Please DON'T pay attention. Many of us who read this don't have exactly
the same problem. It's appropriate to talk about a wide range of solutions.
Anyway, maybe he could get his GF or himself an old PC for $20 from the
newspaper classified ads. Voice applications don't require much computing
power. Skype, below, says 400 MHz is enough.
I just want to connect with friends in France and Brazil. I don't need any
standards like SIP. I would just like to use the sound card for sound. I want
to avoid use of a server for making connections, because all the companies
will soon begin charging for this unnecessary service.
I've never used it, but for the MAC and PC there is the free version of the Xten
software. Requires that you connect through someone's server. Free World
Dialup was suggested to me.
For the PC, Skype works perfectly.
The sound quality is better than regular telephones. However, there are some
problems: 1) Skype is made by the same people who made KaZaa. Possibly it has
hidden functions like KaZaa does. I've already found that every time it is
used it keeps installing itself so that it runs every time the computer is
turned on. The download page says, "no spyware, no adware". 2) Skype requires
an intermediate server. I would like to connect directly to my friend's IP
address. 3) I haven't verified this, but Skype seems to use a hard-coded
public key, so that, even though the voice is encrypted, it would be easy for
anyone to decrypt.
Skype can communicate through any firewall. If it doesn't find other ports
open, it works on port 80. (For those who don't know, that's the HTTP browser
port.) It would be great to find some open source software that could do that,
because I don't like punching holes in firewalls. (However, if voice can go
through port 80, so can absolutely anything else.)
What other "Voice Chat" or "VOIP" software have you used, and what has been
your experience?
Froogle says the minimum price for the Sony RM-VL900 Universal Remote is 37.08 + shipping. Be careful about companies that try to make a profit on the shipping.
I looked at the Xten software. I just want to connect with a friend in
France. I don't need SIP. I would just like to use the sound card for sound. I
want to avoid use of a server for making connections, because all the
companies will soon begin charging for this unnecessary service.
Skype works perfectly. The sound
quality is better than regular telephones. However, there are some problems:
1) Skype is made by the same people who made KaZaa. Possibly it has hidden
functions like KaZaa does. I've already found that every time it is used it
keeps installing itself so that it runs every time the computer is turned on.
2) Skype requires an intermediate server. I would like to connect directly to
my friend's IP address. 3) I haven't verified this, but Skype seems to use a
hard-coded public key, so that, even though the voice is encrypted, it would
be easy for anyone to decrypt.
Skype can communicate through any firewall. If it doesn't find other ports
open, it works on port 80. (For those who don't know, that's the HTTP browser
port.) It would be great to find some open source software that could do that,
because I don't like punching holes in firewalls. (However, if voice can go
through port 80, so can absolutely anything else.)
Are you associated with Xten? I notice you say, "... our X-Lite softphone...".
Your resume looks interesting, but I don't see any mention of XTen.
Could you recommend VOIP software to be used to connect directly from one computer to another, without an intermediary, using the sound cards in the computers? Is there any such software that is open source? I don't see links to such software on your web site.
Does anyone have a link to VOIP software that allows directly connecting to an IP, and is free and open source? Skype has great sound quality, but I am worried about their honesty.
What other VOIP software is out there for making direct calls with no intermediary elements, even if it is not free and open source?
There are Indians who do treat foreigners as untouchables. I experienced the
Brahmin arrogance while in India, and it was easy to recognize again in the
technical support person.
The major point of my comment is that those who employ Indians are
experiencing a much larger problem with cultural differences than they
generally realize. Microsoft seems to have no mechanism for recognizing these
kinds of problems, so no one in authority will learn of them, and they will
continue.
For more elaboration about this problem, see this comment from an Indian: #7856623.
The underlying problem is that the documentation of Windows XP is VERY
poor. If it had been better, I would not have needed to talk to a technical
support person. The technical support people learn from the documentation;
in this case various pieces of information in the documentation were subtly
misleading, in error, and absent.
Software companies generally use customer problems as a profit center. There
is an element in the companies that view customer problems as good for the
company.
It isn't just accent. It is huge, huge, huge cultural differences.
Sometimes you would be able to understand their words more easily if it
weren't so difficult to believe what they are saying.
