My **car** insurance couldn't get much lower...an 80% discount wouldn't be a statistically significant incentive for me to buy/upgrade to a driverless car.
I have a national brand of car insurance and it costs me $46.00 every 6 months. I even have a DUI on my record.
Upgrading to a driverless car would at least cost in the low $10^5.
Given that disparity in significant figures ($10^5 cost for $10^1 savings) this offer wouldn't enter anyone's radar screen.
These driverless cars aren't going anywhere, but I have no idea who will use them beyond a few rich dudes in a few areas.
Just like with the Tesla...biz owners today have no concept of stuff that Henry Ford understood and popularized...
Google & Tesla *both* need a Model T version of their cars. Something super basic that the masses will buy.
Just don't go waving hammers, forks, feathers, milk, chips, or anything near a human if you don't intend on using that item on them.
exactly...good point about the 'as far as possible yet in straight line' too...speaking of 'points' how about after the robot moves the knife to the end of the table and then puts it in the bag...just toss the knife in the bag, no problem there...
I love that they brag that the robot is able to move the knife after "only 3 passes"....a "pass" being a time when the robot got too close, user had to hit the button and physically move it...
Only 3 times!
The deeper problem, IMHO is that academia is infatuated with the 'AI' model of robotics...emphasizing operational abstractions instead of a 'robot as tool' approach
They could start by halting dumb projects like making a 'robot' check out girl or 'robot' barrista...instead, make a robot that can mimic hand-sewing...see most garments have to have some component sewn (on a machine) by hand **still**....that's why it's done in China by quasi-slave labor
**that** would be a robot worth making...it would absolutely revolutionize garment manufacturing!
The problem with the 'AI' approach is that they would start making such a robot not by doing a kinestetic task analysis of sewing a tshirt....they would start by mapping the human hand's muscles and then spend 2 years making a mock-up of a hand...
**then** at year 3, they would demonstrate a pair of the hands in a lab on a table threading a needle...**after only 3 tries!**
take the 'tool' approach and you measure the position of the needle, thread, and garment in space/time and map the interaction...then you engineer the machinery to replicate and automate that complex motion of the factors...
there it is...the failure of all of 'robotics' and 'AI' in tshirts...IMHO...
Elop is listed as an 'outside' candidate, but he was essentially a mole for M$ for his whole debacle at Nokia. He went in, ran that company into the ground...now he gets his reward.
Watching M$ die its weird death is sort of like the scene in Blade Runner when Pris is killed and does that awesome android freak out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9t5ikxjAQ4
first, don't show a damn clip from TV crime *fiction* in a science-based discussion...just fuck off with that...
2nd, don't agree with my logic then say it supports the opposite conclusion.
Polygraphs for *anything* other than a suspect in an active investigation, done by a deputized officer trained in proper interrogation, is just a subsidy for wannabes who couldn't get into Medical School (polygraphers)
Employment polygraphs, be it for the CIA, FBI, NSA, or the corner grocery are a complete waste of time and money.
Your scenario is ridiculous ("meh, you'll always have like 15 so who cares if the best one is a false positive"...fuck off)...your stats about false positives are inventions of your imagination...your logic supports the opposite conclusion
I almost hope you **are** a paid commenter or bot.....you're perpetuating a criminal enterprise
thanks for the comment, I understand where you might be coming from...but see, I taught children ESL in Korea...the description you give is full of the same hype and irrational glee that I was criticizing IMHO
a layman can "program" the robot... a little like you would instruct a child.
that's not what is happening...refer to the video...it's not any kind of new technology, they just set it up a standard robot arm & created an artificial "checkout" scenario to get the arm to move objects
what they call 'programing' from the user 'iteratively' is essentially the same behavior as one of those little wind-up cars that would change directions 90 degrees if it hit an obstruction...i know they say 'heat map' but its not nearly as 'smart' as you make it out to be and it's not even close to being there
so moving the arm changes the path it takes...so the sensor has gradients (re: 'heat map')...that is **NOT** at all like teaching a child in any way...also, a 'layman' didn't have any part in this exercise...this was tightly controlled
this is simply a recontextualized demonstration of an already-existing technology gussied up with hype and knives
Robots will do what ever they are programmed to do. Programming them to recognize that stabbing someone is wrong is no different than programming them to claim stabbing is right. Simply change a 0 to a 1.
