That link refers to an article NOT about the original issue. It's about a problem people are trying to relate to it. I see it as just another Amazon screwup. In the "testing" that was done, no one was charged a price they didn't agree to.
What are you rambling about? They didn't switch prices on people. People were shown the price they paid. That's it. They didn't see one price and get charged another.
Raising prices? OH NO! Higher prices aren't really a good thing, but it isn't some crime. They didn't tell the consumer one price and then charge another. People saw what they were going to pay!
People agreed to buy an item at a price. Why should Amazon apologize? I don't have to give the same price to everyone on items I sell. I think it's very admirable what they are doing by refunding the difference.
If you're asking this, I don't think you've used a TiVo. For the 10th time, it isn't just a digital VCR.
First, they cost $199 for the 20 hour model right now. $199!!! You aren't going to build anything close for that. Take that 20 hour and add a big HD to it sometime.
Second, there is an enormous amount of effort put in to the software and interface. It does more than just record a show at a certain time. Check one out, and you'll be hooked.
This is a non-issue. If you agree to a price when you buy something, the only person you can blame later is yourself. So what if they are doing price testing? Shop around. Show them you won't pay the higher price.
I didn't agree to any license on their device. That's the issue here. They messed up and didn't put a license on the package, you only saw it if you installed the Windows software. I never installed that software, and I'm sure many others here haven't.
I put HelixGnome on our Ultra 5 the other day running Solaris 2.7 and the install went just fine. It loads up with no problems and I get the comfort of my Gnome environment.:)
Of course they track what you scan. That's the whole idea of these devices. They aren't just being nice and giving you something. They expect marketing data in return.
They messed up. If you don't install the Digital Convergence software you NEVER agree to any license or agreement. When I got mine from Radio Shack I signed nothing. I also didn't even break a seal to get it out of the bag it came in. I also never installed their software. I'm using the above mentioned software for linux.
Since they can't win this, I hope the linux community keeps writing software for this device and DOES NOT ever go through the Digital Convergence servers. Let's show them what happens when letters like this get thrown around without thinking.
You can't even compare the office products. That's like asking why VW charges 15K for a car when Porsche charges $50K. They are both cars, right?!
I've used the Linux office suites..they just aren't as good as MS Office.
As for Linux to WIndows cost, that's different too. RedHat's cost is mostly, or almost all, in boxes and manuals. Microsoft has to pay a lot of people to write Windows. Totally different expenses there.
I used to be with Wang Global and was part of the team working on our internal Win2K during the beta period. I know for a fact that Microsoft had just finished their internal roll-out as we worked with them to help us prepare for ours.
Don't believe everything you read....especially on/.
They were showing Evolution and the new "red carpet" installer at LinuxWorld. They both look GREAT. They mentioned that native Exchange server support would be in the second release of Evolution and the first release would use IMAP.
The new installer is very nice. True point and click app install. While not to everyone's liking, I'm sure it will help a lot of new users. They also gave out cool shirts and some stuffed Helix monkeys.:)
The idea is to license your version to other people. There are a number of people competing in this "Print to Web" market right now. Time will tell who will come out the winner that will set a standard.
So I won't get in to it.:) BUT, Digimarc uses digital watermarking. You hold the ad up to a web cam and it reads the watermark and goes to the ad's page. I've played around with it and sometimes it works pretty well, other times it doesn't.
I mentioned my wife going for a reason and forgot to mention it....
The Linux show is 99.9% male, we all know that. Well, almost all computer shows are close to that. For the most part she didn't have a problem but a few vendors really didn't offer up much information to her. Example, she works for a small company and they need a firewall. She talked to every firewall vendor at the show just getting info. Most such as Phoenix (part of Cobalt) and Network Appliance were very helpful, but some would talk to me and go over the product. I was just standing there looking around, and she was the one asking questions.
Maybe some vendors do this because they don't see many woman in the field...or maybe women see this and that's WHY there aren't many women in the field...but either way....
I'll give our take on the show. My wife (from the pics above) and I are both Network Admins. I've been using Linux a bit longer than she has, but she isn't new to it.
