More than a million homosexuals? Where do you come up with that number?
This is what wikipedia gives
"Between 1933 and 1945, an estimated 100,000 men were arrested as homosexuals, of whom some 50,000 were officially sentenced.[1] Most of these men served time in regular prisons, and an estimated 5,000 to 15,000 of those sentenced were incarcerated in Nazi concentration camps.[1] It is unclear how many of the 5,000 to 15,000 eventually perished in the camps, but leading scholar Rüdiger Lautmann believes that the death rate of homosexuals in concentration camps may have been as high as 60%."
So we're looking at less than 15,000 dead maybe as low as 3,000. Long way from a million.
While not a fan of homosexuality (I admit I find it strange and disgusting) I feel no particular hatred either. More like indifference. I definetly do not support persecution but the outright lies from proponents of that lifestyle are so fucking outrageous.
It hardly matters. What matters is that as usual the agencies responsible for catching this stuff are too busy spying on Americans to do their real job. 9/11 came and went and they didn't learn a thing. Incompetent as ever.
The right way is for the President to go to Congress and ask for a declaration of war. We keep fighting police actions instead and police actions by definition shouldn't not be called war. If it was a war we'd have it declared and ramp up to get it over with instead of this death by a thousand cuts stuff we're doing now.
I'm saying that people will always have issues. People hate for all kinds of reasons and as a nation we will always have enemies. A religion that has a major, not minor component, that states "believe the way we do or we'll kill you" is never going to be my friend and I don't give a shit what race or sect or whatever they are. How many times have we tried to be friends with someone and then once our common goal is met or gone they go back to being our enemies? It's an ugly world and to think just because you're nice to people and give them lots of money they'll love you is a deadly fallacy. And yes many times we've been the bad guy, there is way too much of "the end justifies the means" kind of thinking going on.
You can't buy friends. No matter how much money you spread around it ends up with most of it in the hands of the thugs running all these little shitholes and the people still hate us because we don't bow towards Mecca. The NSA have a job to do but they need to clean house by firing everyone there from the top down to minor level administrators. All the idiots in charge should have been fired right after 9/11. Instead of rolling heads we got the fucking "Patriot" act. They aint' patriots they're fucking traitors to the Constitution they swore an oath to. Not one of those sorry fucking cunts got fired! Thousands dead, towers down and nobody got fired much less put in jail for criminal negligence. It's a God Damn outrage.
I find it easy to believe. He's typical of the fucking morons that run the bureaucracy of this nation. War is what happens between nations and criminal activity is what happens when individuals or gangs break the law. This whole thing of calling these thugs terrorists tends to legitimatize them and makes them more effective. Just catch them, throw them in a hole and toss the key away. Enough of all the drama already. Now they've twisted things so that minor criminals serve time like they were mass murderers or something. It's like the terrorists won, they destroyed the entire culture so that you can't even fly from Atlanta to New York without feeling like you're in the old Soviet Union. It feels like you're trying to sneak out plans for a new Red Navy submarine.
I see your point. The problem of course is when you become the criminal. In the future I suspect there will be a lot more restrictions. A lot more and they already have the system coming into place that will insure compliance with whatever they mandate. The reason of course is that in about 8 years or so the government will be bankrupt and when they can't write those checks without printing ridiculous amounts of phony money there will be a lot of people that will suddenly find their monthly check doesn't buy a living, even a meager one. That's the day they will need all this stuff to control a pissed off and hungry populace.
Okay, then whoever summarized it screwed it up. That makes me feel a lot better about the info then. Thanks for the clarification, if I had mod points I'd certainly +1 you.
Just the fact that AT&T proposed it is enough to poison the entire proposal. Anything out of AT&T is going to be an attempt to fuck somebody because that's what they truly excel at. After all the taxpayers have done to provide money to build these guys networks and the subsidies they've gotten over the decades it's time for it to end.
And here I thought we were talking about ice. Snow is precipitation, ice is frozen water. Generally snow may or may not melt upon reaching the earth depending on surface temperature. Ice of course is formed by freezing temperatures causing water to freeze. I'm not a climatologist but I do have a general idea of the basics.
No, actually I don't. Regardless though, when you apply for a Federal job it's a lot like the scene in Who Framed Roger Rabbit where Bob Hoskins goes through the wall into Toon Town and all the laws of reality change. If you don't want to play, don't go there.
