Thomas is just toeing the party line. The suspected material is relatively harmless and simply sequestering her in a room and a simple pat-down would have been enough without parent intervention.
If the suspected item was any bigger than a few pills or "dimebag" of drugs then a simple pat-down would identify presence of the item and the kids could be ordered to remove it. That pretty much covers Knives, bombs, guns, etc. in all "reasonable" cases. At the point you're at "dangerous" material that can harm students beyond putting the offending student in a room by themself, then you're really in police territory as your invading body cavities, stripping naked, or dealing with dangerous objects or assaulting children.
The big part of the case not being said is that "if we call the police" then the school staff "must" press charges and suspend/expel the student while charges are pending.. whatever they can make stick.... That's what they use to silence the parents in many cases so they don't sue for such behavior.
prescription 800 mg is time released so it doesn't slam your system. 4 x 200 mg will shock your system and then burn out long before your 4 hour wait is up.
Often the 800 mg is prescribed to people the Dr. knows will be taking ibuprofen over the long term (chronic headaches, PMS, surgery) so they take fewer pills and don't OD on the 200 mg tablets (many high does of ibuprofen are very hard on your liver and can cause failure faster than alcohol)
Kids in school are supposed to "check-in" their meds, but in practice it's a bitch because insurance (or drug control laws) won't let you get enough pills to keep both places.. and getting pills back from school is a PITA. It's especially hard for stuff like ibuprofen that the Dr give for things like PMS and they only give out 15 for a month because you only need a few. In practice, I know many girls that age that slip the meds in their purse so they don't have to "ask permission" which is always a hassle and made embarrassing by the teachers just to get an aspirin.
at the point they take the student to another room and sequester (problem of transfering contraband or hurting others handled) them until they decide to call the parents to deal with their child at home, or in the case of something blatantly illegal, call the police who we pay to do that job. Most school districts have liaison officers that is there for just this reason. Of course they'll put the search request with staff's name on school record, and eventually they'll know when the staff is full of BS.
Gotta ask, when is a strip search of a minor in a public place not justification for involving police? Just to CYA.
the other child should get an ass whooping because they LIED, not even because it got some body in trouble. One of the big problems is we have a society DA, cops, presidents, etc that have a whole "code" of what constitutes "telling the truth, the whole truth" rather than simply punishing liars strictly. Kids pick up on this really quickly... those that don't.. go to Slashdot.
put the responsible parties naked in the stocks in front of the school, and let the girl's parents have 15 minutes with each of them! The problem is that the law tries to be "just" and not simply "fair" way too often.
These school staff need stripped naked and spanked in front of the entire school body for this. That would make sure that nobody at the nearby schools does it again.
The whole "cruel and unusual" punishment clause reduces you to being in jail or paying money... when corporal punishment is often the quicker means to an end.
just like the cops tell us though... we only see less than half of crimes reported, so that means there could be twice as many bad cops.. we just don't know. The big problem is that cops don't rat bad cops out quickly and harshly. Junior cops should be afraid to shoot their trainers when they see them commit a crime, just like they'd shoot any other kid gabbing for a "gun" in the hood. (remember, stealing a doughnut... with a gun... is a felony for anybody else) When young cops start street executions of old cops for minor infractions we'll take them seriously again.
the real problem is that many 13 year old girls are sporting B & C cups and wearing outfits 20-somethings would wear. Hell, the classic example are girls like Brook Shields were dressed up on billboards at 16 at the edge of "barely legal". Then wonder why 25 year old men want to see the same girl on the billboard with 6 square inches less clothing over the bits... Teen girls are used as "cocktease" to sell stuff all the time. Hell we call normal, adjusted girls like Miley Cyrus ugly because so many young girls are over sexed, even on the street.
but that's the real "threat" from the government. Film or depict SMG as "Buffy" having sex with a vamp and under the new rules it's a crime because you "called" her 15. That's why they're so careful on the shows like 90210 or Gossip Girl to avoid the "in bed" scenes where their of-age actors might possibly be depicting teens, they have the drama before and after and talk about it graphically but don't show people being "nice" to each other because it might "look" like sex.