The expo was very good. We met some good contacts and saw a lot of nice products/services that show the strengths of linux, and should make our lives easier. Eazel and Helix both had good booths and demonstrations that should really help get the word out to people that don't use them yet. I can't wait for Evolution. We ended up with a ton of t-shirts and a few Helix monkeys to sit on the monitors.
The sessions were "ok". We did the Security track for Monday's half day sessions. The guy giving the class was very good and knew his stuff. It just started out too beginner level for us. If technical people go through the trouble of flying out somewhere, they usually aren't just beginning. The rest of the sessions weren't so good. There were not enough in the Admin/Services track. I'd like to see more along the lines of tuning, optimization, and troubleshooting. Good in-depth sessions. I've gone to "other" vendor technical conferences and had much better, and more, sessions.
We also did the Sair bootcamp and testing for their certification. Don't bother. The "bootcamp" was a joke, with no information. The tests are bad. I know it's hard to make a cert test, but they can have better questions than "Which person wrote Samba?". They got a LOT of complaints from attendees so maybe they will get better.
Companies are tired of paying to send employees to training only to have them get more qualified because of it and running off to another job. I don't think it's that much to ask. They invest time and money in to you and expect something in return. You don't have to go to training..you can work elsewhere.
A year isn't bad. I know one of my employers required you to stay for 3 years if they put you through the complete MCSE training. Figure the complete classes, 6 of them, at about $2K each. I can understand them not wanting to lose the $12K they just invested. But, at that company people refused to sign the contract and it was eventually dropped.
This story leaves out too many details. What warranty did you have? Usually you can pay more and get an overnight replacement warranty. If that's what you had you're better off calling someone at VA than posting to/.
The Bottom line is, no matter how good a company is, you'll always find an instance or two where they have a bad experience. I've used Dell for years and 9 out of 10 times I get the parts I want when I need them. But, last time, it wasn't nearly that easy. Maybe you just had one bad experience.
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That link refers to an article NOT about the original issue. It's about a problem people are trying to relate to it. I see it as just another Amazon screwup. In the "testing" that was done, no one was charged a price they didn't agree to.
Mod this up. He's right. People paid a price that was agreed upon and now they are mad that someone else got it cheaper. Next time shop around.
What are you rambling about? They didn't switch prices on people. People were shown the price they paid. That's it. They didn't see one price and get charged another.
It's on Slashdot isn't it? It HAS to be a conspiracy!
Raising prices? OH NO! Higher prices aren't really a good thing, but it isn't some crime. They didn't tell the consumer one price and then charge another. People saw what they were going to pay!
People agreed to buy an item at a price. Why should Amazon apologize? I don't have to give the same price to everyone on items I sell. I think it's very admirable what they are doing by refunding the difference.
Best Buy has the 20 hour for $299, and you get $100 back from TiVo.
If you're asking this, I don't think you've used a TiVo. For the 10th time, it isn't just a digital VCR. First, they cost $199 for the 20 hour model right now. $199!!! You aren't going to build anything close for that. Take that 20 hour and add a big HD to it sometime. Second, there is an enormous amount of effort put in to the software and interface. It does more than just record a show at a certain time. Check one out, and you'll be hooked.
You can buy cameras that can use some real accessories. Just be prepared to spend a LOT of money.
This is a non-issue. If you agree to a price when you buy something, the only person you can blame later is yourself. So what if they are doing price testing? Shop around. Show them you won't pay the higher price.
I didn't agree to any license on their device. That's the issue here. They messed up and didn't put a license on the package, you only saw it if you installed the Windows software. I never installed that software, and I'm sure many others here haven't.
I put HelixGnome on our Ultra 5 the other day running Solaris 2.7 and the install went just fine. It loads up with no problems and I get the comfort of my Gnome environment. :)
Of course they track what you scan. That's the whole idea of these devices. They aren't just being nice and giving you something. They expect marketing data in return.
They messed up. If you don't install the Digital Convergence software you NEVER agree to any license or agreement. When I got mine from Radio Shack I signed nothing. I also didn't even break a seal to get it out of the bag it came in. I also never installed their software. I'm using the above mentioned software for linux.
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Since they can't win this, I hope the linux community keeps writing software for this device and DOES NOT ever go through the Digital Convergence servers. Let's show them what happens when letters like this get thrown around without thinking.
