If MS could give IE away, why couldn't Be give BeOS away to OEMs to install if they wanted! MS seemed to agree at the time that "bundling" another OS with windows was not allowed...now they're arguing just the opposite in court about IE.
Support requires installs...Which several OEMs were willing to provide. Be was designed to play VERY nice with windows or linux on the same computer. The point is that they NEVER got to try! Several OEMs agreed to toss BeOS along side windows and support it..Untill the lawyers called. Legitimately, they should have done it anyway! Be would have a MUCH stronger case if they had...but that's how powerful MS is.
They gave away their system for FREE to anybody who whould just dual-boot it! That seems like a pretty bold step...except that the Lawyers examined the MS contracts and found that dual-booting was OUTLAWED by MS. That's unfair competition when companies aren't allowed to GIVE AWAY a competitor's software!
By the way, the rule is still in effect...and it's the real reason why you can't buy a Dell with Linux...Even if they did put Linux on beside Windows, They can't sell a non-MS bootloader out of the box!
The simplest and most fair thing to do to MS is to put a 5 year ban on exclusive purchases of companies, patents, copyrights, etc. That would be completely fair and also prevent the "shellgame" of changing targets that they are pulling now! It would force that big, huge pile of cash to be absolutely USELESS to further the business. They would have to code their way out of this one!
business wise, it strikes at the core of the problem...break MS up and you just get smaller "pals" that carve up the market...business as usual! It is mostly fair to investors because you are not actually suing them for being "successful" mearly tying their hands to give everyone a chance! The goal of course, is to let other software compaines grow to the point MS can't bully them anymore...and has to deal square with them. Also, there would be extreme pressure from stockholders to grow at the famous "20%" or the stock will tank [normalize] and push MS back into being a normal mega-corp.
On a second note: they should have to publish all costs of software just like a public utility...absolutely zero exclusive deals...and no contracts! If I want a million copies, I get them at the same price as anyone else..no "top ten" execptions either. If this hurts a few "collaborators" like Dell, then so be it.
Unfortuntely, a neat, sharp strike like this would never make it thru the lawyers!
Rockafeller was a BILLIONare when they made the original law! The law was always pretty impotent against the actual executives...Of course there is always the carve up the company provisions too! Many monopolists are not career company-builders...they got a lucky break and brute forced it into dominance...that is entirely different than those who start strings of successful small business from scratch. Monopolists aren't very valuable echonomicaly.
There'll be fewer SUVs on the roads soon! That's good for the economy. It will also server to thin out upper/middle management ranks creating job openings and cashing out some IRAs. At least one incident should qualify for a Darwin Award!
A poster above mentioned they were a crossing guard...think of those implications. The light turns and they lead a group of tikes out into traffic when somebody with a switcher flips the light and plows thru without looking!
You are a poster child for why these should be banned! The first time somebody pushes the button and plows thru you and a group of kids how will THAT pan out in court?
They'll say "it was green" followed by "because I fliped it"! Ideally that would be 1st degree manslaughter...enough to get people to stop posessing them for fear of Hard Time if they screw up.
Just be sure to line the streets with large sheets of paper during school season...Then you can be on a poster too!
Why can't somebody do a good M:TG movie...they made a video game of it didn't they? There's enough backstory to get 1-2 good movies out of in there. And LOTR has proved a market for GOOD fantasy movies.
if you don't remember your youth then you're old you're dead already! Your brain is there to USE, if you don't use the old places too, you forget how. Like I said further down...teachers live so long because they are always revisiting the "old" places with every new class they teach.
Being alive requires going out and living...not just mindlessly working a job from 9-5.
give it 10-15 years and the young adults then will want to remember pokemon just like we remember pumping quarters in pac-man. VH1 has just tapped a whole new market in selling "memories" back.
Notice that school teachers live a very long time being relitively poor and Doctors almost always die young! Here's your reason. I'd theorize that brains "die" from non-play just like any other organ would. You'll find no CEO's, accountants, MBA, etc in the old folks home now days...they are all getting diapers changed! Teachers spend their days around kids! They live diciplined lives, and get to "relive" youthful memories of older classes for years to come. My grandmother was 90 and could still remember names of students in her first classes [1930's] She also learned to use Word [again at 90!] Teachers [and the like] never stop learning! That is one of the keys to staying alive. Of course many/.er fit this too.
America is at or past the human limit of productivity...we work nearly as many hours as child labor in India...and are starting to see the same health problems eliminated in the 1950's.