"You would have to investigate every man who viewed pornography on a computer." You say that like it's a problem and not the solution to "bad things" morality enforcement is looking for.
but Congress recently "adjusted" the law in a manner specifically to get around that ruling, so that this type of thing, and all the hentai stuff can be "illegal" now as it mearely needs to "appear to be" children, worded explicitly to target things "appearing" to be underaged photoshoped or cartoons.
Poor sap is going to have to be the "canary in the coal mine" (poor thing gets to warn us by dying) to see if SOTUS will stand their ground on the first amendment issue.
they may be "niche" but data centers are the top multiple unit customers, buying thousands of the exact same configurations from OEMS.... they've surpassed the "enterprise cube farm" desktops buy a good margin in that data centers buy the MOST expensive server CPU they can where Enterprises are buying the cheapest desktops they can... Data center customers and Gamers are the only ones that NEED new CPUS every six months... nobody else really cares as they're out buying no-profit Atom based netbooks now.
I think they run AC to the row or rack of servers, then they have just one super efficient PSU powering all the servers in a rack rather than 42 separate power supplies (plus UL enclosures, connectors, extension cords, etc, etc)
Essentially Google builds "rack-sized" blade centers... or at least catching up to what IBM and HP are doing but on a bigger scale, like full racks or multiple racks managed at once rather than just one chassis.
I do agree that chip makers aren't thinking "big enough" with things like their Blade lines.. Google wants to see reference specs that include options for bare motherboards to slide right into your basic 42 unit rack with IO, disk and power all pulled out to the raw basics so Google can decide how to manage the bits rather than having stock OEM boards with such limited options. Google wants to manage a "rack" as a single machine and optimize power and parts across 40 servers as one group, not 40 separate little systems.
but again, that's why petty "skills" tests like those in the grand parent don't really work.... Most graduates would have had 2-3 SQL courses and may or may not have touched it again. A good graduate would quickly catch back up on those rusty skills and not just learn a bunch of "parlor tricks". And they'll know about managing projects, a little bit of business, and know to look forward for your needs in several years not just now.
it's called "eating your seed" Most US companies are so thinly staffed they don't hire the junior staff needed to become the managers. So the "best" managers are all people that learned all this stuff over 10 years without any education and while they accomplish tasks that keep the company running now, they don't have the skills to plan things out to the next level gained in college... because you're paying them to DO work not MANAGE work.
What ends up happening in most companies is that they grow big enough to pay "real" graduates that instantly step up to manage and don't do the "junior" work... and jump ship for a big raise in 3-5 years and don't leave the company any value.
The problem is that schools want to teach "blue sky" theory and not practical application. If you're not somebody that goes to their room and writes projects for fun you won't have any skill that's employable. The same applies to Business majors, Accounting, History, Economics,etc. Most of those are "teach you to think" not actually DO the job.
Back to a building analogy, it's like complaining architecture students can't hang drywall, pour concrete or frame houses... that's not what "architecture" school is about. The problem with IT/IS is that any particular skill isn't really something you'll ever use.... school could spend entire semesters just teaching the 3-4 top brands of SQL syntax, or the half dozen theories of design patterns and never ever teach what YOU need. Just like mechanical engineers build all sorts of projects but probably won't even come close to what their first employer needs.
Of course companies like Microsoft know this and they want to hire the 5% of the class that basically learned the stuff on their own so have experience before graduating. They're after the ideas students already have to add to their IP collection, not really interested in "work to be done". For engineering and business disciplines that's a departure from the days of old IBM or Boeing that hired employees from "cradle to grave" and hired green employees to learn the "company business" on small tasks from older employees. Most IT/IS jobs advertised in the US are really "supervisor" level jobs, even if they're only one person. Most places aren't hiring the junior staff needed to "do the work" and expecting "managers" to plan the work, do the work, and run daily support. Like another poster said, it takes 6 other people to do "their" job when the company writes a contract to have it done correctly.
virtual PC has nothing to do with "windows" it had everything to do with getting x-box (x86) ported to 360 (PowerPC) Windows-on-Windows (used by Vista) has nothing to do with hardware emulation, just apis.. like WINE (only with the actual windows code!)
not really, by that standard the PC is a failure because Best Buy only sells shovelware. Most "computer" stores don't sell any software outside of Window and Office and most Electronics stores sell only games and tools.
yet there is a vast landscape of Windows software available and lots of people buy it online or by mail. Nearly all the stuff I use on my PCs a work doesn't even come in a box.
