Of course, I was in Tokyo most of the time, and it was the only company providing the first "non-dumb" smartphones (iphone) at the time. When the 3/11 earthquake hit, of course, the service was non-existent, but I do not know any other services that really survived (though, my emobile mobile wifi dongle worked well enough).
Say what you want, but Softbank really brought the iphone revolution (now the iphone and android revolution) to Japan. Also, I am sure the smartgrid will not be wireless . . .
Let me get this straight. The most successful Japanese business man is going balls to the wall for renewable energy after his country has just experienced what still could become the worst nuclear accident ever. You:
- Probably have significantly less money that can be invested in ANY project (not that you would bother investing in Japan if you did).
- Probably do not even HAVE any assets in Japan at risk.
- Did not even take the time to look up what Japans real alternative energy profile looks like.
You know, I am assuming you are a fellow American because that seems to be what Americans do all the time, tell the rest of the world what is best for them without even bothering to learn anything about their situation (Hell, it is how Japan first got into the nuke business, to begin with). However, do you think the nuke industry really needs posts like yours? It is really sad to see little people like yourself cheer on the giants who wouldn't lose any sleep if they smeared your little life all over the pavement. Even more pathetic from the eyes of those who have been direct victims of such industry giants.
Just noting the remarkable timing I got on two completely different threads by an Anon personally attacking me. Consequently, I assume it is the same Anon.
To use Anon posting for personal attacks against signed-in users must be something only done by those with such low self-esteem and basis for argument that they are unable to socially engage on fair ground. I find it truly disturbing the amount of time you must have wasted on this effort and believe it must stem from some serious social disorder you must be suffering from. Though I am ignoring your post/s, I found it necessary to point out that you are abusing a very useful functionality of Slashdot. Some posters have legitimate reasons for using the Anon feature to allow them to inform our community without compromising their careers or personal safety. Your abuse of this feature risks undermining that which brings otherwise unobtainable information to the community (by increasing the likelihood that all Anon posts will be ignored). In other words, you are hurting the community for selfish and antisocial personal gain. Please stop.
Anyone finding themselves in a similar situation are free to reuse the last paragraph. I believe if we respond consistently as a community we can limit the effects of such destructive behavior.
Nice, so you are claiming I am dishonest based on an argument method I used (over a month ago) in a post that was being used in this thread to create a strawman that I was a liar. Meanwhile, as an Anon, you are completely immune to any similar scrutiny. Accordingly, I am unable to really confirm your motivations for posting or even if you are the same person (unless I believe an anonymous post saying you are). I might as well assume you are the NRC individual I replied to a month ago, coming back for a revenge as an Anon (what pitiful thing to do . ..).
Thanks, I think you just taught me why I should just ignore Anons 100% of the time going forward . .., and I would argue that you are the most dishonest relevant party so far for posting as an Anon (and using it as an opportunity to attack past posts, something that cannot be done to you). Consequently, this will be my last reply to an Anon.
Not sure how that is pointing out my dishonesty. He was claiming I lied that I worked for the NRC and your (actually, not sure if you are the same Anon) post indicates I never did such a thing.
I cannot readily put my house on the market because my mother-in-law has nowhere else to go. My friend (who has an apartment near my house, shocker) has not been able to find any buyers, anyway. Another poster has already kindly pointed out that you are taking my earlier post out of context.
Did you use this same masterful method of reasoning to conclude that Chernobyl > Fukushima, at this early date?
However, we do not live in an ideal world and, post-Fukushima, we really live in a different world. When an accident does occur, the level of contamination is at such a different magnitude and density.
Don't get me wrong, both suck and please let me know if you have come across something more recent that includes Fukushima, but I have yet to see such an argument seriously made post-Fukushima.
Or maybe you are lacking the mental comprehension to understand my argument? Fukushima should be a changing point for how we treat nuclear technology. Buying a geiger counter is now a good idea, because the disaster in Fukushima taught us we can never be too careful. Making fun of such an act is a dipshit thing to do and disrespect to the victims of Fukushima.
