but they should not be charging AT ALL for the OTA HD channels.. after all, they are not required in most places to PAY for them! (reasoning was that Cable was to make up for large cities where TV signal doesn't propegate well, there would be no other way to get a station only a few miles away.) On top of that, many run their own ads over top anyway. Now that HD is comming thru, the cable companies are trying to charge the customer for something they get for free. Also, another stipulation starting up is the carrying of sub-channels. HDTV allows for 4 subchanels of low-res programming or even different programming... and streaming downloadable channel guides too! A proper HDTV with good OTA channels is no different than cable anymore! Now that the OTA channels have been forced to "share" their signal for free all these years, they want the cable companies carrying ALL their programming.. not just some. Being as Cable isn't PAYING for it, that seems fair.
After all, Cable companies are commissioned to deliver Cable TV, not internet. Where do Cable Companies get their internet access from? Most don't have upstream sataliite feeds, so they must be paying for land lines. Land line mean they are ALSO TELCO CUSTOMERS!!! While cable companies can do most of the stuff by satallite, they will loose ALL of their VOIP services and internet connections..over night! They do realilze that the TELCOS have monopoly over phone services... over phone lines, with no net neutrality, they don't have to allow VOIP to connect to their networks. While most people can live without cable, most cannot live without phone. That's the telco's magic bullet. They will be able to upgrade EVERYBODY (profitable) to high speed internet and put TV on it as an "information service" Cable won't be able to do the same.. the telcos will be able to charge thru the noze for VOIP. Cable companies LOSE! Which side are they on again?
you miss the fact that most of the communications tech was created at ATT in the first place!! Yes, IP and TCP was created by "rogue" engineers sick of Ma Bell's overlording in the first. Unfortunately, all their work and predecessors are still employed by ATT! ATT entire business model is about complex billing for something that is very simple. Look at telephone bills. They can bill every single phone number to every other single phone number at a different rate by locations, number minutes, time of day, & number of 3's in the number.... for their technology, IP is just another type of phone number... with the addition of being able to bill not only the connection, but how fast it is and what you want to DO with it.
They are spending huge amounts of research money on this... when the switch flips they will make back the research spending in DAYS! that's how much money is at stake here.
There won't be any ISPs in 5 years. ISPs are those who buy telco pipes to connect their location to an Internet router location under the "telco" rules and share/resell those pipes with their customers. This whole corperate push is to eliminate the ISP... and have only Telco. After all, DSL is not under the "Telco" fairness rules anymore.. that's why in most cases to get DSL service off Telco, you have to also buy a whole phone line, because Telcos can restrict DSL access to other companies.. it's just an information service... but the Telcos still have to allow other phone companies to "rent" the space and lines. Of corse those other Phone companies are still beholden to the Telco network to go anywhere! What people aren't seeing is that the Telcos can bacsically cut off the other phone companies/ISPs from accessing the general internet with any high speed features.
In reality this argument isn't even about if the Telcos CAN do this.. like with bank fees, they're just "training" the public for when they flip the switch... they're not even ASKING at this point.. they're TELLING!!!
but the Canadians should haved asked for much more... they already give their record industry per-cd and other media stipends as compensation for "piracy". Sony taking extra, invasive, illegal, restrictions in addition to the consideration they already get is gross contempt for the Canadian People, eh.
let's say you knew a guy was committing murder. Him and a buddy all but told you so, but the police couldn't find the "smoking guy". You overhear they are going to a lake 100 miles away and can infer they are going to dump the evidence in their car there never to be found. You go to the lot, pop the tires and break the window to find a paper bag containing the gun and other evidence inside on the front seat. You now go to the rest of your friends, school, and ask to have the guy kicked out for killing your friend... that's the equalivelant going on here.. every body is attacking the "messenger" when they should be wondering why a fortune 500 board allowed directors to talk to press "off the books"! That's considerably more illegal and damaging to the company.