As far as at-work happiness goes, you are correct! BUT...this only proves that 50-60 hour weeks are physically damaging over long periods. Play is an important part of living too. Just becuse it's not "unit producing" time doesn't mean it's wasted. [though most companies expect to throw away employees over 50 nowdays rather than change their business to be more civil] Of course, you should be doing this with your KIDS! Then you share happy memories [and lessons] with them, while making new ones for them to have. But it's kind of hard to do that when the "overbearing" boss wants 60 hours a week for food on the table! This only proves what the europeans already know about work hours...and for a "civilized" society it is apalling how much americans are required to work. This looks to prove that it is indeed criminal to make people work that much!
Word docs, and Visual studio all leave serial numbers in finished products! How do you think the BSA works. MS knows who owns what ["benifits" of registering] and if you start publishing software with unregistered tools they know! It's what they use to keep corp like adobe or id up to date on tools..no working at home for you!
All they have to do is find the program with the serial number on YOUR computer...you say you downloaded that of a warez site...I'd be thrashing stuff right now dudes. They'll get 'cha for virus writing or pirating software....take your pick now!
But Mandrake, Lindows, Xandros & Lycrois could really do a number if the worked together to package stuff like this across all their brands! Obviously, RedHat and SuSe are out now....and Michal Robertson does have the moxie to try something like that!
Why bother with Slackware or Fedora? They are abandon-ware [ok maybe not slack] by companies that tried and failed to make it..just support the ones that have been free all along!
Normally, I'd take that as extremist, but lately free linux is becomming the only way to go. If companies want to "can" something to sell fine, but it seems that unless they want to support the base [i.e. debian, gentoo, etc] they don't deserve the time of day. Not to be mean, but RedHat and Suse are just means to buying their servers...That's OK if you want to use them, but unless THEY are willing to start putting back [to the originals..not just "dump" source] What's the point of trying anymore.
That said, I'm now an even bigger knoppix fan...It springs from debian, and all the tools get put back into debian for others to use too. It's got the ability to do well as a "canned" distro for somebody, but the author [Klaus] is always careful to stay true to the roots and let others stray...now more than ever I see why.
if you can get people to BUY it you could run it in your garage! Boxes and packaging are pretty cheap even in the US. Problem is that YOU do it by hand unless you can sell X thousand copies. Testing is an issue, but simply getting X people to BUY linux is the first problem to overcome.
yep! I run a IBM iSeries and ain't giving it up any time soon! The thing is a tank and can do anything a linux server can do if you work at it. But mostly it's a great place to stash your data...so combine with novell for managing the network you're hooked up. As long as I can still use free [or suse's normal boxes ~$80] I'll be begging my boss to switch real soon now...
But will Ximian's evolution talk to SuSe's server Without the special connectors [otherwise defeating the point]...That would open the door for companies to buy the server but use free "drone" Linux as necessary for "average" workers.
Everyone does need to realize that paying for clients is over...If I can't download a stock debian or Gentoo as a client end for this setup it will never fly...and I don't want to pay for "users" on my servers either. They sell me servers + maintenance for X servers. I use the servers to make ME money!
Hope not! Suse has a pretty good desktop. If they could bundle more home user features [Winex, DVD, etc] like Lindows they could make a killing once every one starts using it at work...Or maybe it's time for Lindows[creepy chills] or perhaps Mandrake, Xandros, & Lycrois to get a real shot at the home desktop for once!
Suse is mostly a European company and the EU was starting to take a liking to a native software maker. Suse is German which may have had more to do with Munich than anti-MS! They should let it go thru, they we can trade germans back Suse for Chrysler!
Novell's approach compliment's IBMs! IBM is a hardware vendor...they have fab...and like Intel's CEO said, only real men have fabs...consider there are only about a DOZEN cpu-capable fabs in the world! [that could build a P4 or PPC] IBM has the hardware market to itself now...even Apple is buying from them. All they need to do is keep the market hetrogeneous enough to prevent total MS assimilation. Linux helps IBM destabilize the software industry to help it's big-iron servers sell.
The novell deal pretty much wraps the Linux future up for now... if they don't screw it up. Hp and IBM [perhaps SUN] will be able to sell big-iron servers [like before] and novell can provide the "glue" [like before] but with linux as the desktop! As long as they keep a certian level of connectors opened up for free Linux to connect to they won't screw this up.
The key is to be willing to allow hackers to build free systems that work with or mimic theirs...the corps will almost always buy a version for support, or need the big-iron servers. But as a good will move to the community to keep Linux open for the home desktop to grow in it's shadow.
Actually this looks good. Many companies have held off MS assimilation by hanging on to Novell as a backbone...and it just might pay off now! Suse really does have a nice desktop when people aren't sending you MSOffice files all day, or expecting you to use LookOut! Novell has the ESTABLISHED top end networking solution...and now has desktops to sell to it's hardcore fans. I know my former employer will be biting soon...they've been paying for MS Site licenses for years now...and are sick of it!
Mandrake sold a package with Linux Sims and Transgaming WineX!
