Since the 1850's, the Rockefeller corruption network...
So while the rest of the world thought John D. Rockefeller's father was a traveling salesman (and maybe even snake oil salesman) whose cheating on John's mother eventually turned into abandoning the family and living under an assumed name in a bigamous marriage in Canada, he was actually out setting up this secret network?
Which didn't happen to those that were intelligent enough to work hard, open a business, and save their money.
Unless they saved that money in one of the many, many banks that got wiped out by the Crash of '29 and its falling dominoes aftermath, even though the bank itself only made prudent investments.
Did you ever know anybody who lived through those times? Or listen to what they had to say?
If you take out a life insurance policy, and pay the premiums without fail, is it charity when the company pays off the policy to your family upon your demise?
Social Security is neither welfare nor charity. It is insurance.
Specifically, it is death insurance, although of course it will never be officially referred to in that way.
When you fail to live when you're supposed to, during the years when you would work and support your family, life insurance pays off.
When you fail to die when your're supposed to, when you are too old or too disabled to work, death insurance pays off.
You pay premiums on both., which are determined with the help of actuarial tables so that the risk is spread out over all of the insured. It is only just that both pay off when they are supposed to.
As for the notion of "...let's not save, we'll just make do with the Social Security we get...", anyone expecting to make do with only Social Security is in for a very rude awakening.
The movies that we see nowadays are already written by computer.
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I just read the first paragraph or so of a synopsis of the plot of the new movie "Battleship". There's no way to program a computer to put up with that much illogic.
present a much more attractive target than the power pole or that big tree on the bedroom side of the house, and your worries are way down. professionally installed lightning rods with big-ass ground leads to a nice multipoint ground is much more attractive, and proven to work well.
And better still, what they do is bleed off charge before it can ionize the air to prevent it becoming lightning in the first place, which means no lightning bolt and therefore no induction in nearby conductors.
OP here. Forgot to mention, if your house has an isolated neutral bar (most don't, but if it's very new it may), you'll want to buy two, and tie one to neutral and the other to ground. This will give you L-N and L-G protection, and they'll both do L-L.
The presence of an isolated neutral is dictated by panelboard (circuit breaker box) location.
At the service entrance (meter box) the (white wire) neutral, also known as the grounded conductor, is bonded to ground, as is the (bare or green wire) grounding conductor. The "neutral" is really only neutral in a 240V circuit, in a 120V circuit it carries the same current as flows through the "hot" wire.
The "ground" wire is only supposed to carry current if something goes wrong.
In any breaker or junction box "downstream" from the meter/service entrance, the "ground" wire goes to a buss bar that's bonded to the cabinet, and the "neutral" goes to a buss bar that's isolated and electrically insulated from the cabinet. The "neutral" is not connected to "ground" or anything which is grounded except at the service entrance.
A properly installed man-made lightening rod system, which bleeds off charge before it gets to be enough to ionize the air, could help protect the nearby trees as well as your house, although not from voltage induced on the lines coming into your house by a strike further away.
Rather than Google "whole house surge protection" and read through many advertisements masquerading as facts, can someone just tell me the true purpose of whole house surge protection? If you still need local surge protectors, what is the whole house unit doing? Taking more of the blow from large spikes like lightning? Do they help keep a house from exploding?
(I'm asking because I don't know. While my post won't help subby, I'm hoping good responses to this question may help lots of people.)
The same lightening strike that can induce current in the wires leading up to your house can induce current in the wires inside your house.
If the house explodes it's probably because the lightening induced current in the nails and other metal fasteners and heated them enought to turn the moisture in the surrounding wood into steam. I'm not joking, I've seen an exterior wooden window frame blown apart from that, and suspect that's what caused the fire in the attic immediately above it.
Lightening rods are good for bleeding off charge in your immediate area before it gets high enough to ionize the air, which is an excellent idea, but a strike elsewhere that induces a spike on your power and/or phone lines and/or cableTV lines won't be prevented by your lightening rod.
You're not kidding about lightning being odd. We had a lightning strike that blew a hole in our roof. No fire, but powerful enough to blast roof fragments through the attic insulation, through the ceiling and into a room below. We found shingles up to 30 meters away from the house. Yet the strike only took out our washing machine, ethernet card in the PC, and a couple of other minor electronics. But it also toasted several of our neighbors computers.
A whole house surge protector wouldn't have help us at all. But it might have had the interesting side effect of protecting our neighbors.
I don't think you could have done a thing to protect your neighbors in that situation.
It could be that the lightening induced enough current into the various nails and other metal fasteners to heat them so much that it turned the moisture in the framing and plywood or particle board sheathing into steam which blew things apart.
Shorting the voltage induced in the house's wiring would have done nothing to prevent that, although it would have helped protect the items plugged into it.
Lightening rods aren't supposed to get hit, they're supposed to bleed off the charge before it can build up enough to flash. That's why they're pointy-ended on top and have to have excellent grounding.
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Then you should be painfully familiar with the phenomenon of which my sig speaks.
I thought that was what Guy Fawkes masks were for?
"Plus, I am no one to argue with a 4 digit ID guy."
A 4 digit ID does not guarantee a 4 digit IQ.
And I can prove it.
Love the sig, by the way.
What's the oldest version of Windows you've ever used on a regular basis?
Are you using genuine Reynolds Aluminum for that hat?
Normally, well-argued points don't include the phrase "if this were a SNES game" - just a heads up if you want to be taken seriously.
True, this being Slashdot, he should have used a car analogy instead.
Since the 1850's, the Rockefeller corruption network ...
