lol wut? +5 Interesting as if its just *common knowledge* that Mexico City tried this & found that too many people bought other cars...like we talk about that on/. all the time...WTF...
you need to present some kind of evidence...and mods need to fix the score
Actually no. Hawking radiation doesn't actually leave a black hole, it's created at the event horizon
nice...was going to post this but I wouldn't have explained it as well...
honest quesiton: do you think what you described is commonly understood among physicists? It seems to me, and I of course could be wrong, that alot of stuff I see on/. is conflating what happens *on the event horizon* with the actual black hole itself
I even got into a discussion with the editors of the Black Hole wiki...the first sentence is the maxim "BH is a region of space from with nothing, even light, can escape"
Why is it okay to mistreat non-engineers? Why does job title make any difference?
You have to do some serious linguistic gymnastics to infer that from my comment.
She is *not* being inflamitory...she is using careful language.
Some have accused her of using inflamitory language to describe non-sexism...others have said she should have "spoken up sooner" citing her tweets from her first days at work saying she liked the job
however you arrange it, the distinction is not helpful to this discussion whatsoever...what you say makes sense logically but in application its nothing more than an excuse to minimize sexism
sexism is a huge problem...whatever words you use...the actual behavior needs to change
seriously, the choice to contexualize the question as being dependent upon different "types" of problems is reductive and stupid
This is not a gender problem, this is a people problem.
Gender problems are people problems you fool!
This false dichotomy you purvey, that this social situation is "either A or B" is reductive and shows how far our industry has sunk.
So, is murder not a violence problem, but just a people problem? Rape...by your logic not sexual in nature...just a people problem!
Racism? Naw...that's just a people problem...by your logic.
Your reductive contextualization **insures** that you will misidentify the cause of the problem and whatever you do as a fix *will not work*
Until *men* in the tech industry mature beyond adolesence we will have this problem. It's **our fault** and we must be **proactive** to fix the problem.
If she had to deal with this because she is female, if people treated her differently and if there are persistent problems for women then it is sexism. If not it's just a crappy place to work full stop.
So it's either sexual harrassment OR just a crappy place to work???
Not a chance, AmiMoJo...both go hand in hand...sexism in the workplace is a **symptom** of a greater problem...it's **one way** unprofessionalism can be expressed. These things do not happen in compartmentalized little spaces...it's a sign of institutional rot.
This woman was an **engineer** she's one of us. She obviously is trying to use careful language to not seem inflamitory...if anything, she is ***downplaying*** the level of sexism in her workplace...like a humble geek/engineer would!
from TFA:
Horvath told us that she “participated in the boys’ club upon joining,” but when her “character started being discussed in inappropriate places like on pull requests and issues,” the situation changed.
I object to the notion that because she sent tweets, when she *first started working* about how she liked her job, that means we should some how be critical of what she is saying now...things change at a job after the first few months, everyone knows this.
i'm sure there are some counterpoints from the protesters, but at first glance i don't think the opposition can really quibble with this as a solution
i'd have to actually use the system (i live in pdx) to know if the tech-busses clog traffic too much, but again...this seems like a legit attempt at a fix
wow, I didn't even realize folks do this... for what purpose?
idk he replied below maybe if you ask him he'll give a different answer that is more revealing
i think it's someone I pissed off who is mad that I got upmodded when their response didnt or something on a long-dead thread...this isn't likely though, as they post quite a bit
that or they just picked to Karma Whore me b/c of random reasons
i honestly can't tell you...it's weird b/c I do have 'excellent' karma but i'm not really a 'slashdot fixutre' or anything just a random guy who hates M$, false dichotomies, republicans, and artificial scarcity....i post mostly in the space, programming, 'social media' and free speech areas
i seriously have **no idea** why anyone would want the world to think they are me!!!!
look, #3526197...this is #574257)...i know that users like yourself are part of being on the internet...i don't like that you copied my user profile stuff & I wish you'd close it down...but i mean...this is the internet...
what i think crosses the line is when you **reply to the person you're imitating**
let's not shit where we eat, ok?
and really...could you just change up your sig at least? why would you want to appear to be me anyways???
hmm idk busygary...I've thought about this & i hope he's in a position where he can exchange information for some kind of reduction of charges to misdemeanors here in the USA...does the federal government even have misdemeanors? like some kind of "misuse of government property" and get a suspended sentence & the crime is gone in 5 years kind of thing. That's what I'd hope could happen.
