Re:Don't believe it till you see it.
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K7 Info
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How does that song go? Promises, promises... Well, AMD never made any promises in the past about FPUs being any better than Intel's, but I have always enjoyed AMDs for giving me more processing power OVERALL than any Intel processor for the money. Floating point shortcomings were always present, but I easily could justify buying a processor with twice the processing speed for half the money. Admittingly, in the past I have said that "if I win the lottery I'd buy a dual Xeon system". Well, no promises from AMD on this processor (not even a release date. The June release was a rumor). However, one thing is a FACT and that is the three full FPUs. This will undoubtedly make up for any floating point issues. Unfortunately (for AMD) with recent Intel price drops (and more to come, I'm sure) it will be hard to see how AMD can compete with Intel on price (and make a profit). Even if the processor IS faster in every aspect (which I'm not going to say it will be without knowing the FACTS), if the price is the same as the Intel (I doubt that AMD would price it higher!) than people would continue to buy the Intel, simply because it's an Intel. *sigh*
AMD never gave a release date. June is a rumored month of release. If you want my "opinion" based on "promises" made to me by AMD, I'll be lucky if I see an eval unit by the end of June. If YOU expected to see K7s in or by June, YOU were lied to.
The slot configuration was to allow the use of standard Foxconn slot interfaces in manufacturing motherboards and the PII casing for the CPU (you think Intel makes those casings?). Also, us resellers won't have to run out and buy a special K7 fan to cool the new CPU. We can use PII fans. Hey. They're just trying to make it easier on everyone. Of course, Intel is making it MORE difficult on everyone with changing Slot processors to SECC2 style so all of the resellers have to stock different fans and customers have to know ahead of time what type of sink/fan combo they'll need for their OEM style processor. But that's par for the course for Intel, isn't it?
Probably the most accurate collection of information concerning the K7 on the net, but still largely based on hardcopy and heresay. Biostar, MSI and Gigabyte will be offering Irongate boards. Asus will as well, but will sit on the idea for a few months (typical Asus. Case and point: the P5A).
I'm not sure about the 500 MHz. I was pretty sure the first one would be a 550.
Also, concerning the "MHz" gap between the K6 and K7s: There WILL be a K6 550, so those of you with Super Socket 7 boards will not have to build up all new PCs (yet) to have an AMD with 550 Mhz speeds.
Another important factoid is that the K7 can be run in tandem....or more. At AMD they have a test machine with 4 K7s running NT. They only use 32MB of RAM in it to prove the lack of any sort of bottleneck in such a system. The x86 has come of age! Booo yeah.
How many of you all are in the industry and took the tour of AMD's facility this past weekend?
Guess what! The FIRING SQUAD review is a farce. The photos were press release photos from AMD and the benchmarks were fabricated. The K7 is NOT going to be released for testing for another two weeks (at which time, yours truly will be getting a Fester w/ a 550). The ONLY K7 information that has been released was understood be from an insider at AMD that was buddies with Tom to Tom's Hardware Page. Tom agreed to not display any of the information, but none of the information was concrete anyway. Some info leaked (of course) but nothing specific.
AMD wants to avoid hype and false benchmarks until the final release of the CPU so they have given out NO benchmarks and NO evaluation machines. The only K7 machines running are IN THE AMD FACILITY.
Besides, why would Firing Squad get a K7 unit BEFORE AMD's top resellers and Maximum PC magazine? Even the CEO of AMD appears in Maximum PC, but not the K7?!?! I don't think so.
Re:Mozilla... Is it even worth the download?
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Mozilla M6 released
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Sorry you have had such issues w/ NS. I suppose I am REAL lucky (or not). Admitingly, I have to use both, being a webdeveloper of sorts, and have had IE crash, or not crash, just as much as Netscape. Crashing is a non-issue with me and my "personal" choice of browser, however, is NS due to it's ease of use and speed. Of course, on my Linux box, NS is THE browser of choice and is significantly faster (even with a slower connection!) then NS on my Windows box!