Perkins is the reason Dunn had to get the PIs involved. He was head of the board accounting and ethics oversight committee. He sat there while Dunn investigated, tried to get the board to do something and did nothing. He should have been the first board member a year ago to vote the guy out, but instead chose cronyism over the privacy of the boards internal discussions. I've worked for bosses that "tattle" to the rest of the workers on work related, but private matters.. it's no fun, it ruins companies. But the way Hurd knew about it too.
he stepped down because if the SEC finds out he knew about an internal board level leaker on his watch, he'll be guilty of security fraud for not disclosing. There's potential for insider trading where the leaker is telling tails outside offical channels. He's a much bigger fish to fry. Dunn is just a boss doing her duty a little to zealously.
It's business... they are selling something that does more for only a little more money. That makes them a tidy profit!!! That's what they develop new chips for is PROFIT. In another year or two, the prices will drop to be lower, or we will have devices so large we couldn't have afforded them at all... i.e. price of a 4GB SD card isn't going down any time soon due to complexity of manufactureing.. but the new chips may make 4GB as affordable as 1GB sooner.
no, current chips are 2.5D. basically they're just a series of circut "maps" laid on top of each other. Not much is different from circuit boards except they're a lot smaller. Look at it this way, no matter how many "maps" you pile on top of each other, you'll never have the simplicity of a globe, or a stack of blocks. Some of the new stuff does actual processing in the 3rd dimension.. in other words components and processing are stacked thru the layers, touching directly, which something that most chips still don't do.
there was no improper access of records to get 99% of the personal info.. that was on file. That's what HP gave the investigators to work on. The only infraction was the "pretexting" everything else was perfectly legal... that's why I keep saying it's a minor thing because while it makes the case, there's implicit agreement for employees to be "spied" on, yep you gave it all away when you signed you app. So if the company needs to "phreak" to access info you've already approved it's "grey".. obviously they can't ask for permission THIS time because it would impead the investigation. It's the same with insurance.. they get away with the same things because you signed up to be "spied" on if they think you're committing fraud against them. They routinely "phreak" for info... because even though you've already signed it away, they can't exactly ask for it when they thing you're lying can they?
the difference people miss is that these are directors of a fortune 500 company. If you are an employee of a company, and they think you're defrauding insurance, the company or a dozen other reasons, you've already pre-approved, on your employment app, to pretty much invegate whatever they want to... a good lawyer could spin "pretexting" into that quite easily. The only real issue is if those same things would apply to board members or not. If they're "employees" then the company already had permisson implied to "spy" on them.. the permision to "pretext" was already granted. You'd be surprised how many backgroud checkers, debt collectors, insurance companies, PIs use similar tactics all the time, maybe not for phone records, but for lots of other stuff and it's perfectly legal. She fingered the leaker to the board several times, but they didn't do anything about it. So she got some PIs and said "get it".
no, you won't have an excellent credit history, you won't have one at all! If you pay with cash, or check, etc, all the time none of that gets accounted for.. It's like you don't have anything at all. And because you haven't had anybody put info on the report, the employment, income, household information is out-of-date as well... so they will have information 10 years old... which makes you look like a scammer the loan issuer.
exactly, If you had to max out all your cards, and get new ones, they'd show up on your report. Just having too many credit attempts or inquiries on your report can drop you 100 points easy.
My opinion is that the "pricks" will use it to screen out people, but you wouldn't want to work for them anyway. The more common use I'd think of is "barging" power. If you have a good work record, but bad credit history, they'll know you're a hard worker... but they can pay you less!
perkins was on the board in charge of overseeing ethics issues for board members. Dunn, the legal consul, and HP investigators went "over his head" to rat out the leaker, because bringing it up to the full board and board's overseers wasn't working. So they called in a private firm.. and the private firm called in the "rats" to dig up dirt. It's no different that what workman's comp, insurance fraud, bill collectors, etc. investigators do on a daily basis. It's a fine line to walk but the line is more "grey" for private individuals than for law enforcement. It's dirty, underhanded, but the guy was basicly selling secrets to see the public go his way in board discussions. The fact is that he was telling to the press, off the books... at least it's an ethics breach because it wasn't "whistleblowing" it was politics. At worst, he was leaking to the press for who knows how long and profiting from it! That's insider trading and that's ILLEGAL, and puts every board member and executive in legal jepordy.