Here is an example. Let us say 6 months after 9/11 your friend said he was scared of tall buildings and was thinking of buying a parachute. Making fun of him would be a dipshit thing to do and would be a form of disrespect to the victims of 9/11 and the horrific end they met. So yes, fuck you.
If government is not capable of adequately managing the risks of nuclear power and ensuring plants do not end up spewing their contents into the atmosphere before being decommissioned, then I really do not think it matters where anyone lives, as long as it is on this Earth. And yes, I do expect the government to protect nuclear plants from terrorists, or decide not to build them all together.
There are ways to invest in Japan real estate without the red tape or illiquidity (J-REITS), and, for instance, Orix is below its 3/11 dip. If the situation has been overblown, then why does the market not agree?
But, if I were hit by a bus, and I had falsely accused a victim of a disaster of being a liar based on some none issue (to win an argument), it would probably be one of my last thoughts before dying. We all die sometime, best to die with a clean conscience.
And, if you took my comment to mean he literally deserved to die just for disagreeing with me, then you must be shocked and horrified by a lot of things every day.
I am surprised someone here actually took the time to read the context and then post. Just shows how having a slashdot account means people have years of posts to try to use against you, out of context. But I guess some people actually will occasionally point this out. Thanks.
Yes, I have a house 100 miles from the plant AND (unfuckingbelievable!) I have friends close to my house. I cannot sell my house because my mother-in-law would have no place to go. My friend is trying to sell his apartment (
) with no luck, so there is no point in me trying to sell, anyway.
I am an authentic Fukushima refugee. This is the Internet, and this is an article re Fukushima. Is this really so unlikely? Do concede before your bad karma gets you hit by a bus.
I hope you ARE a paid shill, because someone posting such a long winded and meticulous reply to support such an argument for free makes me more depressed about your life than my own Fukushima refugee ass.
With that out of the way, my post seems incredibly valuable in that your pretty conclusive:
"It seems fairly apparent based on that wiki that while Fukushima is a serious nuclear event, it is a fraction of the calamity that Chernobyl was, using the available objective data"
Statement has been transformed into a bunch of meager qualifying statements that equate to "we might as well try to figure out with what we got." And, though you have beaten me in snobbery, I challenge you to another cherished Internet tradition, brevity:
-Any estimate change (3x the original) will impact the final total and should generate doubt in all estimates to date
-My argument is against your premature conclusion, not the current "official" guesstimate, per se.
-Not thinking TEPCO is relevant makes you clueless to the reality of the situation.
-Again, not attacking the wiki, just your clueless statement.
-No, I am saying your conclusive comparison is clueless
-I have no problem with wikis, just your premature conclusive statement
-The situation is still ongoing with tons more people (let's give this thing, say, 15 more years to conclude)
-Finally, have you ever had to leave your paid off land and quit your job because of a nuclear accident, and remained a completely polite person in the process? Fuck you, your premature ejaculative conclusions, and snobbish reply.
Your pollution = change climate over the next 50 to 100 years.
My pollution = fucking kill our children or ability to have children in the next 20 years.
Both are bad, but I know which one I would like to prioritize . . .
This is my fucking life, destroyed by people just as moronic as you, but with power.
I was in Japan when it happened. I still own a house 100 miles from the plant (no one can sell). I actually made a life changing decision based on this event and my sense that TEPCO and the government were lying.
Meanwhile clueless fucks like yourself spout crap without any action or risk. If the situation was as overblown as you make it seem, you would make tons of money investing in land around the area, yet no one is buying . . . Which means not just you but all other fucks who seem to share your idea on the situation are either financial fucktards or are just spewing bullshit because they can.
Either way, on the behalf of the victims (including myself), fuck you and fuck all those like you. May you remember this post when YOUR "oh, fuck" moment in life occurs.
I was there when it happened and left for this very reason (at significant cost to my finances and career). It took 3 months for them to confirm rumors that the reactors had melted down, and the rumors these days are that steam is coming from cracks in the ground.
I think, in the end, the USSR did not feel like it needed to play PR games with the public. The government already had complete control, so they had no reason to lie at a certain point. However, PR is everything for the nuclear lobby in Japan, which may be the most powerful group in the country (remember, Japan is not just the #1 exporter of nuclear reactors, they are the ONLY exporter). Any little fact that gets denied, delayed, or manipulated results in either additional profit made or saved. Accordingly, I do not consider the reports coming out of Japan as facts, just measuring points for where the tip of the iceberg is.
