I think the world is about to learn some lessons from Intel on this one actually. With the P4, Intel has managed to build a very well known brand, and pull down heavy revenue with it. While doing so, they have gotten practice running semiconductors at speeds nearly twice that at which AMD's done. They've also gotten time in with SMT via HyperThreading.
Flush with cash from the P4 party, they've turned around and put it into further R&D on the P3, moving it up past it's orriginal performance wall, to the point that it's competitive with AMD's current offerings (sans x86-64 extensions of course.). So, Intel is sitting on a brand name that still brings them hefty amounts of cash, and a CPU waiting in the wings to be uncorked and cut loose in the desktop market. They have already practiced winding up clock speed and intergrating SMT, so when the time comes, they can upshift the P-M as needed from experience instead of dealing with the learning curve of doing for a first time.
Yeah, I'd say Intel's played this one pretty good myself.
Funny, I use RDP over a 768/128kbps DSL link and it's quite responsive. Only things that really giveit a problem, sound or heavy flash animations. On a 12mbps USB link, that shouldn't be an issue.
Ah FUD, it smells just as bad when it's from the other side of the fence. Windows doesn't lock you out, it just pesters to reactivate, and adding ram alone won't trigger it. I've yet to trigger a reactivation on my box, and I've monkey'd with cpus, video cards, hard drives, raid controllers, ram, etc. If you're going to bemoan Windows, atleast have your facts straight.
How is your service being affected by hacked/modded DSL modems? The rate limiting doesn't occur at the modem, it occurs at the DSLAM by tweaking the line rates the remote CPE is allowed to train up to. If the DSLAM has been hacked, well, you're screwed, get a new ISP, but people mucking with their modems, all that does is affect how well they train, not allow them to 'uncap' their setup like you can with cable.
Maxtor may not be the absolute best built drive ever, or even ev4r!, but they do have a no quibble warranty. Its nice, don't like the way the drive looks at you in the morning, call 'em up and they'll replace it right then and there. Hear a squeak, call, replaced. ATTO showing wierd numbers, call, replace. (I actually did with 2 drives, the read speed was down compared to 2 other matching models, Maxtor didn't question it and replaced the drives.)
I believe the federal law has language to the effect that it trumps state laws where it provides the employee more protection. IE if the state says no overtime for you, but the federal law says you get OT, you get OT.
NT has more room to be secured by nature of microkernel base than linux currently. So yeah, you can bolt security on. Most people will be pissed at old apps breaking, but if MS thought they could get away with it they could lock XP/etc down hardcore. Unfortunatly 99.9% of their userbase will piss and moan that its too hard to use and they don't wanna buy new software.
And A64 is any different how? They are both extentions to a 32bit isa, which was an extention to a 16bit isa... I urge you to hop over to Anandtech and see their comparison which shows their implimentation working quite nicely.
Don't bother reposting unless you have actuall technical details to discuss.
CF is bog standard IDE for an interface, just a different connector. Plenty of CF to ATA adapters out there, got mine for $25. So...
8 x $25 = $200
(Pricewatch based pricing...) 12 x $137 = $1644 (2.2GB CF module) 12 x $53 = $636 (512MB CF module)
$498 (3Ware 7506-12 RAID)
$2480 - 26.4GB RAW SSD? - $94 per GB $1344 - 6GB RAW SSD - $224 per GB
Note, if you want RAID 5 or other forms of data redundancy your capacity goes down. I'm also not certain the 2.2GB modules are true SSD or microdrives.
So, this setup doesn't plug into a standard drive interface, nor does it take up a single drive bay. Increase the cost to $600, to add a low end PC + scsi card, add freebsd and you can pump the drive out as a scsi drive using device emulation. Now it fakes scsi. I've not seen a way to emulate an IDE drive easily.
Quality eh? Ever troll the macfixit.com? (Heh, I crack myself up sometimes!) All sorts of blatent design flaws docuemented there. How many dual USB iBooks have had multiple motherboards? (The replacement program was recently expanded to cover nearly all G3 dual USB 'snow' iBooks.) Does the PB190 recall ring a bell? Remeber the Performa 6214CD? G5's that won't sleep, G5's that won't wake from sleep. Wait, sleep in general just seems to flat out not work consistanly across the entire Apple G3/G4 line with OS X.
No, you're not getting any more quality for the buck out of Apple, they are running the same as just about any other OEM.
Ok, viri, worms, spyware, etc... Can and will occur on OS X. There is nothing magical about OS X that eliminates these threats permantly. If there were, I wouldn't have to pay attention to the security announcements list for FreeBSD, etc, 'cause its a *nix as well.
Troubleshooting - just 'cause YOU don't know how to go registry diving doesn't mean it can't be done. Similarly, not everyone knows how a *nix needs to be massaged when things go bump in the night. I have yet to ever have to resort to a clean reinstall of XP, and my system has been upgraded from Dos 2.11 up through just about every major release sans WinME. Have I had problems, yup, usually my fault, but I was able to fix them and move on.
