as I was looking at those towers that were destroyed in Lebanon [with U.S. government help], it occurred to me that we have to punish the transgressor with the same" he says, "and that we had to destroy the towers in America, so that they taste what we tasted and they stop killing our women and children."
If you live in Kalispell, Montana, USA, to pick a place at random, it is unlikely that you will be directly attacked by Arab terrorists. However, attacks on the U.S. affect you profoundly because they lower your quality of life, just as the U.S. attacks on Iraq lowered the quality of life there.
You said, "... there is a long, long, long list of people who are more deserving of the credit that Gore would ascribe to himself."
Vint Cerf said that Al Gore deserves unique credit. Back in those days, which are very difficult to remember now, you had to buy your floppy disks from a special company, and they really were floppy.
Back then it was the raw, early, ugly days of computing. (Just like it is now, with one big monopolist and proprietary file formats, and quirky, partly finished software that wastes your time, like Windows XP SP2.)
Back then, there was no one who had power in the U.S. Congress besides Gore understood anything technical. It's difficult to remember that now. Back then, people just did not relate to computing issues. If you knew something about computing, you were considered socially eccentric.
Back then, the ARPANET was thriving, but it was used by people who considered themselves privileged, and were privileged, and definitely did not want to share their privileges.
Back then, DARPA, the U.S. government's Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency would give ARPANET access to institutions and companies that were part of the effort to find new and better ways to kill people and destroy their property. Back then, it was perceived that there were enemies everywhere and it was important to protect ourselves by waging all war all the time. (Just like now.) It was called the "Cold" War. The U.S. government killed people, but the killing had to be a secret from the average citizen.
Back then there was an extremely acrimonious discussion about a new-fangled idea, the
Back then, there were not enough viruses for everyone; we had to share. Back then systems were mostly not vulnerable, viruses were spread through the honor system. Okay, that is a joke. It took Microsoft to invent sloppily coded operating systems that would assure the widespread availability of viruses. Unfortunately, that is not a joke.
Back then, there was a new-fangled gadget, the Hayes 2400 Baud modem, which few could afford. There were fears that such high-speed use would cause problems for the telephone system.
Al Gore had technical knowledge. Al Gore had power in government because he was a senator and a famous senator's son. He put the full weight of government behind the idea that just anyone could have access.
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Bush borrows money to kill Iraqis. 140 billion borrowed. With interest, you pay 200 billion. When Saudis attack, invade Iraq?
Did you ever try to get personal Internet access back in the ARPANET days? You could not. It was a private facility of large public institutions and big companies like Textronix.
Sure, you could shell into your company or government or educational account from home. But if you were just an average person, you could not get an account.
Okay, I meant "publically available utility".
I can't find the email message now because I'm supposed to be working, but Vint Cerf told me that, before Al Gore, the ARPANET was a private utility. Al Gore decided it should be a public service, and provided considerable support from the U.S. Congress to turn the ARPANET into the Internet.
Many people did the work. Many people should have some of the credit. But, according to Vint Cerf, Al Gore was the first public official to decide that there should be a public utility called the Internet.
It shocks me how little people know about the activities of their government. It shocks me that, after all this time, people are still believing the disinformation written by Republican marketing writers.
Don't believe the sound bites, read books. No one who read the more than 35 books about the Bush administration would vote for George W. Bush, that is clear.
Even those who read magazines would know more than most U.S. citizens. For example:
100 Facts and 1 Opinion -- The Non-Arguable Case Against the Bush Administration.
Everyone can make political statements. It is not logical to do it through abusing the moderation system.
Anyone who uses the words "liberal" and "conservative" shows that he or she is not thinking deeply. Those words are used in so many ways that they have lost their meaning, except as epithets.
Programmers and those who administer complicated computer systems must be logical. If they aren't, they cannot write a working program or troubleshoot problems. If logical people read enough books and gather enough facts, they must come to the conclusion that Bush should not be re-elected.
I could give hundreds of pages of support for this view. For 100 facts, see this well-documented article from The Nation magazine:
100 Facts and 1 Opinion -- The Non-Arguable Case Against the Bush Administration
Many Republicans and some Democrats maintain power by selling the government to the rich and powerful: Government data compares Democrat and Republican economics.
Moderators are using their moderation points to make political statements. My parent comment above is not a "Troll". You may disagree, but I am not making trouble. My statements are backed up by 3 movies, 35 books, and a very well-documented article.
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Bush borrows money to kill Iraqis. 140 billion borrowed. With interest, you pay 200 billion. When Saudis attack, invade Iraq?
This is my letter to the Bush relatives:
_______
Bush Relatives,
The three movies and 35 recently published books reviewed in the article linked below describe U.S. government corruption:
Unprecedented Corruption: A guide to conflict of interest in the U.S. government
There were several books published before and during the Clinton administration about former U.S. President Bill Clinton. However, the situation with Clinton and previous presidents was not even remotely comparable. There are many more books discussing the Bush administration, and the negative issues are far, far more serious.