All machines follow instructions written by humans. "Deep learning" or w/e buzzword this research team used to describe their work is just that....buzzword for *standard issue programming*
I'm just curious. What technology would you have recommended that was open source in the late 90s? Java?
tl;dr I would have said 'java' but for them at that time, I think we can say fairly certainly that they at least saw ActiveX's problems and knew an alternative existed
Trying to put myself in the situation at the time, with the information available to them, using ActiveX in the late 90s would have been frustrating enough to make them at least consider Java...but I can't say they **should** have used either...if anything I understand completely why they might have just used ActiveX without a thought.
It's hard to imagine now (and I lived my formative adult years during it!), but back in 2001/2002 even when I was there you wouldn't expect a Korean IT guy to be aware serious criticism of Microsoft even existed. Remember the language barrier...of course they ran Linux, but on their home boxes they used as media servers (way before it became common in the USA, btw)...when it comes to "business" Koreans wouldn't mess around. They would go for what they know to be the best.
I was a/. reader back then, didn't post w/ my username IIRC, but I was aware of Linux & the 'M$' meme only b/c of/. I never met any Koreans who had heard of it back then and I didn't expect to.
They **do** see the same flaws in the system design as we do...however sometimes they interpret that as "something beyond my understanding" and just sort of power through it by following the rules. haha Can you imagine what they thought about the **HELP** menu??? It's mostly language barrier...and the rest is the flaws inherent in any coding context we all deal with.
What I'm saying is, b/c they assumed that the M$ ActiveX way was the right way b/c in the USA it was reported as the *best* or most 'popular'...well sometimes they then let the official M$ suggestion **be the standard** for good design across the system.
"If it fits into M$ system well then it's a good design..." was how they probably viewed it.
**that** mistake on their part might explain your Samsung experience
Well, partially wrong. They built their IT infrastructure based on the *best* available at the time: Microsoft
Blame Microsoft for making shitty products that lock-in users (and whole countries) to an inefficient half-assed software system.
caveat emptor? sure...but at some point you have to acknowledge that they culpability can't rest only on the consumer....M$ parasitic system design was/is truly evil
If you want to fault Korean culture, fault them for being too trusting of the USA in general....poor people actually take what we say at face value.
I lived there for 1 year...I know the ass-backwards way they sometimes adapt new technology...but this isn't that...the aren't inherently inefficient as a culture...they showed us what happens when a country actually does what M$ suggests...
Sort of like a 'Super Size Me' kind of project only with IT infrastructure for a whole country not fast food
M$ has made most of its profits from gov't contracts and users who don't know to expect better from a computing experience.
I taught ESL in South Korea in 2001/2002...it was right after 9/11 and during the World Cup. The country was burgeoning as a bankable international business player...competiting with **Japan** with companies like Samsung...no coincidence that they co-hosted with Japan that year;)
Korea was **all about it**...they wanted the best of what was available...to them, the USA was the best at computer tech...so obviously they went with the most *popular* Operating System, and they **made sure** to buy **ALL** the expansion packs and do exactly as M$ suggested...
Which means they've been on a never-ending nightmare Mobeius strip of a ride to user hell.....that, b/c of their trusting nature has painted them into an IT Engineering corner...which was M$ plan all along!
chemistry--organic and otherwise--is not mysticism. It is not a list of facts to memorize. There are rules, and learning the application of those rules will get you through any undergraduate course. Rote memorization is just the tactic that seems to be favored by pre-med students.
see, here's the crux IMHO
it's about education tactics...or the stunning lack thereof
Med School Prof's can be as bad as Engineering or Law school Prof's....they take it as a badge of pride that they suck at in-class instruction and education...
