because you'd need about a thousand of them. You do the best dollar/effort cuts first and go until you balance the budget. California's budget problem is easily stated thusly: you can get a referendum to spend money with a simple majority, but a tax referendum requires a 2/3 majority, so people have been adding to the governments obligations for 20 years without paying the taxes to fund them.
Why don't we just brand their heads with something like 'Molester' or the like, it would be far easier on everyone involved.
Yeah, given the likely result (vigilante killings), I can't see why we don't do that already...
Children would know to watch out for them.
They already do - don't spend time alone with your weird uncle tommy.
Probably would be easier on the offender since its a safe bet there are daycares, schools and tons of other 'red zones' scattered all over any urban area that you'd be very hard pressed to avoid without constantly referencing a map or just staying at home.
That's sort of the point - with all these exclusion zones and rules, it's nearly impossible to have a normal life. May as well go strangle a kid.
No, not really. The evidence that I've seen is that most kiddy diddlers aren't sick per se, but opportunistically having sex. Basically, they aren't seeking out children in the first place, but they did end up sleeping with one (probably a teen, but I have no data for that).
This is exactly what is happening at Guantanamo Bay. People being held because someone "Thinks" they might return to terrorism. Many, if not most who were released (freed, not simply transported to another prison) have returned to jihad. So they get held forever.
It makes sense, really - the great majority of the people in gitmo don't belong in any sort of jail in the first place - what would you do if you were minding your own business when some soldiers grabbed you and chucked you in a hole for 5 years?
. But real sex offenders have a disease that is not cured by jail time.
What disease is that? And what do you mean by 'real'? I'd dispute your crack about the recidivism rate, but first you gotta tell me what you think a real SO is.
Now they have to show jurisdiction - Assange hasn't done any of those things in the US, so that's a problem, one we'll probably solve with absurd levels of arrogance.
Good luck proving them; receiving classified docs from someone else doesn't sound like espionage. This is assuming it wasn't solicited - dunno for sure on that one.
No, I'm just saying that you blame the manufacturer of the end product when it doesn't work instead of trying to locate the guy who built the component in your particular unit. Like that's a reasonable thing to expect.
upthread, someone mentioned that the US government's own report states that about 85% of the people in gitmo shouldn't be there. I'm sure it's an acceptable thing to you, though.
Other details that are important: American no fly list, barred from the US while a US citizen (that alone should chill your blood), FBI guys visiting him in jail demanding 'truthful' answers before allowing him back in the country. Is it really a stretch that the Kuwaitis are doing the US a favor?
one of the places I worked, we had a gadget that maintained a list of all the files on the system and their checksums; any changes to the files were reported and reconciled with an existing trouble ticket - this is a heavy sort of process, and was only used on hosts deemed important, but it worked fairly well.
Right, you're a rugged individualist or some shit like that? You live in a society, and that comes with certain obligations. Frankly, we could easily afford all sorts of niceties if we weren't hell bent on blowing up the world.
Nobody wants to be useless (well some do, but I all for bribing them not to steal - cheaper than jail). Kicking them when they're down isn't going to help, it just makes things harder. What motivates is seeing a path to a better place. At the moment, there is or soon will be more people than work, and we really should think of what we can do with that.
So, let's talk about your whine about entitlement: it is a fact that most of the financial gains in the past 40 years have gone to the already rich, while the middle class is at best treading water. The top 1% own 90% of everything, and the income disparity is greater than in 1929. If we don't fix this, we will have a revolt of some sort, I guarantee it.
Now to the flip side - providing a base level of support no matter what removes a lot of the desperation from the poor and enables more risk taking - health care that you can't lose means that starting a company is less of a risk, and you don't have to stay at company X because you got thyroid cancer a while back. That should please you, what with more growth coming out of things. Basic education available to anyone that can meet standards would be great - we don't have too many engineers around these days, and that will bite us down the road.
Note the complete lack of 'deserve' in my argument. It's like I don't even care.
Perhaps so. But how do you define a functional society?
Well, the first cut is that, to the extent that we can reasonably manage it, nobody should starve or go without basic care. Social and economic mobility are big things and come right after basic safety - health care and accessible education do a lot for that.
With hyper-capitalism things are at least black and white.