One last shot across the bow - It just works eh? Why all those programs out there that require patches or new downloads to transistion from OS X 10.0 to 10.1, to 10.2, to 10.3? Apple keeps mucking with the base APIs in destructive ways, and you wanna claim 'it just works'?! Hah!:P
I think thats a license restriction that can be legally challanged sucessfully. That restriction impinges on interoperability, and may be construed as bundling.
Actually, the G3, G4, and possibly the 603/604's all use the same 630 bus spec. Apple changed connectors a few times, but the bus it self was the same. This is what let aftermarket companies drop 'high' end cpus into older macs without crazy custom electronics.
Ya know, given PearPC's ability to get OS X fired up sans any Apple ROMs, or even a proper open firmware implimentation... the time may be ripe for a mac OS X compatible clone to hit the market.
Forgot to mention, but I'm near 100% positive this works just the same on the linux side of the fence as well. For extra fun, you can actually boot XP over the network from a single boot floppy, lots of time to setup though.
I've netbooted an iPaq IA1 using a similar setup, CF to load the kernel (replace with floppy in this scenario) and a USB nic to netboot over. Just using a USB HD also works. As long as you can compile support for the device into the kernel, you should be able to use it as a root file system. Load the kernel, and it'll handle the rest.
Its not the applets that Apple's copied, its the implimentation. The orriginal DAs were bits of independant code. Konfabulator and now Dashboard applets are far simplier javascript with a single backend.
PPPoE - XP and OS X both have working clients, requires a uname/pw to connect. You can roam all you want, if your uname/pw becomes a problem, nukey nukey and you can't do crap from that point forward.
You didn't have to overclock a Cyrix PR166 to have problems. I went through 3 of them, finally getting an early sample of a new stepping to get one that would be stable and reliable at it's rated speed. The early Cyrix PR's were flawed.
Actually the G5 uses HT to connect CPUs to the northbridge, but doesn't have an onboard memory controller ala A64. So, all that phat bandwidth gets swamped by memory acess instead of being reserved for IO/SMP.
Got both their mouse and gamepad. I can't tell when the mouse is on or off unless my hand is on it to feel the breeze. Haven't really done any super hardcore gaming since getting it, so can't comment on it's abiltity to help when gaming or visiting those... moist websites.
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I think the world is about to learn some lessons from Intel on this one actually. With the P4, Intel has managed to build a very well known brand, and pull down heavy revenue with it. While doing so, they have gotten practice running semiconductors at speeds nearly twice that at which AMD's done. They've also gotten time in with SMT via HyperThreading.
Flush with cash from the P4 party, they've turned around and put it into further R&D on the P3, moving it up past it's orriginal performance wall, to the point that it's competitive with AMD's current offerings (sans x86-64 extensions of course.). So, Intel is sitting on a brand name that still brings them hefty amounts of cash, and a CPU waiting in the wings to be uncorked and cut loose in the desktop market. They have already practiced winding up clock speed and intergrating SMT, so when the time comes, they can upshift the P-M as needed from experience instead of dealing with the learning curve of doing for a first time.
Yeah, I'd say Intel's played this one pretty good myself.
Funny, I use RDP over a 768/128kbps DSL link and it's quite responsive. Only things that really giveit a problem, sound or heavy flash animations. On a 12mbps USB link, that shouldn't be an issue.
Ah FUD, it smells just as bad when it's from the other side of the fence. Windows doesn't lock you out, it just pesters to reactivate, and adding ram alone won't trigger it. I've yet to trigger a reactivation on my box, and I've monkey'd with cpus, video cards, hard drives, raid controllers, ram, etc. If you're going to bemoan Windows, atleast have your facts straight.
How is your service being affected by hacked/modded DSL modems? The rate limiting doesn't occur at the modem, it occurs at the DSLAM by tweaking the line rates the remote CPE is allowed to train up to. If the DSLAM has been hacked, well, you're screwed, get a new ISP, but people mucking with their modems, all that does is affect how well they train, not allow them to 'uncap' their setup like you can with cable.
I surf quite frequently on my Palm, 320x320
Maxtor may not be the absolute best built drive ever, or even ev4r!, but they do have a no quibble warranty. Its nice, don't like the way the drive looks at you in the morning, call 'em up and they'll replace it right then and there. Hear a squeak, call, replaced. ATTO showing wierd numbers, call, replace. (I actually did with 2 drives, the read speed was down compared to 2 other matching models, Maxtor didn't question it and replaced the drives.)
I believe the federal law has language to the effect that it trumps state laws where it provides the employee more protection. IE if the state says no overtime for you, but the federal law says you get OT, you get OT.
Which is why non microkernel OSs are doomed.
NT has more room to be secured by nature of microkernel base than linux currently. So yeah, you can bolt security on. Most people will be pissed at old apps breaking, but if MS thought they could get away with it they could lock XP/etc down hardcore. Unfortunatly 99.9% of their userbase will piss and moan that its too hard to use and they don't wanna buy new software.
Whiners.
And A64 is any different how? They are both extentions to a 32bit isa, which was an extention to a 16bit isa... I urge you to hop over to Anandtech and see their comparison which shows their implimentation working quite nicely.
