if the institution is more important than the individual, then the policy is by definition working against civil rights
No, you simply don't understand what he said. Civil Liberties are more important than any one man's life, and fascists will often attempt to remove them in the name of protecting lives. Losing something like the right to speak your mind is worse than having fifty or a hundred people die - 250 million people are suddenly gagged.
But really, how can you sit there and say that civil liberties work against civil rights?
The question on my mind, as regards 9/11, is this: who blew up the WTC? Jet fuel only burns so hot, and the destruction is inconsistent with a plane strike.
As far as danger, I fear my government more than some tool with an AK47.
If welder-kid hates lit and will never read anything that isn't a tv guide, why are we forcing him to analyze the details of Hamlet for 8 months?
He might find that he likes it better than welding - not every son of a welder is going to be a welder himself. This is the whole point of public education.
So, when we had a Rhodes Scholar as President, the USA had a culture that celebrated intelligence and vilified ignorance, and then instantly switched on 20-Jan-2001?
As I recall, people still blame clinton for every bad thing that's happened in the last decade, while the current ignorant jackass is celebrated for being folksy.
the average joe public couldn't give a toss if you can copy it... the populatiry of DVD video proves this
Yeah, well I bet 15 minutes of unskippable adverts on the movie they just bought pisses them off. It sure as hell irks me to the point I won't be buying anything from disney.
After playing a Star Wars RTS for half a day, I stood up and almost fell over. I felt disoriented and horrible, had a crazy head-ache and then surprised myself by actually vomiting.
I figured it was food poisoning or something, as I'd never had that reaction to a game before, and I'd played thousands of hours worth.
Can you honestly tell me that if you had a child attending a public school, you would be satisfied if another student with a known record of drug abuse, drug sales, or drunk driving, was going to the same school?
It's a public school - everybody has a right to an education (or at leaast the chance for one). Never mind that these are harmless things for the most part - parties, pot, and 'inappropriate behavior'.
You only need to buy that crap once every 5 years or so (keep up with new features and such), so what's the big deal? That's $350 spread over 5 years and 2 garbage computers - don't people spend more than that on cable?
For example, Maya is a very expensive bit of software, and they offer a free personal learning edition which is feature-equivilent to the basic version of the software, and not time=limited (it does add a watermark to your renders though).
I got the PLE of version 4, and it wouldn't install after about a year.
Why should software programmers be paid over and over for their hard work when the rest of us get paid only once for the same amount of effort? Yes, I've said the same thing about musicians and song-writers. You seem to think you have a moral right here, but I don't think you do. Legal, yes, moral, no, not until everyone has the same right.
Because you don't get paid for your efforts. Nobody gives a damn how hard it was for you; they only care if the price you demand is one they're willing to pay.
That said, a house is a physical object resting on a plot of land. If you can figure out how to produce it with less labor than the next guy, then you get to keep the difference. If I can write a utility and market it well, then I get to sell it a million times and keep $20 from each sale for myself - I doubt you'd be willing to spend $1m on an accounting package (more, actually), which is what it'd cost if I could only sell it once.
I'm sorry but the average home user doesn't have the cash for a copy of Photoshop, so yeah, they pirate it. If they couldn't pirate they wouldn't go out and buy photoshop, they'd download the Gimp.
Enter Photoshop elements - it's cheaper ($90), works similarly to PS, and is limited in ways that are likely only important to graphic artists, who can afford a copy of PS along with Illustrator, Maya, etc.
So, yes when there is a 1 mile bridge made of nanotubes, we could start thinking that maybe there is hope for the space elevator.
More to the point, when people can build bridges with nanotubes, then it'll be a proven material and a potential revenue source. There's also stuff like elevator cables, shoelaces for riceboys in their hacked up Civics, and cool climbing gear that weighs almost nothing.
Here's a simpler, more general way to state it:
For every two real numbers A, B where A < B, there exists a number x = (A+B)/2.
Since A < x < B, you can repeat the existence postulate for A, x and x, B
This is true for A,B = 3,4.
And this is why the idea of a product is soon to be a thing of the past.
That's what the RIAA and MPAA want, but don't bet on it.
More and more products are being converted into services. This was seen comming years ago when leasingof automobiles became more and more popular.
All leased cars are eventually sold - GM doesn't want to keep its cars and neither does BMW.
In reality the theater pays a royalty every time the movie is show, based on number of tickets sold even though the movie itself is a product.
No, a current run movie is a service. IT is then packaged and sold as a product.
I will add that I wouldn't mind if Automakers received a royalty from used car resales.
Neither would they, but they don't have any reason to claim it.
By your logic about artist not working any harder when you resell a used work, we might as well make the first sale of any one artistic work fully compensate the artist and the rest of the sales simply cover the cost of replication (after all the artist doesn't have to reproduce the hard work it took to original create each time it is replicated). Since I doubt any one person will pay a million dollars for being the first one to buy a particular CD, I don't see this working out.
This is how it worked before copyright. Now, they get a limited monopoly in exchange for releasing it to the PD afterwards.
The current model is that the orignal purchaser pays enough to cover the orignal sale and a certain number of resales.
