pass a law to override their laws. They're already working on it. They'll get a few of the 'blue dog' Democrats like Chuck Schumer & that Pelosi... thing... to sign on to it.
If we want change, first, stop voting Republican. Time and again they've come out in favor of anti-consumer, pro-corporate policies like these. And we shouldn't even be surprised. The biggest part of their party platform is low taxes and little or no regulations. Next, go vote in the Dems primaries and kick the right wing Dems out. They're not bipartison, they're corporate sell-outs. There's a movement called "Justice Democrats" in the party right now to do just that.
Or don't, but then stop complaining. You don't get to have it both ways. You can't have a functioning government with pro-consumer regulation where only the parts you care about are regulated. For one thing, People are too spiteful for that. If you take away the stuff that helps them they're not going to back you when you need it. Worse, they'll actively campaign against your issues since you weren't there when they needed it. We're all in this together and we all have to protect each other or we get picked apart. Like that picture of the snake you saw in grade school with the names of the 13 colonies.
Heavy on IO. CPU turns are taking longer. I gather if you play the really huge and poorly optimized Grand Strategy games it's a problem. He tells me folks on the forums are already complaining. There's also been some scattered reports on the Ghost Recon Wildlands forums of big hits to frame rates, but it's pretty random. Some folks saw no difference post patch and others went from 60 to the mid 40s.
Nobody gets it and all adverts are removed. Jim Sterling useless this trick to prevent Konami and Nintendo from claiming his vids (which don't have ads) and putting ads on them.
It's damn near impossible not to. He's on Win 7 though so he's OK. My Win 10 machines didn't let me say no. I suppose I could manually remove the patch but I'm 90%
sure they're gonna try and install it again.
when you put it like that it makes it sound like the problem is his hard drive, which it's not. A faster drive wouldn't fix the performance issues either (e.g. it wouldn't make the CPU turns faster).
A lot of users won't be impacted. My brothers pissed because this is going to tank performance in the IO heavy strategy games he plays and he bought his i7 specifically to play them. It's looks like enough to knock him down to high end i5 territory. That's about $75-$100 worth of performance gone in a puff of smoke....
little or no hit to passmark performance. I haven't got any games installed to test at the moment but passmark's GPU/CPU usually give me a good idea where I'd wind up. My VMs are running fine too.
and in general you can and do run JavaScript exactly as it's written unless maybe you want to run it through an optimizer or obfuscator (and these are scripts I wrote for work, so that would be kinda pointless). And besides, GM doesn't do compilation, the javascript engine built into FF does. Have you just never written a web app or script? But even then don't you distribute stuff as libraries? When I install a large program like, say, Office it doesn't come as a monolithic exe...
At least this way there's some monetary punishment for Intel. Maybe a lot if it can be shown they were aware of the defect for an extended period of time. Personally I'd rather see tighter regulation around warranties and fitness for purpose. If this knocks 5% off my processor that's the equivalent of it taking me down to the next cheaper model. That's around a $50 cost to me as a consumer.
of your Mobo manufacturer and/or system builder? I've got a newish Asus board for my i5 7500 but my 4560's board is pretty long in the tooth. I'm not expecting updates at this point...
Aside from games I have a little virtual lab at home running on VM Ware. That and some Virtual Box VMs and a couple Virtual PC ones under Win 7. I'm hoping this doesn't tank my guest' OSes performance. I just upgraded to an i5-7500 and my bro got an i7-4690k last year.
You can no longer access the file system. Instead plugins get a 'virtual' file system to store files. My GM scripts were written with multiple files using include directives to reference the local directory, and since I can't just copy the files over they don't work. I'm stuck putting everything in one ginormous file.
As for my own plugin, it uses FFMPEG to do conversions, which again is damn near impossible without file system access. And that's before I get into making it all play nice in the new multi-threaded plugin world:(...
and when did they know it. That's sorta what I want to know. If Intel's known about this bug for, say, 10 years and ignored it so they could outperform AMD then I think that's pretty good grounds for a lawsuit. Especially if it's a 5-30% drop in performance.
Thanks:). I'm dying to know what the hit's going to be. Right now it's all kind of up in the air. I do a bunch of virtualization. My bro does even more with an entire computer lab devoted to it.