Wireless networking is a bit of a problem...because the manufactures got cheap and created WinWirless cards [software work just like winmodems] and can't legally give out code because of how they wrote it won't comply with the law to be OSS!
I thought somebody had a legal dvd player for sale...and there were some Lindows PCs with bios players.
As far a linux recipe programs...they're only for code...sorry.
After all, every/.er will be pounding the web searching for the last "free" DTV cards! That will move the stock right now and get TV stations looking at real numbers...As long as the REQUIREMENT for the flag doesn't go into effect till 2005, the current add-in card vendors should start doing Very well [until intel changes all our PCs to PCI express, making the cards USELESS!]
That's an even better question! Like you said, geeks brought RedHat in the backdoor, because they learned the skills ON THEIR OWN TIME and dime. Red Hat is not "normal" linux...but it is the standard. There are differences in Red Hat you don't learn using Debian. On top of that, they changed to a cert plan that cost THOUSANDS of dollars...way to screw the little guy.
While I understand the decision for dropping free linux, and maybe even the desktop, it's stupid marketing on their part to abandon the Red Hat name...I've never had time to use it, looks like I'll be sticking with Suse. SuSe and Mandrake are a least starting to bundle what home users NEED with linux..the pay-for stuff we all dread buying [crossover, WineX] That's the model for the distros...include what adds value and people will pay! Red Hat linux included no "extra" value. They went to alomst all GPL software...to the pains of removing many "free-to-run" programs [acrobat, realplayer, ect] home users needed on some vendetta...no wonder sales tanked.
But, If they don't have geeks using RedHat, we'll just learn to make Knoppix or Gentoo do what we need! Then they'll make Less money!
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If MS could give IE away, why couldn't Be give BeOS away to OEMs to install if they wanted! MS seemed to agree at the time that "bundling" another OS with windows was not allowed...now they're arguing just the opposite in court about IE.
Support requires installs...Which several OEMs were willing to provide. Be was designed to play VERY nice with windows or linux on the same computer. The point is that they NEVER got to try! Several OEMs agreed to toss BeOS along side windows and support it..Untill the lawyers called. Legitimately, they should have done it anyway! Be would have a MUCH stronger case if they had...but that's how powerful MS is.
By the way, the rule is still in effect...and it's the real reason why you can't buy a Dell with Linux...Even if they did put Linux on beside Windows, They can't sell a non-MS bootloader out of the box!
business wise, it strikes at the core of the problem...break MS up and you just get smaller "pals" that carve up the market...business as usual! It is mostly fair to investors because you are not actually suing them for being "successful" mearly tying their hands to give everyone a chance! The goal of course, is to let other software compaines grow to the point MS can't bully them anymore...and has to deal square with them. Also, there would be extreme pressure from stockholders to grow at the famous "20%" or the stock will tank [normalize] and push MS back into being a normal mega-corp.
On a second note: they should have to publish all costs of software just like a public utility...absolutely zero exclusive deals...and no contracts! If I want a million copies, I get them at the same price as anyone else..no "top ten" execptions either. If this hurts a few "collaborators" like Dell, then so be it.
Unfortuntely, a neat, sharp strike like this would never make it thru the lawyers!
There'll be fewer SUVs on the roads soon! That's good for the economy. It will also server to thin out upper/middle management ranks creating job openings and cashing out some IRAs. At least one incident should qualify for a Darwin Award!
A poster above mentioned they were a crossing guard...think of those implications. The light turns and they lead a group of tikes out into traffic when somebody with a switcher flips the light and plows thru without looking!
They'll say "it was green" followed by "because I fliped it"! Ideally that would be 1st degree manslaughter...enough to get people to stop posessing them for fear of Hard Time if they screw up.
Just be sure to line the streets with large sheets of paper during school season...Then you can be on a poster too!
Why can't somebody do a good M:TG movie...they made a video game of it didn't they? There's enough backstory to get 1-2 good movies out of in there. And LOTR has proved a market for GOOD fantasy movies.
Being alive requires going out and living...not just mindlessly working a job from 9-5.
give it 10-15 years and the young adults then will want to remember pokemon just like we remember pumping quarters in pac-man. VH1 has just tapped a whole new market in selling "memories" back.
America is at or past the human limit of productivity...we work nearly as many hours as child labor in India...and are starting to see the same health problems eliminated in the 1950's.
As far as at-work happiness goes, you are correct! BUT...this only proves that 50-60 hour weeks are physically damaging over long periods. Play is an important part of living too. Just becuse it's not "unit producing" time doesn't mean it's wasted. [though most companies expect to throw away employees over 50 nowdays rather than change their business to be more civil] Of course, you should be doing this with your KIDS! Then you share happy memories [and lessons] with them, while making new ones for them to have. But it's kind of hard to do that when the "overbearing" boss wants 60 hours a week for food on the table! This only proves what the europeans already know about work hours...and for a "civilized" society it is apalling how much americans are required to work. This looks to prove that it is indeed criminal to make people work that much!