That's what Perkins doesn't get... this needed to be quit, they needed to fire the director quietly... Because he's the head of Board ethics, he should have shut up, this directly affects him, because he was informed of the breach and wasn't effective enough to catch the culprit he could be accused of "covering" for the rogue board member. Squeal all he want's but HE should have plugged this leak.. and not left the CEO to track it back to board members.
SHE was ethical... as much as any slashdotter that gets cheated out of money. What all the slashdot hype misses is a fortune 500 board member was leaking info to the press... even after the entire board was notified of the investigation, this board member continuined to leak confidential employee reviews, and stratagy meeting results...
We all say people like Apple should "clean their house" and stop threatening reporters and such. Well that's exactly what she did. Just like the rough slashdotter hacks to get a mailing/email address of a spammer, RIAA member, etc... It wasn't even Dunn that offically authorized it... I'm sure she just said "dig up dirt" The goal's not to bring a lawsuit against this guy, it's to get him kicked off every board he serves on! Fact of the matter is that most of the board didn't object to the investigation. The spying would have been fine for an employee alleged to do the same things.. the one resigning board member was only upset that he was not allowed to "spin" the investigation because the CEO went over the board's head because THEY weren't faithful.
This whole thing is really blown out of proportion. It's really more of a "cheating husband" thing.... people with power, position, and money, couldn't be bothered to keep the privacy of fellow board members and employees.
but Microsoft is STILL a monopoly! they can screw up as much as they want but when push comes to shove, they have the locked in multi-year OEM contract for just about every single pre-built PC that's sold in the US. Even if they crash and burn they are guaranteed MILLIONS of sales per year! and they can use the OEM contracts to keep the competition out too.
OK, so HP should file the correct document with the SEC. Several key board members were engaged in "off the record" communication with members of the press. This resulted in several bad news items that adversely affected stock prices due to discussion of private discussions with HP employees and the board that were made public in violation of HPs management confidentiality policy and in violation of the employees confidentiality. There may be insider trading as well, investigation will need to be made as to whether said board members made illegal stock trades after leaking said inforation. Mr Perkins as head of the boards ethics committee either was complicit with the leaks or neglected his duty to the stockholders to properly investigate and remove the leakers.
this sympathy martyr who's causing trouble may not like what Dunn did to the board members, but Dunn acted within the companies employee investigation policy.. maybe a little over with the phone records, but what debt collector, divorce investigator, or insurance fraud investigator doesn't "cheat" a little. The leaks were happening BEFORE she replaced Carly! It was her duty to investigate... even board members. Perkins just didn't like that board members were treated like the rest of us have been treated for at least 3 decades now.
this isn't just Dunn.. it's HP's entire legal department that endorsed the investigation and use of outside contractors. The AG is smoking crack, he won't find that any officer, or paid agent of HP did anything illegal. It's a fine line fraud investigation departments walk every day. They may have stepped over a little, but you know it was the outside agency that paid cash for a brown envelope.. Dunn didn't have any trouble telling the board they got the info because she wanted them to vote the guy off... after he had alredy lied to them before about leaking. This is like the wife that hires a PI to track a cheating husband and shows up to the divorce attorney with a "lost" object that could only have been left by the husband where he was cheating on his wife. Sure, it might have been illegal to obtain it, but to admit it's yours means you were lying to the board/cheating on your wife.
Dunn didn't actually order the spying anyway.. it was the Internal Investigation department.
They didn't do anything that's not done by other investigators. When you sign for a background check at your job, the agency may pretend to be a mortgage company instead of an employer to get info about your employment/financial history, most employees already submit to this and don't even know it. When you owe people money and change addresses, they often pretend to be somebody else like a call from the kids school to get your new address/phone number. When your sued by the RIAA they do much the same thing. The tops have to go to insurance investigators... fraud on house/auto is bad, but Workman's comp guys are nuts.. probably even worse that what HP did... and perfectly legal!
