I stand by it even if it is from 1995... all that means is that the browser should put the rendering engine in a sandbox and should handle the output before letting it out.
The only reason this isn't done already is probably performance... reading data twice is probably too much overhead, so they don't do it the right way.
Still a render engine shouldn't need to worry about anything but rendering.
Again, it's a bug not a vulnerability. So the render engine allows for a buffer overflow... shouldn't that be handled at a lower level? As in should there be a registration of some sort happening where the render engine can broadcast the stated buffer it is expecting to use, then an overflow handler at a lower level will check the actual output against the expected output?
Uh... Webkit doesn't have vulnerabiities it has bugs... the browser is what has vulnerabilities. Webkit has no network stack... it can't communicate. All it can do is accept input and render output.
The javascript engine can have vulnerabilities because of XMLHttp, cookies and filesystem access... but even then it passes all comms through the browser or directly through the filesystem.
Well actually herbivores are typically the tastiest of meats, if you fatten them up on high calorie carbohydrates.... just add lots of corn and wheat into their diet and you'll be enjoying your vegans like never before.
And in 5+ years how have the standard bodies done?
I'm not arguing with you over what SHOULD be... I'm just talking about what IS.
And all buildings around the world should be handicap accessible as well... just isn't gonna happen.
Should we also make all the beaches with wheelchair access down to the water?
How about if we mandate that all books be published in Braille? Add in a publishing tax to pay for it....
Why not require that all movies shown in theaters have captions.... wouldn't that be a huge step for the hearing disabled...
speaking of which, does your browser provide optimal support for text to speech and do you put in all the correct CSS for voice emphasis?
Have you even tested your sites using a screenreader? For one thing they all offer different levels of support for pretty much everything and none of them follow the W3C standards.
Have you ever interviewed people who are handicapped? 90% don't even use those things... only the extreme cases do... want to know why?
They don't support flash and 90% of websites can't offer full support for them, so you end up with a limited version of the site.
Basically handicapped people don't want to be treated like second class citizens. That means they don't want YOUR version of the web, they want the version that everybody else gets, with Flash, with RIA, with all the widgets and doodads and cool stuff.
They'd rather get someone to help them than to have to rely on an assistive device being supported.
I think it's a very noble cause you support but at the same time the reality is that handicapped people want to be normal... not treated like special ed kids.
Regarding rendering issues... that's probably an artifact of your machines ability to antialias... on my mac I have no issues with serif fonts at sizes approximately 12px or larger (~11pt).... obviously everything looks better on a mac so YMMV
Hmmm not necessarily. Where I live people commute for an hour and a half to get to work each day. They do so because it is too expensive to do otherwise but regardless of the reason it is an accepted reality that they commute to work.
The same could be done for a port in a flood zone. The "city" could be located in an area that may still be hit by a hurricane but would not be in a flood zone and which is an hour drive away... even better they could set up a light rail line to support the commute for those workers.
There is no reason that the city proper has to be located adjacent to the port.
My point exactly... Word Documents are much more accessible once you download them... if you're really concerned about accessibility you should maybe think about providing Word versions of all your pages for those who would rather read them in an application that has immense support for assistive devices.
No problem here... the pages I design with interesting fonts aren't really meant for the likes of you anyways. If you enjoy them despite the lack of visual context good for you...
If you are worried over semantics, HTML may not be the media for you.
If you are worried over accessibility, HTML may not be the media for you.
[paraphrasing] Yes 2004 was 60.7 percent but that still means 78 million eligible voters stayed home. Bush won just 30.8 percent of the total eligible voters. [/paraphrasing]
The people not bothering to vote could easily make the difference.
Regarding canceling out votes. I was speaking generally. I have no idea where YOU live but I'm general it applies. FYI the reason more states aren't relevant is because people don't vote.
If everyone voted I suspect elections would be more closely reflective of the popular vote though that would have to happen at several stages and would take some time to make a difference.
SO you leave it up to the rest of us? Your choice, just don't complain if the worst choice in your opinion gets in to office.
Voting isn't about getting your perfect choice into office. It's about choosing the best candidate from those available. you look at the candidates and select the one you think can a) make the biggest difference in your life and b) cause the least harm to everyone else
I voted for Bush twice because the other candidates opposing him were worse choices. John Kerry was a putz and Al Gore just wasn't a leader (a fine and good public servant but not a leader). He was at the times the better candidate - and I stand by those choices despite the results.