The higher up the Academia food-chain you go, the more the old Ivory Tower mentality still reigns
officers are allowed to question a suspect...they can ask "Did you steal that car?"
i guarantee it has happened where the cops just asked and the suspect just admitted it...even though they had no evidence...
if you have experience working in law enforcement or the courts you know what I mean...
some 'suspects' are more obviously guilty to the cops than others...IMHO, asking a suspect to take a polygraph and pretending it works is a justifiable tactic...because it really is the same as just asking "Did you steal that car?" only with some extra bullshit
I totally agree w/ your points about unfair questioning, plea bargains, etc, etc...I pretty much agree across the board...
in my view this is just a dispute of interrogation tactics
That's all the proof necessary. Snowden revealed **operational details** of programs everyone could have look at!!!
Knowing that it's called 'Prism' isn't functionally value-added information...it's just technical details...**we all knew since the fucking Patriot Act***
Snowden is a dupe who was tricked into spying for global money interests.
He was high off the smell of his own farts...intellectually, *he is being reductive with the concept of government secrecy*
The response to Snowden has been mostly to blame Obama. Even though most of the privacy invading policies were polices of GEORGE W BUSH (patriot act, warrentless wiretaps, etc etc)
To falsify my point, if Snowden really was what he wants us to think he was (an honest, aw shucks I just want to help whistleblower) then he would have used his precious Wikileaks to get the information out.
Wikileaks has released tons of info secretly and Snowden sure as hell knew it existed...
this is analogous to a drug test, but the drug test is based on whether **a person thinks you look stoned**
there it is...polygraphs are like that...
you can't make a logical counterpoint because none exists...polygraphs are simply some person's guess if you look like you are lying based on pseudo-science and w/e bullshit they want to invent in their heads
there is absolutely **no defense for it** and it should only be used to interrogate suspects of a specific crime (in case they are dumb enough to believe it works), not ever as routine security or pre-employement tests for things like probation, FBI, law enforcement, etc...
I was impressed with the NFL's revenue sharing (compared to other pro leagues) and also the level of "parity" among the teams is noticably higher than other pro sports!
I don't disagree with anything you say...you're right on...it doesn't disprove my point...i'm talking about on-field competition...fans, players, coaches, etc demand pure fair competition and we pull it off well
to the deeper point, you're hitting on the fact that the 'free market' and 'socialism' are not mutually exclusive...i'm a left-leaning libertarian...so that's kind of where I'm coming from
If some dude allegedly did something horrible and the cops were interrogating him, and they got him to agree to a polygraph and he was dumb enough to confess, I would be totally in favor of it...
I don't necessarily object to using the polygraph ever, in any circumstance...
However the majority of polygraphs are institutional polygraphs from govt, military, CIA, law enforcement, etc...they are given regularly and just like anything employees easily adapt b/c **they are bullshit**
Maybe the solution is to use them only if a person is suspected of a crime?
yeah i know what you mean...they say his *intent* was to help people evade detection (not necessary to specify type of detection...be it a records search, interview, drug test, etc)
my argument is essentially: how could doing something impossible be illegal? as another poster pointed out since these polygraphs are bullshit, the possibility of false-positive is high and troublesome for any job seeker in this market!
i will have to see the transcripts of the recorded conversations, where he allegedly tried to help a guy pass even though he'd sexually abused a minor, before I consider the prosectutions line of thinking
as it stands, this guy did not disclose any secret or protected information...the info he taught is freely available...i suspect he hooked people up to his own polygraph, but that's not illegal
either Polygraphs are bullshit or these charges should be dropped...
by setting up the sting and charging the guys for what they did, they government is admitting that it is possible to fool the polygraph
if it is possible to fool the polygraph it leaves no doubt that the polygraph is not scientific or useful
by proving these men guilty, the prosecution simultaneously proves that the lie detector is a farce and negates the logical need for the entire charade in the first place
To make it 'not work' all they have to do is whip up a basic "this site shutdown due to..." with a few HTML tags and its is "taken down due to the shutdown"
That's all...a few lines of HTML and a redirect!
Second, the criticism of the Obamacare website in the media is not representative of the ***ACTUALL*** technical problems.
Politics aside, the website problems were **routine IT work**...its not an excuse, but **management** is to blame for not scheduling testing with enough time before rollout...
So, this data is doubly unusuable...but it makes sense...
