There is no useful testing a user can do. The factory has already run more tests, at a deeper level, than anything the user could imagine or replicate....
And then it gets packed and shipped to a vendor, and repacked and shipped to a customer.
Or it gets packed and shipped to a company which divides up that shipment and ships it again to their brick and mortar outlets.
Or there's a distributor in between the manufacturer and the retailer.
Anyway, it can be perfect coming out of the factory and get used as a football somewhere during shipping.
Do you perform extensive functional tests against third party software libraries before including them in your system? In most situations, no -- if it's established and proven. You trust that it does what it advertises, and only when it doesn't do you dig further.
Same goes for hard drives.
Can those software libraries be packed much more poorly by one vendor than another, or shipped via a carrier that plays football with them, and be different from how they were before shipping as a result?
Skip the short test - that's all run during the long test. Don't skip the conveyance test though, supposedly that does some additional testing specific to the drives having been transported that the short/long tests does not cover.
Run the short test.
If it fails that, no need to waste hours on the long one.
And everywhere you go, you get wildly conflicting results like this.
That's my experience. The reliability changes from model to model from the same manufacturer are huge.
Buying drives is pretty much pot-luck.
Not to mention that specifications get changed while the model number stays the same, so you can't even rely on that to know what you're getting.
And if it's a drive in a retail box the actual drive inside probably isn't the same model as the one that was in the box a year ago, so you're twice blind.
Yep, it's a roll of the dice at best.
And that's before you factor in that the brand you're buying just got bought out by another brand so that what you think is from one company may be a rebadged one from the other company, which really makes the model number meaningless.
My usual routine when a drive starts to go back is to back its data up using dd
ddrescue is the tool for backing up a failing drive unless you really want to manually check every failed sector read then restart a new dd (skipping to the next sector).
dd_rescue
on the MFS Live cd v1.4 has saved me in the past after freezing the bad drive and then running with the -r switch and a default of 512 and a fallback of 1.
Not to mention that " "He drew a glove with flames coming out of it," his mother said." is not the same as drawing a gun. He could have been trying to come up with a new character to sell to Marvel.
And so far the only behavior anyone has actually specified is that the kid drew something.
Either they left out most of the story, or there's not really a story.
Yeah, but back then cable was basically the local broadcasters (who ran ads, of course, except PBS) or the "premium" channels--HBO, Cinemax, and Showtime, for which you paid extra.
To fill in channels 2-13 they added in stuff like WGN and WTBS (which was WTCG back then), which were sat feeds of actual OTA stations in Chicago and Atlanta, so they had ads as well.
When they started adding other, not as expensive as the premiums but you had to pay for the extra "tier", those channels had ads, except maybe Disney. Even though you were paying extra for them.
Of course now they've got it set up so that everybody's subsidizing the sports channels because of the way things are bundled.
If they can screw you, they will, and they will just because they can.
Do you honestly think there's anything worse than being the kind of person who could do this in the first place?
If an omnipotent being offered you the choice between the punishment you recommend or being the kind of person who could do something like this, which would you choose?
So you have to get the FCC involved to get their attention enough to get to the person who can take care of your problem without having to get the FCC involved?
I'm assuming you didn't previously have this guy's direct number or any way of getting it.
I know that, unfortunately for buyers of hard drives, Seagate was buying Samsung's hard drive division (but only that part of Samsung) back arounnd the time of the flood, but this is the first I've heard of Samsung owning any of Seagate.
Did Seagate pay them with stock shares instead of money?
Ironically (is that the word I want here?), the TiVo is more "hackable" in some ways than the other stuff for the most part, and people wind up learning stuff about hard drives and routers that they otherwise wouldn't and some who otherwise wouldn't be are even exposed to the Linux command line.
Re-radiate, as in when a sound wave of the right frequency vibrates whichever string(s) is/are "tuned" to that pitch, they "resonate" and vibrate at the same frequency and thus re-radiate that same tone.
I think some TV antennas have elements that sort of do the same thing only with electromagnetic waves and at a much higher frequency.
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Correct.
It's their latest model, the Unobtania.
There is no useful testing a user can do. The factory has already run more tests, at a deeper level, than anything the user could imagine or replicate....
And then it gets packed and shipped to a vendor, and repacked and shipped to a customer.
Or it gets packed and shipped to a company which divides up that shipment and ships it again to their brick and mortar outlets.
Or there's a distributor in between the manufacturer and the retailer.
Anyway, it can be perfect coming out of the factory and get used as a football somewhere during shipping.