What a relief! In fact, how much money have you invested in real estate in the area, by the way, because to have such views as you do and not invest in the extremely under-priced (by your accord) land would make you either a fucking moron or a fucking shill with nothing to lose for spewing a bunch of crap.
I have a good friend who cannot sell his new apartment 100 miles South from the plant. No one is buying. Just fucks like you saying everything is fine from a million miles away without putting one shiny nickle behind their beliefs.
Just wait for China and India to double their reactors. We all know that their safety record is even MORE stellar.
It would be nice if we could push energy technologies that would not pollute the entire Northern Hemisphere every time our not so smart foreign counterparts have an "oops" moment . . .
The Japanese are forcing their kids to live in contaminated areas as part of an unprecedented experiment, while jackasses like yourself try to play the whole thing as some kind of comical joke. Well, on behalf of the victims of the accident, including myself, fuck you.
Just keep thinking nothing like this could ever happen in your backyard . . . just fucking keep thinking that . . .
When new estimates are constantly coming out. And, "available objective data?" You have never fucking heard of TEPCO, have you?
I think anyone seriously trying to do comparisons at this point is clueless, especially when radioactive particles are continuously spewing out from the Fukushima site at rates that can only be guesstimated.
Do you think Ferzerp gives a fuck about people!? As long as it is no one he knows, he does not give a fuck about the people in Fukushima and is more than happy to parrot his beliefs, as it costs him nothing. Besides, nuke power is still the cheapest and cleanest for HIM.
We are doomed as a species, but Ferzerp's belief system is more confident than ever.
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from the Japanese nuke industry.
The Fukushima plant's "question marks" step begins after the "blow up plant" step.
Of course, I was in Tokyo most of the time, and it was the only company providing the first "non-dumb" smartphones (iphone) at the time. When the 3/11 earthquake hit, of course, the service was non-existent, but I do not know any other services that really survived (though, my emobile mobile wifi dongle worked well enough).
Say what you want, but Softbank really brought the iphone revolution (now the iphone and android revolution) to Japan. Also, I am sure the smartgrid will not be wireless . . .
Let me get this straight. The most successful Japanese business man is going balls to the wall for renewable energy after his country has just experienced what still could become the worst nuclear accident ever. You:
- Probably have significantly less money that can be invested in ANY project (not that you would bother investing in Japan if you did).
- Probably do not even HAVE any assets in Japan at risk.
- Did not even take the time to look up what Japans real alternative energy profile looks like.
You know, I am assuming you are a fellow American because that seems to be what Americans do all the time, tell the rest of the world what is best for them without even bothering to learn anything about their situation (Hell, it is how Japan first got into the nuke business, to begin with). However, do you think the nuke industry really needs posts like yours? It is really sad to see little people like yourself cheer on the giants who wouldn't lose any sleep if they smeared your little life all over the pavement. Even more pathetic from the eyes of those who have been direct victims of such industry giants.
Just noting the remarkable timing I got on two completely different threads by an Anon personally attacking me. Consequently, I assume it is the same Anon.
To use Anon posting for personal attacks against signed-in users must be something only done by those with such low self-esteem and basis for argument that they are unable to socially engage on fair ground. I find it truly disturbing the amount of time you must have wasted on this effort and believe it must stem from some serious social disorder you must be suffering from. Though I am ignoring your post/s, I found it necessary to point out that you are abusing a very useful functionality of Slashdot. Some posters have legitimate reasons for using the Anon feature to allow them to inform our community without compromising their careers or personal safety. Your abuse of this feature risks undermining that which brings otherwise unobtainable information to the community (by increasing the likelihood that all Anon posts will be ignored). In other words, you are hurting the community for selfish and antisocial personal gain. Please stop.
Anyone finding themselves in a similar situation are free to reuse the last paragraph. I believe if we respond consistently as a community we can limit the effects of such destructive behavior.