**of course** sites like Astronomy Picture of the Day were up in 24 hrs after the shutdown lifted!!!!! It just took a few lines of code!
I see what you're saying...you know all analogies have areas where you can poke holes...
however its an obvious logical example to support the idea that Americans know, love, and can create conditions for the 'proper' competition I described above
league politics aside, the very nature of sports is to be a pure meritocracy and the fans demand it
to falsify my point, about 10 years ago or so the Japanese Yokozuna Sumo wresting 'big league' was exposed to have been fixing and scripting matches up to the championship for years...
it was a terrible blow to the sport...at the time it was looked at as sort of a pure representation of traditional Japanese culture...a modern continuation of ancient competition...
if that happened in the NFL...if it was revealed to be fixed and scripted like the WWF **all hell would break loose** people would fuckign loose their minds with anger...the concussion cover-up thing would be nothing compared to that!
and that proves my point...Americans know and love pure competition within strict boundaries...the way the NFL regulates the game (with official video review, etc) is a good analogy
Do note, by the way, that I'm writing as a conservative/libertarian in philosophy
we more or less agree on this issue it seems and I'm a self-described 'left-leaning libertarian' & rabid critic of the GOP/"tea party"/conservative/"libertarians"
America knows fair competition. We celebrate it every Sunday w/ things like NFL football. We love absolute raw carnage within certain agreed boundaries that limit the factors of competition towards meritocracy.
We can ensure every market is 'properly' competitive...or at least very close on a continual basis.
You'd probably disagree w/ my comparison of health insurance company's profit model to the RIAA's profit model, but maybe I'm wrong.
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My **car** insurance couldn't get much lower...an 80% discount wouldn't be a statistically significant incentive for me to buy/upgrade to a driverless car.
I have a national brand of car insurance and it costs me $46.00 every 6 months. I even have a DUI on my record.
Upgrading to a driverless car would at least cost in the low $10^5.
Given that disparity in significant figures ($10^5 cost for $10^1 savings) this offer wouldn't enter anyone's radar screen.
These driverless cars aren't going anywhere, but I have no idea who will use them beyond a few rich dudes in a few areas.
Just like with the Tesla...biz owners today have no concept of stuff that Henry Ford understood and popularized...
Google & Tesla *both* need a Model T version of their cars. Something super basic that the masses will buy.
exactly...good point about the 'as far as possible yet in straight line' too...speaking of 'points' how about after the robot moves the knife to the end of the table and then puts it in the bag...just toss the knife in the bag, no problem there...
I love that they brag that the robot is able to move the knife after "only 3 passes"....a "pass" being a time when the robot got too close, user had to hit the button and physically move it...
Only 3 times!
The deeper problem, IMHO is that academia is infatuated with the 'AI' model of robotics...emphasizing operational abstractions instead of a 'robot as tool' approach
They could start by halting dumb projects like making a 'robot' check out girl or 'robot' barrista...instead, make a robot that can mimic hand-sewing...see most garments have to have some component sewn (on a machine) by hand **still**....that's why it's done in China by quasi-slave labor
**that** would be a robot worth making...it would absolutely revolutionize garment manufacturing!
The problem with the 'AI' approach is that they would start making such a robot not by doing a kinestetic task analysis of sewing a tshirt....they would start by mapping the human hand's muscles and then spend 2 years making a mock-up of a hand...
**then** at year 3, they would demonstrate a pair of the hands in a lab on a table threading a needle...**after only 3 tries!**
take the 'tool' approach and you measure the position of the needle, thread, and garment in space/time and map the interaction...then you engineer the machinery to replicate and automate that complex motion of the factors...
there it is...the failure of all of 'robotics' and 'AI' in tshirts...IMHO...
what do you think?
yup...agree...
Elop is listed as an 'outside' candidate, but he was essentially a mole for M$ for his whole debacle at Nokia. He went in, ran that company into the ground...now he gets his reward.
Watching M$ die its weird death is sort of like the scene in Blade Runner when Pris is killed and does that awesome android freak out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9t5ikxjAQ4
I call bullshit...
first, don't show a damn clip from TV crime *fiction* in a science-based discussion...just fuck off with that...