The same thing will happen with App Store. The good, expensive niche applications will have their own websites and communities.... just like stores that sell photoshop or Autocad aren't very many. If you are part of the market, then you'll know where to find the app. If you're not part of the market, then a $100 app to read EKG's really isn't for you, is it?
I think the key to App store will be to diversify as it grows. It needs to have a "professional" section that's free of "shovelware" apps.. but who gets to decide what's "shovelware"? Is a free app that links to Gutenberg for ebooks "less" than a paid subscription to Amazon Kindle store? Apple is smart to allow them the same footing right now, that may not be the case later. The market is fresh, new and everybody is truly equal on the platform.. EA's developers have just as much iPhone game experience as a guy in his garage that started on the SDK last year. The major players abandon Apple years ago because it wasn't profitable... enough, there's no need to "prefer" them over the new "young and starving" guys developing out of their backpacks at the cafe if the output is the same, is there.
Apple has a much lower barrier to entry.. you only have to publish to the App Store. With DS games you have to get your game to somebody that can ask nintendo nicely if they will be allowed to pay cash up front to manufacture little plastic chips and send them to stores... that takes time. iPhone/Touch users don't have to go to ANY Brick & Mortar store to buy your game.
Sure DSi has downloadable games, but there's only a few million of those.. with version 3.0 of the iPhone OS EVERY iPhone and Touch has access to your game overnight!
you're kidding right, for a population of several thousand highly controlled people they have multiple murder attempts PER DAY at many prisons. Just about any Prison is the proof that "prison" concept is really nothing more safe than throwing thugs in Thunderdome.
in turn, he should reveal the names of the sources that pressured the press to reveal his name!
the solution is for bloggers to attack "paper" journalists and their sources in the same way, directly on their blogs, then see how cute it is. Find your local reporters and start the investigating and dumpster diving!!!
you miss the point entirely. The Video tag supports OTHER formats just fine. The HTML 5 folks want Ogg & Theora not so much to displace other codex but to guarantee every web browser will have it, so ANYBODY on ANY DEVICE can view free and unencumbered and ANY HOST can broadcast it for free. Just like we have PNG as a replacement for the formerly encumbered GIF format, they want the same thing for audio and video and it's been too long coming.
It doesn't have to be the best, it's good enough and it's free to use, free to host, free to publish.
the spec is designed to be open and to use whatever the vendor wants to include. That's good. Along the way the HTML5 folks are trying to throw Free Software a bone by using Ogg and Theora as the "preferred" spec partly as a matter of philosophy and partly as a matter of pragmatism .
The big problem is Apple and Noika. Both of which build hardware and both have significant browser interests now... webkit and Qt (covering Safari, Nokia phones, and Chrome].Both also have no problem being buddy with the media companies and other patent holders. Unlike Firefox and Opera, Apple and Nokia are part of the patent club and see no need to "rock the boat" for "moral principal" reasons. Hence people keep berating Ogg & Theora simply so that they look "right" by not playing along simply because they don't want to and it conflicts with their other interests.
the point is that the codex part of Theora is pretty settled down. Sure it's slow, but it's FREE... really Free just like png or HTML. The HTML5 group isn't mandating that people HAVE to use Theora for commercial sites. What they're really after is that ALL web browsers will support Ogg & Theora as part of the basic specification. Then everybody will be able to have multimedia functions without paying anybody royalties. It's the companies with interest in their own pony that are causing the problems because they like having everybody have to pay "somebody" for multimedia.
from what I understand neutrinos are what to look for as they supposedly travel faster than light but can't go any slower. There are giant detectors in old salt mine a thousand feet under ground (filled up salt mines) looking for just one or two a month that might happen to crash into water molecules on their way thru the planet.
The question is would it be possible to detect enough of them to be sure it was from a specific place in space? The second question is how fast do they really go, if you have no other way to observe them.... it's sort of like observing highway traffic but you can only see car crashes after the fact, you can't see the cars driving normally.
