Certainly we have no proof, but having worked several years for a prime defense contractor, I'm inclined to believe him just because this sounds exactly like the kind of shenanigans I saw firsthand in that environment. It's all about CYA, and whether a deliverable actually meets the requirements spelled out in the Statement of Work is often secondary to how much shit the CO or COTR will have to endure if it doesn't. Raising a red flag indicating that sub-standard deliverables had been accepted by the contracting agency was generally frowned upon quite intensely, as no one in the front offices of our organization wanted to bite the hand that fed them. I can't imagine that Lockheed would be much different.
The guy has basically destroyed his career and probably ruined himself financially to present this information, so I would think it's something he feels pretty strongly about.
To say it again: You have to wipe the complete drive. You have to sacrifice your installation. Only then will no evidence be left and no evidence that can tell when the drive was wiped.
Or just use something like TrueCrypt to begin with.
Based on that very simplistic definition, any use of a work in digital form would then be a violation, since copying is necessary step involved in its intended use.
Green would actually need to be a lot less power, since your eyes are much more sensitive to green than anything else. A 5mW green YAG looks a hell of a lot brighter than a 5mW red diode, for instance. Similarly, you're less sensitive to blue, so the blue component would have to be ramped up to compensate. I've yet to see any low-cost solid-state blue units yet, though.
I've had similar experiences with the old CRT Apple Display that I bought six years ago - at 1600x1200, the picture is still absolutely perfect for all intents and purposes, with the exception of the horizontal aperture grille wire shadows that are characteristic of Trinitron displays. And unlike an LCD, I can run it at 1024x768 without wanting to claw my eyes out because of the horrible aliasing.
Frankly, I can only remember having seen one non-CRT display that could cleanly put more dots per inch as my old Apple, and that was a $10,000+ IBM T221, which was a truly amazing LCD unit. More than twice as many pixels as a 30" Apple Cinema at less than 75% the size, and that was more than three years ago.
I second this. Even back in the 80's, when the only direct-to-disk audio production systems around were the Synclavier and Fairlight, I with some of my geekier friends had talked about how cool it would be to be able to apply similar techniques to video. The hardware wasn't available then to support it, but the idea itself is hardly novel.
The problem with the argument of asking for being raped by wearing "sexy" clothes is that you can take the clothes out of the picture, and people will still get abused
Go back and read what I wrote again - I didn't say that wearing sexy clothes was "asking to be raped". Also read where I said I wasn't blaming the victim - the rape is not the victim's fault. However, to say that the victim's dress and behavior could not possibly have been a contributing factor that aggravated the situation is to ignore reality. Well, theoretical reality, since this isn't a real situation to begin with.:-) An attractive girl all made up and in a skin-tight midriff top and short-shorts is going to attract more attention (some unwanted) than the same girl in sweats with no make-up and hair going everywhere.
It's rather like a white guy walking into South Central LA with a shirt on that says "I Hate Niggers". The beating he's likely to receive is not his fault, but it certainly was not the wisest course of action for him to wear such a shirt in such an environment regardless of whether he had a perfect right to do so. All I'm saying is that people need to critically evaluate the potential consequences of their actions and accept that sometimes those actions, though harmless in and of themselves, can be like putting gas on a fire.
Regardless of anything in the world, you will ALWAYS be doing something risky
Life is inherently a terminal condition, so while you can't always completely eliminate risk, you sure as hell can mitigate it. Going back to the example of a young woman being raped at a party - the rape itself is certainly not her fault, but she sure as hell isn't minimizing her risk if she dresses suggestively and gets drunk (i.e. impairs her judgement and ability to act even further) in the presence of a bunch of young men whose behavior she can't really predict. It's not about "blaming the victim", it's about getting people to think before acting and thus avoiding being victimized completely in most cases. Avoiding the rape entirely would be the best situation for everyone, right? Similarly, if I'm walking down the street and there is a group of young men ahead that look like they're up to no good, I'll probably cross the street to avoid them particularly if I'm with my family. While I can protect myself reasonably well, it's much better to avoid a potential conflict altogether. If they happen to be of a different ethnic group than myself, I really don't care if someone decides I'm being racist. My immediate concern is for my safety, and what others think really doesn't factor into it.
