A lot of stupidity, like what you just wrote, could be eliminated, if people would think first "What would my worst enemy do with this power?" If there isn't a right to lie, then someone like Trump could shut you down by decreeing that you were lying.
many TensorFlow pipelines take a huge performance hit by dropping out to Python after every training batch, in order to feed the next batch from a Python data structure
Since most of the time is spent in the training batch not in the pipeline, so what? And let us note that the primary reason the functionality is in Python rather than C++ is because it is faster to develop in Python. CPU cycles aren't the scarce resource here.
The obvious rebuttal is who needs to blame the North Koreans? Saying you got robbed by the North Koreans isn't any gentler to your career than saying you got robbed by anyone else with similar degree of sophistication. And at least Russian mobsters have a track record of effective stealing from banks.
Here, the grandparent proposes taking wealth from whoever has seizable wealth, funnel it through a machine designed for taking wealth, and give what's left to the people that he just took the wealth from. As he wrote himself:
But you can't give with the right hand, what you toke with the left hand, its a fundamentally uneven exchange.
You add on the remarkably dense observation that there are corporations and lobbyists who can use the power of this government to their own ends. As I said and you confirm, the government remains the only party legally taking from anyone. But sure, let's give them more power to rob us blind. That hasn't failed hard in the past. Or least not enough for you to notice.
That immense cognitive dissonance coming off of you two has got to hurt. Maybe you better take an aspirin for it.
15 N/m2. wow, that's the equivalent of an 11mph breeze here on earth. clearly more than enough to knock a rocket right over.
Yes. If NASA could transport and land a whole several hundred ton Earth-style rocket pad on Mars, then they wouldn't have to worry about leaving people on Mars. That rocket pad either has to be built with local Mars materials or launched from Earth with as much mass shaved away as possible.
Are you sure those are actually IPO proposals, not just phishing attacks poorly disguised as IPO proposals?
The original poster already stated his suspicion that these were genuine IPO phishing attacks. Stock scammers have been trolling for suckers centuries before electronic banking ever existed.
Yes, the atmospheric gases move at hundreds of miles per hour in a storm
You do realize that the load from wind is the square of the wind speed times density? And the density would be increased by the dust that was picked up? At the height of summer, effective density of 0.01 atm and 175 kph wind speed (sited by the book and film, but could be higher during gusts), that would be 15 newtons per square meter. A fragile high surface area rocket which is not well secured would have a significant side force which could indeed push it over.
I haven't watched the movie so I don't know just how much force they portray from the wind storm. But wind speeds that high are not something to trifle with even in Mars's far less dense atmosphere.
They could have just left someone in the parking lot to look for exactly that sort of thing. That wasn't real auditing which is already something that has been stated as a problem.
> 1. The global economy is a real thing, not a "trick phrase".
It'll stop being one as soon as people are allowed to move as freely as corporations (people are corporations too, right?) wares and money (real and fake).
Sure, if the corporation doesn't have any assets, then movement is trivial. But once it does. then moving people becomes easier. There seems to be this magic thinking that it just takes $40 to electronically wire some factory to another country.
I think it's simpler. It's some Indian politicians shaking down Apple for bribes. Today's democracy is probably the least corrupt native government that India has ever had, but it's still a den of thieves.
But sure, I imagine there are some Indian politicians using your colonialist doublespeak to hide their shenanigans.
The Martian was a movie, remember. Oh wait, I forgot, we base policy decisions on movies now. Never mind; yes, Mars has a robust atmosphere! With plenty of Oxygen!
Whoosh. You didn't get my point. The earlier poster responded to a post about "the left and the right" forcing people to follow "their rules" by babbling about marriage as if those were the only rules in the world. An obvious example of what this narrow viewpoint misses are multi-cultural rules against discrimination for a staggering variety of ethnicities, behaviors, and other classifications (but notably excluding competing belief systems).
Sussman didn't understand that the program would start with some biases even if wired at random. Minsky had to point out that the system "has them, it's just that you don't know what they are". There might be good reasons to start training from a random position, but Sussman was doing it for the wrong ones.
Bias is not a bit flag you set. There's good reason to expect that such randomness would lower the biases inserted by the programmer. Meanwhile there is no expectation that closing one's eyes will lower the number of people in a room.
And going back to the original story. One way to find and study the biases that you don't know are there is to remove or alter the biases that you do know are there.
If we look at real world protests in the US or elsewhere, we don't see this strategy working. The Occupy Wall Street protests are a good example. There were no key people to arrest. Yet despite genuine problems with crime and sanitation, they were able to stay for many months without action by the authorities despite never being more than a few thousand people. Instead the authorities waited for the protest to peter out and the political support to wither before moving in.
It's more than just a million people. It's a million people with a lot of friends and family. Even if they happen to have zero support elsewhere, it's going to make a lot of angry people, if the authorities crack down ruthlessly.
IMHO, if a million people decide to do something like take over a small town, it will be done. Logistics not a government crackdown will be what determines if the takeover is permanent.
Because, after all, we could do a much better job of designing a human than evolution did.