If it hits Virtualization but not gaming expect to see a ton of cheap CPUs on ebay as companies are forced to dump them. If that happens I can probably get back to square one for about $300 bucks by upgrading my i5s to i7s.
that Firefox 57 just broke a mountain of plugins (mine included) and makes fixing said plugins difficult if not impossible (still wrestling with that).
the scientists don't really care who pays them. They're doing the research because they love it. We only need the profit motive in place because we want it there.
Cox just started metering internet (coincidentally right after the change in Administration... but anyway). Assuming he watches the same amount of Hulu/Netflix as he does TV the savings might be about $15-$25/mo. That accounts for all the extra fees you pay to use your internet connection. Meanwhile Comcast had admitted in their SEC filing that it costs them $9/mo to offer internet and I can't imagine Cox is that far off.
We should just nationalize the Internet. The government can already regulate speech on it so it's not like we're losing anything, and there's no reason why we should let something as important as mass telecommunications be left in the hands of profiteering corporations. Besides, it's not like those mega corps care about free speech.
External R&D is the company paying the university (Penn) for the research the school did over ten years ago.
If a University did the research why the heck wouldn't we just fund it out of the Government? That way instead of letting this company profit to the tune of $800 million vs a $50 million outlay we could just spend $50 million, give 1000 people their sight back, add to that everybody who's insurance won't pay or who don't have insurance, and call it a day?
I still don't see any value this company is adding. The research was still done at schools. You could argue they funded it, but the amount of money we're talking about ($50 million if we count royalties, which are only that high because of exorbitant fees) is chicken scratch. Especially when compared to the $800 million in profit.
The whole system of drug companies funding Universities looks like an outgrowth of budget cuts from the Reagan/Clinton/Bush era of rampant cuts of government programs. The end result is the same: Public universities do all the work, private companies get all the profits; and to top it off poor and lower working class people lose access to life changing medicine. It's a corrupt system and rotten at its core.
the vast majority of pharmaceutical research is done with public funds. Then Pharma moves in, does a few clinical trials and uses a few common tricks to let them patent it (or is just plain given the patents). A close family member survived cancer with drugs invented in European Universities and owned by American pharmaceutical companies, so I've got some first hand experience.
Oh, and Intel also doesn't charge $850k for a CPU....
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pass a law to override their laws. They're already working on it. They'll get a few of the 'blue dog' Democrats like Chuck Schumer & that Pelosi... thing... to sign on to it.
If we want change, first, stop voting Republican. Time and again they've come out in favor of anti-consumer, pro-corporate policies like these. And we shouldn't even be surprised. The biggest part of their party platform is low taxes and little or no regulations. Next, go vote in the Dems primaries and kick the right wing Dems out. They're not bipartison, they're corporate sell-outs. There's a movement called "Justice Democrats" in the party right now to do just that.
Or don't, but then stop complaining. You don't get to have it both ways. You can't have a functioning government with pro-consumer regulation where only the parts you care about are regulated. For one thing, People are too spiteful for that. If you take away the stuff that helps them they're not going to back you when you need it. Worse, they'll actively campaign against your issues since you weren't there when they needed it. We're all in this together and we all have to protect each other or we get picked apart. Like that picture of the snake you saw in grade school with the names of the 13 colonies.
Heavy on IO. CPU turns are taking longer. I gather if you play the really huge and poorly optimized Grand Strategy games it's a problem. He tells me folks on the forums are already complaining. There's also been some scattered reports on the Ghost Recon Wildlands forums of big hits to frame rates, but it's pretty random. Some folks saw no difference post patch and others went from 60 to the mid 40s.
Nobody gets it and all adverts are removed. Jim Sterling useless this trick to prevent Konami and Nintendo from claiming his vids (which don't have ads) and putting ads on them.
It's damn near impossible not to. He's on Win 7 though so he's OK. My Win 10 machines didn't let me say no. I suppose I could manually remove the patch but I'm 90% sure they're gonna try and install it again.
when you put it like that it makes it sound like the problem is his hard drive, which it's not. A faster drive wouldn't fix the performance issues either (e.g. it wouldn't make the CPU turns faster).
A lot of users won't be impacted. My brothers pissed because this is going to tank performance in the IO heavy strategy games he plays and he bought his i7 specifically to play them. It's looks like enough to knock him down to high end i5 territory. That's about $75-$100 worth of performance gone in a puff of smoke....
little or no hit to passmark performance. I haven't got any games installed to test at the moment but passmark's GPU/CPU usually give me a good idea where I'd wind up. My VMs are running fine too.
and in general you can and do run JavaScript exactly as it's written unless maybe you want to run it through an optimizer or obfuscator (and these are scripts I wrote for work, so that would be kinda pointless). And besides, GM doesn't do compilation, the javascript engine built into FF does. Have you just never written a web app or script? But even then don't you distribute stuff as libraries? When I install a large program like, say, Office it doesn't come as a monolithic exe...