However, in today's society there seems to be a big push towards avoiding personal responsibility as it's not very politically correct. I look forward to the creativity of those who will slam me for having the temerity to say such outlandish things. I'm particularly looking forward to the accusations of misogyny and racism that I'm reasonably sure will follow after this post.
While physical ability is somewhat important, any person that has ever hunted large game, actually had shot another in combat will tell you flat out; 99% of the ability to perform your job in those situations to include pulling the trigger is all psychological.
So I guess all those other mostly physical responses like loss of fine motor skills, tunnel vision, hyperventilation, etc. don't factor into that at all? Ask someone that's ever been in a real fighting situation how easy it is to clear a weapon malfunction without already having done it at least a few hundred times - this is something that's a no-brainer when you're in a non-threatening situation, but something you pretty much have to rely on muscle memory to do properly when under stress because you can't think properly or make your hands do what they're supposed to when you've got that much adrenalin in your system. Being able to use your body in that condition requires repetitive physical training, and nothing else is a substitute.
There's simply no comparison between a video game and the training that one needs to be able to consistently deal with violent encounters.
No video game in the history of the world ever shipped late, except because of his crusade. It can't possibly be related to needing more time to finish the game.
No, no - let him claim to have caused excessive delays! If Take-Two decides to sue him for lost income due to his interference, I'm sure those statements are going to be rather helpful.
Florida Congressman Jeff Stearns, who recently chaired hearings in the United States House of Representatives, discovered how thoroughly flawed the video game rating system is, as the ESRB is actually paid for and operated, in effect, by the video game industry itself.
Gee, I hope no one tells Cliff Stearns about the MPAA movie rating system. Then again, the video game industry doesn't have nearly the presence in Washington's wallets as the MPAA members do, and Stearns' big contributors are the telecoms anyway, so it's probably not big on his radar at the moment. In any event, it doesn't help Thompson's case that he can't even get the Congressman's name right.
I wish this asshole Thompson would pull his lower lip over his head and swallow.
Many of the factories in Taiwan & China that manufacture and assemble the consumer electronics devices that you strap to your belt have ISO 9001 certifications, which gives you an idea of what their QA processes are like
No, it really doesn't give you the first idea what their QA is like. The ISO cert says that they have specific processes in place to ensure that they can consistently produce the product as designed, that they follow said processes, and that they keep adequate documentation of said processes. It says nothing about the quality of the design itself or whether it's a suitable product, nor whether the QA the product is subjected to is adequate to catch all the different failure modes it might experience. You can be ISO certified and still produce a shitty product.
Very true, but a lot of the folks that have been deriding VMware as being inferior to Xen are failing to notice that Linux server farming is not the whole point either. At work, I'm limited to using Windows on my desktop, but I still have quite a bit of Linuxy stuff to do and don't have the space or budget to set up additional machines. I also need to have a flexible networking environment in which to test, so I run VMware Workstation. VMware has proven to be a near ideal solution for those needs, where Xen simply is not an option for me. Even if Xen ran on Windows, it still doesn't offer the feature set that I need at work.
I run Xen at home to maintain my web/mail/etc. servers under a Debian dom0 with four domUs, and it works very well in that environment. I've been totally happy with its performance there, and have no complaints. However, Xen just doesn't cut it for what I need at work. That doesn't make Xen a bad product, just that one needs to use the right tool for the right job.
Now, if VMware would just allow VMs access to PCI devices like Xen can...
To elvisisdead, flooey, and the other civil service folks that are on the ball, I apologize for my rant, but I will *never* forget watching one of the GS-13s at the Naval Undersea Warfare Center attempt to argue in all seriousness that ionic air filters worked by means of generating antimatter that in turn collided with the dust particles. He absolutely wasn't kidding, and started getting upset when some of the EEs tried to explain it to him. This guy had a Secret clearance, and was responsible for some of the equipment that went to sea on the 688 attack boats back in the day. Or how about the GS-11 that was on another boat and destroyed three very expensive CRTs before one of the contractors finally stopped him and suggested that he actually try to troubleshoot the problem rather than continuing to go through what essentially had become $30K fuses. Or the GS-11 that insisted on having an anti-static equipment case made from an inappropriate kind of plastic after being advised that the particular plastic would warp badly when being removed from the molds, which ended up wasting more than $10K of Joe Taxpayer's money?
How confident does that make you that the government is qualified to tell the citizenry to shut their hole?
