This place (http://www.amdboard.com/) says that AMD is trying out a 90nm CPU that uses a different socket, socket 900.
The code name of the chip, Toledo, is one that has been on AMD roadmaps for introduction sometime the second half of 2005.
The blurb says that Toledo handles DDR2, and it's hard to see what else might cause the need for a new socket. It also says that dual cores coming after Toledo will also use DDR2.
While I don't think the article is correct in assuming that we'll see these products rather soon, it probably is correct in assuming that a DDR2 compatible platform is not going to be compatible with any Hammers or mobos you'll be able to buy anytime soon.
Effectively that means if you want a DDR2 Hammer system, you'll have to wait until all the pieces of the puzzle are together before you do so. You won't be able to buy a Hammer now, and buy a new mobo and memory later.
And then based on AMDs current handeling of the chips, they'll probably stop making socket 939 processors just like they will be dropping the AMD Socket A and Socket 940/754 chips
you know, your totally right.. the changed from 30 pin memory to 72, then DIMM, DDR. Intel changing from a socket to a slot then back to a socket, etc.
however, each one of those was a MAJOR change in in the architecture and took a while to implement the change.
AMD has release what, 4 incompatable sockets in the past year? 939, 940,754, 740
And soon it will be releasing another socket, socket 900.
Im sure they had other socketed versions that they never made public.
to make things worse is that AMD has stated that they wont be putting PCI Express on socket A (Athlon) or socket 754 systems.
So, all those people that went out and bought a socket 754 motherboard are screwed when PCI express starts to be rolled out.
in contrast, the Socket 7 arch for Intel lasted from the introduction to PCI to the introduction of AGP. I have a socket 7 motherboard with 2 ISA, 4 PCI and an AGP slot that i can run anything from a p133, P233, and the AMD K7 processor line.
Also, going from vinyl to CD/DVD took decades and is simply un-comparable to the stupidity of AMD changing their sockets 3-4 times in a year.
in our drafting class we had to draw isomeric objects on paper, it was NOT fun or easy. a simple 12 point object could have over 3 times as many points in the final image.
you do know that someone has to pay for the paper to be printed and if its a long run (> 5,000) with more than 4 pages, then it will cost a LOT of money to be printed.
I doubt that the school charges a fee for the paper so they must get funds from yes, evil advertising.
your right, they have little rights to regulate a private business
but remember, google is going public. A lot of things will happen that some people think google isnt ready for. when you go public there is nothing that is private anymore
Photos usually are not 2400dpi, or even 1200dpi, to begin with. they are resampled to 2400dpi by so they can be plated.
you can and will be able to tell the difference between two screens plated at two different DPI (2400, 1200) because the dots would be twice the size. It doesnt change the line screen.
Experianced printers can tell the difference if the image was bitmapped or a JPEG, TIFF, and if something was plated at 2400 dpi or 1800dpi.
I think that you are thinking that there is a relation between DPI and lines per inch. based on my exp in the pressroom and plateroom, there isnt.
i'll mess around at work tonight and try to make some example files.
Line screen is different than DPI. you can print out 133lpi images at 600dpi or 2400dpi , the only thing that would differ is the size of the dots (and shape).
the best answer to what a half-tone is comes from microsoft:)
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/experiences/glo ssary_h-n.asp halftonen. A printed reproduction of a photograph or other illustration, using evenly spaced spots of varying diameter to produce apparent shades of gray. The darker the shade at a particular point in the image, the larger the corresponding spot in the halftone. In traditional publishing, halftones are created by photographing an image through a screen. In desktop publishing, each halftone spot is represented by an area containing a number of dots printed by a laser printer or digital imagesetter. In both cases, the frequency of the halftone dots is measured in lines per inch. Higher printer resolution enables effective use of higher frequencies of halftone dots, enhancing image quality. See also dithering, gray scale.
where i work, we print some of the highest quality work in the entire printing industry. A couple of our best publications take their photos with normal cameras you'd get at best buy. Of course they can afford the $900-$1000 camera, but the photo quality is absolutly amazing. you would never guess that it was a consumer digital camera.
I can attest to this difference between analog and digital too, but i'd probably get modded off topic.
I work for the largest printing company in the world (who will go un-named), and all of our work in pre-press is going to digital. We had to convince customers that digital plate makeing is far better than the old film to plate methods. one publisher sent a book in both formats and we plated it and printed it on the same press.