2nd, don't agree with my logic then say it supports the opposite conclusion.
Polygraphs for *anything* other than a suspect in an active investigation, done by a deputized officer trained in proper interrogation, is just a subsidy for wannabes who couldn't get into Medical School (polygraphers)
Employment polygraphs, be it for the CIA, FBI, NSA, or the corner grocery are a complete waste of time and money.
Your scenario is ridiculous ("meh, you'll always have like 15 so who cares if the best one is a false positive"...fuck off)...your stats about false positives are inventions of your imagination...your logic supports the opposite conclusion
I almost hope you **are** a paid commenter or bot.....you're perpetuating a criminal enterprise
thanks for the comment, I understand where you might be coming from...but see, I taught children ESL in Korea...the description you give is full of the same hype and irrational glee that I was criticizing IMHO
that's not what is happening...refer to the video...it's not any kind of new technology, they just set it up a standard robot arm & created an artificial "checkout" scenario to get the arm to move objects
what they call 'programing' from the user 'iteratively' is essentially the same behavior as one of those little wind-up cars that would change directions 90 degrees if it hit an obstruction...i know they say 'heat map' but its not nearly as 'smart' as you make it out to be and it's not even close to being there
so moving the arm changes the path it takes...so the sensor has gradients (re: 'heat map')...that is **NOT** at all like teaching a child in any way...also, a 'layman' didn't have any part in this exercise...this was tightly controlled
this is simply a recontextualized demonstration of an already-existing technology gussied up with hype and knives
exactly...mod up^
All machines follow instructions written by humans. "Deep learning" or w/e buzzword this research team used to describe their work is just that....buzzword for *standard issue programming*
tl;dr I would have said 'java' but for them at that time, I think we can say fairly certainly that they at least saw ActiveX's problems and knew an alternative existed
Trying to put myself in the situation at the time, with the information available to them, using ActiveX in the late 90s would have been frustrating enough to make them at least consider Java...but I can't say they **should** have used either...if anything I understand completely why they might have just used ActiveX without a thought.
It's hard to imagine now (and I lived my formative adult years during it!), but back in 2001/2002 even when I was there you wouldn't expect a Korean IT guy to be aware serious criticism of Microsoft even existed. Remember the language barrier...of course they ran Linux, but on their home boxes they used as media servers (way before it became common in the USA, btw)...when it comes to "business" Koreans wouldn't mess around. They would go for what they know to be the best.
I was a /. reader back then, didn't post w/ my username IIRC, but I was aware of Linux & the 'M$' meme only b/c of /. I never met any Koreans who had heard of it back then and I didn't expect to.
They **do** see the same flaws in the system design as we do...however sometimes they interpret that as "something beyond my understanding" and just sort of power through it by following the rules. haha Can you imagine what they thought about the **HELP** menu??? It's mostly language barrier...and the rest is the flaws inherent in any coding context we all deal with.
What I'm saying is, b/c they assumed that the M$ ActiveX way was the right way b/c in the USA it was reported as the *best* or most 'popular'...well sometimes they then let the official M$ suggestion **be the standard** for good design across the system.
"If it fits into M$ system well then it's a good design..." was how they probably viewed it.
**that** mistake on their part might explain your Samsung experience
You're wrong about Korean culture...
Well, partially wrong. They built their IT infrastructure based on the *best* available at the time: Microsoft
Blame Microsoft for making shitty products that lock-in users (and whole countries) to an inefficient half-assed software system.
caveat emptor? sure...but at some point you have to acknowledge that they culpability can't rest only on the consumer....M$ parasitic system design was/is truly evil
If you want to fault Korean culture, fault them for being too trusting of the USA in general....poor people actually take what we say at face value.
I lived there for 1 year...I know the ass-backwards way they sometimes adapt new technology...but this isn't that...the aren't inherently inefficient as a culture...they showed us what happens when a country actually does what M$ suggests...
Sort of like a 'Super Size Me' kind of project only with IT infrastructure for a whole country not fast food
M$ has made most of its profits from gov't contracts and users who don't know to expect better from a computing experience.