And maybe if the government really were more worried about hijackers they'd make it a bit easier for pilots to get their Federal Flight Deck Officer certification so they could be armed in the cockpit, and put an end to the ridiculous limitations that FFDOs are subject to once in flight.
Hell, for that matter, allow qualified citizens that can show verifiable proof of competency to board the plane armed.
As a civil servant and a part of the system that protects you, I can answer. No, we don't fucking work for you.
You're absolutely right - we get taxed and have to pay your salary, but we get no guarantee of competent service, and you in turn are held to almost no accountability to the public when you fuck up. You disarm the populace "for their own safety", and then refuse to accept any kind of legal responsibility for the safety of said populace, and the citizenry has to shell out more money and give up more freedoms in the aftermath.
Just as you think we're too dumb to protect you, we think you're too dumb to protect yourself.
Oh, whatever. I've worked with a lot of people on a lot of different levels of government, and there certainly have been a few sharp ones, but there also have been quite a few more that worked in government because A.) that's the only place they could get work, and B.) in a lot of civil service (or "simple service" as it's often referred to) jobs, it practically takes an act of Congress to get someone fired no matter how bad they screw up.
They made a HUGE ruckus when Mayor Daley bulldozed Meigs Field illegally for a park
And that's all that came of it - a lot of noise, a trivial fine levied on the city by the FAA, and a later court ruling that Daley's actions were in fact legal. Don't get me wrong - I'm not agreeing with what he did, and I think that Richard Daley and Rod Blagojevich are probably two of the biggest wastes of oxygen within US territory. For those of you thinking I'm picking on the Democrats, I'd also include our fearless leader and his trigger-happy lackey in that list.
Despite what the federal and state constitutions say, it's pretty much a given that the government is going to do whatever it damn well feels like, and unless you've got some deep pockets to fight them in court there's not a whole lot you can do about it within the bounds of the law.
Perhaps, but it seems to me that Microsoft could make a lot of money from Apple selling licenses to people who want to run Windows apps on their Mac, and it's still going to be a while before Vista makes it to market.
My wife loves her Mac, but it'd be great if I could get XP running on it so she's not always bugging me to print Word/Excel docs for her that OpenOffice can't handle.
Or, companies will get a virtualization package, a copy of Windows, and the Windows version of Office just like they would for any other PC. It's a pricier solution but allows more flexibility.
If VMware's Mac product is as good as Workstation is on the PC, then it's almost a given that my next machine will be a Mac - at that point, there really won't be anything of consequence that I won't be able to run on it.
I'm not trying to stir the pot, and I'm also not a Microsoft fanboy, but what Qt offers for that $3300 absolutely pales in comparison to what you get with a VS 2005 Pro/MSDN Premium subscription for $800 less. I've yet to see anything in the Linux world even approach the quantity, quality, and organization of documentation that MSDN offers. It's almost like trying to drink from a firehose.
Of course with MSDN you're limited to Windows, but on the other hand there's plenty of stuff Qt doesn't abstract for which you might have to write system-specific code anyway. For instance, if you wanted to do a really spiffy audio app, you certainly could do a cross-platform UI with Qt, but you'd still have to write for ASIO or DirectSound in Windows, JACK in Linux, and Core Audio on the Mac, and none of those understand any of the Qt types.
Certainly if you can do enough volume on your software sales, it's worth it to buy a Qt license for each developer. For most people I've talked with however, the price is just out of line for what you get and in my experience often results in Qt being passed over for something less capable but much easier to justify financially like GTK or Wx. I'm not busting on Qt for their pricing - if that's what it costs Trolltech to continue development of Qt and provide support, then that's what it costs and they have to do whatever is in their best interests. That's really not the customer's problem, though.
This sort of error is unfortunately endemic in GUI code
It's not just limited to GUI code - some bugs in otherwise plain-vanilla multithreaded code are *hard* to track down because a lot of people don't stop to consider that the system can usually switch away from the current thread any damn time it feels like it, and you have to actively take steps to make sure the state you think you're in and the state you are in coincide with each other.