The digital plates looked far superior to the film. the colors where more viberant, the images where crisper, it was in register (very hard to do with film). Everything about it was better than film, from speed of platemaking to cost to the publisher.
they junked the film on that issue and we now have 4 titles that still refuse to switch to digital production.
Oh, another thing, what makes a photo glossy in a magazine is the paper and the skill of the printers. the resolution of the photo makes no difference.
most covers have a UV Coating or varnish coating on them. there is a gloss and a matte coating, which will give it an extra shine or dull any reflections from the paper. This coating is'nt for that purpose, it is to protect the cover from abuse (sun, kids fingers, etc).
seeing as how i work in the print industry, i can assure you that most, magazines are printed at 2400dpi onto plate (the dots are usually.001" in size), and at 133 to 150 line screen. we have uber programs that will render the page into super high res images for printing onto plate. On the old Conventional or film to plate operations, I am not sure. I guess that would depend on the actual photo used for making the film masks. However this is going away because current CTP (computer to plate) technology is far superior to any film work.
score one for digital media
If you take a normal photo and blow it up into a poster (say a 5x7 to 20x29) you will loose a lot of resolution. We recently did a poster that the original photo was shot at 600 dpi, blown up to print size it was only 60 dpi. however the line screen is still 133 or 150, so the photo still looks pretty good and isnt blurry.
I can think of no reason to have an OS that requires a video card (and drivers),
the OS requires no video card, the BIOS of your motherboard does. if you take out the video card, your computer wont boot.
and prompts the first time you boot without a pointing device connected, on a system that requires no interface or direct interaction
So, how do you install and setup a server without having a monitor attatched to it?
This is the whole idea of the accountability thing.
If you live in china or where ever and dont want to get in trouble for writing encryption code, DONT. I mean how hard is that? If you choose to do something illegal you SHOULD be accountable for your actions and any repercussions from those actions. You probably bitch and moan on how you where going just "5mph" over the speed limit when you get pulled over for doing 50 in a 30 or complain that you were going around the block and didnt need a seatbelt.
If you sign a contract for work that says your employer owns all of the work you do during non-work hours, you should of read it first. If you did and you signed it anyways, dont bitch about having to give up everything you write.
If a closed source company tries to sue you for thinking that your code is close to theirs, you must ask yourself, how much water does their claim hold if there is no way you can view the sources? in a court case, you, the defense has a right to see their evidence against you, and the code that you are infringing on. You do have rights you know. This is easily solved by saying "whoops, I didnt know and i'll change/remove, show me which lines". Again, this is taking responsibility for your own actions. why do people think they can do things and not take any responsability for it? Worse yet, what if you where the project maintainer? since no one signed the code and now you submitted it, your name is on it and you are in trouble.
this last one is just stupid, "Or people who had a great idea, but couldn't possibly know someone else had come up with the idea and copyrighted or patented it."
What about having a great idea, not doing jack about it, then 3 years later some company does the same thing and makes a mint from it? What can you do about it then? you: "hey that was my idea 3 years ago and your violating GPL" them: "oh ya, wheres your proof" you: "oh right, i have none"
If you have a great idea that might or might not be copyrighted or patended and your too lazy to search around to see if it actually is, you shouldn't be contributing code to any project.
I guess the only downside that i can think of is that it holds people to take responsibility for what they do.
man, i know exactly what you are talking about, except i had a lost a checkbook, reported the range of numbers, closed that account and got a new one w/amcore bank. This was done at an office, not over the phone.
about a month later i get a letter in the mail saying that my account (the closed one) was overdrawn ~400. called up amcore and they said that they never recieved any notification of lost/stolen checks nor a cancellation of my account. soon after ( a few days), i get another bounced check statement and then a letter to go to court. i got it fixed in court (judges rock), but the would not fix my account with the credit agencies. this was almost 4 years ago and i have ~3 years left before that is cleared off my credit record.
closed the new one and got a US Bank account, Never had an amcore account again.
i've read that the story behind the NT name was that at the time of development, it wasnt being written for the Intel X86 processor, but for an upcoming proc called N-ten or N-TEN or something like that (not sure). They didnt have a working processor yet but they wrote an emulator for the windows team to develop with. After the processor fell through they overhauled the kernel and hardware layers to create the HAL (hardware abstraction layer) so that they could port it to whatever system they liked.
when they shifted to X86 development they didnt change the NT name but changed what it stood for (New Technology)
6. its written in that history of Windows that was posted on slashdot long ago that microsoft hired a bunch of the VMS kernel devs to work on the OS/2 joint project between IBM and MS. then when that fell through they used what they had to make NT.