I taught ESL in South Korea in 2001/2002...it was right after 9/11 and during the World Cup. The country was burgeoning as a bankable international business player...competiting with **Japan** with companies like Samsung...no coincidence that they co-hosted with Japan that year ;)
Korea was **all about it**...they wanted the best of what was available...to them, the USA was the best at computer tech...so obviously they went with the most *popular* Operating System, and they **made sure** to buy **ALL** the expansion packs and do exactly as M$ suggested...
Which means they've been on a never-ending nightmare Mobeius strip of a ride to user hell.....that, b/c of their trusting nature has painted them into an IT Engineering corner...which was M$ plan all along!
see, here's the crux IMHO
it's about education tactics...or the stunning lack thereof
Med School Prof's can be as bad as Engineering or Law school Prof's....they take it as a badge of pride that they suck at in-class instruction and education...
The higher up the Academia food-chain you go, the more the old Ivory Tower mentality still reigns
right...
officers are allowed to question a suspect...they can ask "Did you steal that car?"
i guarantee it has happened where the cops just asked and the suspect just admitted it...even though they had no evidence...
if you have experience working in law enforcement or the courts you know what I mean...
some 'suspects' are more obviously guilty to the cops than others...IMHO, asking a suspect to take a polygraph and pretending it works is a justifiable tactic...because it really is the same as just asking "Did you steal that car?" only with some extra bullshit
I totally agree w/ your points about unfair questioning, plea bargains, etc, etc...I pretty much agree across the board...
in my view this is just a dispute of interrogation tactics
wrong.
anyone can go online or to the local library and read the Patriot Act for themselves...
same for this article: "NSA has massive database of Americans' phone calls" from **2006** http://yahoo.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-05-10-nsa_x.htm
That's all the proof necessary. Snowden revealed **operational details** of programs everyone could have look at!!!
Knowing that it's called 'Prism' isn't functionally value-added information...it's just technical details...**we all knew since the fucking Patriot Act***
Snowden is a dupe who was tricked into spying for global money interests.
He was high off the smell of his own farts...intellectually, *he is being reductive with the concept of government secrecy*
The response to Snowden has been mostly to blame Obama. Even though most of the privacy invading policies were polices of GEORGE W BUSH (patriot act, warrentless wiretaps, etc etc)
To falsify my point, if Snowden really was what he wants us to think he was (an honest, aw shucks I just want to help whistleblower) then he would have used his precious Wikileaks to get the information out.
Wikileaks has released tons of info secretly and Snowden sure as hell knew it existed...
not sure we disagree...I'm in favor of very progressive corrections model...at least comparatively for the USA
big time advocate against for-profit prisons
there it is...polygraphs are like that...
you can't make a logical counterpoint because none exists...polygraphs are simply some person's guess if you look like you are lying based on pseudo-science and w/e bullshit they want to invent in their heads
there is absolutely **no defense for it** and it should only be used to interrogate suspects of a specific crime (in case they are dumb enough to believe it works), not ever as routine security or pre-employement tests for things like probation, FBI, law enforcement, etc...
nice trolling...precisely because eyes and locks can be fooled means that, indeed, the polygraph is bullshit...
here's why: you lock your car even though it can be picked (i love how you're a locksmith **and** magician)
if none of us locked our cars, even though locks can be picked, then you would have some kind of point...but we live in the real world here
this is analogous to a drug test, but the drug test is based on whether **a person thinks you look stoned**
no defense for how the polygraph is used...just because perception can be manipulated doesn't prove or disprove anything...it's a trolling point
yeah, man, I agree...
I was impressed with the NFL's revenue sharing (compared to other pro leagues) and also the level of "parity" among the teams is noticably higher than other pro sports!
I don't disagree with anything you say...you're right on...it doesn't disprove my point...i'm talking about on-field competition...fans, players, coaches, etc demand pure fair competition and we pull it off well
to the deeper point, you're hitting on the fact that the 'free market' and 'socialism' are not mutually exclusive...i'm a left-leaning libertarian...so that's kind of where I'm coming from
Americans know fair competition...