Good luck Digital Convergence.
The Practical Guide to Solaris by Mark Sobell is good. But yeah, there are FEW good Solaris books around.
You can't even compare the office products. That's like asking why VW charges 15K for a car when Porsche charges $50K. They are both cars, right?!
I've used the Linux office suites..they just aren't as good as MS Office.
As for Linux to WIndows cost, that's different too. RedHat's cost is mostly, or almost all, in boxes and manuals. Microsoft has to pay a lot of people to write Windows. Totally different expenses there.
I used to be with Wang Global and was part of the team working on our internal Win2K during the beta period. I know for a fact that Microsoft had just finished their internal roll-out as we worked with them to help us prepare for ours.
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Don't believe everything you read....especially on
They were showing Evolution and the new "red carpet" installer at LinuxWorld. They both look GREAT. They mentioned that native Exchange server support would be in the second release of Evolution and the first release would use IMAP.
:)
The new installer is very nice. True point and click app install. While not to everyone's liking, I'm sure it will help a lot of new users. They also gave out cool shirts and some stuffed Helix monkeys.
The idea is to license your version to other people. There are a number of people competing in this "Print to Web" market right now. Time will tell who will come out the winner that will set a standard.
We're also a player in this field.
So I won't get in to it. :) BUT, Digimarc uses digital watermarking. You hold the ad up to a web cam and it reads the watermark and goes to the ad's page. I've played around with it and sometimes it works pretty well, other times it doesn't.
I mentioned my wife going for a reason and forgot to mention it....
The Linux show is 99.9% male, we all know that. Well, almost all computer shows are close to that. For the most part she didn't have a problem but a few vendors really didn't offer up much information to her. Example, she works for a small company and they need a firewall. She talked to every firewall vendor at the show just getting info. Most such as Phoenix (part of Cobalt) and Network Appliance were very helpful, but some would talk to me and go over the product. I was just standing there looking around, and she was the one asking questions.
Maybe some vendors do this because they don't see many woman in the field...or maybe women see this and that's WHY there aren't many women in the field...but either way....
I'll give our take on the show. My wife (from the pics above) and I are both Network Admins. I've been using Linux a bit longer than she has, but she isn't new to it.
The expo was very good. We met some good contacts and saw a lot of nice products/services that show the strengths of linux, and should make our lives easier. Eazel and Helix both had good booths and demonstrations that should really help get the word out to people that don't use them yet. I can't wait for Evolution. We ended up with a ton of t-shirts and a few Helix monkeys to sit on the monitors.
The sessions were "ok". We did the Security track for Monday's half day sessions. The guy giving the class was very good and knew his stuff. It just started out too beginner level for us. If technical people go through the trouble of flying out somewhere, they usually aren't just beginning. The rest of the sessions weren't so good. There were not enough in the Admin/Services track. I'd like to see more along the lines of tuning, optimization, and troubleshooting. Good in-depth sessions. I've gone to "other" vendor technical conferences and had much better, and more, sessions.
We also did the Sair bootcamp and testing for their certification. Don't bother. The "bootcamp" was a joke, with no information. The tests are bad. I know it's hard to make a cert test, but they can have better questions than "Which person wrote Samba?". They got a LOT of complaints from attendees so maybe they will get better.
Here are some of the conference floor, and my wife with the BSD devil and Tux. :)
Here.
Companies are tired of paying to send employees to training only to have them get more qualified because of it and running off to another job. I don't think it's that much to ask. They invest time and money in to you and expect something in return. You don't have to go to training..you can work elsewhere.
A year isn't bad. I know one of my employers required you to stay for 3 years if they put you through the complete MCSE training. Figure the complete classes, 6 of them, at about $2K each. I can understand them not wanting to lose the $12K they just invested. But, at that company people refused to sign the contract and it was eventually dropped.
This story leaves out too many details. What warranty did you have? Usually you can pay more and get an overnight replacement warranty. If that's what you had you're better off calling someone at VA than posting to /.
The Bottom line is, no matter how good a company is, you'll always find an instance or two where they have a bad experience. I've used Dell for years and 9 out of 10 times I get the parts I want when I need them. But, last time, it wasn't nearly that easy. Maybe you just had one bad experience.