About two weeks ago I was helped by a Microsoft tech support person in New
Delhi, or maybe Bangalore, I forget which. Some otherwise correctly running
Windows XP computers had trashed themselves so that it was impossible to run
the Recovery Console. The MS tech support guy had absolutely no clue about how
to fix the problem, although he did have plenty of time-wasting ideas. This is
not unusual, of course. The Psychic Friends Network
is sometimes equally as good as Microsoft technical support at understanding
bugs in Microsoft software.
What made this technical support call different is that the Indian Microsoft
technical support guy was the most arrogant person with whom I've ever talked.
He made Larry
Ellison look humble. He was cheerful enough, but entirely useless doing
technical support because of believing that I am an inferior who should
believe any lie he tells me.
After a while, for me it stopped being a support call and began to be an
interesting social interaction. In Hindu culture, if you don't belong to one
of the castes, you are an untouchable, a person below any of the castes.
Obviously, I don't belong to any of the castes, so you know where that left
me. To him, I was of the social class that cleans up after bodies that have
been burned on a funeral fire, or empties latrines, or eats dogs.
Many, many Hindus are little influenced by the caste system, but this guy
seems to embrace it completely. Whenever I would tell him that it was obvious
that what he was saying was untrue, he would tell me another lie. No amount of
mentioning that what he was saying was obviously incorrect stopped him. To
him, anything that popped into his mind should be gold to someone like me. I
would say, "You invented that; there's no reason to think that whatsoever",
and he would just cheerfully continue with another invention.
If you aren't familiar with the arrogance and disconnection of the Hindu caste
system, here is a quote: "By his
very birth a Brahmin is a deity even for the gods and the only authority for
people in this world, for the Veda is the foundation in this matter." --
Manusmrti 11:85.
I was a Mensa member. (I haven't paid my dues in a long time.) I just barely passed the test to get into the club. So, I may be the Mensa member with the lowest IQ.
In one sense, the Enquirer article seems correct. In another sense, by not
naming the really serious problems with Microsoft products, the article almost
praises Microsoft.
For example, "Microsoft Windows 2000 and Windows XP have crippled file systems." The
file system cannot copy some of the files that are necessary to the operating
system. Microsoft provides no way of making functional backups of its newer
operating systems! (Yes I know about Sysprep and NTBackup and third-party
methods. Microsoft technical support agrees with my statement.)
Microsoft uses proprietary file formats. You can't reliably work with your
intellectual property created with Microsoft products unless you pay Microsoft
money!
Microsoft can change the license terms to which you are bound after you
have made your purchase and agreed to the terms!
Who was using the more than 60 serious security vulnerabilities found in the last two years in
Microsoft products before they were fixed?!!! Foreign governments? Your competitors? Hackers?
Your answer is interesting to me, even though it contains information not asked for in the Slashdot story. Would the audio sync situation be different with some other method of coding?
The view that seems cynical is often the reality.
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LOL.
The view that seems cynical is often the reality. Quoting from the parent post, about how programming is often managed:
"First a business manager makes the primary decision about which technology to use. Not only does the manager have no knowledge of the technologies, this decision often contradicts the advice if the technical advisors. Then a project manager cuts the work into pieces and assigns them to porgrammers. Again, the knowledge of what pieces ahould be grouped for one programmer is ignored. And the assignment starts with the manager's favorite programmer taking the interesting pieces, regardless of the programmer's skill level or suitability. Then the programmers do their thing, which usually involves getting high on caffeine and using the mystical energy to conduct the thoughts of higher powers into electronic form."
Escrow is evidence something is wrong.
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When the companies of one nation have their software written by another
nation, it is like teaching people from another family to make a living,
rather than teaching members of your own family.
Code written by Indian programmers will find its way into programs that are
owned by Indian companies. The Indian companies will eventually compete
against the companies who paid to have the software written.
Having source code in escrow misses the point. The point is that arms-length
management of coding just doesn't work. It doesn't work even if done inside one company. Arms-length,
detached management may seem to work in the short term,
but there are numerous failures over time. So, if you think you need source code escrow,
already something has gone wrong with your management.
For many business applications, the biggest intellectual challenge in
producing code that is enduringly useful is in the communicating and
management, not strictly in the coding itself.
I'm not the only person who thinks this. See comment #7812340: "Programming a decent size application is mostly
communication and management challenges, not coding."
The article referenced by Slashdot, in the India Times magazine Economic
Times, is an advertisement for a point of view, as is the Slashdot story.