At least this way there's some monetary punishment for Intel. Maybe a lot if it can be shown they were aware of the defect for an extended period of time. Personally I'd rather see tighter regulation around warranties and fitness for purpose. If this knocks 5% off my processor that's the equivalent of it taking me down to the next cheaper model. That's around a $50 cost to me as a consumer.
in the next computer you buy?
of your Mobo manufacturer and/or system builder? I've got a newish Asus board for my i5 7500 but my 4560's board is pretty long in the tooth. I'm not expecting updates at this point...
Neato. I will check that out, thanks :)
I've heard that the newest Intel CPUs weren't hit as bad. I'm wondering how my i5-7500, i5-4560 and my brother's i7-4690k are going to fair...
Aside from games I have a little virtual lab at home running on VM Ware. That and some Virtual Box VMs and a couple Virtual PC ones under Win 7. I'm hoping this doesn't tank my guest' OSes performance. I just upgraded to an i5-7500 and my bro got an i7-4690k last year.
You can no longer access the file system. Instead plugins get a 'virtual' file system to store files. My GM scripts were written with multiple files using include directives to reference the local directory, and since I can't just copy the files over they don't work. I'm stuck putting everything in one ginormous file.
:(...
As for my own plugin, it uses FFMPEG to do conversions, which again is damn near impossible without file system access. And that's before I get into making it all play nice in the new multi-threaded plugin world
and when did they know it. That's sorta what I want to know. If Intel's known about this bug for, say, 10 years and ignored it so they could outperform AMD then I think that's pretty good grounds for a lawsuit. Especially if it's a 5-30% drop in performance.
Thanks :). I'm dying to know what the hit's going to be. Right now it's all kind of up in the air. I do a bunch of virtualization. My bro does even more with an entire computer lab devoted to it.
If it hits Virtualization but not gaming expect to see a ton of cheap CPUs on ebay as companies are forced to dump them. If that happens I can probably get back to square one for about $300 bucks by upgrading my i5s to i7s.
that Firefox 57 just broke a mountain of plugins (mine included) and makes fixing said plugins difficult if not impossible (still wrestling with that).
curious what the damage is.
if the law isn't enforced.
the scientists don't really care who pays them. They're doing the research because they love it. We only need the profit motive in place because we want it there.
Cox just started metering internet (coincidentally right after the change in Administration... but anyway). Assuming he watches the same amount of Hulu/Netflix as he does TV the savings might be about $15-$25/mo. That accounts for all the extra fees you pay to use your internet connection. Meanwhile Comcast had admitted in their SEC filing that it costs them $9/mo to offer internet and I can't imagine Cox is that far off.
We should just nationalize the Internet. The government can already regulate speech on it so it's not like we're losing anything, and there's no reason why we should let something as important as mass telecommunications be left in the hands of profiteering corporations. Besides, it's not like those mega corps care about free speech.
If a University did the research why the heck wouldn't we just fund it out of the Government? That way instead of letting this company profit to the tune of $800 million vs a $50 million outlay we could just spend $50 million, give 1000 people their sight back, add to that everybody who's insurance won't pay or who don't have insurance, and call it a day?
I still don't see any value this company is adding. The research was still done at schools. You could argue they funded it, but the amount of money we're talking about ($50 million if we count royalties, which are only that high because of exorbitant fees) is chicken scratch. Especially when compared to the $800 million in profit.
The whole system of drug companies funding Universities looks like an outgrowth of budget cuts from the Reagan/Clinton/Bush era of rampant cuts of government programs. The end result is the same: Public universities do all the work, private companies get all the profits; and to top it off poor and lower working class people lose access to life changing medicine. It's a corrupt system and rotten at its core.
the vast majority of pharmaceutical research is done with public funds. Then Pharma moves in, does a few clinical trials and uses a few common tricks to let them patent it (or is just plain given the patents). A close family member survived cancer with drugs invented in European Universities and owned by American pharmaceutical companies, so I've got some first hand experience.
Oh, and Intel also doesn't charge $850k for a CPU....
the basic research that underpinned this (e.g. all the hard work) was done at public University on the public dime.