Also see this well-documented article from The Nation magazine:
100 Facts and 1 Opinion -- The Non-Arguable Case Against the Bush Administration
Michael Jennings
Futurepower Publishing
P.S.: I learned about your site from a front-page story on Slashdot.org.
_______
In past elections, there has been a reason to vote for the other side. I didn't choose Bob Dole, but if he had been elected, the nation would have been okay, because Bob Dole is a decent man.
This election is different. It is not a matter of preference. The Bush Administration is extremely corrupt. Those who vote for Bush are not well-informed.
An old DEC manual for technical writers said that only 2% of Americans read non-fiction books not connected with work. That seems correct to me. I have found that even Slashdot readers, who are more intelligent than most people, have little knowledge of the activities of their government. Instead, some of them have picked up and believe Bush campaign lies like "Bush is Christian" and "Bush will protect us in the war against terrorism".
You have an anger problem, which seems to be true of most Bush supporters. Bush supporters find it very easy to justify killing other people, and don't realize that some of those killed will have family members who will want to retaliate.
And, you didn't read the books.
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U.S. Gov.: Borrowing money to kill Iraqis. 140 billion borrowed. With interest, you pay 200 billion.
"Whether or not we should have gone over there has *nothing* to do with how or why technology failed."
The Navy's super-expensive Aegis system caused the U.S. Navy to shoot down a civilian airliner, remember? The technology failed because the U.S. government system allows high-profit junk technology, paid for with the hard-earned money of U.S. citizens.
It would be possible to give many, many other examples.
Those who are angry and don't know it are easily manipulated.
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U.S. Gov.: Borrowing money to kill Iraqis. 140 billion borrowed. With interest, you pay 200 billion.
Whatever the problems in Israel, U.S. government involvement does not help, but makes things much, much worse.
U.S. government leaders have very unsophisticated understandings of other cultures. Here's an example of someone with a simplistic understanding: Senator Biden says the Saudi government cannot continue in power without U.S. government support.
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Government data compares Democrat and Republican economics.
I suppose you are talking about crown prince Abdullah. Could you say more about this?
MODERATORS: Whoever moderated the parent comment as Flamebait is not smart enough to be called ignorant, he is iggerunt.
The parent comment says, "Support for Israel may be the greatest cause of our problems." The king of Jordan says this is so. The foreign minister of Iran says this is so. (They were both interviewed on the Charlie Rose show.) Osama bin Laden said U.S. government support for Israeli violence was one of the two reasons he attacked the United States. (The other reason was U.S. government support for those who are against needed political change in Saudi Arabia.)
The U.S. government has been supporting the killing of Arabs for many years now by giving between 3.5 and 5 billion of your tax money to Israel, every year. There are only 14 million Jews in the entire world. There are only 4.8 million Jews in Israel. That money is about $1,000 for every man, woman, child, and baby in Israel who is Jewish, every year.
That money must be used to buy weapons made in the United States, at inflated prices. I seriously doubt that anyone who is in control of this policy has anything against Arabs or Jews, or even knows much about their cultures. It's government corruption, only that, not ideology.
To get votes from the millions of Jews in New York, Governor Pataki basically declared war on Arabs. To learn more about this, see the article, New York Governor Pataki's statements are equivalent to a declaration of war. Those who want power don't care how much damage they do.
Osama bin Laden says he wants a Muslim-religion-controlled political coalition. I've studied the matter for years, and I don't think there is much chance he can achieve that. The violent religious extremists in Muslim countries are not crazier than the violent religious extremists in the United States, however. The corruption caused by those who want weapons profits is supported by some of those who call themselves evangelicals. The evangelicals have an ugly plan that sounds to me like it might achieve a terrible goal. They want to kill all the Jews. They don't say that, of course. They don't take reponsibility for that. They say that their ancient books say that all the Jews will be killed or converted. Since there is slim chance that Jewish people would want to be evangelicals, or would be accepted by evangelicals, they are really saying that all the Jews will be killed. They are helping their prophecy by encouraging the 14 million Jews to get into bloody battles with the 1.1 billion Muslims. Experiment: Go into a very poor area of the U.S. and ask the next 10 street kids you see what they think the outcome of such battles will be. I will accept whatever they say.
Abba Eban, a respected Jewish leader, said that after World War II Jews were not welcome in Europe, even though they had suffered a lot. I agree with that. Some Jewish violent extremists believe that Jews must fight for their own land because they are not welcome elsewhere. That's not true, of course; Jews do very well in making contributions to New York. The weapons makers encourage the Jews in their worst impulses.
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U.S. Gov.: Borrowing money to kill Iraqis. 140 billion borrowed. With interest, you pay 200 billion.