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Certainly we have no proof, but having worked several years for a prime defense contractor, I'm inclined to believe him just because this sounds exactly like the kind of shenanigans I saw firsthand in that environment. It's all about CYA, and whether a deliverable actually meets the requirements spelled out in the Statement of Work is often secondary to how much shit the CO or COTR will have to endure if it doesn't. Raising a red flag indicating that sub-standard deliverables had been accepted by the contracting agency was generally frowned upon quite intensely, as no one in the front offices of our organization wanted to bite the hand that fed them. I can't imagine that Lockheed would be much different.
The guy has basically destroyed his career and probably ruined himself financially to present this information, so I would think it's something he feels pretty strongly about.
Better yet, put that note inside a completely unadulterated sandwich and see who wigs out. :-)
To say it again: You have to wipe the complete drive. You have to sacrifice your installation. Only then will no evidence be left and no evidence that can tell when the drive was wiped.
Or just use something like TrueCrypt to begin with.
Based on that very simplistic definition, any use of a work in digital form would then be a violation, since copying is necessary step involved in its intended use.
Green would actually need to be a lot less power, since your eyes are much more sensitive to green than anything else. A 5mW green YAG looks a hell of a lot brighter than a 5mW red diode, for instance. Similarly, you're less sensitive to blue, so the blue component would have to be ramped up to compensate. I've yet to see any low-cost solid-state blue units yet, though.
I've had similar experiences with the old CRT Apple Display that I bought six years ago - at 1600x1200, the picture is still absolutely perfect for all intents and purposes, with the exception of the horizontal aperture grille wire shadows that are characteristic of Trinitron displays. And unlike an LCD, I can run it at 1024x768 without wanting to claw my eyes out because of the horrible aliasing.
Frankly, I can only remember having seen one non-CRT display that could cleanly put more dots per inch as my old Apple, and that was a $10,000+ IBM T221, which was a truly amazing LCD unit. More than twice as many pixels as a 30" Apple Cinema at less than 75% the size, and that was more than three years ago.
I second this. Even back in the 80's, when the only direct-to-disk audio production systems around were the Synclavier and Fairlight, I with some of my geekier friends had talked about how cool it would be to be able to apply similar techniques to video. The hardware wasn't available then to support it, but the idea itself is hardly novel.
The problem with the argument of asking for being raped by wearing "sexy" clothes is that you can take the clothes out of the picture, and people will still get abused
:-) An attractive girl all made up and in a skin-tight midriff top and short-shorts is going to attract more attention (some unwanted) than the same girl in sweats with no make-up and hair going everywhere.
Go back and read what I wrote again - I didn't say that wearing sexy clothes was "asking to be raped". Also read where I said I wasn't blaming the victim - the rape is not the victim's fault. However, to say that the victim's dress and behavior could not possibly have been a contributing factor that aggravated the situation is to ignore reality. Well, theoretical reality, since this isn't a real situation to begin with.
It's rather like a white guy walking into South Central LA with a shirt on that says "I Hate Niggers". The beating he's likely to receive is not his fault, but it certainly was not the wisest course of action for him to wear such a shirt in such an environment regardless of whether he had a perfect right to do so. All I'm saying is that people need to critically evaluate the potential consequences of their actions and accept that sometimes those actions, though harmless in and of themselves, can be like putting gas on a fire.
Regardless of anything in the world, you will ALWAYS be doing something risky
Life is inherently a terminal condition, so while you can't always completely eliminate risk, you sure as hell can mitigate it. Going back to the example of a young woman being raped at a party - the rape itself is certainly not her fault, but she sure as hell isn't minimizing her risk if she dresses suggestively and gets drunk (i.e. impairs her judgement and ability to act even further) in the presence of a bunch of young men whose behavior she can't really predict. It's not about "blaming the victim", it's about getting people to think before acting and thus avoiding being victimized completely in most cases. Avoiding the rape entirely would be the best situation for everyone, right? Similarly, if I'm walking down the street and there is a group of young men ahead that look like they're up to no good, I'll probably cross the street to avoid them particularly if I'm with my family. While I can protect myself reasonably well, it's much better to avoid a potential conflict altogether. If they happen to be of a different ethnic group than myself, I really don't care if someone decides I'm being racist. My immediate concern is for my safety, and what others think really doesn't factor into it.
However, in today's society there seems to be a big push towards avoiding personal responsibility as it's not very politically correct. I look forward to the creativity of those who will slam me for having the temerity to say such outlandish things. I'm particularly looking forward to the accusations of misogyny and racism that I'm reasonably sure will follow after this post.