Seeing how these guys wrote VMS, you can safely assume that many of the same ideas that VMS had, NT had too.
hospitals, doctors, nurses, etc, are sworn to try to save lives no matter what.
Microsoft sells a product that you steal.
these are two totally irrelevent subjects.
a better one would be if you stole a car, and then because of the firestone tires that were OEM installed and exploded while driving it normally on the highway, you tried to sue GM.
defense: My client was almost killed due to firestone tires prosecution: Your client stole the car.
As explained on overclockers.com (copied so not to/. the guys website)
According to Reuters and the Wall Street Journal, Intel is supposed to officially announce today that they're not going to bother with the Tejas generation of PIVs/Xeons.
This ought not come as too much of a surprise to those of you who read this last March, and we openly wondered whether Tejas was going to see the light of day a little while back.
Yes, this a major announcement that will effectively knock Intel out of the box in the cutting-edge overclocking world for at least something close to eighteen months. This essentially leaves us with whatever AMD chooses to offer.
Nonetheless, the biggest aspect to this story is not the "what," but the "why."
A few days ago, the chief technology officer at IBM, Bernie Meyerson, told an industry forum that the traditional and expected increase in speed just from shrinking the manufacturing process is dead.
To quote:
"Somewhere between 130-nm and 90-nm the whole system fell apart. Things stopped working and nobody seemed to notice. . . . Scaling is already dead but nobody noticed it had stopped breathing and its lips had turned blue."
(This comes from the company that AMD paid $46 million dollars to help build 90nm chips, BTW. It also comes from the company that was supposed to have 3GHz 90nm PowerPC chips ready for Apple in a couple months, but is now talking about eventually getting to 2.5GHz.)
Meyerson said the biggest reason for the problem is power leakage, the same as what Intel has been saying. He also pointed out that the problem with power leakage is "nonlinear."
That's a fancy term for saying "it doesn't get slowly worse; you get past a certain point, and everything suddenly falls apart on you."
It's Not Quite Over
Mr. Meyerson is not saying "it's all over." What he is saying is that the era of easy, big gains from each new generation of processors is over. As he put it, "60 to 70 percent of the benefit of each new generation of manufacturing would have to come from innovation."
By that he means technologies like SOI and strained silicon, though he implied that these were not long-term fixes to the problem.
What is clear is that future technological advances are going to be a lot harder to do, cost a good deal more, and being a lot harder to work with than has been the case in the past. The old way of doing things is broken, and there's no mature alternative around at the moment.
Perhaps one will eventually show up, but the magic bag is empty at the moment, and it will probably take years to come up with some major new tricks.
In the meantime, progress will slow down.
Playing Noah's Ark
In all likelihood, Intel's short-term answer to this problem is to stop revving and start adding. Processors, that is. The son of Pentium-M which will become Intel's next generation will almost certainly be a two-headed beast. In short, a 6GHz processor won't be a 6GHz processor; it will be two 3s.
AMD plans to do exactly the same (which ought to tell you that SOI, good as it is, is no long-term fix to this problem).
This is hardly something either party would willingly want to do rather than increase speed, simply because the vast majority of current programming does not (or even cannot) work better with two-headed action.
It's certainly not something Microsoft want to deal with on the OS side, and probably is a big reason why Longhorn keeps getting pushed back, much less the armies of non-MS programmers out there.
It's going to happen because the hardware people don't have a choice in the matter.
That rocks, if i had mod points and i didnt post in this article, i'd mod you + insightfull, but then you probably wouldnt of posted that in here because i wouldnt of mentioned the perchild situtation..
I personally am waiting for the perchild to be fixed so i can run php in virtual hosts as the user instead of running as apache like suexec does. Having everything group writeable for applications like Gallery sucks as someone could exploit that and delete my photo gallery or who knows.
If you read the article, it says that kexec doesnt do a normal,clean shutdown, so you have to stop all running programs and unmount all partitions before running kexec to do a reboot.
When i boot into linux, it takes longer to start up services than it does to go through the BIOS, SATA raid controller BIOS, grub's 3 second time out, and the loading of the linux kernel (before initd takes over).
however, this program is still in ints infancy and no doubt someone will create an initd that can utilize kexec in a run level for rebooting without a full shutdown. But I dont think it will be that much quicker.
Slashdot Mirror
Sorry, but from overclockers.com
This place (http://www.amdboard.com/) says that AMD is trying out a 90nm CPU that uses a different socket, socket 900.
The code name of the chip, Toledo, is one that has been on AMD roadmaps for introduction sometime the second half of 2005.