Now the case is closest to this case is Divorce investigators... The board is a trusted position, and one or more bozos didn't follow what the rest of the board voted to release to the public. If this was an employee, they wouldn't have "spied" because they'd have been fired for suspicion. Like the WSJ article said, Dunn told them she was investigating and these guys sat right there and lied to the full board! That's dirty dealing just like cheating on your wife... and they got treated like it... HP also sent the full work up... PIs to follow them and take pictures, etc. These guys are supposed to be the "keepers" of the company and were violating that trust. They deserve that they got spied on... the humiliation is about the only recourse the HP management actually has.. suing them would be difficult at best. Much of the bad press Carly got was directly because these guys aired the board's private discussions with her to the media.. would you want to work for a Boss that took disagreements with you public.. to your subordinates and business associates?
I see a plot here!!! Apple will add Nintendo games to iTunes and the Wii will be the media extender box we're all waiting for. Tivo will allow us to download directly to our ipods, and store games and media for the Wii.... It's a master marketing plan!!!!
the pieces are already there if you look up the sex toys sites... but it's not put into a "video game" per se. The online-interactive stuff is already here.
no, because HIS business was in the foriegn country... he did not come here and personally break the law here. That's where the legal fallacy comes into play.. imagine for instance driving from Michigan (speed limit 70) to Ohio (speed limit 60) driving legally in Ohio, but getting a ticket because you were "speeding" in Michigan... consider the effect if you were an Ohio citizen.. Can Ohio control your actions in another state? Consider if you are a citizen of Michigan? Or in another more charged case, consider a porn star moved to the "bible belt" and registered as a sex offender because they committed "gross sexual acts" on film legally in another STATE.
Of course that would be silly, but why is it different in this case which is International?
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but they should not be charging AT ALL for the OTA HD channels.. after all, they are not required in most places to PAY for them! (reasoning was that Cable was to make up for large cities where TV signal doesn't propegate well, there would be no other way to get a station only a few miles away.) On top of that, many run their own ads over top anyway. Now that HD is comming thru, the cable companies are trying to charge the customer for something they get for free. Also, another stipulation starting up is the carrying of sub-channels. HDTV allows for 4 subchanels of low-res programming or even different programming... and streaming downloadable channel guides too! A proper HDTV with good OTA channels is no different than cable anymore! Now that the OTA channels have been forced to "share" their signal for free all these years, they want the cable companies carrying ALL their programming.. not just some. Being as Cable isn't PAYING for it, that seems fair.
After all, Cable companies are commissioned to deliver Cable TV, not internet. Where do Cable Companies get their internet access from? Most don't have upstream sataliite feeds, so they must be paying for land lines. Land line mean they are ALSO TELCO CUSTOMERS!!! While cable companies can do most of the stuff by satallite, they will loose ALL of their VOIP services and internet connections..over night! They do realilze that the TELCOS have monopoly over phone services... over phone lines, with no net neutrality, they don't have to allow VOIP to connect to their networks. While most people can live without cable, most cannot live without phone. That's the telco's magic bullet. They will be able to upgrade EVERYBODY (profitable) to high speed internet and put TV on it as an "information service" Cable won't be able to do the same.. the telcos will be able to charge thru the noze for VOIP. Cable companies LOSE! Which side are they on again?
They are spending huge amounts of research money on this... when the switch flips they will make back the research spending in DAYS! that's how much money is at stake here.