And it leads to feudalism - we tried that, and oh boy did it fail us. The world is shades of grey, so let's try to address that a bit.
But now look at the society. It's far more complex.
Ok, so we agree on that.
Capitalism uses the death threat to force you to work (or else you can't buy food or shelter.) Whenever this threat is removed the society starts falling apart - some people decide that they don't need to work that hard, since someone else will provide them with food and shelter. This, of course, ends up with nobody working and everyone consuming.
Not so. People (most of them) want to be useful and have control over their lives, so they accept the dole until they can find something better. This has been shown in numerous experiments, and also, to an extent, in EU - France has had riots because people couldn't get jobs due to their name sounding african, for instance, and Germany has lower unemployment than we do and is fairly socialist.
I would be all for building that functional society of yours.
Go to europe and just talk to people; you may find that it's more possible than you think.
Funny, I'm going to a gothy club in cap hill in about an hour. It's pretty nice here, and there are lots of startups in pioneer square. Take a look at the rubicon project if you like - it's a good place, and there are a number of good places besides that. I'm a year away from getting a MS at the local university, at which point, I may look at SF, although maybe not - social connections are strong things.
way to miss the point. We're past the point where we have enough labor to get everything done, and we need to do something with the people we replace with machines. Ignoring them until they get desperate and locking them up isn't very appealing, but it seems to be what we choose. This isn't a rant against tech, it's a question of how we structure our society.
No, your high end system draws 125W for the CPU, 220W for each GPU and 60W for the monitor. That's 625W for a monster machine. The 1kW PSU is so you get get enough juice on the 5V rail.
Wait, so now we have a duty to prop up businesses that don't have a profitable setup?
No, we have a duty to maintain a functional society. Combining heavy automation with the hypercapitalist fuck the poor attitude I see nowadays is dangerous as hell.
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sure, at that rate, you can balance the budget by next year.
because you'd need about a thousand of them. You do the best dollar/effort cuts first and go until you balance the budget. California's budget problem is easily stated thusly: you can get a referendum to spend money with a simple majority, but a tax referendum requires a 2/3 majority, so people have been adding to the governments obligations for 20 years without paying the taxes to fund them.
Why don't we just brand their heads with something like 'Molester' or the like, it would be far easier on everyone involved.
Yeah, given the likely result (vigilante killings), I can't see why we don't do that already...
Children would know to watch out for them.
They already do - don't spend time alone with your weird uncle tommy.
Probably would be easier on the offender since its a safe bet there are daycares, schools and tons of other 'red zones' scattered all over any urban area that you'd be very hard pressed to avoid without constantly referencing a map or just staying at home.
That's sort of the point - with all these exclusion zones and rules, it's nearly impossible to have a normal life. May as well go strangle a kid.
No, not really. The evidence that I've seen is that most kiddy diddlers aren't sick per se, but opportunistically having sex. Basically, they aren't seeking out children in the first place, but they did end up sleeping with one (probably a teen, but I have no data for that).
This is exactly what is happening at Guantanamo Bay. People being held because someone "Thinks" they might return to terrorism. Many, if not most who were released (freed, not simply transported to another prison) have returned to jihad. So they get held forever.
It makes sense, really - the great majority of the people in gitmo don't belong in any sort of jail in the first place - what would you do if you were minding your own business when some soldiers grabbed you and chucked you in a hole for 5 years?
. But real sex offenders have a disease that is not cured by jail time.
What disease is that? And what do you mean by 'real'? I'd dispute your crack about the recidivism rate, but first you gotta tell me what you think a real SO is.
Now they have to show jurisdiction - Assange hasn't done any of those things in the US, so that's a problem, one we'll probably solve with absurd levels of arrogance.
Good luck proving them; receiving classified docs from someone else doesn't sound like espionage. This is assuming it wasn't solicited - dunno for sure on that one.
No, I'm just saying that you blame the manufacturer of the end product when it doesn't work instead of trying to locate the guy who built the component in your particular unit. Like that's a reasonable thing to expect.
true enough, but i tire of people trying to pin the whole treason thing on him. Annoying twatwaffle, sure, but that isn't illegal.
upthread, someone mentioned that the US government's own report states that about 85% of the people in gitmo shouldn't be there. I'm sure it's an acceptable thing to you, though.