This year I'll vote for Barack both because I think he'll do a good job and because I think McCain would do a poor job. I'm lucky this year... one of the candidates is IMHO a good choice.
SO don't vote - but remember, I will. SO if you think McCain is better in any way than Barack - you could cancel out my vote... or alternatively if you think Barack is the least dangerous candidate you could help ensure his winning the election by voting for him.
ah but at least with a touch screen it's easy to clean.... keyboards and remotes are impossible to clean, so if that's your concern you should go with the touch screen, just wipe it on your pant leg every so often.
AIR lets you pick your language... it is practically a browser replacement using WebKit as it's html/dom render engine which lets you script however you like.... well, it supports javascript, actionscript and can be extended to allow for coding in C/C++ and all the other languages that sit on top:
Oh i agree with you completely, which is why i was just trolling... there's nothing useful to add to this conversation until someone comes up with a legitimate input device for interacting in 3D.... using a 2D input device makes 3D visuals nothing but candy.
The only use for 3D now is entertainment value. I'm currently working on a 3D interface for a flash application to control an Inflight entertainment system... nothing but candy. A 2D interface would be easier to use, etc. etc. but hey... it's just entertainment, so whatever the client wants. Well it's also just a hardware performance demo.. so really it's just supposed to show off what the hardware CAN do, not what you should do with it.
When Apple reinvents iLife to be a VR world where you can edit photos in a dark room, put up a virtual gallery of them, walk them down to get books made, etc. etc. Garage Band will actually be a garage studio where you can lay down tracks with your friends... pull off concerts for millions, etc etc. iMovie will be a virtual film studio with greenscreen and effects lab in real time....
I live 43 miles from my local TV repeater antennas. I bought a DB4 and mounted it on the roof of my house, used a compass to find the correct direction to point it (supported with cardinals from AntennaWeb as well).
My house is single story but on a hillside with a slight view over my neighbors roofs.My reception is perfect. I get 40+ channels with all the major channels in 1080i or 720p HD.
I bought a DigitalTerrestrial receiver from Samsung with HDMI output as my TV (Westinghouse 27in flat/HD) is HD capable but not HD ready.
When I tried it down lower on the wall behind reception was non-existent. I used my old DishNetwork armature to position and direct it (they didn't want to pay for shipping it back;-) but still had to put it on my roof.
With the DB8 you should be able to get reception within 60-80 miles of your residence as long as you can get it high enough.
Ask your landlord if they allow antennas on the roof or just put it up there and string the cable down.... it's likely your only hope if your not getting reception from your apartment. No matter how good the antenna is it's not going to work behind a bunch of buildings (unless there's a good bounce signal)
Your only other hope is that there's a good bounce signal somewhere.... you'll just have to turn your antenna slowly and try to find it.
To all those out there who decry flash as a threat to the internet, etc etc
I am currently developing a kiosk style application using Flash. This is the type of app that would be overkill to develop in a standard language using OpenGL or a Game engine for graphics and yet still one which requires better graphic support than is capable using html and javascript.
It needs to be able to stream video and audio, needs animation, needs an http stack to communicate with the streaming server and needs logic to make it interactive rather than just a demo.
Sure I could host it on a Windows PC but since it will be deployed on hundreds of thousands of devices that would be cost prohibitive.
So what I'm trying to say is that not all Flash applications are built to annoy you. This one is being built to entertain you while you are 30,000 ft in the air and 6+ hours from your destination.
So if you want to have a great in flight experience... support Flash on Linux.
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My company uses a LOS wireless device for our main internet connection. It's cheaper than a fiber link and gives us decent bandwidth...
we're on the 4th floor of an office building and happen to have an open window pointing in the right direction though... so YMMV.
They could do two things to make this work:
a) Porn Source it... ie: provide a system that gives credits to porn site for each video identified
b) Put it into a MMORG as a way to gain experience or currency, then you'd have all of China and india doing the work for pennies
I stand by it even if it is from 1995... all that means is that the browser should put the rendering engine in a sandbox and should handle the output before letting it out.
The only reason this isn't done already is probably performance... reading data twice is probably too much overhead, so they don't do it the right way.
Still a render engine shouldn't need to worry about anything but rendering.