Do you perform extensive functional tests against third party software libraries before including them in your system? In most situations, no -- if it's established and proven. You trust that it does what it advertises, and only when it doesn't do you dig further.
Same goes for hard drives.
Can those software libraries be packed much more poorly by one vendor than another, or shipped via a carrier that plays football with them, and be different from how they were before shipping as a result?
Skip the short test - that's all run during the long test. Don't skip the conveyance test though, supposedly that does some additional testing specific to the drives having been transported that the short/long tests does not cover.
Run the short test.
If it fails that, no need to waste hours on the long one.
Would you care to share that script? asked the fellow dd_rescue user.
Isn't this what hot spares are for?
Which model TiVo is it that lets you use hot spares?
And everywhere you go, you get wildly conflicting results like this.
That's my experience. The reliability changes from model to model from the same manufacturer are huge.
Buying drives is pretty much pot-luck.
Not to mention that specifications get changed while the model number stays the same, so you can't even rely on that to know what you're getting.
And if it's a drive in a retail box the actual drive inside probably isn't the same model as the one that was in the box a year ago, so you're twice blind.
Yep, it's a roll of the dice at best.
And that's before you factor in that the brand you're buying just got bought out by another brand so that what you think is from one company may be a rebadged one from the other company, which really makes the model number meaningless.
My usual routine when a drive starts to go back is to back its data up using dd
ddrescue is the tool for backing up a failing drive unless you really want to manually check every failed sector read then restart a new dd (skipping to the next sector).
dd_rescue
on the MFS Live cd v1.4 has saved me in the past after freezing the bad drive and then running with the -r switch and a default of 512 and a fallback of 1.
But he said "different from" instead of "different than", so he's still good.
No need for that, just institute the obvious solution.
Outlaw basements.
That picture could be restaurant sized containers of fryer oil and a batch of instant mashed potatoes.
Not to mention that " "He drew a glove with flames coming out of it," his mother said." is not the same as drawing a gun. He could have been trying to come up with a new character to sell to Marvel.
And so far the only behavior anyone has actually specified is that the kid drew something.
Either they left out most of the story, or there's not really a story.
Yeah, but back then cable was basically the local broadcasters (who ran ads, of course, except PBS) or the "premium" channels--HBO, Cinemax, and Showtime, for which you paid extra.
To fill in channels 2-13 they added in stuff like WGN and WTBS (which was WTCG back then), which were sat feeds of actual OTA stations in Chicago and Atlanta, so they had ads as well.
When they started adding other, not as expensive as the premiums but you had to pay for the extra "tier", those channels had ads, except maybe Disney. Even though you were paying extra for them.
Of course now they've got it set up so that everybody's subsidizing the sports channels because of the way things are bundled.
If they can screw you, they will, and they will just because they can.
You left out the Dumont Network, you insensitive clod!
: - )
And if you have Earthlink over Time-Warner's wire, when it doesn't work you can call either one of them to hear them blame the other.
Do you honestly think there's anything worse than being the kind of person who could do this in the first place?
If an omnipotent being offered you the choice between the punishment you recommend or being the kind of person who could do something like this, which would you choose?
Burning this particular gunman at the stake would be known as cremation, as he is already dead.
So you have to get the FCC involved to get their attention enough to get to the person who can take care of your problem without having to get the FCC involved?
I'm assuming you didn't previously have this guy's direct number or any way of getting it.
Who owns who?
I know that, unfortunately for buyers of hard drives, Seagate was buying Samsung's hard drive division (but only that part of Samsung) back arounnd the time of the flood, but this is the first I've heard of Samsung owning any of Seagate.
Did Seagate pay them with stock shares instead of money?
Who says it has to make sense for there to be someone who believes it happened?
That explains so much about so many things one encounters in this world and in this life.
But so far, only in the UK.
Unless they get one of those new Virgin Media TiVos.
Ironically (is that the word I want here?), the TiVo is more "hackable" in some ways than the other stuff for the most part, and people wind up learning stuff about hard drives and routers that they otherwise wouldn't and some who otherwise wouldn't be are even exposed to the Linux command line.
Some of us are far enough into geezerhood that we remember when "made in Japan" pretty much universally meant cheap junk.
Now if you'll excuse me I need to go yell at a cloud.
Or some kids on the lawn.
I always get the two confused.
Go Google "fiduciary responsibility"
Re-radiate, as in when a sound wave of the right frequency vibrates whichever string(s) is/are "tuned" to that pitch, they "resonate" and vibrate at the same frequency and thus re-radiate that same tone.
I think some TV antennas have elements that sort of do the same thing only with electromagnetic waves and at a much higher frequency.