The real purpose of the article is to sell US and UK companies on the idea
that the Indian company should be allowed to own the source code of the
programs that it writes. Here is a quote from the article:
'Similarly Sanjay Deshmukh, business development director, Business
Objects, states: "The customer who gets the source code, if the stipulated
events occur, has only limited rights and can use the same only for support
related activities. The customer cannot make commercial use of the same by
reproducing it." '
Note that the recommended "stipulated events" are unlikely to occur without a
VERY costly legal battle waged in two nations. Here is a quote:
'Subash Menon, president and CEO, Subex Systems, says, "The customer has to
establish that they are unable to obtain support from Subex, causes could
range from bankruptcy or discontinuation of that software product." Subex
Systems has entered into such agreements only for its customers in North
America.'
What are the chances that Mr. Menon will ever agree that he can't support software written by his own company? Zero. So, escrow is just a tax on the uninformed. If Mr. Menon goes bankrupt, what are the chances that his valuable interests will not be sold to another company? Zero again. Even if Mr. Menon and his employees all die in some terrible accident, Subex Systems will live on as a legal entity, because there is money in making it do so.
Quirkiness is a major problem with MySQL. Once you get started with non-standard implementation, you travel down a path from which it is difficult to return.
Yes, and 99% of those reading the comments would not realize how long is the list. The graphic effect of seeing all the areas of quirkiness is informative.
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Help me understand software death. My understanding is that Microsoft's
software death involves being pushed to an entirely new operating system, with
new hardware requirements and many, many new bugs and training problems. This
has certainly been true of the switch from Windows 98 to Windows XP. It
certainly appears likely to be true of a switch from Windows XP to Windows
Longhorn.
On the other hand, when Red Hat kills its
products, the upgrade is to something very similar. It is likely that no
hardware upgrade and no new training will be necessary.
Is that correct? Or, is Red Hat just as much of a Dr. Jack Kevorkian
as Microsoft?
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He seems to mean Ventrilo - Scalable Voice Communication Software. Anyone have experience?
Please DON'T pay attention. Many of us who read this don't have exactly the same problem. It's appropriate to talk about a wide range of solutions. Anyway, maybe he could get his GF or himself an old PC for $20 from the newspaper classified ads. Voice applications don't require much computing power. Skype, below, says 400 MHz is enough.
I just want to connect with friends in France and Brazil. I don't need any standards like SIP. I would just like to use the sound card for sound. I want to avoid use of a server for making connections, because all the companies will soon begin charging for this unnecessary service.
I've never used it, but for the MAC and PC there is the free version of the Xten software. Requires that you connect through someone's server. Free World Dialup was suggested to me.
For the PC, Skype works perfectly. The sound quality is better than regular telephones. However, there are some problems: 1) Skype is made by the same people who made KaZaa. Possibly it has hidden functions like KaZaa does. I've already found that every time it is used it keeps installing itself so that it runs every time the computer is turned on. The download page says, "no spyware, no adware". 2) Skype requires an intermediate server. I would like to connect directly to my friend's IP address. 3) I haven't verified this, but Skype seems to use a hard-coded public key, so that, even though the voice is encrypted, it would be easy for anyone to decrypt.
Skype can communicate through any firewall. If it doesn't find other ports open, it works on port 80. (For those who don't know, that's the HTTP browser port.) It would be great to find some open source software that could do that, because I don't like punching holes in firewalls. (However, if voice can go through port 80, so can absolutely anything else.)
What other "Voice Chat" or "VOIP" software have you used, and what has been your experience?
Yes, but see the comment above: #7862052.
Froogle says the minimum price for the Sony RM-VL900 Universal Remote is 37.08 + shipping. Be careful about companies that try to make a profit on the shipping.
Froogle says the minimum price for the Home Theater Master MX-500 is $97.52 + shipping.
I looked at the Xten software. I just want to connect with a friend in France. I don't need SIP. I would just like to use the sound card for sound. I want to avoid use of a server for making connections, because all the companies will soon begin charging for this unnecessary service.
Skype works perfectly. The sound quality is better than regular telephones. However, there are some problems: 1) Skype is made by the same people who made KaZaa. Possibly it has hidden functions like KaZaa does. I've already found that every time it is used it keeps installing itself so that it runs every time the computer is turned on. 2) Skype requires an intermediate server. I would like to connect directly to my friend's IP address. 3) I haven't verified this, but Skype seems to use a hard-coded public key, so that, even though the voice is encrypted, it would be easy for anyone to decrypt.