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Thomas is just toeing the party line. The suspected material is relatively harmless and simply sequestering her in a room and a simple pat-down would have been enough without parent intervention.
If the suspected item was any bigger than a few pills or "dimebag" of drugs then a simple pat-down would identify presence of the item and the kids could be ordered to remove it. That pretty much covers Knives, bombs, guns, etc. in all "reasonable" cases. At the point you're at "dangerous" material that can harm students beyond putting the offending student in a room by themself, then you're really in police territory as your invading body cavities, stripping naked, or dealing with dangerous objects or assaulting children.
The big part of the case not being said is that "if we call the police" then the school staff "must" press charges and suspend/expel the student while charges are pending.. whatever they can make stick.... That's what they use to silence the parents in many cases so they don't sue for such behavior.
prescription 800 mg is time released so it doesn't slam your system. 4 x 200 mg will shock your system and then burn out long before your 4 hour wait is up.
Often the 800 mg is prescribed to people the Dr. knows will be taking ibuprofen over the long term (chronic headaches, PMS, surgery) so they take fewer pills and don't OD on the 200 mg tablets (many high does of ibuprofen are very hard on your liver and can cause failure faster than alcohol)
Kids in school are supposed to "check-in" their meds, but in practice it's a bitch because insurance (or drug control laws) won't let you get enough pills to keep both places.. and getting pills back from school is a PITA. It's especially hard for stuff like ibuprofen that the Dr give for things like PMS and they only give out 15 for a month because you only need a few. In practice, I know many girls that age that slip the meds in their purse so they don't have to "ask permission" which is always a hassle and made embarrassing by the teachers just to get an aspirin.
at the point they take the student to another room and sequester (problem of transfering contraband or hurting others handled) them until they decide to call the parents to deal with their child at home, or in the case of something blatantly illegal, call the police who we pay to do that job. Most school districts have liaison officers that is there for just this reason. Of course they'll put the search request with staff's name on school record, and eventually they'll know when the staff is full of BS.
Gotta ask, when is a strip search of a minor in a public place not justification for involving police? Just to CYA.
the other child should get an ass whooping because they LIED, not even because it got some body in trouble. One of the big problems is we have a society DA, cops, presidents, etc that have a whole "code" of what constitutes "telling the truth, the whole truth" rather than simply punishing liars strictly. Kids pick up on this really quickly... those that don't.. go to Slashdot.
put the responsible parties naked in the stocks in front of the school, and let the girl's parents have 15 minutes with each of them! The problem is that the law tries to be "just" and not simply "fair" way too often.
These school staff need stripped naked and spanked in front of the entire school body for this. That would make sure that nobody at the nearby schools does it again.
The whole "cruel and unusual" punishment clause reduces you to being in jail or paying money... when corporal punishment is often the quicker means to an end.
just like the cops tell us though... we only see less than half of crimes reported, so that means there could be twice as many bad cops.. we just don't know. The big problem is that cops don't rat bad cops out quickly and harshly. Junior cops should be afraid to shoot their trainers when they see them commit a crime, just like they'd shoot any other kid gabbing for a "gun" in the hood. (remember, stealing a doughnut ... with a gun... is a felony for anybody else) When young cops start street executions of old cops for minor infractions we'll take them seriously again.
the real problem is that many 13 year old girls are sporting B & C cups and wearing outfits 20-somethings would wear. Hell, the classic example are girls like Brook Shields were dressed up on billboards at 16 at the edge of "barely legal". Then wonder why 25 year old men want to see the same girl on the billboard with 6 square inches less clothing over the bits... Teen girls are used as "cocktease" to sell stuff all the time. Hell we call normal, adjusted girls like Miley Cyrus ugly because so many young girls are over sexed, even on the street.
but that's the real "threat" from the government. Film or depict SMG as "Buffy" having sex with a vamp and under the new rules it's a crime because you "called" her 15. That's why they're so careful on the shows like 90210 or Gossip Girl to avoid the "in bed" scenes where their of-age actors might possibly be depicting teens, they have the drama before and after and talk about it graphically but don't show people being "nice" to each other because it might "look" like sex.
"You would have to investigate every man who viewed pornography on a computer."