The blurb says that Toledo handles DDR2, and it's hard to see what else might cause the need for a new socket. It also says that dual cores coming after Toledo will also use DDR2.
While I don't think the article is correct in assuming that we'll see these products rather soon, it probably is correct in assuming that a DDR2 compatible platform is not going to be compatible with any Hammers or mobos you'll be able to buy anytime soon.
Effectively that means if you want a DDR2 Hammer system, you'll have to wait until all the pieces of the puzzle are together before you do so. You won't be able to buy a Hammer now, and buy a new mobo and memory later.
And then based on AMDs current handeling of the chips, they'll probably stop making socket 939 processors just like they will be dropping the AMD Socket A and Socket 940/754 chips
you know, your totally right.. the changed from 30 pin memory to 72, then DIMM, DDR. Intel changing from a socket to a slot then back to a socket, etc.
however, each one of those was a MAJOR change in in the architecture and took a while to implement the change.
AMD has release what, 4 incompatable sockets in the past year?
939, 940,754, 740
And soon it will be releasing another socket, socket 900.
Im sure they had other socketed versions that they never made public.
to make things worse is that AMD has stated that they wont be putting PCI Express on socket A (Athlon) or socket 754 systems.
So, all those people that went out and bought a socket 754 motherboard are screwed when PCI express starts to be rolled out.
in contrast, the Socket 7 arch for Intel lasted from the introduction to PCI to the introduction of AGP. I have a socket 7 motherboard with 2 ISA, 4 PCI and an AGP slot that i can run anything from a p133, P233, and the AMD K7 processor line.
Also, going from vinyl to CD/DVD took decades and is simply un-comparable to the stupidity of AMD changing their sockets 3-4 times in a year.
in our drafting class we had to draw isomeric objects on paper, it was NOT fun or easy. a simple 12 point object could have over 3 times as many points in the final image.
you do know that someone has to pay for the paper to be printed and if its a long run (> 5,000) with more than 4 pages, then it will cost a LOT of money to be printed.
I doubt that the school charges a fee for the paper so they must get funds from yes, evil advertising.
your right, they have little rights to regulate a private business
but remember, google is going public. A lot of things will happen that some people think google isnt ready for. when you go public there is nothing that is private anymore
Photos usually are not 2400dpi, or even 1200dpi, to begin with. they are resampled to 2400dpi by so they can be plated.
you can and will be able to tell the difference between two screens plated at two different DPI (2400, 1200) because the dots would be twice the size. It doesnt change the line screen.
Experianced printers can tell the difference if the image was bitmapped or a JPEG, TIFF, and if something was plated at 2400 dpi or 1800dpi.
I think that you are thinking that there is a relation between DPI and lines per inch. based on my exp in the pressroom and plateroom, there isnt.
i'll mess around at work tonight and try to make some example files.
the best answer to what a half-tone is comes from microsoft :)
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/experiences/glo ssary_h-n.asp
halftone n. A printed reproduction of a photograph or other illustration, using evenly spaced spots of varying diameter to produce apparent shades of gray. The darker the shade at a particular point in the image, the larger the corresponding spot in the halftone. In traditional publishing, halftones are created by photographing an image through a screen. In desktop publishing, each halftone spot is represented by an area containing a number of dots printed by a laser printer or digital imagesetter. In both cases, the frequency of the halftone dots is measured in lines per inch. Higher printer resolution enables effective use of higher frequencies of halftone dots, enhancing image quality. See also dithering, gray scale.
does that help any ?
where i work, we print some of the highest quality work in the entire printing industry. A couple of our best publications take their photos with normal cameras you'd get at best buy. Of course they can afford the $900-$1000 camera, but the photo quality is absolutly amazing. you would never guess that it was a consumer digital camera.
I can attest to this difference between analog and digital too, but i'd probably get modded off topic.
I work for the largest printing company in the world (who will go un-named), and all of our work in pre-press is going to digital. We had to convince customers that digital plate makeing is far better than the old film to plate methods. one publisher sent a book in both formats and we plated it and printed it on the same press.
The digital plates looked far superior to the film. the colors where more viberant, the images where crisper, it was in register (very hard to do with film). Everything about it was better than film, from speed of platemaking to cost to the publisher.
they junked the film on that issue and we now have 4 titles that still refuse to switch to digital production.