Can he attempt to buy his reputation like Gates or Carnegie?
b/c of how I view this, he's really fighting for his personal freedom right now
Are public events like SXSW that currency that he will spend on it?
i think this was a PR/propaganda tactic (a new, evil but not illegal combination of the two: PRpoganda)...basically whoever is manipulating him scheduled the SXSW thing b/c they thought it would help somenow...idk...anything to get him free & not in prison
I really don't want him in prison *unless he's done stuff we dont know* of course...too many potentially good people in prison
just because **on paper** there are **theoretically** fewer cars (you assume they wouldn't carpool or take public transit or bike/walk)
so you're theory is blown right there b/c your only evidence is conjecture
the busses could in fact cause **more** traffic problems by **disrupting traffic at the bus stop**
if you've ever been behind a city bus on a busy two-lane street, you'll know quickly that line forms of cars trying to go left around the slow, often stopping bus
public transit is a **balanced system**
this is abuse of the property & public right of way
****taxi cabs can't just sit at the bus stop in a line...it's against traffic laws....Google must obey the same****
Google should get permission and pay or be denied access.
eradication of malaria, the delivery of clean drinking water and readily available birth control to all as objectives
Sociopaths can donate money to charity when it helps their tax burden.
Bill Gates didn't himself do any work except public appearances...he's a **Billionaire** you don't get points for making charities to solve well-known problems that also promote your company's products
Gates **should** give his money to charity...the fact that he does **the bare minimum** to charties that spread his products to new markets...and gets a **tax write off** doesn't make him not a sociopath
and the people who are attacking google employees, slashing buss tires are what? robin hood?
right.
so **you agree** that Google is abusing public property...and now you want to know my **opinion** of whether opponents of Google's bus system were justified in using direct action?
yes, i agree with blocking the busses with human chains and have a huge sign that says "FUCK YOU GOOGLE"...no i don't agree with breaking windows, slashing tires, or other property destruction
Snowden was a dupe. He was blackmailed...and manipulated/handled by journalist Glenn Greenwald (who was **supposed** to protect his source, even from himself if necessary). As for now we can only guess at his original motivations, but I tend to think he had a sort of condescending desire to show people "how they are sheeple"...so theoretically we could round up to "whistleblower"....**maybe**
Right now, Snowden is essentially in prison in Russia.
browsing the comments you seem to be in the minority...most of the posts on this article go a step further than you and **admit the dont' like it**
it's funny to note how different commenters qualify their comment in support of the US government **controlling the internet**
let's remember this moment...
as soon as an article is posted about a **domestic issue** the trolls come out in droves....comment after comment....endless discussions between "libertarians" vocally opposing **anything** the US government does and their detractors.
Slashdot Mirror
show it...I read the article, it doesn't claim what you say it claims..
copy and paste the applicable text, if it's so blantantly obvious to you it should be easy for you to demonstrate
I admit I could be misinterpreting AmiMoJo's comment. If so that's my bad.
your link mentions the rug but not in any way that proves your point...
you can't point out the obvious and then make it seem like you're representing a "side" of the argument
***of course*** the behavior described could be misrepresented...pointing that out is redundant
***if the allegations are true*** then it is *sexism* by the Federal workplace standards
lol wut? +5 Interesting as if its just *common knowledge* that Mexico City tried this & found that too many people bought other cars...like we talk about that on /. all the time...WTF...