Again, it's a bug not a vulnerability. So the render engine allows for a buffer overflow... shouldn't that be handled at a lower level? As in should there be a registration of some sort happening where the render engine can broadcast the stated buffer it is expecting to use, then an overflow handler at a lower level will check the actual output against the expected output?
Uh... Webkit doesn't have vulnerabiities it has bugs... the browser is what has vulnerabilities. Webkit has no network stack... it can't communicate. All it can do is accept input and render output.
The javascript engine can have vulnerabilities because of XMLHttp, cookies and filesystem access... but even then it passes all comms through the browser or directly through the filesystem.
Well actually herbivores are typically the tastiest of meats, if you fatten them up on high calorie carbohydrates.... just add lots of corn and wheat into their diet and you'll be enjoying your vegans like never before.
And in 5+ years how have the standard bodies done?
I'm not arguing with you over what SHOULD be... I'm just talking about what IS.
And all buildings around the world should be handicap accessible as well... just isn't gonna happen.
Should we also make all the beaches with wheelchair access down to the water?
How about if we mandate that all books be published in Braille? Add in a publishing tax to pay for it....
Why not require that all movies shown in theaters have captions.... wouldn't that be a huge step for the hearing disabled...
speaking of which, does your browser provide optimal support for text to speech and do you put in all the correct CSS for voice emphasis?
Have you even tested your sites using a screenreader? For one thing they all offer different levels of support for pretty much everything and none of them follow the W3C standards.
Have you ever interviewed people who are handicapped? 90% don't even use those things... only the extreme cases do... want to know why?
They don't support flash and 90% of websites can't offer full support for them, so you end up with a limited version of the site.
Basically handicapped people don't want to be treated like second class citizens. That means they don't want YOUR version of the web, they want the version that everybody else gets, with Flash, with RIA, with all the widgets and doodads and cool stuff.
They'd rather get someone to help them than to have to rely on an assistive device being supported.
I think it's a very noble cause you support but at the same time the reality is that handicapped people want to be normal... not treated like special ed kids.
BTW if you have a personal stylesheet you should easily be able to say:
html, body, p, h1, h1, h3, h4, h5, h6 {
font-family: Arial, sans!important;
}
add in any additional tags you really want to override and voila... it's done.
CSS override priority goes like this:
user agent declarations
user normal declarations
author normal declarations
author important declarations
user important declarations
http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/cascade.html#cascading-order
It's really not that complicated
Regarding rendering issues... that's probably an artifact of your machines ability to antialias... on my mac I have no issues with serif fonts at sizes approximately 12px or larger (~11pt).... obviously everything looks better on a mac so YMMV
DIdn't you hear... Google Chrome comes with V8!!!!
Hmmm not necessarily. Where I live people commute for an hour and a half to get to work each day. They do so because it is too expensive to do otherwise but regardless of the reason it is an accepted reality that they commute to work.
The same could be done for a port in a flood zone. The "city" could be located in an area that may still be hit by a hurricane but would not be in a flood zone and which is an hour drive away... even better they could set up a light rail line to support the commute for those workers.
There is no reason that the city proper has to be located adjacent to the port.
My point exactly... Word Documents are much more accessible once you download them... if you're really concerned about accessibility you should maybe think about providing Word versions of all your pages for those who would rather read them in an application that has immense support for assistive devices.
uh by scanning I meant visual scanning... as in reading down the page quickly to find what you're looking for.
a relevant link
uh, it's a proven fact that serif fonts are easier to read but harder to scan.
If you want someone to READ your content then serif... if you just want them to scan then sans... you must be a scanner.
No problem here... the pages I design with interesting fonts aren't really meant for the likes of you anyways. If you enjoy them despite the lack of visual context good for you...
If you are worried over semantics, HTML may not be the media for you.
If you are worried over accessibility, HTML may not be the media for you.
very high turnouts? I suppose
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A10492-2005Jan14.html
[paraphrasing]
Yes 2004 was 60.7 percent but that still means 78 million eligible voters stayed home. Bush won just 30.8 percent of the total eligible voters.
[/paraphrasing]
The people not bothering to vote could easily make the difference.
Regarding canceling out votes. I was speaking generally. I have no idea where YOU live but I'm general it applies. FYI the reason more states aren't relevant is because people don't vote.
If everyone voted I suspect elections would be more closely reflective of the popular vote though that would have to happen at several stages and would take some time to make a difference.
SO you leave it up to the rest of us? Your choice, just don't complain if the worst choice in your opinion gets in to office.