Other details that are important: American no fly list, barred from the US while a US citizen (that alone should chill your blood), FBI guys visiting him in jail demanding 'truthful' answers before allowing him back in the country. Is it really a stretch that the Kuwaitis are doing the US a favor?
Actually newspaper reporters and editors have been charged with treason in the past, and probably will be again in the future
And Assange, not being an American, is pretty much incapable of treason against the USA.
I don't have control over which DVD drive goes in my xbox, so I'll keep blaming the company I bought it from TYVM.
one of the places I worked, we had a gadget that maintained a list of all the files on the system and their checksums; any changes to the files were reported and reconciled with an existing trouble ticket - this is a heavy sort of process, and was only used on hosts deemed important, but it worked fairly well.
wait, he literally shat himself? Here's hoping he had a change of pants to hand.
ooh, do you know a short blond (now redhead) girl that moved the other way in 2009? I mentioned you to her last night and I think she knows you.
Right, you're a rugged individualist or some shit like that? You live in a society, and that comes with certain obligations. Frankly, we could easily afford all sorts of niceties if we weren't hell bent on blowing up the world.
Nobody wants to be useless (well some do, but I all for bribing them not to steal - cheaper than jail). Kicking them when they're down isn't going to help, it just makes things harder. What motivates is seeing a path to a better place. At the moment, there is or soon will be more people than work, and we really should think of what we can do with that.
So, let's talk about your whine about entitlement: it is a fact that most of the financial gains in the past 40 years have gone to the already rich, while the middle class is at best treading water. The top 1% own 90% of everything, and the income disparity is greater than in 1929. If we don't fix this, we will have a revolt of some sort, I guarantee it.
Now to the flip side - providing a base level of support no matter what removes a lot of the desperation from the poor and enables more risk taking - health care that you can't lose means that starting a company is less of a risk, and you don't have to stay at company X because you got thyroid cancer a while back. That should please you, what with more growth coming out of things. Basic education available to anyone that can meet standards would be great - we don't have too many engineers around these days, and that will bite us down the road.
Note the complete lack of 'deserve' in my argument. It's like I don't even care.
Perhaps so. But how do you define a functional society?
Well, the first cut is that, to the extent that we can reasonably manage it, nobody should starve or go without basic care. Social and economic mobility are big things and come right after basic safety - health care and accessible education do a lot for that.
With hyper-capitalism things are at least black and white.
And it leads to feudalism - we tried that, and oh boy did it fail us. The world is shades of grey, so let's try to address that a bit.
But now look at the society. It's far more complex.
Ok, so we agree on that.
Capitalism uses the death threat to force you to work (or else you can't buy food or shelter.) Whenever this threat is removed the society starts falling apart - some people decide that they don't need to work that hard, since someone else will provide them with food and shelter. This, of course, ends up with nobody working and everyone consuming.
Not so. People (most of them) want to be useful and have control over their lives, so they accept the dole until they can find something better. This has been shown in numerous experiments, and also, to an extent, in EU - France has had riots because people couldn't get jobs due to their name sounding african, for instance, and Germany has lower unemployment than we do and is fairly socialist.
I would be all for building that functional society of yours.
Go to europe and just talk to people; you may find that it's more possible than you think.
Funny, I'm going to a gothy club in cap hill in about an hour. It's pretty nice here, and there are lots of startups in pioneer square. Take a look at the rubicon project if you like - it's a good place, and there are a number of good places besides that. I'm a year away from getting a MS at the local university, at which point, I may look at SF, although maybe not - social connections are strong things.
way to miss the point. We're past the point where we have enough labor to get everything done, and we need to do something with the people we replace with machines. Ignoring them until they get desperate and locking them up isn't very appealing, but it seems to be what we choose. This isn't a rant against tech, it's a question of how we structure our society.
No, your high end system draws 125W for the CPU, 220W for each GPU and 60W for the monitor. That's 625W for a monster machine. The 1kW PSU is so you get get enough juice on the 5V rail.
Milton Friedman often spoke about this fallacy. It is based on a misunderstanding of the free market.
Who wants to live in a free market? I want to live in a society.
Wait, so now we have a duty to prop up businesses that don't have a profitable setup?
No, we have a duty to maintain a functional society. Combining heavy automation with the hypercapitalist fuck the poor attitude I see nowadays is dangerous as hell.