You say that like it's a problem and not the solution to "bad things" morality enforcement is looking for.
but Congress recently "adjusted" the law in a manner specifically to get around that ruling, so that this type of thing, and all the hentai stuff can be "illegal" now as it mearely needs to "appear to be" children, worded explicitly to target things "appearing" to be underaged photoshoped or cartoons.
Poor sap is going to have to be the "canary in the coal mine" (poor thing gets to warn us by dying) to see if SOTUS will stand their ground on the first amendment issue.
they may be "niche" but data centers are the top multiple unit customers, buying thousands of the exact same configurations from OEMS .... they've surpassed the "enterprise cube farm" desktops buy a good margin in that data centers buy the MOST expensive server CPU they can where Enterprises are buying the cheapest desktops they can... Data center customers and Gamers are the only ones that NEED new CPUS every six months... nobody else really cares as they're out buying no-profit Atom based netbooks now.
I think they run AC to the row or rack of servers, then they have just one super efficient PSU powering all the servers in a rack rather than 42 separate power supplies (plus UL enclosures, connectors, extension cords, etc, etc)
Essentially Google builds "rack-sized" blade centers... or at least catching up to what IBM and HP are doing but on a bigger scale, like full racks or multiple racks managed at once rather than just one chassis.
I do agree that chip makers aren't thinking "big enough" with things like their Blade lines.. Google wants to see reference specs that include options for bare motherboards to slide right into your basic 42 unit rack with IO, disk and power all pulled out to the raw basics so Google can decide how to manage the bits rather than having stock OEM boards with such limited options. Google wants to manage a "rack" as a single machine and optimize power and parts across 40 servers as one group, not 40 separate little systems.
but again, that's why petty "skills" tests like those in the grand parent don't really work.... Most graduates would have had 2-3 SQL courses and may or may not have touched it again. A good graduate would quickly catch back up on those rusty skills and not just learn a bunch of "parlor tricks". And they'll know about managing projects, a little bit of business, and know to look forward for your needs in several years not just now.
it's called "eating your seed" Most US companies are so thinly staffed they don't hire the junior staff needed to become the managers. So the "best" managers are all people that learned all this stuff over 10 years without any education and while they accomplish tasks that keep the company running now, they don't have the skills to plan things out to the next level gained in college... because you're paying them to DO work not MANAGE work.
What ends up happening in most companies is that they grow big enough to pay "real" graduates that instantly step up to manage and don't do the "junior" work... and jump ship for a big raise in 3-5 years and don't leave the company any value.
The problem is that schools want to teach "blue sky" theory and not practical application. If you're not somebody that goes to their room and writes projects for fun you won't have any skill that's employable. The same applies to Business majors, Accounting, History, Economics,etc. Most of those are "teach you to think" not actually DO the job.
Back to a building analogy, it's like complaining architecture students can't hang drywall, pour concrete or frame houses... that's not what "architecture" school is about. The problem with IT/IS is that any particular skill isn't really something you'll ever use.... school could spend entire semesters just teaching the 3-4 top brands of SQL syntax, or the half dozen theories of design patterns and never ever teach what YOU need. Just like mechanical engineers build all sorts of projects but probably won't even come close to what their first employer needs.
Of course companies like Microsoft know this and they want to hire the 5% of the class that basically learned the stuff on their own so have experience before graduating. They're after the ideas students already have to add to their IP collection, not really interested in "work to be done". For engineering and business disciplines that's a departure from the days of old IBM or Boeing that hired employees from "cradle to grave" and hired green employees to learn the "company business" on small tasks from older employees. Most IT/IS jobs advertised in the US are really "supervisor" level jobs, even if they're only one person. Most places aren't hiring the junior staff needed to "do the work" and expecting "managers" to plan the work, do the work, and run daily support. Like another poster said, it takes 6 other people to do "their" job when the company writes a contract to have it done correctly.
virtual PC has nothing to do with "windows" it had everything to do with getting x-box (x86) ported to 360 (PowerPC) Windows-on-Windows (used by Vista) has nothing to do with hardware emulation, just apis.. like WINE (only with the actual windows code!)
not really, by that standard the PC is a failure because Best Buy only sells shovelware. Most "computer" stores don't sell any software outside of Window and Office and most Electronics stores sell only games and tools.
yet there is a vast landscape of Windows software available and lots of people buy it online or by mail. Nearly all the stuff I use on my PCs a work doesn't even come in a box.