In reality this argument isn't even about if the Telcos CAN do this.. like with bank fees, they're just "training" the public for when they flip the switch... they're not even ASKING at this point.. they're TELLING!!!
but the Canadians should haved asked for much more... they already give their record industry per-cd and other media stipends as compensation for "piracy". Sony taking extra, invasive, illegal, restrictions in addition to the consideration they already get is gross contempt for the Canadian People, eh.
we're arguing about cross-stitch here!
let's say you knew a guy was committing murder. Him and a buddy all but told you so, but the police couldn't find the "smoking guy". You overhear they are going to a lake 100 miles away and can infer they are going to dump the evidence in their car there never to be found. You go to the lot, pop the tires and break the window to find a paper bag containing the gun and other evidence inside on the front seat. You now go to the rest of your friends, school, and ask to have the guy kicked out for killing your friend... that's the equalivelant going on here.. every body is attacking the "messenger" when they should be wondering why a fortune 500 board allowed directors to talk to press "off the books"! That's considerably more illegal and damaging to the company.
he stepped down because if the SEC finds out he knew about an internal board level leaker on his watch, he'll be guilty of security fraud for not disclosing. There's potential for insider trading where the leaker is telling tails outside offical channels. He's a much bigger fish to fry. Dunn is just a boss doing her duty a little to zealously.
It's business... they are selling something that does more for only a little more money. That makes them a tidy profit!!! That's what they develop new chips for is PROFIT. In another year or two, the prices will drop to be lower, or we will have devices so large we couldn't have afforded them at all... i.e. price of a 4GB SD card isn't going down any time soon due to complexity of manufactureing.. but the new chips may make 4GB as affordable as 1GB sooner.
no, current chips are 2.5D. basically they're just a series of circut "maps" laid on top of each other. Not much is different from circuit boards except they're a lot smaller. Look at it this way, no matter how many "maps" you pile on top of each other, you'll never have the simplicity of a globe, or a stack of blocks. Some of the new stuff does actual processing in the 3rd dimension.. in other words components and processing are stacked thru the layers, touching directly, which something that most chips still don't do.
there was no improper access of records to get 99% of the personal info.. that was on file. That's what HP gave the investigators to work on. The only infraction was the "pretexting" everything else was perfectly legal... that's why I keep saying it's a minor thing because while it makes the case, there's implicit agreement for employees to be "spied" on, yep you gave it all away when you signed you app. So if the company needs to "phreak" to access info you've already approved it's "grey".. obviously they can't ask for permission THIS time because it would impead the investigation. It's the same with insurance.. they get away with the same things because you signed up to be "spied" on if they think you're committing fraud against them. They routinely "phreak" for info... because even though you've already signed it away, they can't exactly ask for it when they thing you're lying can they?
the difference people miss is that these are directors of a fortune 500 company. If you are an employee of a company, and they think you're defrauding insurance, the company or a dozen other reasons, you've already pre-approved, on your employment app, to pretty much invegate whatever they want to... a good lawyer could spin "pretexting" into that quite easily. The only real issue is if those same things would apply to board members or not. If they're "employees" then the company already had permisson implied to "spy" on them.. the permision to "pretext" was already granted. You'd be surprised how many backgroud checkers, debt collectors, insurance companies, PIs use similar tactics all the time, maybe not for phone records, but for lots of other stuff and it's perfectly legal. She fingered the leaker to the board several times, but they didn't do anything about it. So she got some PIs and said "get it".
Great, Eyeglasses for those who don't RTFA.....but they're only blind in 1 eye!
no, you won't have an excellent credit history, you won't have one at all! If you pay with cash, or check, etc, all the time none of that gets accounted for.. It's like you don't have anything at all. And because you haven't had anybody put info on the report, the employment, income, household information is out-of-date as well... so they will have information 10 years old ... which makes you look like a scammer the loan issuer.
My opinion is that the "pricks" will use it to screen out people, but you wouldn't want to work for them anyway. The more common use I'd think of is "barging" power. If you have a good work record, but bad credit history, they'll know you're a hard worker... but they can pay you less!
That's what Perkins doesn't get... this needed to be quit, they needed to fire the director quietly... Because he's the head of Board ethics, he should have shut up, this directly affects him, because he was informed of the breach and wasn't effective enough to catch the culprit he could be accused of "covering" for the rogue board member. Squeal all he want's but HE should have plugged this leak.. and not left the CEO to track it back to board members.