you need to present some kind of evidence...and mods need to fix the score
nice...was going to post this but I wouldn't have explained it as well...
honest quesiton: do you think what you described is commonly understood among physicists? It seems to me, and I of course could be wrong, that alot of stuff I see on /. is conflating what happens *on the event horizon* with the actual black hole itself
I even got into a discussion with the editors of the Black Hole wiki...the first sentence is the maxim "BH is a region of space from with nothing, even light, can escape"
you missed my point entirely
sexism is **a problem for everyone**...it is *not* a singular behavior but an expression of selfishness & narcissism
if a team of coders has one woman who endures sexist comments & actions there is one *victim* but ***ITS A PROBLEM FOR THE WHOLE COMPANY***
In fact it's our whole industry.
And this doesn't even touch male/male or female->male sexism.
WTF you're an idiot.
You have to do some serious linguistic gymnastics to infer that from my comment.
She is *not* being inflamitory...she is using careful language.
Some have accused her of using inflamitory language to describe non-sexism...others have said she should have "spoken up sooner" citing her tweets from her first days at work saying she liked the job
whateverthefuck you thought i was saying is wrong
GitHub considered her an engineer.
Your assertions demand evidence, espcially this one:
I saw this article: http://valleywag.gawker.com/st...
Doesn't mention Horvath...***does*** mention other employees who didn't like the rug
Your bullshit is piling up fast...unless you have any evidence whatsover you're just a dumb troll
however you arrange it, the distinction is not helpful to this discussion whatsoever...what you say makes sense logically but in application its nothing more than an excuse to minimize sexism
sexism is a huge problem...whatever words you use...the actual behavior needs to change
seriously, the choice to contexualize the question as being dependent upon different "types" of problems is reductive and stupid
Gender problems are people problems you fool!
This false dichotomy you purvey, that this social situation is "either A or B" is reductive and shows how far our industry has sunk.
So, is murder not a violence problem, but just a people problem? Rape...by your logic not sexual in nature...just a people problem!
Racism? Naw...that's just a people problem...by your logic.
Your reductive contextualization **insures** that you will misidentify the cause of the problem and whatever you do as a fix *will not work*
Until *men* in the tech industry mature beyond adolesence we will have this problem. It's **our fault** and we must be **proactive** to fix the problem.
So it's either sexual harrassment OR just a crappy place to work???
Not a chance, AmiMoJo...both go hand in hand...sexism in the workplace is a **symptom** of a greater problem...it's **one way** unprofessionalism can be expressed. These things do not happen in compartmentalized little spaces...it's a sign of institutional rot.
This woman was an **engineer** she's one of us. She obviously is trying to use careful language to not seem inflamitory...if anything, she is ***downplaying*** the level of sexism in her workplace...like a humble geek/engineer would!
from TFA:
Horvath told us that she “participated in the boys’ club upon joining,” but when her “character started being discussed in inappropriate places like on pull requests and issues,” the situation changed.
I object to the notion that because she sent tweets, when she *first started working* about how she liked her job, that means we should some how be critical of what she is saying now...things change at a job after the first few months, everyone knows this.
thnx man that's interesting about how dense populations *should* reduce cost of living according to Economy of Scale but indeed the reverse is true
it's gotta have something to do with our Fiat system + the Fed...interest rates and inflation...minimum wage...rent controls...something something...
but really i think it just comes down to the old, "location, location, location" truism from real estate....they charge more b/c they can
It's here b/c it's relevant...and hilarious!