While physical ability is somewhat important, any person that has ever hunted large game, actually had shot another in combat will tell you flat out; 99% of the ability to perform your job in those situations to include pulling the trigger is all psychological.
So I guess all those other mostly physical responses like loss of fine motor skills, tunnel vision, hyperventilation, etc. don't factor into that at all? Ask someone that's ever been in a real fighting situation how easy it is to clear a weapon malfunction without already having done it at least a few hundred times - this is something that's a no-brainer when you're in a non-threatening situation, but something you pretty much have to rely on muscle memory to do properly when under stress because you can't think properly or make your hands do what they're supposed to when you've got that much adrenalin in your system. Being able to use your body in that condition requires repetitive physical training, and nothing else is a substitute.
There's simply no comparison between a video game and the training that one needs to be able to consistently deal with violent encounters.
No video game in the history of the world ever shipped late, except because of his crusade. It can't possibly be related to needing more time to finish the game.
No, no - let him claim to have caused excessive delays! If Take-Two decides to sue him for lost income due to his interference, I'm sure those statements are going to be rather helpful.
Florida Congressman Jeff Stearns, who recently chaired hearings in the United States House of Representatives, discovered how thoroughly flawed the video game rating system is, as the ESRB is actually paid for and operated, in effect, by the video game industry itself.
Gee, I hope no one tells Cliff Stearns about the MPAA movie rating system. Then again, the video game industry doesn't have nearly the presence in Washington's wallets as the MPAA members do, and Stearns' big contributors are the telecoms anyway, so it's probably not big on his radar at the moment. In any event, it doesn't help Thompson's case that he can't even get the Congressman's name right.
I wish this asshole Thompson would pull his lower lip over his head and swallow.
Many of the factories in Taiwan & China that manufacture and assemble the consumer electronics devices that you strap to your belt have ISO 9001 certifications, which gives you an idea of what their QA processes are like
No, it really doesn't give you the first idea what their QA is like. The ISO cert says that they have specific processes in place to ensure that they can consistently produce the product as designed, that they follow said processes, and that they keep adequate documentation of said processes. It says nothing about the quality of the design itself or whether it's a suitable product, nor whether the QA the product is subjected to is adequate to catch all the different failure modes it might experience. You can be ISO certified and still produce a shitty product.
Your windows desktop is not the whole point.
Very true, but a lot of the folks that have been deriding VMware as being inferior to Xen are failing to notice that Linux server farming is not the whole point either. At work, I'm limited to using Windows on my desktop, but I still have quite a bit of Linuxy stuff to do and don't have the space or budget to set up additional machines. I also need to have a flexible networking environment in which to test, so I run VMware Workstation. VMware has proven to be a near ideal solution for those needs, where Xen simply is not an option for me. Even if Xen ran on Windows, it still doesn't offer the feature set that I need at work.
I run Xen at home to maintain my web/mail/etc. servers under a Debian dom0 with four domUs, and it works very well in that environment. I've been totally happy with its performance there, and have no complaints. However, Xen just doesn't cut it for what I need at work. That doesn't make Xen a bad product, just that one needs to use the right tool for the right job.
Now, if VMware would just allow VMs access to PCI devices like Xen can...
Exactly. That's the point of the orginal joke; and what, I hope, made my joke on the joke funny. Because it's true.
:-)
Rather like the First Citiwide Change Bank on Saturday Night Live many years ago.
PR#3, baby....
To elvisisdead, flooey, and the other civil service folks that are on the ball, I apologize for my rant, but I will *never* forget watching one of the GS-13s at the Naval Undersea Warfare Center attempt to argue in all seriousness that ionic air filters worked by means of generating antimatter that in turn collided with the dust particles. He absolutely wasn't kidding, and started getting upset when some of the EEs tried to explain it to him. This guy had a Secret clearance, and was responsible for some of the equipment that went to sea on the 688 attack boats back in the day. Or how about the GS-11 that was on another boat and destroyed three very expensive CRTs before one of the contractors finally stopped him and suggested that he actually try to troubleshoot the problem rather than continuing to go through what essentially had become $30K fuses. Or the GS-11 that insisted on having an anti-static equipment case made from an inappropriate kind of plastic after being advised that the particular plastic would warp badly when being removed from the molds, which ended up wasting more than $10K of Joe Taxpayer's money?