We all say people like Apple should "clean their house" and stop threatening reporters and such. Well that's exactly what she did. Just like the rough slashdotter hacks to get a mailing/email address of a spammer, RIAA member, etc... It wasn't even Dunn that offically authorized it... I'm sure she just said "dig up dirt" The goal's not to bring a lawsuit against this guy, it's to get him kicked off every board he serves on! Fact of the matter is that most of the board didn't object to the investigation. The spying would have been fine for an employee alleged to do the same things.. the one resigning board member was only upset that he was not allowed to "spin" the investigation because the CEO went over the board's head because THEY weren't faithful.
This whole thing is really blown out of proportion. It's really more of a "cheating husband" thing.... people with power, position, and money, couldn't be bothered to keep the privacy of fellow board members and employees.
but Microsoft is STILL a monopoly! they can screw up as much as they want but when push comes to shove, they have the locked in multi-year OEM contract for just about every single pre-built PC that's sold in the US. Even if they crash and burn they are guaranteed MILLIONS of sales per year! and they can use the OEM contracts to keep the competition out too.
have fun mr perkins!
this sympathy martyr who's causing trouble may not like what Dunn did to the board members, but Dunn acted within the companies employee investigation policy.. maybe a little over with the phone records, but what debt collector, divorce investigator, or insurance fraud investigator doesn't "cheat" a little. The leaks were happening BEFORE she replaced Carly! It was her duty to investigate... even board members. Perkins just didn't like that board members were treated like the rest of us have been treated for at least 3 decades now.
this isn't just Dunn.. it's HP's entire legal department that endorsed the investigation and use of outside contractors. The AG is smoking crack, he won't find that any officer, or paid agent of HP did anything illegal. It's a fine line fraud investigation departments walk every day. They may have stepped over a little, but you know it was the outside agency that paid cash for a brown envelope.. Dunn didn't have any trouble telling the board they got the info because she wanted them to vote the guy off... after he had alredy lied to them before about leaking. This is like the wife that hires a PI to track a cheating husband and shows up to the divorce attorney with a "lost" object that could only have been left by the husband where he was cheating on his wife. Sure, it might have been illegal to obtain it, but to admit it's yours means you were lying to the board/cheating on your wife.
They didn't do anything that's not done by other investigators. When you sign for a background check at your job, the agency may pretend to be a mortgage company instead of an employer to get info about your employment/financial history, most employees already submit to this and don't even know it. When you owe people money and change addresses, they often pretend to be somebody else like a call from the kids school to get your new address/phone number. When your sued by the RIAA they do much the same thing. The tops have to go to insurance investigators... fraud on house/auto is bad, but Workman's comp guys are nuts.. probably even worse that what HP did... and perfectly legal!
Now the case is closest to this case is Divorce investigators... The board is a trusted position, and one or more bozos didn't follow what the rest of the board voted to release to the public. If this was an employee, they wouldn't have "spied" because they'd have been fired for suspicion. Like the WSJ article said, Dunn told them she was investigating and these guys sat right there and lied to the full board! That's dirty dealing just like cheating on your wife... and they got treated like it... HP also sent the full work up... PIs to follow them and take pictures, etc. These guys are supposed to be the "keepers" of the company and were violating that trust. They deserve that they got spied on... the humiliation is about the only recourse the HP management actually has.. suing them would be difficult at best. Much of the bad press Carly got was directly because these guys aired the board's private discussions with her to the media.. would you want to work for a Boss that took disagreements with you public.. to your subordinates and business associates?
I see a plot here!!! Apple will add Nintendo games to iTunes and the Wii will be the media extender box we're all waiting for. Tivo will allow us to download directly to our ipods, and store games and media for the Wii.... It's a master marketing plan!!!!
the pieces are already there if you look up the sex toys sites... but it's not put into a "video game" per se. The online-interactive stuff is already here.
Of course that would be silly, but why is it different in this case which is International?