Nice, so you are claiming I am dishonest based on an argument method I used (over a month ago) in a post that was being used in this thread to create a strawman that I was a liar. Meanwhile, as an Anon, you are completely immune to any similar scrutiny. Accordingly, I am unable to really confirm your motivations for posting or even if you are the same person (unless I believe an anonymous post saying you are). I might as well assume you are the NRC individual I replied to a month ago, coming back for a revenge as an Anon (what pitiful thing to do . . .).
., and I would argue that you are the most dishonest relevant party so far for posting as an Anon (and using it as an opportunity to attack past posts, something that cannot be done to you). Consequently, this will be my last reply to an Anon.
Thanks, I think you just taught me why I should just ignore Anons 100% of the time going forward . .
Was going to read your comment but then realized you are a spineless Anon, so I wont bother reading it.
Not sure how that is pointing out my dishonesty. He was claiming I lied that I worked for the NRC and your (actually, not sure if you are the same Anon) post indicates I never did such a thing.
I cannot readily put my house on the market because my mother-in-law has nowhere else to go. My friend (who has an apartment near my house, shocker) has not been able to find any buyers, anyway. Another poster has already kindly pointed out that you are taking my earlier post out of context.
Did you use this same masterful method of reasoning to conclude that Chernobyl > Fukushima, at this early date?
However, we do not live in an ideal world and, post-Fukushima, we really live in a different world. When an accident does occur, the level of contamination is at such a different magnitude and density.
Don't get me wrong, both suck and please let me know if you have come across something more recent that includes Fukushima, but I have yet to see such an argument seriously made post-Fukushima.
He is in VIRGINIA! Fukushima is not in VIRGINIA! Ergo, he is a fucking retard for wanting a geiger counter, right! RIGHT!?
Oh, wait.
Or maybe you are lacking the mental comprehension to understand my argument? Fukushima should be a changing point for how we treat nuclear technology. Buying a geiger counter is now a good idea, because the disaster in Fukushima taught us we can never be too careful. Making fun of such an act is a dipshit thing to do and disrespect to the victims of Fukushima.
Here is an example. Let us say 6 months after 9/11 your friend said he was scared of tall buildings and was thinking of buying a parachute. Making fun of him would be a dipshit thing to do and would be a form of disrespect to the victims of 9/11 and the horrific end they met. So yes, fuck you.
If government is not capable of adequately managing the risks of nuclear power and ensuring plants do not end up spewing their contents into the atmosphere before being decommissioned, then I really do not think it matters where anyone lives, as long as it is on this Earth. And yes, I do expect the government to protect nuclear plants from terrorists, or decide not to build them all together.
There are ways to invest in Japan real estate without the red tape or illiquidity (J-REITS), and, for instance, Orix is below its 3/11 dip. If the situation has been overblown, then why does the market not agree?
I remember reading it a while back but was having trouble using the right search terms just now. There appears to be an article describing this here.
Awesome that you went to the trouble to point this out, though. Thanks.
But, if I were hit by a bus, and I had falsely accused a victim of a disaster of being a liar based on some none issue (to win an argument), it would probably be one of my last thoughts before dying. We all die sometime, best to die with a clean conscience.
And, if you took my comment to mean he literally deserved to die just for disagreeing with me, then you must be shocked and horrified by a lot of things every day.
I am surprised someone here actually took the time to read the context and then post. Just shows how having a slashdot account means people have years of posts to try to use against you, out of context. But I guess some people actually will occasionally point this out. Thanks.
Yes, I have a house 100 miles from the plant AND (unfuckingbelievable!) I have friends close to my house. I cannot sell my house because my mother-in-law would have no place to go. My friend is trying to sell his apartment ( ) with no luck, so there is no point in me trying to sell, anyway.
I am an authentic Fukushima refugee. This is the Internet, and this is an article re Fukushima. Is this really so unlikely? Do concede before your bad karma gets you hit by a bus.
Sir -
I hope you ARE a paid shill, because someone posting such a long winded and meticulous reply to support such an argument for free makes me more depressed about your life than my own Fukushima refugee ass.