Oh, another thing, what makes a photo glossy in a magazine is the paper and the skill of the printers. the resolution of the photo makes no difference.
most covers have a UV Coating or varnish coating on them. there is a gloss and a matte coating, which will give it an extra shine or dull any reflections from the paper. This coating is'nt for that purpose, it is to protect the cover from abuse (sun, kids fingers, etc).
seeing as how i work in the print industry, i can assure you that most, magazines are printed at 2400dpi onto plate (the dots are usually .001" in size), and at 133 to 150 line screen. we have uber programs that will render the page into super high res images for printing onto plate. On the old Conventional or film to plate operations, I am not sure. I guess that would depend on the actual photo used for making the film masks. However this is going away because current CTP (computer to plate) technology is far superior to any film work.
score one for digital media
If you take a normal photo and blow it up into a poster (say a 5x7 to 20x29) you will loose a lot of resolution. We recently did a poster that the original photo was shot at 600 dpi, blown up to print size it was only 60 dpi. however the line screen is still 133 or 150, so the photo still looks pretty good and isnt blurry.
whoops, no formating! damn preview button
I can think of no reason to have an OS that requires a video card (and drivers),
the OS requires no video card, the BIOS of your motherboard does. if you take out the video card, your computer wont boot.
and prompts the first time you boot without a pointing device connected, on a system that requires no interface or direct interaction
So, how do you install and setup a server without having a monitor attatched to it?
I can think of no reason to have an OS that requires a video card (and drivers), the OS requires no video card, the BIOS of your motherboard does. if you take out the video card, your computer wont boot. and prompts the first time you boot without a pointing device connected, on a system that requires no interface or direct interaction So, how do you install and setup a server without having a monitor attatched to it?
This is the whole idea of the accountability thing.
If you live in china or where ever and dont want to get in trouble for writing encryption code, DONT. I mean how hard is that? If you choose to do something illegal you SHOULD be accountable for your actions and any repercussions from those actions. You probably bitch and moan on how you where going just "5mph" over the speed limit when you get pulled over for doing 50 in a 30 or complain that you were going around the block and didnt need a seatbelt.
If you sign a contract for work that says your employer owns all of the work you do during non-work hours, you should of read it first. If you did and you signed it anyways, dont bitch about having to give up everything you write.
If a closed source company tries to sue you for thinking that your code is close to theirs, you must ask yourself, how much water does their claim hold if there is no way you can view the sources? in a court case, you, the defense has a right to see their evidence against you, and the code that you are infringing on. You do have rights you know. This is easily solved by saying "whoops, I didnt know and i'll change/remove, show me which lines". Again, this is taking responsibility for your own actions. why do people think they can do things and not take any responsability for it? Worse yet, what if you where the project maintainer? since no one signed the code and now you submitted it, your name is on it and you are in trouble.
this last one is just stupid,
"Or people who had a great idea, but couldn't possibly know someone else had come up with the idea and copyrighted or patented it."
What about having a great idea, not doing jack about it, then 3 years later some company does the same thing and makes a mint from it? What can you do about it then?
you: "hey that was my idea 3 years ago and your violating GPL"
them: "oh ya, wheres your proof"
you: "oh right, i have none"
If you have a great idea that might or might not be copyrighted or patended and your too lazy to search around to see if it actually is, you shouldn't be contributing code to any project.
I guess the only downside that i can think of is that it holds people to take responsibility for what they do.
damn, I forget that's horrible!
you can buy a $5,000 honda with 100k on it, replace the timing belt and STILL put 200,000 MORE miles on it.
man, i know exactly what you are talking about, except i had a lost a checkbook, reported the range of numbers, closed that account and got a new one w/amcore bank. This was done at an office, not over the phone.
about a month later i get a letter in the mail saying that my account (the closed one) was overdrawn ~400. called up amcore and they said that they never recieved any notification of lost/stolen checks nor a cancellation of my account. soon after ( a few days), i get another bounced check statement and then a letter to go to court. i got it fixed in court (judges rock), but the would not fix my account with the credit agencies. this was almost 4 years ago and i have ~3 years left before that is cleared off my credit record.
closed the new one and got a US Bank account, Never had an amcore account again.
i've read that the story behind the NT name was that at the time of development, it wasnt being written for the Intel X86 processor, but for an upcoming proc called N-ten or N-TEN or something like that (not sure). They didnt have a working processor yet but they wrote an emulator for the windows team to develop with. After the processor fell through they overhauled the kernel and hardware layers to create the HAL (hardware abstraction layer) so that they could port it to whatever system they liked.
when they shifted to X86 development they didnt change the NT name but changed what it stood for (New Technology)
6. its written in that history of Windows that was posted on slashdot long ago that microsoft hired a bunch of the VMS kernel devs to work on the OS/2 joint project between IBM and MS. then when that fell through they used what they had to make NT.