Of course, we could. The obvious rebuttal here is twofold: evolution is vastly slower than human efforts and we're not solving the same problems. Evolution solved the problem of human survival in a world of virtually no technology or human organization beyond the small tribe. Meanwhile, we are willing to compromise on human survival in a pre-civilization environment in exchange for significant advantages in our current anad future civilization environment.
As to the first point, how will we expect evolution to keep up with the next century of change? At best, there will be only 5 human generations. That's just not enough time for any significant survival adaptation to take root, especially in the absence of significant selection pressure.
But human bioengineering doesn't have that restriction and can adapt as fast as humanity and its civilizations change.
At best it might be a brain dead shell, but most likely they will find that there is something quintessential about life that will prevent a truely synthetic organism from ever having that "spark" we call life.
Cool, I saw that movie too, bro.
OTOH, if nature can do it via evolution, nature can do it via human bioengineering.
It seems more likely they'll send the police first and if they're arrested, the national guard. It'll happen as soon as they notice no tax money coming in or the use of drugs not approved by the FDA.
No, it doesn't. Nobody has tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of police just lying around waiting to tamp down on the next million person secession. Nor is that a job that police can do.
Given all of the expensive farting around in the Middle East, it seems unlikely that they would waste a perfectly good chance to turn millions of dollars worth of weapons into dead people so close to home. Just as soon as the media portrays the new nation as a pack of crazies harboring terrorists.
Well, are the secessionists doing that? It really undermines your legitimacy, if you really are harboring terrorists. My assumption is that they aren't, but you know, if they are, then that's a different story. Media distortion only goes so far in a democracy. There are such things as blogs and cell phones.
The problem with this assertion is that the elderly will die shortly no matter how much wealth is squandered on them. Any civilization has to provide for the future. And no matter how you spin it, health theater for old people is not providing for the future.
How long will that last? These socialist states are young and haven't solved the problem of how to prevent people from voting (or bribing) other peoples' money into their own pocket. For example, the entire developed world has a huge and growing problem with intergenerational wealth transfer from working age to the elderly.
Sure, because if me and a million others all move to a small city and announce our secession from the U.S. the feds will wish us well and leave us to our own devices. Right?
Actually, that's probably what would happen. Most of the US political leadership doesn't have the will of an Abraham Lincoln. And there's not going to be enough at stake (or for that matter, profit) for anyone to start a war over.
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A lot of stupidity, like what you just wrote, could be eliminated, if people would think first "What would my worst enemy do with this power?" If there isn't a right to lie, then someone like Trump could shut you down by decreeing that you were lying.
many TensorFlow pipelines take a huge performance hit by dropping out to Python after every training batch, in order to feed the next batch from a Python data structure
Since most of the time is spent in the training batch not in the pipeline, so what? And let us note that the primary reason the functionality is in Python rather than C++ is because it is faster to develop in Python. CPU cycles aren't the scarce resource here.
The obvious rebuttal is who needs to blame the North Koreans? Saying you got robbed by the North Koreans isn't any gentler to your career than saying you got robbed by anyone else with similar degree of sophistication. And at least Russian mobsters have a track record of effective stealing from banks.
But you can't give with the right hand, what you toke with the left hand, its a fundamentally uneven exchange.
You add on the remarkably dense observation that there are corporations and lobbyists who can use the power of this government to their own ends. As I said and you confirm, the government remains the only party legally taking from anyone. But sure, let's give them more power to rob us blind. That hasn't failed hard in the past. Or least not enough for you to notice.
That immense cognitive dissonance coming off of you two has got to hurt. Maybe you better take an aspirin for it.
The US govt does this all the time.
So that makes it ok? Let me introduce you to the tu quoque fallacy.
15 N/m2. wow, that's the equivalent of an 11mph breeze here on earth. clearly more than enough to knock a rocket right over.
Yes. If NASA could transport and land a whole several hundred ton Earth-style rocket pad on Mars, then they wouldn't have to worry about leaving people on Mars. That rocket pad either has to be built with local Mars materials or launched from Earth with as much mass shaved away as possible.
Are you sure those are actually IPO proposals, not just phishing attacks poorly disguised as IPO proposals?
The original poster already stated his suspicion that these were genuine IPO phishing attacks. Stock scammers have been trolling for suckers centuries before electronic banking ever existed.
But you can't give with the right hand, what you toke with the left hand, its a fundamentally uneven exchange.
Who takes in a democracy? Only the government has that power legally. Everyone else has to trade and offer something in exchange.
Yes, the atmospheric gases move at hundreds of miles per hour in a storm
You do realize that the load from wind is the square of the wind speed times density? And the density would be increased by the dust that was picked up? At the height of summer, effective density of 0.01 atm and 175 kph wind speed (sited by the book and film, but could be higher during gusts), that would be 15 newtons per square meter. A fragile high surface area rocket which is not well secured would have a significant side force which could indeed push it over.
I haven't watched the movie so I don't know just how much force they portray from the wind storm. But wind speeds that high are not something to trifle with even in Mars's far less dense atmosphere.
They could have just left someone in the parking lot to look for exactly that sort of thing. That wasn't real auditing which is already something that has been stated as a problem.