You've got me thinking, now: What is it that is wrong with your PC that causes Netscape to crash so much OR, what the heck am I doing "right" to cause it to NOT crash?!!?;)
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How does that song go? Promises, promises... Well, AMD never made any promises in the past about FPUs being any better than Intel's, but I have always enjoyed AMDs for giving me more processing power OVERALL than any Intel processor for the money. Floating point shortcomings were always present, but I easily could justify buying a processor with twice the processing speed for half the money. Admittingly, in the past I have said that "if I win the lottery I'd buy a dual Xeon system". Well, no promises from AMD on this processor (not even a release date. The June release was a rumor). However, one thing is a FACT and that is the three full FPUs. This will undoubtedly make up for any floating point issues. Unfortunately (for AMD) with recent Intel price drops (and more to come, I'm sure) it will be hard to see how AMD can compete with Intel on price (and make a profit). Even if the processor IS faster in every aspect (which I'm not going to say it will be without knowing the FACTS), if the price is the same as the Intel (I doubt that AMD would price it higher!) than people would continue to buy the Intel, simply because it's an Intel. *sigh*
AMD never gave a release date. June is a rumored month of release. If you want my "opinion" based on "promises" made to me by AMD, I'll be lucky if I see an eval unit by the end of June. If YOU expected to see K7s in or by June, YOU were lied to.
The slot configuration was to allow the use of standard Foxconn slot interfaces in manufacturing motherboards and the PII casing for the CPU (you think Intel makes those casings?). Also, us resellers won't have to run out and buy a special K7 fan to cool the new CPU. We can use PII fans. Hey. They're just trying to make it easier on everyone. Of course, Intel is making it MORE difficult on everyone with changing Slot processors to SECC2 style so all of the resellers have to stock different fans and customers have to know ahead of time what type of sink/fan combo they'll need for their OEM style processor. But that's par for the course for Intel, isn't it?
Probably the most accurate collection of information concerning the K7 on the net, but still largely based on hardcopy and heresay. Biostar, MSI and Gigabyte will be offering Irongate boards. Asus will as well, but will sit on the idea for a few months (typical Asus. Case and point: the P5A).
I'm not sure about the 500 MHz. I was pretty sure the first one would be a 550.
Also, concerning the "MHz" gap between the K6 and K7s: There WILL be a K6 550, so those of you with Super Socket 7 boards will not have to build up all new PCs (yet) to have an AMD with 550 Mhz speeds.
Another important factoid is that the K7 can be run in tandem....or more. At AMD they have a test machine with 4 K7s running NT. They only use 32MB of RAM in it to prove the lack of any sort of bottleneck in such a system. The x86 has come of age! Booo yeah.
How many of you all are in the industry and took the tour of AMD's facility this past weekend?
Guess what! The FIRING SQUAD review is a farce. The photos were press release photos from AMD and the benchmarks were fabricated. The K7 is NOT going to be released for testing for another two weeks (at which time, yours truly will be getting a Fester w/ a 550). The ONLY K7 information that has been released was understood be from an insider at AMD that was buddies with Tom to Tom's Hardware Page. Tom agreed to not display any of the information, but none of the information was concrete anyway. Some info leaked (of course) but nothing specific.
AMD wants to avoid hype and false benchmarks until the final release of the CPU so they have given out NO benchmarks and NO evaluation machines. The only K7 machines running are IN THE AMD FACILITY.
Besides, why would Firing Squad get a K7 unit BEFORE AMD's top resellers and Maximum PC magazine? Even the CEO of AMD appears in Maximum PC, but not the K7?!?! I don't think so.
Sorry you have had such issues w/ NS. I suppose I am REAL lucky (or not). Admitingly, I have to use both, being a webdeveloper of sorts, and have had IE crash, or not crash, just as much as Netscape. Crashing is a non-issue with me and my "personal" choice of browser, however, is NS due to it's ease of use and speed. Of course, on my Linux box, NS is THE browser of choice and is significantly faster (even with a slower connection!) then NS on my Windows box!
;)
You've got me thinking, now: What is it that is wrong with your PC that causes Netscape to crash so much OR, what the heck am I doing "right" to cause it to NOT crash?!!?