All they have to do is find the program with the serial number on YOUR computer...you say you downloaded that of a warez site...I'd be thrashing stuff right now dudes. They'll get 'cha for virus writing or pirating software....take your pick now!
But Mandrake, Lindows, Xandros & Lycrois could really do a number if the worked together to package stuff like this across all their brands! Obviously, RedHat and SuSe are out now. ...and Michal Robertson does have the moxie to try something like that!
Normally, I'd take that as extremist, but lately free linux is becomming the only way to go. If companies want to "can" something to sell fine, but it seems that unless they want to support the base [i.e. debian, gentoo, etc] they don't deserve the time of day. Not to be mean, but RedHat and Suse are just means to buying their servers...That's OK if you want to use them, but unless THEY are willing to start putting back [to the originals..not just "dump" source] What's the point of trying anymore.
That said, I'm now an even bigger knoppix fan...It springs from debian, and all the tools get put back into debian for others to use too. It's got the ability to do well as a "canned" distro for somebody, but the author [Klaus] is always careful to stay true to the roots and let others stray...now more than ever I see why.
if you can get people to BUY it you could run it in your garage! Boxes and packaging are pretty cheap even in the US. Problem is that YOU do it by hand unless you can sell X thousand copies. Testing is an issue, but simply getting X people to BUY linux is the first problem to overcome.
yep! I run a IBM iSeries and ain't giving it up any time soon! The thing is a tank and can do anything a linux server can do if you work at it. But mostly it's a great place to stash your data...so combine with novell for managing the network you're hooked up. As long as I can still use free [or suse's normal boxes ~$80] I'll be begging my boss to switch real soon now...
Everyone does need to realize that paying for clients is over...If I can't download a stock debian or Gentoo as a client end for this setup it will never fly...and I don't want to pay for "users" on my servers either. They sell me servers + maintenance for X servers. I use the servers to make ME money!
Hope not! Suse has a pretty good desktop. If they could bundle more home user features [Winex, DVD, etc] like Lindows they could make a killing once every one starts using it at work...Or maybe it's time for Lindows[creepy chills] or perhaps Mandrake, Xandros, & Lycrois to get a real shot at the home desktop for once!
Suse is mostly a European company and the EU was starting to take a liking to a native software maker. Suse is German which may have had more to do with Munich than anti-MS! They should let it go thru, they we can trade germans back Suse for Chrysler!
The novell deal pretty much wraps the Linux future up for now... if they don't screw it up. Hp and IBM [perhaps SUN] will be able to sell big-iron servers [like before] and novell can provide the "glue" [like before] but with linux as the desktop! As long as they keep a certian level of connectors opened up for free Linux to connect to they won't screw this up.
The key is to be willing to allow hackers to build free systems that work with or mimic theirs...the corps will almost always buy a version for support, or need the big-iron servers. But as a good will move to the community to keep Linux open for the home desktop to grow in it's shadow.
Actually this looks good. Many companies have held off MS assimilation by hanging on to Novell as a backbone...and it just might pay off now! Suse really does have a nice desktop when people aren't sending you MSOffice files all day, or expecting you to use LookOut! Novell has the ESTABLISHED top end networking solution...and now has desktops to sell to it's hardcore fans. I know my former employer will be biting soon...they've been paying for MS Site licenses for years now...and are sick of it!
Wireless networking is a bit of a problem...because the manufactures got cheap and created WinWirless cards [software work just like winmodems] and can't legally give out code because of how they wrote it won't comply with the law to be OSS!
I thought somebody had a legal dvd player for sale...and there were some Lindows PCs with bios players.
As far a linux recipe programs...they're only for code...sorry.
After all, every /.er will be pounding the web searching for the last "free" DTV cards! That will move the stock right now and get TV stations looking at real numbers...As long as the REQUIREMENT for the flag doesn't go into effect till 2005, the current add-in card vendors should start doing Very well [until intel changes all our PCs to PCI express, making the cards USELESS!]
While I understand the decision for dropping free linux, and maybe even the desktop, it's stupid marketing on their part to abandon the Red Hat name...I've never had time to use it, looks like I'll be sticking with Suse. SuSe and Mandrake are a least starting to bundle what home users NEED with linux..the pay-for stuff we all dread buying [crossover, WineX] That's the model for the distros...include what adds value and people will pay! Red Hat linux included no "extra" value. They went to alomst all GPL software...to the pains of removing many "free-to-run" programs [acrobat, realplayer, ect] home users needed on some vendetta...no wonder sales tanked.
But, If they don't have geeks using RedHat, we'll just learn to make Knoppix or Gentoo do what we need! Then they'll make Less money!