No, that's one business model, and it doesn't cover resales because nobody deserves money from secondary sales.
with the manufacturer droping the sale price over time (as can already be seen in the likes of Sonys Greatest Hits pricing).
No, they drop prices over time in order to hit various price points. They don't like the secondary market because it interferes with them making money. They'd outlaw secondhand sales if they could, but they can't.
I was only saying that even with all the nay sayers out there the PS3 price model and licensing plan does not negatively impact everyone, and it is actually perfectly suited for some of us.
No, you've been stating that copyright holders deserve money when a product is resold, but haven't backed that up at all.
But in California, there is a law that makes it very clear that in an employee's free time (contract, full-time, whatever), they are free to come up with ideas and launch their own companies.
I wonder if WA state has a similar law. Would be nice.
Where else are there 3 major airports within 50 miles of each other with a Bay between them?
Wash. DC. No Bay, though - that's off to the side.
Where else are can you find enough land to support the millions of poorer people who live on the edges of the valley and take all the supporting jobs that the rich dont have to do,
DC has poor people.
Decent Mass-transit, Two major Colleges, a better freeway system then most places, AND better then average weather?
Check, check, and, um, nope. DC has 4 seasons, which may appeal to some.
What's your problem with known defects? Some defects are important (crashing, dataloss), while others are not (bug in query processor makes it take longer, some function returns failure in an edge case when it shouldn't, but nothing is impacted). There's also the fact that some of the important defects are either a result of an edge condition (weird data, underspecced hardware, extreme load) or will only be seen by a very few people. At that point, it becomes an economic decision.
Most people do not consider reselling a used DVD as immoral.
DVDs are a product.
But on the other hand most people would consider reusing (with or without reselling) a movie theater ticket to get into a movie twice would be immoral.
Movie theatres are a service.
When purchasing a used product, you are, in most cases, receiving the benifit of the product without any compensation given to the people who worked hard to produce the product.
Why is that? They don't work any harder, and they don't actually have a right to be compensated every time someone uses what they made. Do you have some sort of problem with buying a used car without giving the manufacturer a cut?
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if the institution is more important than the individual, then the policy is by definition working against civil rights
No, you simply don't understand what he said. Civil Liberties are more important than any one man's life, and fascists will often attempt to remove them in the name of protecting lives. Losing something like the right to speak your mind is worse than having fifty or a hundred people die - 250 million people are suddenly gagged.
But really, how can you sit there and say that civil liberties work against civil rights?
The question on my mind, as regards 9/11, is this: who blew up the WTC? Jet fuel only burns so hot, and the destruction is inconsistent with a plane strike.
As far as danger, I fear my government more than some tool with an AK47.
If welder-kid hates lit and will never read anything that isn't a tv guide, why are we forcing him to analyze the details of Hamlet for 8 months?
He might find that he likes it better than welding - not every son of a welder is going to be a welder himself. This is the whole point of public education.
So, when we had a Rhodes Scholar as President, the USA had a culture that celebrated intelligence and vilified ignorance, and then instantly switched on 20-Jan-2001?
As I recall, people still blame clinton for every bad thing that's happened in the last decade, while the current ignorant jackass is celebrated for being folksy.
Sure all the games are expensive, but I see more families renting games nowadays and only buying games for birthdays, etc.
Let's see how well that works if Sony manages to kill the secondary market for games.
Two, game engine licences still cost afr, far too much money.
How's a $100 dev license sound? $395 for indie licenses.
the average joe public couldn't give a toss if you can copy it... the populatiry of DVD video proves this
Yeah, well I bet 15 minutes of unskippable adverts on the movie they just bought pisses them off. It sure as hell irks me to the point I won't be buying anything from disney.
After playing a Star Wars RTS for half a day, I stood up and almost fell over. I felt disoriented and horrible, had a crazy head-ache and then surprised myself by actually vomiting.
I figured it was food poisoning or something, as I'd never had that reaction to a game before, and I'd played thousands of hours worth.
Yeah, Star Wars RTS does that to everyone.
We have a guy like that at work. He still gets around every couple of hours - there's just no 'up'.
Can you honestly tell me that if you had a child attending a public school, you would be satisfied if another student with a known record of drug abuse, drug sales, or drunk driving, was going to the same school?
It's a public school - everybody has a right to an education (or at leaast the chance for one). Never mind that these are harmless things for the most part - parties, pot, and 'inappropriate behavior'.
So what if they do? I had no extracurricular activities to speak of and I still got into a great school.
You only need to buy that crap once every 5 years or so (keep up with new features and such), so what's the big deal? That's $350 spread over 5 years and 2 garbage computers - don't people spend more than that on cable?
MS secretly loves that, because Vietnam wasn't a potential market for them anyway in the near future (too poor), but may be in the future.
More to the point, if everybody in Vietnam pirates windows (to run on their Ox?), then it isn't a potential market for anybody else either.
For example, Maya is a very expensive bit of software, and they offer a free personal learning edition which is feature-equivilent to the basic version of the software, and not time=limited (it does add a watermark to your renders though).
I got the PLE of version 4, and it wouldn't install after about a year.