With that out of the way, my post seems incredibly valuable in that your pretty conclusive:
"It seems fairly apparent based on that wiki that while Fukushima is a serious nuclear event, it is a fraction of the calamity that Chernobyl was, using the available objective data"
Statement has been transformed into a bunch of meager qualifying statements that equate to "we might as well try to figure out with what we got." And, though you have beaten me in snobbery, I challenge you to another cherished Internet tradition, brevity:
-Any estimate change (3x the original) will impact the final total and should generate doubt in all estimates to date
-My argument is against your premature conclusion, not the current "official" guesstimate, per se.
-Not thinking TEPCO is relevant makes you clueless to the reality of the situation.
-Again, not attacking the wiki, just your clueless statement.
-No, I am saying your conclusive comparison is clueless
-I have no problem with wikis, just your premature conclusive statement
-The situation is still ongoing with tons more people (let's give this thing, say, 15 more years to conclude)
-Finally, have you ever had to leave your paid off land and quit your job because of a nuclear accident, and remained a completely polite person in the process? Fuck you, your premature ejaculative conclusions, and snobbish reply.
Your pollution = change climate over the next 50 to 100 years.
My pollution = fucking kill our children or ability to have children in the next 20 years.
Both are bad, but I know which one I would like to prioritize . . .
This is my fucking life, destroyed by people just as moronic as you, but with power.
I was in Japan when it happened. I still own a house 100 miles from the plant (no one can sell). I actually made a life changing decision based on this event and my sense that TEPCO and the government were lying.
Meanwhile clueless fucks like yourself spout crap without any action or risk. If the situation was as overblown as you make it seem, you would make tons of money investing in land around the area, yet no one is buying . . . Which means not just you but all other fucks who seem to share your idea on the situation are either financial fucktards or are just spewing bullshit because they can.
Either way, on the behalf of the victims (including myself), fuck you and fuck all those like you. May you remember this post when YOUR "oh, fuck" moment in life occurs.
I was there when it happened and left for this very reason (at significant cost to my finances and career). It took 3 months for them to confirm rumors that the reactors had melted down, and the rumors these days are that steam is coming from cracks in the ground.
I think, in the end, the USSR did not feel like it needed to play PR games with the public. The government already had complete control, so they had no reason to lie at a certain point. However, PR is everything for the nuclear lobby in Japan, which may be the most powerful group in the country (remember, Japan is not just the #1 exporter of nuclear reactors, they are the ONLY exporter). Any little fact that gets denied, delayed, or manipulated results in either additional profit made or saved. Accordingly, I do not consider the reports coming out of Japan as facts, just measuring points for where the tip of the iceberg is.
What a relief! In fact, how much money have you invested in real estate in the area, by the way, because to have such views as you do and not invest in the extremely under-priced (by your accord) land would make you either a fucking moron or a fucking shill with nothing to lose for spewing a bunch of crap.
I have a good friend who cannot sell his new apartment 100 miles South from the plant. No one is buying. Just fucks like you saying everything is fine from a million miles away without putting one shiny nickle behind their beliefs.
Just wait for China and India to double their reactors. We all know that their safety record is even MORE stellar.
It would be nice if we could push energy technologies that would not pollute the entire Northern Hemisphere every time our not so smart foreign counterparts have an "oops" moment . . .
The Japanese are forcing their kids to live in contaminated areas as part of an unprecedented experiment, while jackasses like yourself try to play the whole thing as some kind of comical joke. Well, on behalf of the victims of the accident, including myself, fuck you.
Just keep thinking nothing like this could ever happen in your backyard . . . just fucking keep thinking that . . .
When new estimates are constantly coming out. And, "available objective data?" You have never fucking heard of TEPCO, have you?
I think anyone seriously trying to do comparisons at this point is clueless, especially when radioactive particles are continuously spewing out from the Fukushima site at rates that can only be guesstimated.
Do you think Ferzerp gives a fuck about people!? As long as it is no one he knows, he does not give a fuck about the people in Fukushima and is more than happy to parrot his beliefs, as it costs him nothing. Besides, nuke power is still the cheapest and cleanest for HIM.
We are doomed as a species, but Ferzerp's belief system is more confident than ever.