The same thing will happen with App Store. The good, expensive niche applications will have their own websites and communities.... just like stores that sell photoshop or Autocad aren't very many. If you are part of the market, then you'll know where to find the app. If you're not part of the market, then a $100 app to read EKG's really isn't for you, is it?
I think the key to App store will be to diversify as it grows. It needs to have a "professional" section that's free of "shovelware" apps.. but who gets to decide what's "shovelware"? Is a free app that links to Gutenberg for ebooks "less" than a paid subscription to Amazon Kindle store? Apple is smart to allow them the same footing right now, that may not be the case later. The market is fresh, new and everybody is truly equal on the platform.. EA's developers have just as much iPhone game experience as a guy in his garage that started on the SDK last year. The major players abandon Apple years ago because it wasn't profitable... enough, there's no need to "prefer" them over the new "young and starving" guys developing out of their backpacks at the cafe if the output is the same, is there.
Apple has a much lower barrier to entry.. you only have to publish to the App Store. With DS games you have to get your game to somebody that can ask nintendo nicely if they will be allowed to pay cash up front to manufacture little plastic chips and send them to stores... that takes time. iPhone/Touch users don't have to go to ANY Brick & Mortar store to buy your game.
Sure DSi has downloadable games, but there's only a few million of those.. with version 3.0 of the iPhone OS EVERY iPhone and Touch has access to your game overnight!
you're kidding right, for a population of several thousand highly controlled people they have multiple murder attempts PER DAY at many prisons. Just about any Prison is the proof that "prison" concept is really nothing more safe than throwing thugs in Thunderdome.
in turn, he should reveal the names of the sources that pressured the press to reveal his name!
the solution is for bloggers to attack "paper" journalists and their sources in the same way, directly on their blogs, then see how cute it is. Find your local reporters and start the investigating and dumpster diving!!!
you miss the point entirely. The Video tag supports OTHER formats just fine. The HTML 5 folks want Ogg & Theora not so much to displace other codex but to guarantee every web browser will have it, so ANYBODY on ANY DEVICE can view free and unencumbered and ANY HOST can broadcast it for free. Just like we have PNG as a replacement for the formerly encumbered GIF format, they want the same thing for audio and video and it's been too long coming.
It doesn't have to be the best, it's good enough and it's free to use, free to host, free to publish.
the spec is designed to be open and to use whatever the vendor wants to include. That's good. Along the way the HTML5 folks are trying to throw Free Software a bone by using Ogg and Theora as the "preferred" spec partly as a matter of philosophy and partly as a matter of pragmatism .
The big problem is Apple and Noika. Both of which build hardware and both have significant browser interests now... webkit and Qt (covering Safari, Nokia phones, and Chrome].Both also have no problem being buddy with the media companies and other patent holders. Unlike Firefox and Opera, Apple and Nokia are part of the patent club and see no need to "rock the boat" for "moral principal" reasons. Hence people keep berating Ogg & Theora simply so that they look "right" by not playing along simply because they don't want to and it conflicts with their other interests.
the point is that the codex part of Theora is pretty settled down. Sure it's slow, but it's FREE... really Free just like png or HTML. The HTML5 group isn't mandating that people HAVE to use Theora for commercial sites. What they're really after is that ALL web browsers will support Ogg & Theora as part of the basic specification. Then everybody will be able to have multimedia functions without paying anybody royalties. It's the companies with interest in their own pony that are causing the problems because they like having everybody have to pay "somebody" for multimedia.
from what I understand neutrinos are what to look for as they supposedly travel faster than light but can't go any slower. There are giant detectors in old salt mine a thousand feet under ground (filled up salt mines) looking for just one or two a month that might happen to crash into water molecules on their way thru the planet.
The question is would it be possible to detect enough of them to be sure it was from a specific place in space? The second question is how fast do they really go, if you have no other way to observe them.... it's sort of like observing highway traffic but you can only see car crashes after the fact, you can't see the cars driving normally.