Don't bother reposting unless you have actuall technical details to discuss.
'fake 64-bit nonsense' - Care to elaborate?
emt-64 is an amd-64 compatible extenstion to the P4. How is it fake 64 bitness unless Opteron and the A64 line are also fake 64 bit nonsense?
Or are you refering to Itanium? Last check, it was a fully 64 bit capible sysetm, no signs of 'fake 64-bit nonsense' there either.
Geez, if you're going to troll, atleast do a good job at it.
CF is bog standard IDE for an interface, just a different connector. Plenty of CF to ATA adapters out there, got mine for $25. So...
8 x $25 = $200
(Pricewatch based pricing...)
12 x $137 = $1644 (2.2GB CF module)
12 x $53 = $636 (512MB CF module)
$498 (3Ware 7506-12 RAID)
$2480 - 26.4GB RAW SSD? - $94 per GB
$1344 - 6GB RAW SSD - $224 per GB
Note, if you want RAID 5 or other forms of data redundancy your capacity goes down. I'm also not certain the 2.2GB modules are true SSD or microdrives.
So, this setup doesn't plug into a standard drive interface, nor does it take up a single drive bay. Increase the cost to $600, to add a low end PC + scsi card, add freebsd and you can pump the drive out as a scsi drive using device emulation. Now it fakes scsi. I've not seen a way to emulate an IDE drive easily.
Quality eh? Ever troll the macfixit.com? (Heh, I crack myself up sometimes!) All sorts of blatent design flaws docuemented there. How many dual USB iBooks have had multiple motherboards? (The replacement program was recently expanded to cover nearly all G3 dual USB 'snow' iBooks.) Does the PB190 recall ring a bell? Remeber the Performa 6214CD? G5's that won't sleep, G5's that won't wake from sleep. Wait, sleep in general just seems to flat out not work consistanly across the entire Apple G3/G4 line with OS X.
No, you're not getting any more quality for the buck out of Apple, they are running the same as just about any other OEM.
So many trolls, in just one message.
:P
Ok, viri, worms, spyware, etc... Can and will occur on OS X. There is nothing magical about OS X that eliminates these threats permantly. If there were, I wouldn't have to pay attention to the security announcements list for FreeBSD, etc, 'cause its a *nix as well.
Troubleshooting - just 'cause YOU don't know how to go registry diving doesn't mean it can't be done. Similarly, not everyone knows how a *nix needs to be massaged when things go bump in the night. I have yet to ever have to resort to a clean reinstall of XP, and my system has been upgraded from Dos 2.11 up through just about every major release sans WinME. Have I had problems, yup, usually my fault, but I was able to fix them and move on.
One last shot across the bow - It just works eh? Why all those programs out there that require patches or new downloads to transistion from OS X 10.0 to 10.1, to 10.2, to 10.3? Apple keeps mucking with the base APIs in destructive ways, and you wanna claim 'it just works'?! Hah!
I think thats a license restriction that can be legally challanged sucessfully. That restriction impinges on interoperability, and may be construed as bundling.
Note, I am SO not a lawyer! : )
Actually, the G3, G4, and possibly the 603/604's all use the same 630 bus spec. Apple changed connectors a few times, but the bus it self was the same. This is what let aftermarket companies drop 'high' end cpus into older macs without crazy custom electronics.
Ya know, given PearPC's ability to get OS X fired up sans any Apple ROMs, or even a proper open firmware implimentation... the time may be ripe for a mac OS X compatible clone to hit the market.
Hrmm... sounds kinda like... ...
BeOS? : )
Forgot to mention, but I'm near 100% positive this works just the same on the linux side of the fence as well. For extra fun, you can actually boot XP over the network from a single boot floppy, lots of time to setup though.
I've netbooted an iPaq IA1 using a similar setup, CF to load the kernel (replace with floppy in this scenario) and a USB nic to netboot over. Just using a USB HD also works. As long as you can compile support for the device into the kernel, you should be able to use it as a root file system. Load the kernel, and it'll handle the rest.
Its not the applets that Apple's copied, its the implimentation. The orriginal DAs were bits of independant code. Konfabulator and now Dashboard applets are far simplier javascript with a single backend.
PPPoE - XP and OS X both have working clients, requires a uname/pw to connect. You can roam all you want, if your uname/pw becomes a problem, nukey nukey and you can't do crap from that point forward.
You didn't have to overclock a Cyrix PR166 to have problems. I went through 3 of them, finally getting an early sample of a new stepping to get one that would be stable and reliable at it's rated speed. The early Cyrix PR's were flawed.
Actually the G5 uses HT to connect CPUs to the northbridge, but doesn't have an onboard memory controller ala A64. So, all that phat bandwidth gets swamped by memory acess instead of being reserved for IO/SMP.
Got both their mouse and gamepad. I can't tell when the mouse is on or off unless my hand is on it to feel the breeze. Haven't really done any super hardcore gaming since getting it, so can't comment on it's abiltity to help when gaming or visiting those... moist websites.
Infact, I believe ala-carte has been required outside of Maine for some time as well. Most cable-co's just don't advertise the fact.