If some dude allegedly did something horrible and the cops were interrogating him, and they got him to agree to a polygraph and he was dumb enough to confess, I would be totally in favor of it...
I don't necessarily object to using the polygraph ever, in any circumstance...
However the majority of polygraphs are institutional polygraphs from govt, military, CIA, law enforcement, etc...they are given regularly and just like anything employees easily adapt b/c **they are bullshit**
Maybe the solution is to use them only if a person is suspected of a crime?
How they are used now is definitely ridiculous!
yeah i know what you mean...they say his *intent* was to help people evade detection (not necessary to specify type of detection...be it a records search, interview, drug test, etc)
my argument is essentially: how could doing something impossible be illegal? as another poster pointed out since these polygraphs are bullshit, the possibility of false-positive is high and troublesome for any job seeker in this market!
i will have to see the transcripts of the recorded conversations, where he allegedly tried to help a guy pass even though he'd sexually abused a minor, before I consider the prosectutions line of thinking
as it stands, this guy did not disclose any secret or protected information...the info he taught is freely available...i suspect he hooked people up to his own polygraph, but that's not illegal
glad you posted that...I'm a fan of APOD and I remember seeing that but couldn't locate it
either Polygraphs are bullshit or these charges should be dropped...
by setting up the sting and charging the guys for what they did, they government is admitting that it is possible to fool the polygraph
if it is possible to fool the polygraph it leaves no doubt that the polygraph is not scientific or useful
by proving these men guilty, the prosecution simultaneously proves that the lie detector is a farce and negates the logical need for the entire charade in the first place
a good lawyer could get a not guilty verdict IMHO
This is a ridiculous comparison. The data are from two completely different proceedures, from a technical perspective.
Taking a functional government website, like say Astronomy Picture of the Day
To make it 'not work' all they have to do is whip up a basic "this site shutdown due to..." with a few HTML tags and its is "taken down due to the shutdown"
That's all...a few lines of HTML and a redirect!
Second, the criticism of the Obamacare website in the media is not representative of the ***ACTUALL*** technical problems.
Politics aside, the website problems were **routine IT work**...its not an excuse, but **management** is to blame for not scheduling testing with enough time before rollout...
So, this data is doubly unusuable...but it makes sense...
**of course** sites like Astronomy Picture of the Day were up in 24 hrs after the shutdown lifted!!!!! It just took a few lines of code!
I see what you're saying...you know all analogies have areas where you can poke holes...
however its an obvious logical example to support the idea that Americans know, love, and can create conditions for the 'proper' competition I described above
league politics aside, the very nature of sports is to be a pure meritocracy and the fans demand it
to falsify my point, about 10 years ago or so the Japanese Yokozuna Sumo wresting 'big league' was exposed to have been fixing and scripting matches up to the championship for years...
it was a terrible blow to the sport...at the time it was looked at as sort of a pure representation of traditional Japanese culture...a modern continuation of ancient competition...
if that happened in the NFL...if it was revealed to be fixed and scripted like the WWF **all hell would break loose** people would fuckign loose their minds with anger...the concussion cover-up thing would be nothing compared to that!
and that proves my point...Americans know and love pure competition within strict boundaries...the way the NFL regulates the game (with official video review, etc) is a good analogy
I know Pakistan (and probably a good chunk of the countries I mentioned) have nuclear power. IRAN has nuclear power...
In case you missed it, we have severe UN limitations, with controversial high stakes inspections, on the use of...
IAEA
it's about letting the technology flower globally **without** causing more problems...
also, I spent my formative years as a Tennessee redneck so I can talk as much shit about Kentucky rednecks as I want!
we more or less agree on this issue it seems and I'm a self-described 'left-leaning libertarian' & rabid critic of the GOP/"tea party"/conservative/"libertarians"
America knows fair competition. We celebrate it every Sunday w/ things like NFL football. We love absolute raw carnage within certain agreed boundaries that limit the factors of competition towards meritocracy.
We can ensure every market is 'properly' competitive...or at least very close on a continual basis.
You'd probably disagree w/ my comparison of health insurance company's profit model to the RIAA's profit model, but maybe I'm wrong.