If you've ever worked for a Federal agency then you know how ridiculous it can truly get. That's one reason I dread any new Big government program such as the Affordable Health Care Act. Pelosi was quite right when she said "We have to pass it to know what's in it." US stands for Uncle Stupid. I don't agree with all this crap but it is what it is and if they wanted to they could send her to jail for falsifying her application.
Do you seriously think that being part of a group that has ties with a terrorist organization and then continuing to have contact with two actual terrorists while they are in prison is equivalent to your analogy? If so, do yourself a favor and get someone to help you fill out any clearance applications you might submit. Your ignorance will only get you in trouble.
She knew they had commited murder. She visited one of them in prison. She knew they commited the act of murder as part of a terrorist organization and they were connected to the two groups she worked with. She failed to mention any of this. I can only surmise she didn't tell them because either she didn't think it mattered or she didn't think they'd approve of her aquaintances. Either way she failed to be entirely open. Evaluators frown on lack of openness. You may feel they were wrong but I can tell you from experience that they are consistent on this kind of stuff. They have no sense of humor and no real forgiveness for failure to be complete about all activity.
She later admitted keeping contact with two members who had commited murder but claimed she was had no prior knowledge of their activities. I think she may be telling the truth but omitting the fact that she was continuing to contact those two is enough for them to take action. Lying on those forms or omitting facts like that is one of the things they really look for. You can have a clearance suspended for forgetting to mention minor financial debts.
I'm surprised how many survive. I know one lady who has been run over twice. Both times on a busy 4 lane road at an intersection by cars turning right on a red light. Neither one saw her because they were looking for oncoming "cars" not a bike doing 11 miles an hour. The second time nearly killed her but she's back at it. Only a matter of time I guess.
More than a million homosexuals? Where do you come up with that number?
This is what wikipedia gives
"Between 1933 and 1945, an estimated 100,000 men were arrested as homosexuals, of whom some 50,000 were officially sentenced.[1] Most of these men served time in regular prisons, and an estimated 5,000 to 15,000 of those sentenced were incarcerated in Nazi concentration camps.[1] It is unclear how many of the 5,000 to 15,000 eventually perished in the camps, but leading scholar Rüdiger Lautmann believes that the death rate of homosexuals in concentration camps may have been as high as 60%."
So we're looking at less than 15,000 dead maybe as low as 3,000. Long way from a million.
While not a fan of homosexuality (I admit I find it strange and disgusting) I feel no particular hatred either. More like indifference. I definetly do not support persecution but the outright lies from proponents of that lifestyle are so fucking outrageous.
It hardly matters. What matters is that as usual the agencies responsible for catching this stuff are too busy spying on Americans to do their real job. 9/11 came and went and they didn't learn a thing. Incompetent as ever.
The right way is for the President to go to Congress and ask for a declaration of war. We keep fighting police actions instead and police actions by definition shouldn't not be called war. If it was a war we'd have it declared and ramp up to get it over with instead of this death by a thousand cuts stuff we're doing now.
I'm saying that people will always have issues. People hate for all kinds of reasons and as a nation we will always have enemies. A religion that has a major, not minor component, that states "believe the way we do or we'll kill you" is never going to be my friend and I don't give a shit what race or sect or whatever they are. How many times have we tried to be friends with someone and then once our common goal is met or gone they go back to being our enemies? It's an ugly world and to think just because you're nice to people and give them lots of money they'll love you is a deadly fallacy. And yes many times we've been the bad guy, there is way too much of "the end justifies the means" kind of thinking going on.
You can't buy friends. No matter how much money you spread around it ends up with most of it in the hands of the thugs running all these little shitholes and the people still hate us because we don't bow towards Mecca. The NSA have a job to do but they need to clean house by firing everyone there from the top down to minor level administrators. All the idiots in charge should have been fired right after 9/11. Instead of rolling heads we got the fucking "Patriot" act. They aint' patriots they're fucking traitors to the Constitution they swore an oath to. Not one of those sorry fucking cunts got fired! Thousands dead, towers down and nobody got fired much less put in jail for criminal negligence. It's a God Damn outrage.