Seeing how these guys wrote VMS, you can safely assume that many of the same ideas that VMS had, NT had too.
hospitals, doctors, nurses, etc, are sworn to try to save lives no matter what.
Microsoft sells a product that you steal.
these are two totally irrelevent subjects.
a better one would be if you stole a car, and then because of the firestone tires that were OEM installed and exploded while driving it normally on the highway, you tried to sue GM.
defense: My client was almost killed due to firestone tires
prosecution: Your client stole the car.
Who do you think would win?
Forgot link to the actual article
http://www.overclockers.com/tips00579/
According to Reuters and the Wall Street Journal, Intel is supposed to officially announce today that they're not going to bother with the Tejas generation of PIVs/Xeons.
This ought not come as too much of a surprise to those of you who read this last March, and we openly wondered whether Tejas was going to see the light of day a little while back .
Yes, this a major announcement that will effectively knock Intel out of the box in the cutting-edge overclocking world for at least something close to eighteen months. This essentially leaves us with whatever AMD chooses to offer.
Nonetheless, the biggest aspect to this story is not the "what," but the "why."
A few days ago, the chief technology officer at IBM, Bernie Meyerson, told an industry forum that the traditional and expected increase in speed just from shrinking the manufacturing process is dead .
To quote:
"Somewhere between 130-nm and 90-nm the whole system fell apart. Things stopped working and nobody seemed to notice. . . . Scaling is already dead but nobody noticed it had stopped breathing and its lips had turned blue."
(This comes from the company that AMD paid $46 million dollars to help build 90nm chips, BTW. It also comes from the company that was supposed to have 3GHz 90nm PowerPC chips ready for Apple in a couple months, but is now talking about eventually getting to 2.5GHz.)
Meyerson said the biggest reason for the problem is power leakage, the same as what Intel has been saying. He also pointed out that the problem with power leakage is "nonlinear."
That's a fancy term for saying "it doesn't get slowly worse; you get past a certain point, and everything suddenly falls apart on you."
It's Not Quite Over
Mr. Meyerson is not saying "it's all over." What he is saying is that the era of easy, big gains from each new generation of processors is over. As he put it, "60 to 70 percent of the benefit of each new generation of manufacturing would have to come from innovation."
By that he means technologies like SOI and strained silicon, though he implied that these were not long-term fixes to the problem.
What is clear is that future technological advances are going to be a lot harder to do, cost a good deal more, and being a lot harder to work with than has been the case in the past. The old way of doing things is broken, and there's no mature alternative around at the moment.
Perhaps one will eventually show up, but the magic bag is empty at the moment, and it will probably take years to come up with some major new tricks.
In the meantime, progress will slow down.
Playing Noah's Ark
In all likelihood, Intel's short-term answer to this problem is to stop revving and start adding. Processors, that is. The son of Pentium-M which will become Intel's next generation will almost certainly be a two-headed beast. In short, a 6GHz processor won't be a 6GHz processor; it will be two 3s.
AMD plans to do exactly the same (which ought to tell you that SOI, good as it is, is no long-term fix to this problem).
This is hardly something either party would willingly want to do rather than increase speed, simply because the vast majority of current programming does not (or even cannot) work better with two-headed action.
It's certainly not something Microsoft want to deal with on the OS side, and probably is a big reason why Longhorn keeps getting pushed back, much less the armies of non-MS programmers out there.
It's going to happen because the hardware people don't have a choice in the matter.
That rocks, if i had mod points and i didnt post in this article, i'd mod you + insightfull, but then you probably wouldnt of posted that in here because i wouldnt of mentioned the perchild situtation..
:)
o well, maybe someone else will
I personally am waiting for the perchild to be fixed so i can run php in virtual hosts as the user instead of running as apache like suexec does. Having everything group writeable for applications like Gallery sucks as someone could exploit that and delete my photo gallery or who knows.
If you read the article, it says that kexec doesnt do a normal,clean shutdown, so you have to stop all running programs and unmount all partitions before running kexec to do a reboot.
When i boot into linux, it takes longer to start up services than it does to go through the BIOS, SATA raid controller BIOS, grub's 3 second time out, and the loading of the linux kernel (before initd takes over).
however, this program is still in ints infancy and no doubt someone will create an initd that can utilize kexec in a run level for rebooting without a full shutdown. But I dont think it will be that much quicker.