Why should software programmers be paid over and over for their hard work when the rest of us get paid only once for the same amount of effort? Yes, I've said the same thing about musicians and song-writers. You seem to think you have a moral right here, but I don't think you do. Legal, yes, moral, no, not until everyone has the same right.
Because you don't get paid for your efforts. Nobody gives a damn how hard it was for you; they only care if the price you demand is one they're willing to pay.
That said, a house is a physical object resting on a plot of land. If you can figure out how to produce it with less labor than the next guy, then you get to keep the difference. If I can write a utility and market it well, then I get to sell it a million times and keep $20 from each sale for myself - I doubt you'd be willing to spend $1m on an accounting package (more, actually), which is what it'd cost if I could only sell it once.
I'm sorry but the average home user doesn't have the cash for a copy of Photoshop, so yeah, they pirate it. If they couldn't pirate they wouldn't go out and buy photoshop, they'd download the Gimp.
Enter Photoshop elements - it's cheaper ($90), works similarly to PS, and is limited in ways that are likely only important to graphic artists, who can afford a copy of PS along with Illustrator, Maya, etc.
why not build a huge tube out to the vacumn, pump the air out, release the valve and use the atmospheric pressure to rise on?
because it won't work?
So, yes when there is a 1 mile bridge made of nanotubes, we could start thinking that maybe there is hope for the space elevator.
More to the point, when people can build bridges with nanotubes, then it'll be a proven material and a potential revenue source. There's also stuff like elevator cables, shoelaces for riceboys in their hacked up Civics, and cool climbing gear that weighs almost nothing.
Here's a simpler, more general way to state it:
For every two real numbers A, B where A < B, there exists a number x = (A+B)/2.
Since A < x < B, you can repeat the existence postulate for A, x and x, B
This is true for A,B = 3,4.
Guess I gotta go to Cali, then. Pity, I'll miss this seattle drizzle (in goddamn MAY!).
And this is why the idea of a product is soon to be a thing of the past.
That's what the RIAA and MPAA want, but don't bet on it.
More and more products are being converted into services. This was seen comming years ago when leasingof automobiles became more and more popular.
All leased cars are eventually sold - GM doesn't want to keep its cars and neither does BMW.
In reality the theater pays a royalty every time the movie is show, based on number of tickets sold even though the movie itself is a product.
No, a current run movie is a service. IT is then packaged and sold as a product.
I will add that I wouldn't mind if Automakers received a royalty from used car resales.
Neither would they, but they don't have any reason to claim it.
By your logic about artist not working any harder when you resell a used work, we might as well make the first sale of any one artistic work fully compensate the artist and the rest of the sales simply cover the cost of replication (after all the artist doesn't have to reproduce the hard work it took to original create each time it is replicated). Since I doubt any one person will pay a million dollars for being the first one to buy a particular CD, I don't see this working out.
This is how it worked before copyright. Now, they get a limited monopoly in exchange for releasing it to the PD afterwards.
The current model is that the orignal purchaser pays enough to cover the orignal sale and a certain number of resales.
No, that's one business model, and it doesn't cover resales because nobody deserves money from secondary sales.
with the manufacturer droping the sale price over time (as can already be seen in the likes of Sonys Greatest Hits pricing).
No, they drop prices over time in order to hit various price points. They don't like the secondary market because it interferes with them making money. They'd outlaw secondhand sales if they could, but they can't.
I was only saying that even with all the nay sayers out there the PS3 price model and licensing plan does not negatively impact everyone, and it is actually perfectly suited for some of us.
No, you've been stating that copyright holders deserve money when a product is resold, but haven't backed that up at all.
But in California, there is a law that makes it very clear that in an employee's free time (contract, full-time, whatever), they are free to come up with ideas and launch their own companies.
I wonder if WA state has a similar law. Would be nice.
Where else are there 3 major airports within 50 miles of each other with a Bay between them?
Wash. DC. No Bay, though - that's off to the side.
Where else are can you find enough land to support the millions of poorer people who live on the edges of the valley and take all the supporting jobs that the rich dont have to do,
DC has poor people.
Decent Mass-transit, Two major Colleges, a better freeway system then most places, AND better then average weather?
Check, check, and, um, nope. DC has 4 seasons, which may appeal to some.
What's your problem with known defects? Some defects are important (crashing, dataloss), while others are not (bug in query processor makes it take longer, some function returns failure in an edge case when it shouldn't, but nothing is impacted). There's also the fact that some of the important defects are either a result of an edge condition (weird data, underspecced hardware, extreme load) or will only be seen by a very few people. At that point, it becomes an economic decision.
Most people do not consider reselling a used DVD as immoral.
DVDs are a product.
But on the other hand most people would consider reusing (with or without reselling) a movie theater ticket to get into a movie twice would be immoral.
Movie theatres are a service.
When purchasing a used product, you are, in most cases, receiving the benifit of the product without any compensation given to the people who worked hard to produce the product.
Why is that? They don't work any harder, and they don't actually have a right to be compensated every time someone uses what they made. Do you have some sort of problem with buying a used car without giving the manufacturer a cut?