Voting isn't about getting your perfect choice into office. It's about choosing the best candidate from those available. you look at the candidates and select the one you think can a) make the biggest difference in your life and b) cause the least harm to everyone else
I voted for Bush twice because the other candidates opposing him were worse choices. John Kerry was a putz and Al Gore just wasn't a leader (a fine and good public servant but not a leader). He was at the times the better candidate - and I stand by those choices despite the results.
This year I'll vote for Barack both because I think he'll do a good job and because I think McCain would do a poor job. I'm lucky this year... one of the candidates is IMHO a good choice.
SO don't vote - but remember, I will. SO if you think McCain is better in any way than Barack - you could cancel out my vote... or alternatively if you think Barack is the least dangerous candidate you could help ensure his winning the election by voting for him.
ah but at least with a touch screen it's easy to clean.... keyboards and remotes are impossible to clean, so if that's your concern you should go with the touch screen, just wipe it on your pant leg every so often.
AIR lets you pick your language... it is practically a browser replacement using WebKit as it's html/dom render engine which lets you script however you like.... well, it supports javascript, actionscript and can be extended to allow for coding in C/C++ and all the other languages that sit on top:
Java, Python, Ruby, PHP, Lua, Perl, C# (Mono), JavaScript
hmm I've got 10.5.5 and all i had to do to get rid of it was copy the /. url in my bowser and it switched to that... ie not persistent
I don't care enough to recreate your experiment (just enough to respond..) so YMMV apparently
Oh i agree with you completely, which is why i was just trolling... there's nothing useful to add to this conversation until someone comes up with a legitimate input device for interacting in 3D.... using a 2D input device makes 3D visuals nothing but candy.
The only use for 3D now is entertainment value. I'm currently working on a 3D interface for a flash application to control an Inflight entertainment system... nothing but candy. A 2D interface would be easier to use, etc. etc. but hey... it's just entertainment, so whatever the client wants. Well it's also just a hardware performance demo.. so really it's just supposed to show off what the hardware CAN do, not what you should do with it.
When Apple reinvents iLife to be a VR world where you can edit photos in a dark room, put up a virtual gallery of them, walk them down to get books made, etc. etc. Garage Band will actually be a garage studio where you can lay down tracks with your friends... pull off concerts for millions, etc etc. iMovie will be a virtual film studio with greenscreen and effects lab in real time....
Until then nobody will care ;-p
I live 43 miles from my local TV repeater antennas. I bought a DB4 and mounted it on the roof of my house, used a compass to find the correct direction to point it (supported with cardinals from AntennaWeb as well).
My house is single story but on a hillside with a slight view over my neighbors roofs.My reception is perfect. I get 40+ channels with all the major channels in 1080i or 720p HD.
I bought a DigitalTerrestrial receiver from Samsung with HDMI output as my TV (Westinghouse 27in flat/HD) is HD capable but not HD ready.
When I tried it down lower on the wall behind reception was non-existent. I used my old DishNetwork armature to position and direct it (they didn't want to pay for shipping it back ;-) but still had to put it on my roof.
With the DB8 you should be able to get reception within 60-80 miles of your residence as long as you can get it high enough.
Ask your landlord if they allow antennas on the roof or just put it up there and string the cable down.... it's likely your only hope if your not getting reception from your apartment. No matter how good the antenna is it's not going to work behind a bunch of buildings (unless there's a good bounce signal)
Your only other hope is that there's a good bounce signal somewhere.... you'll just have to turn your antenna slowly and try to find it.
To all those out there who decry flash as a threat to the internet, etc etc
I am currently developing a kiosk style application using Flash. This is the type of app that would be overkill to develop in a standard language using OpenGL or a Game engine for graphics and yet still one which requires better graphic support than is capable using html and javascript.
It needs to be able to stream video and audio, needs animation, needs an http stack to communicate with the streaming server and needs logic to make it interactive rather than just a demo.
Sure I could host it on a Windows PC but since it will be deployed on hundreds of thousands of devices that would be cost prohibitive.
So what I'm trying to say is that not all Flash applications are built to annoy you. This one is being built to entertain you while you are 30,000 ft in the air and 6+ hours from your destination.
So if you want to have a great in flight experience... support Flash on Linux.
That seriously sounds like they just needed to give people jobs.... and fill up the work day with as much unnecessary make-work as possible.
Communism... gotta love it