So while the rest of the world thought John D. Rockefeller's father was a traveling salesman (and maybe even snake oil salesman) whose cheating on John's mother eventually turned into abandoning the family and living under an assumed name in a bigamous marriage in Canada, he was actually out setting up this secret network?
I was wondering how long it would take a Philip Nolan reference to pop up.
I guess they quit making school kids read that a while back.
That looks like it might be an interesting post.
Is there a translation of it into English available?
A contract requires consent. Please show me where I consented to this contract.
Sure. It was right about the time that you stayed here instead of leaving.
Which didn't happen to those that were intelligent enough to work hard, open a business, and save their money.
Unless they saved that money in one of the many, many banks that got wiped out by the Crash of '29 and its falling dominoes aftermath, even though the bank itself only made prudent investments.
Did you ever know anybody who lived through those times? Or listen to what they had to say?
If you take out a life insurance policy, and pay the premiums without fail, is it charity when the company pays off the policy to your family upon your demise?
Social Security is neither welfare nor charity. It is insurance.
Specifically, it is death insurance, although of course it will never be officially referred to in that way.
When you fail to live when you're supposed to, during the years when you would work and support your family, life insurance pays off.
When you fail to die when your're supposed to, when you are too old or too disabled to work, death insurance pays off.
You pay premiums on both., which are determined with the help of actuarial tables so that the risk is spread out over all of the insured. It is only just that both pay off when they are supposed to.
As for the notion of "...let's not save, we'll just make do with the Social Security we get...", anyone expecting to make do with only Social Security is in for a very rude awakening.
Then why do they call it "Greek"?
The movies that we see nowadays are already written by computer.
.
I just read the first paragraph or so of a synopsis of the plot of the new movie "Battleship". There's no way to program a computer to put up with that much illogic.
Someone please re-program Watson to know when to use "less" and when to use "fewer".
Anyway... What are we going to do with all these people?
There was a movie about that. I think it was the only time Edward G. Robinson did SciFi.
Another issue with incandescent is recycling them after they burn out.
Are you sure you mean incandescent? The kind (glowing filament) for which Edison was famous?
present a much more attractive target than the power pole or that big tree on the bedroom side of the house, and your worries are way down. professionally installed lightning rods with big-ass ground leads to a nice multipoint ground is much more attractive, and proven to work well.
And better still, what they do is bleed off charge before it can ionize the air to prevent it becoming lightning in the first place, which means no lightning bolt and therefore no induction in nearby conductors.
OP here. Forgot to mention, if your house has an isolated neutral bar (most don't, but if it's very new it may), you'll want to buy two, and tie one to neutral and the other to ground. This will give you L-N and L-G protection, and they'll both do L-L.
The presence of an isolated neutral is dictated by panelboard (circuit breaker box) location.
At the service entrance (meter box) the (white wire) neutral, also known as the grounded conductor, is bonded to ground, as is the (bare or green wire) grounding conductor. The "neutral" is really only neutral in a 240V circuit, in a 120V circuit it carries the same current as flows through the "hot" wire.
The "ground" wire is only supposed to carry current if something goes wrong.
In any breaker or junction box "downstream" from the meter/service entrance, the "ground" wire goes to a buss bar that's bonded to the cabinet, and the "neutral" goes to a buss bar that's isolated and electrically insulated from the cabinet. The "neutral" is not connected to "ground" or anything which is grounded except at the service entrance.
A properly installed man-made lightening rod system, which bleeds off charge before it gets to be enough to ionize the air, could help protect the nearby trees as well as your house, although not from voltage induced on the lines coming into your house by a strike further away.
Your insurance company may insist on it being installed by a licensed electician even if local codes don't.
Rather than Google "whole house surge protection" and read through many advertisements masquerading as facts, can someone just tell me the true purpose of whole house surge protection? If you still need local surge protectors, what is the whole house unit doing? Taking more of the blow from large spikes like lightning? Do they help keep a house from exploding?
(I'm asking because I don't know. While my post won't help subby, I'm hoping good responses to this question may help lots of people.)
The same lightening strike that can induce current in the wires leading up to your house can induce current in the wires inside your house.
If the house explodes it's probably because the lightening induced current in the nails and other metal fasteners and heated them enought to turn the moisture in the surrounding wood into steam. I'm not joking, I've seen an exterior wooden window frame blown apart from that, and suspect that's what caused the fire in the attic immediately above it.
Lightening rods are good for bleeding off charge in your immediate area before it gets high enough to ionize the air, which is an excellent idea, but a strike elsewhere that induces a spike on your power and/or phone lines and/or cableTV lines won't be prevented by your lightening rod.
You're not kidding about lightning being odd. We had a lightning strike that blew a hole in our roof. No fire, but powerful enough to blast roof fragments through the attic insulation, through the ceiling and into a room below. We found shingles up to 30 meters away from the house. Yet the strike only took out our washing machine, ethernet card in the PC, and a couple of other minor electronics. But it also toasted several of our neighbors computers.
A whole house surge protector wouldn't have help us at all. But it might have had the interesting side effect of protecting our neighbors.
I don't think you could have done a thing to protect your neighbors in that situation.
It could be that the lightening induced enough current into the various nails and other metal fasteners to heat them so much that it turned the moisture in the framing and plywood or particle board sheathing into steam which blew things apart.
Shorting the voltage induced in the house's wiring would have done nothing to prevent that, although it would have helped protect the items plugged into it.
Lightening rods aren't supposed to get hit, they're supposed to bleed off the charge before it can build up enough to flash. That's why they're pointy-ended on top and have to have excellent grounding.