Skype can communicate through any firewall. If it doesn't find other ports open, it works on port 80. (For those who don't know, that's the HTTP browser port.) It would be great to find some open source software that could do that, because I don't like punching holes in firewalls. (However, if voice can go through port 80, so can absolutely anything else.)
Are you associated with Xten? I notice you say, "... our X-Lite softphone...". Your resume looks interesting, but I don't see any mention of XTen.
Marcelo,
Could you recommend VOIP software to be used to connect directly from one computer to another, without an intermediary, using the sound cards in the computers? Is there any such software that is open source? I don't see links to such software on your web site.
"Look closely at a dump of the binary. What do you see?"
What do YOU see? I see nothing that immediately raises questions.
Does anyone have a link to VOIP software that allows directly connecting to an IP, and is free and open source? Skype has great sound quality, but I am worried about their honesty.
What other VOIP software is out there for making direct calls with no intermediary elements, even if it is not free and open source?
There are Indians who do treat foreigners as untouchables. I experienced the Brahmin arrogance while in India, and it was easy to recognize again in the technical support person.
The major point of my comment is that those who employ Indians are experiencing a much larger problem with cultural differences than they generally realize. Microsoft seems to have no mechanism for recognizing these kinds of problems, so no one in authority will learn of them, and they will continue.
For more elaboration about this problem, see this comment from an Indian: #7856623.
The underlying problem is that the documentation of Windows XP is VERY poor. If it had been better, I would not have needed to talk to a technical support person. The technical support people learn from the documentation; in this case various pieces of information in the documentation were subtly misleading, in error, and absent.
Software companies generally use customer problems as a profit center. There is an element in the companies that view customer problems as good for the company.
Froogle shows he's right. $149.99 is the minimum price, but they don't have any in stock. $159 looks real, but that is before shipping.
It isn't just accent. It is huge, huge, huge cultural differences. Sometimes you would be able to understand their words more easily if it weren't so difficult to believe what they are saying.
About two weeks ago I was helped by a Microsoft tech support person in New Delhi, or maybe Bangalore, I forget which. Some otherwise correctly running Windows XP computers had trashed themselves so that it was impossible to run the Recovery Console. The MS tech support guy had absolutely no clue about how to fix the problem, although he did have plenty of time-wasting ideas. This is not unusual, of course. The Psychic Friends Network is sometimes equally as good as Microsoft technical support at understanding bugs in Microsoft software.
What made this technical support call different is that the Indian Microsoft technical support guy was the most arrogant person with whom I've ever talked. He made Larry Ellison look humble. He was cheerful enough, but entirely useless doing technical support because of believing that I am an inferior who should believe any lie he tells me.
After a while, for me it stopped being a support call and began to be an interesting social interaction. In Hindu culture, if you don't belong to one of the castes, you are an untouchable, a person below any of the castes. Obviously, I don't belong to any of the castes, so you know where that left me. To him, I was of the social class that cleans up after bodies that have been burned on a funeral fire, or empties latrines, or eats dogs.
Many, many Hindus are little influenced by the caste system, but this guy seems to embrace it completely. Whenever I would tell him that it was obvious that what he was saying was untrue, he would tell me another lie. No amount of mentioning that what he was saying was obviously incorrect stopped him. To him, anything that popped into his mind should be gold to someone like me. I would say, "You invented that; there's no reason to think that whatsoever", and he would just cheerfully continue with another invention.
If you aren't familiar with the arrogance and disconnection of the Hindu caste system, here is a quote: "By his very birth a Brahmin is a deity even for the gods and the only authority for people in this world, for the Veda is the foundation in this matter." -- Manusmrti 11:85.
For another example of Indian arrogance, see this story by an Indian : Hindian Arrogance on a Tourist Bus.
We hear a little about the problems of outsourcing technical support, but things are a lot worse than most stories say.
I was a Mensa member. (I haven't paid my dues in a long time.) I just barely passed the test to get into the club. So, I may be the Mensa member with the lowest IQ.
In one sense, the Enquirer article seems correct. In another sense, by not naming the really serious problems with Microsoft products, the article almost praises Microsoft.
For example, "Microsoft Windows 2000 and Windows XP have crippled file systems." The file system cannot copy some of the files that are necessary to the operating system. Microsoft provides no way of making functional backups of its newer operating systems! (Yes I know about Sysprep and NTBackup and third-party methods. Microsoft technical support agrees with my statement.)