I find it easy to believe. He's typical of the fucking morons that run the bureaucracy of this nation. War is what happens between nations and criminal activity is what happens when individuals or gangs break the law. This whole thing of calling these thugs terrorists tends to legitimatize them and makes them more effective. Just catch them, throw them in a hole and toss the key away. Enough of all the drama already. Now they've twisted things so that minor criminals serve time like they were mass murderers or something. It's like the terrorists won, they destroyed the entire culture so that you can't even fly from Atlanta to New York without feeling like you're in the old Soviet Union. It feels like you're trying to sneak out plans for a new Red Navy submarine.
I've got a Barack Obama mask. It's a hoot at Halloween. The kids laugh like crazy.
I see your point. The problem of course is when you become the criminal. In the future I suspect there will be a lot more restrictions. A lot more and they already have the system coming into place that will insure compliance with whatever they mandate. The reason of course is that in about 8 years or so the government will be bankrupt and when they can't write those checks without printing ridiculous amounts of phony money there will be a lot of people that will suddenly find their monthly check doesn't buy a living, even a meager one. That's the day they will need all this stuff to control a pissed off and hungry populace.
Okay, then whoever summarized it screwed it up. That makes me feel a lot better about the info then. Thanks for the clarification, if I had mod points I'd certainly +1 you.
Just the fact that AT&T proposed it is enough to poison the entire proposal. Anything out of AT&T is going to be an attempt to fuck somebody because that's what they truly excel at. After all the taxpayers have done to provide money to build these guys networks and the subsidies they've gotten over the decades it's time for it to end.
And here I thought we were talking about ice. Snow is precipitation, ice is frozen water. Generally snow may or may not melt upon reaching the earth depending on surface temperature. Ice of course is formed by freezing temperatures causing water to freeze. I'm not a climatologist but I do have a general idea of the basics.
Lovely. Just lovely.
I was wondering about the anti-biotics myself. It sure makes me suspicious about the rest of the info.
Use it as a torrent client?
Of course, the hotter it gets the more ice we'll see.
This is true. There is no such thing as gravity, the reason we don't fall off the Earth is because it sucks. It's suction that holds us down.
You're deliberately being obtuse. It's what I get for feeding trolls.
No, actually I don't. Regardless though, when you apply for a Federal job it's a lot like the scene in Who Framed Roger Rabbit where Bob Hoskins goes through the wall into Toon Town and all the laws of reality change. If you don't want to play, don't go there.
If you've ever worked for a Federal agency then you know how ridiculous it can truly get. That's one reason I dread any new Big government program such as the Affordable Health Care Act. Pelosi was quite right when she said "We have to pass it to know what's in it." US stands for Uncle Stupid. I don't agree with all this crap but it is what it is and if they wanted to they could send her to jail for falsifying her application.
Do you seriously think that being part of a group that has ties with a terrorist organization and then continuing to have contact with two actual terrorists while they are in prison is equivalent to your analogy? If so, do yourself a favor and get someone to help you fill out any clearance applications you might submit. Your ignorance will only get you in trouble.
Now you're quibbling. You can nitpick with me all you want but never try that shit on a clearance form. You wont like it.
She knew they had commited murder. She visited one of them in prison. She knew they commited the act of murder as part of a terrorist organization and they were connected to the two groups she worked with. She failed to mention any of this. I can only surmise she didn't tell them because either she didn't think it mattered or she didn't think they'd approve of her aquaintances. Either way she failed to be entirely open. Evaluators frown on lack of openness. You may feel they were wrong but I can tell you from experience that they are consistent on this kind of stuff. They have no sense of humor and no real forgiveness for failure to be complete about all activity.
She later admitted keeping contact with two members who had commited murder but claimed she was had no prior knowledge of their activities. I think she may be telling the truth but omitting the fact that she was continuing to contact those two is enough for them to take action. Lying on those forms or omitting facts like that is one of the things they really look for. You can have a clearance suspended for forgetting to mention minor financial debts.
That's it, when you run out of logic reach for the smear tactics.
I'm surprised how many survive. I know one lady who has been run over twice. Both times on a busy 4 lane road at an intersection by cars turning right on a red light. Neither one saw her because they were looking for oncoming "cars" not a bike doing 11 miles an hour. The second time nearly killed her but she's back at it. Only a matter of time I guess.