How confident does that make you that the government is qualified to tell the citizenry to shut their hole?
And maybe if the government really were more worried about hijackers they'd make it a bit easier for pilots to get their Federal Flight Deck Officer certification so they could be armed in the cockpit, and put an end to the ridiculous limitations that FFDOs are subject to once in flight.
Hell, for that matter, allow qualified citizens that can show verifiable proof of competency to board the plane armed.
As a civil servant and a part of the system that protects you, I can answer. No, we don't fucking work for you.
You're absolutely right - we get taxed and have to pay your salary, but we get no guarantee of competent service, and you in turn are held to almost no accountability to the public when you fuck up. You disarm the populace "for their own safety", and then refuse to accept any kind of legal responsibility for the safety of said populace, and the citizenry has to shell out more money and give up more freedoms in the aftermath.
Just as you think we're too dumb to protect you, we think you're too dumb to protect yourself.
Oh, whatever. I've worked with a lot of people on a lot of different levels of government, and there certainly have been a few sharp ones, but there also have been quite a few more that worked in government because A.) that's the only place they could get work, and B.) in a lot of civil service (or "simple service" as it's often referred to) jobs, it practically takes an act of Congress to get someone fired no matter how bad they screw up.
They made a HUGE ruckus when Mayor Daley bulldozed Meigs Field illegally for a park
And that's all that came of it - a lot of noise, a trivial fine levied on the city by the FAA, and a later court ruling that Daley's actions were in fact legal. Don't get me wrong - I'm not agreeing with what he did, and I think that Richard Daley and Rod Blagojevich are probably two of the biggest wastes of oxygen within US territory. For those of you thinking I'm picking on the Democrats, I'd also include our fearless leader and his trigger-happy lackey in that list.
Despite what the federal and state constitutions say, it's pretty much a given that the government is going to do whatever it damn well feels like, and unless you've got some deep pockets to fight them in court there's not a whole lot you can do about it within the bounds of the law.
Perhaps, but it seems to me that Microsoft could make a lot of money from Apple selling licenses to people who want to run Windows apps on their Mac, and it's still going to be a while before Vista makes it to market.
My wife loves her Mac, but it'd be great if I could get XP running on it so she's not always bugging me to print Word/Excel docs for her that OpenOffice can't handle.
companies will shy away from Mac even more
Or, companies will get a virtualization package, a copy of Windows, and the Windows version of Office just like they would for any other PC. It's a pricier solution but allows more flexibility.
If VMware's Mac product is as good as Workstation is on the PC, then it's almost a given that my next machine will be a Mac - at that point, there really won't be anything of consequence that I won't be able to run on it.
Fortunately, Parallels is still available for the Mac and later this year VMware will be as well. I don't think MS will be missed at this party.
I'm not trying to stir the pot, and I'm also not a Microsoft fanboy, but what Qt offers for that $3300 absolutely pales in comparison to what you get with a VS 2005 Pro/MSDN Premium subscription for $800 less. I've yet to see anything in the Linux world even approach the quantity, quality, and organization of documentation that MSDN offers. It's almost like trying to drink from a firehose.
Of course with MSDN you're limited to Windows, but on the other hand there's plenty of stuff Qt doesn't abstract for which you might have to write system-specific code anyway. For instance, if you wanted to do a really spiffy audio app, you certainly could do a cross-platform UI with Qt, but you'd still have to write for ASIO or DirectSound in Windows, JACK in Linux, and Core Audio on the Mac, and none of those understand any of the Qt types.
Certainly if you can do enough volume on your software sales, it's worth it to buy a Qt license for each developer. For most people I've talked with however, the price is just out of line for what you get and in my experience often results in Qt being passed over for something less capable but much easier to justify financially like GTK or Wx. I'm not busting on Qt for their pricing - if that's what it costs Trolltech to continue development of Qt and provide support, then that's what it costs and they have to do whatever is in their best interests. That's really not the customer's problem, though.
This sort of error is unfortunately endemic in GUI code
It's not just limited to GUI code - some bugs in otherwise plain-vanilla multithreaded code are *hard* to track down because a lot of people don't stop to consider that the system can usually switch away from the current thread any damn time it feels like it, and you have to actively take steps to make sure the state you think you're in and the state you are in coincide with each other.