Microsoft uses proprietary file formats. You can't reliably work with your intellectual property created with Microsoft products unless you pay Microsoft money!
Microsoft can change the license terms to which you are bound after you have made your purchase and agreed to the terms!
Who was using the more than 60 serious security vulnerabilities found in the last two years in Microsoft products before they were fixed?!!! Foreign governments? Your competitors? Hackers?
Your answer is interesting to me, even though it contains information not asked for in the Slashdot story. Would the audio sync situation be different with some other method of coding?
Thanks for the suggestion. Here's a link: Egghead Leadtek tuner cards. Here's Leadtek's description: WinFast TV2000 XP.
LOL.
The view that seems cynical is often the reality. Quoting from the parent post, about how programming is often managed:
"First a business manager makes the primary decision about which technology to use. Not only does the manager have no knowledge of the technologies, this decision often contradicts the advice if the technical advisors. Then a project manager cuts the work into pieces and assigns them to porgrammers. Again, the knowledge of what pieces ahould be grouped for one programmer is ignored. And the assignment starts with the manager's favorite programmer taking the interesting pieces, regardless of the programmer's skill level or suitability. Then the programmers do their thing, which usually involves getting high on caffeine and using the mystical energy to conduct the thoughts of higher powers into electronic form."
Here is my reply: Escrow is evidence something is wrong.
When the companies of one nation have their software written by another nation, it is like teaching people from another family to make a living, rather than teaching members of your own family.
Code written by Indian programmers will find its way into programs that are owned by Indian companies. The Indian companies will eventually compete against the companies who paid to have the software written.
Having source code in escrow misses the point. The point is that arms-length management of coding just doesn't work. It doesn't work even if done inside one company. Arms-length, detached management may seem to work in the short term, but there are numerous failures over time. So, if you think you need source code escrow, already something has gone wrong with your management.
For many business applications, the biggest intellectual challenge in producing code that is enduringly useful is in the communicating and management, not strictly in the coding itself.
I'm not the only person who thinks this. See comment #7812340: "Programming a decent size application is mostly communication and management challenges, not coding."
The article referenced by Slashdot, in the India Times magazine Economic Times, is an advertisement for a point of view, as is the Slashdot story. The real purpose of the article is to sell US and UK companies on the idea that the Indian company should be allowed to own the source code of the programs that it writes. Here is a quote from the article:
'Similarly Sanjay Deshmukh, business development director, Business Objects, states: "The customer who gets the source code, if the stipulated events occur, has only limited rights and can use the same only for support related activities. The customer cannot make commercial use of the same by reproducing it." '
Note that the recommended "stipulated events" are unlikely to occur without a VERY costly legal battle waged in two nations. Here is a quote:
'Subash Menon, president and CEO, Subex Systems, says, "The customer has to establish that they are unable to obtain support from Subex, causes could range from bankruptcy or discontinuation of that software product." Subex Systems has entered into such agreements only for its customers in North America.'
What are the chances that Mr. Menon will ever agree that he can't support software written by his own company? Zero. So, escrow is just a tax on the uninformed. If Mr. Menon goes bankrupt, what are the chances that his valuable interests will not be sold to another company? Zero again. Even if Mr. Menon and his employees all die in some terrible accident, Subex Systems will live on as a legal entity, because there is money in making it do so.
Quirkiness is a major problem with MySQL. Once you get started with non-standard implementation, you travel down a path from which it is difficult to return.
Yes, and 99% of those reading the comments would not realize how long is the list. The graphic effect of seeing all the areas of quirkiness is informative.
Any discussion of MySQL should include MySQL gotchas:
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Help me understand software death. My understanding is that Microsoft's software death involves being pushed to an entirely new operating system, with new hardware requirements and many, many new bugs and training problems. This has certainly been true of the switch from Windows 98 to Windows XP. It certainly appears likely to be true of a switch from Windows XP to Windows Longhorn.
On the other hand, when Red Hat kills its products, the upgrade is to something very similar. It is likely that no hardware upgrade and no new training will be necessary.
Is that correct? Or, is Red Hat just as much of a Dr. Jack Kevorkian as Microsoft?
"Can anyone possibly tell me why the hell this site is listed in my company's web filter as pornography?"
The web page uses the word suck.
I find the MySQL gotchas frightening:
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