A transhumanist childrens book called "Death is Wrong"
i lol'ed
also, I noted with joy at the category TFA was placed in..."sci-fi"...well played, samzenpus
i didn't say that
i said ***all he does is write checks***
that's very VERY different from what you, trollingly, claimed I said
yeah that changes everything...thnx!
i'm sure there are some counterpoints from the protesters, but at first glance i don't think the opposition can really quibble with this as a solution
i'd have to actually use the system (i live in pdx) to know if the tech-busses clog traffic too much, but again...this seems like a legit attempt at a fix
thnx again for posting that...
idk he replied below maybe if you ask him he'll give a different answer that is more revealing
i think it's someone I pissed off who is mad that I got upmodded when their response didnt or something on a long-dead thread...this isn't likely though, as they post quite a bit
that or they just picked to Karma Whore me b/c of random reasons
i honestly can't tell you...it's weird b/c I do have 'excellent' karma but i'm not really a 'slashdot fixutre' or anything just a random guy who hates M$, false dichotomies, republicans, and artificial scarcity....i post mostly in the space, programming, 'social media' and free speech areas
i seriously have **no idea** why anyone would want the world to think they are me!!!!
show me evidence that Google has paid the city for Right of Way access to the bus stops
let's see it
look, #3526197...this is #574257)...i know that users like yourself are part of being on the internet...i don't like that you copied my user profile stuff & I wish you'd close it down...but i mean...this is the internet...
what i think crosses the line is when you **reply to the person you're imitating**
let's not shit where we eat, ok?
and really...could you just change up your sig at least? why would you want to appear to be me anyways???
hmm idk busygary...I've thought about this & i hope he's in a position where he can exchange information for some kind of reduction of charges to misdemeanors here in the USA...does the federal government even have misdemeanors? like some kind of "misuse of government property" and get a suspended sentence & the crime is gone in 5 years kind of thing. That's what I'd hope could happen.
b/c of how I view this, he's really fighting for his personal freedom right now
i think this was a PR/propaganda tactic (a new, evil but not illegal combination of the two: PRpoganda)...basically whoever is manipulating him scheduled the SXSW thing b/c they thought it would help somenow...idk...anything to get him free & not in prison
I really don't want him in prison *unless he's done stuff we dont know* of course...too many potentially good people in prison
just because **on paper** there are **theoretically** fewer cars (you assume they wouldn't carpool or take public transit or bike/walk)
so you're theory is blown right there b/c your only evidence is conjecture
the busses could in fact cause **more** traffic problems by **disrupting traffic at the bus stop**
if you've ever been behind a city bus on a busy two-lane street, you'll know quickly that line forms of cars trying to go left around the slow, often stopping bus
public transit is a **balanced system**
this is abuse of the property & public right of way
****taxi cabs can't just sit at the bus stop in a line...it's against traffic laws....Google must obey the same****
Google should get permission and pay or be denied access.
Sociopaths can donate money to charity when it helps their tax burden.
Bill Gates didn't himself do any work except public appearances...he's a **Billionaire** you don't get points for making charities to solve well-known problems that also promote your company's products
Gates **should** give his money to charity...the fact that he does **the bare minimum** to charties that spread his products to new markets...and gets a **tax write off** doesn't make him not a sociopath
right.
so **you agree** that Google is abusing public property...and now you want to know my **opinion** of whether opponents of Google's bus system were justified in using direct action?
yes, i agree with blocking the busses with human chains and have a huge sign that says "FUCK YOU GOOGLE"...no i don't agree with breaking windows, slashing tires, or other property destruction
Gates is an evil sociopath.
Snowden was a dupe. He was blackmailed...and manipulated/handled by journalist Glenn Greenwald (who was **supposed** to protect his source, even from himself if necessary). As for now we can only guess at his original motivations, but I tend to think he had a sort of condescending desire to show people "how they are sheeple"...so theoretically we could round up to "whistleblower"....**maybe**
Right now, Snowden is essentially in prison in Russia.
Behave accordingly.
browsing the comments you seem to be in the minority...most of the posts on this article go a step further than you and **admit the dont' like it**
it's funny to note how different commenters qualify their comment in support of the US government **controlling the internet**
let's remember this moment...
as soon as an article is posted about a **domestic issue** the trolls come out in droves....comment after comment....endless discussions between "libertarians" vocally opposing **anything** the US government does and their detractors.
let's remember this...and moderate accordingly