> 1. The global economy is a real thing, not a "trick phrase".
It'll stop being one as soon as people are allowed to move as freely as corporations (people are corporations too, right?) wares and money (real and fake).
Sure, if the corporation doesn't have any assets, then movement is trivial. But once it does. then moving people becomes easier. There seems to be this magic thinking that it just takes $40 to electronically wire some factory to another country.
I think it's simpler. It's some Indian politicians shaking down Apple for bribes. Today's democracy is probably the least corrupt native government that India has ever had, but it's still a den of thieves.
But sure, I imagine there are some Indian politicians using your colonialist doublespeak to hide their shenanigans.
The Martian was a movie, remember. Oh wait, I forgot, we base policy decisions on movies now. Never mind; yes, Mars has a robust atmosphere! With plenty of Oxygen!
The Martian did not portray a robust atmosphere.
Whoosh. You didn't get my point. The earlier poster responded to a post about "the left and the right" forcing people to follow "their rules" by babbling about marriage as if those were the only rules in the world. An obvious example of what this narrow viewpoint misses are multi-cultural rules against discrimination for a staggering variety of ethnicities, behaviors, and other classifications (but notably excluding competing belief systems).
Sussman didn't understand that the program would start with some biases even if wired at random. Minsky had to point out that the system "has them, it's just that you don't know what they are". There might be good reasons to start training from a random position, but Sussman was doing it for the wrong ones.
Bias is not a bit flag you set. There's good reason to expect that such randomness would lower the biases inserted by the programmer. Meanwhile there is no expectation that closing one's eyes will lower the number of people in a room.
And going back to the original story. One way to find and study the biases that you don't know are there is to remove or alter the biases that you do know are there.
And why was this supposed to be insightful? There is good reason for Sussman's methods here which Minsky's closing of the eyes does not emulate.
Because the only rules in existence are rules on who to marry.
You're comparing apples to oranges. Occupy didn't create a currency, elect a president, and declare their territory to no longer be a part of the U.S.
And the people who did went out of their way to start a war.
If we look at real world protests in the US or elsewhere, we don't see this strategy working. The Occupy Wall Street protests are a good example. There were no key people to arrest. Yet despite genuine problems with crime and sanitation, they were able to stay for many months without action by the authorities despite never being more than a few thousand people. Instead the authorities waited for the protest to peter out and the political support to wither before moving in.
It's more than just a million people. It's a million people with a lot of friends and family. Even if they happen to have zero support elsewhere, it's going to make a lot of angry people, if the authorities crack down ruthlessly.
IMHO, if a million people decide to do something like take over a small town, it will be done. Logistics not a government crackdown will be what determines if the takeover is permanent.
Because, after all, we could do a much better job of designing a human than evolution did.
Of course, we could. The obvious rebuttal here is twofold: evolution is vastly slower than human efforts and we're not solving the same problems. Evolution solved the problem of human survival in a world of virtually no technology or human organization beyond the small tribe. Meanwhile, we are willing to compromise on human survival in a pre-civilization environment in exchange for significant advantages in our current anad future civilization environment.
As to the first point, how will we expect evolution to keep up with the next century of change? At best, there will be only 5 human generations. That's just not enough time for any significant survival adaptation to take root, especially in the absence of significant selection pressure.
But human bioengineering doesn't have that restriction and can adapt as fast as humanity and its civilizations change.
At best it might be a brain dead shell, but most likely they will find that there is something quintessential about life that will prevent a truely synthetic organism from ever having that "spark" we call life.
Cool, I saw that movie too, bro.
OTOH, if nature can do it via evolution, nature can do it via human bioengineering.
It seems more likely they'll send the police first and if they're arrested, the national guard. It'll happen as soon as they notice no tax money coming in or the use of drugs not approved by the FDA.
No, it doesn't. Nobody has tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of police just lying around waiting to tamp down on the next million person secession. Nor is that a job that police can do.
Given all of the expensive farting around in the Middle East, it seems unlikely that they would waste a perfectly good chance to turn millions of dollars worth of weapons into dead people so close to home. Just as soon as the media portrays the new nation as a pack of crazies harboring terrorists.
Well, are the secessionists doing that? It really undermines your legitimacy, if you really are harboring terrorists. My assumption is that they aren't, but you know, if they are, then that's a different story. Media distortion only goes so far in a democracy. There are such things as blogs and cell phones.
The problem with this assertion is that the elderly will die shortly no matter how much wealth is squandered on them. Any civilization has to provide for the future. And no matter how you spin it, health theater for old people is not providing for the future.
How long will that last? These socialist states are young and haven't solved the problem of how to prevent people from voting (or bribing) other peoples' money into their own pocket. For example, the entire developed world has a huge and growing problem with intergenerational wealth transfer from working age to the elderly.
Sure, because if me and a million others all move to a small city and announce our secession from the U.S. the feds will wish us well and leave us to our own devices. Right?
Actually, that's probably what would happen. Most of the US political leadership doesn't have the will of an Abraham Lincoln. And there's not going to be enough at stake (or for that matter, profit) for anyone to start a war over.