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Microsoft Narrows Down CEO Shortlist: Elop, Mulally, Bates, Nadella In Mix

rjmarvin writes "Sources have confirmed that Microsoft has narrowed down its search for its next CEO to five external candidates and at least two internal candidates. Rumored frontrunner Stephen Elop, former Nokia CEO, and Ford Motor CEO Alan Mulally are reportedly in contention, along with Microsoft's Skype head Tony Bates and their cloud and enterprise chief Satya Nadella. The other external candidates who've emerged from the approximately 40 rumored names swirling around since August have not yet been revealed."

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  1. Those that know ... by jamesl · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Those that know aren't talking. And those that are talking don't know.

    Sources. Ha!

    1. Re:Those that know ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      There's no way this goes to anyone but Elop.

      Mulally would be the best pick, which is why it's not going to be him.

    2. Re:Those that know ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bingo! We have a winner.

    3. Re:Those that know ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I think dead Steve Jobs would do a better job than any of those.

    4. Re:Those that know ... by cusco · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Mulally would be the best pick

      Why? The whole Cult Of The CEO revolves around the magical mystical "leadership" aura that supposedly inhabits the specially gifted and turns everything they touch to gold. What a steaming pile of horsepuckey. Saying that Mulally is the best pick because he has succeeded running factories in the past (never mind that most of his success seems to have been lucky timing) is like saying that since my brother knows how to run a remodeling company he would be the best person possible to manage a restaurant chain.

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    5. Re:Those that know ... by 0123456 · · Score: 2

      The whole Cult Of The CEO revolves around the magical mystical "leadership" aura that supposedly inhabits the specially gifted and turns everything they touch to gold.

      If that was true, 'former Nokia CEO' Flop sure as heck wouldn't be in the list.

    6. Re:Those that know ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mulally would be the best pick

      Why?

      Perhaps he won a chair throwing contest?

    7. Re:Those that know ... by timeOday · · Score: 3, Insightful
      I largely share your skepticism, but Microsoft seems almost uniquely positioned to get a lot of value from a real leader, if they can find one. On the one hand, it is a highly profitable company with huge resources and a culture of making large, sustained investments. On the other hand, it seems to have trouble rallying around an uncompromised, clear-minded vision.

      The truth is Microsoft could also make a lot of money for many years yet with nothing at the top but a hard-nosed accountant/administrator. But it could also be much more. I suppose most likely they will get the administrator and pay him like a visionary.

    8. Re:Those that know ... by cusco · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Success has nothing to do with the Leadership Aura effect, Carly Fiorina, Donald Trump and Michael Capellas are all highly sought-after.

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    9. Re:Those that know ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      He's product-focused. Nadella and Bates are service-focused and Elop is a crook.

      I know the current hype is in services right now, but Microsoft needs to get their products right in order to succeed. They've been fucking up Windows for their enterprise customers, and they've recently started snatching defeat from the jaws of victory on Xbox, too. If they screw up Office while they're at it they'll hit the trifecta.

    10. Re:Those that know ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      "Weekend at Ballmer's"?

    11. Re:Those that know ... by Sir_Sri · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Why?

      Because he's not a microsoft technology nerd.

      Microsoft needs someone at the top who uses their products the way someone who isn't surrounded by microsofties every day does. So they can get their shit together on design. Windows 8 is an example of doing a great job executing a terrible idea. That has to stop. Now.

      It also needs someone who recognizes there is a market beyond himself and can support that (this is where Steve jobs always struggled) - car guys get that. This car might not be for me, but there is a market for it.

      It also needs someone with an internal employee evaluation system that is going to actually make supportive of co-workers and that rewards everyone doing great work when they do.

      Ideally microsoft needs someone who can decide what direction to take the company - an open services and software company that supports a large collection of partners, or a device and services company that has no friends. And to decide which of those is best for shareholders they need someone from outside the microsoft bubble.

      Mulally isn't necessarily the best pick - but of the list of known candidates from outside MS he's got a decent track record.

    12. Re:Those that know ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The former implies the latter.

    13. Re:Those that know ... by tnk1 · · Score: 1

      I wholeheartedly agree that the employee rating system needs to be less about competing with your co-workers and more about competing with your actual competitors.

      While there does need to be some accounting for people who are not performing, you don't create a system that tries to find that out at the cost of completely undercutting your own teams.

      I've met people who are shitty at their jobs, but excellent at backstabbing. MS already has too much of that. Hopefully they pick a CEO who changes that, but that will be an uphill battle, to say the least. It's already cultural.

    14. Re:Those that know ... by interkin3tic · · Score: 1

      Why not? Seems to me that CEOs are basically celebrities. They don't directly generate anything that is worth what they are paid. It's their name that gets other people excited and gets the money flowing. Keeping it secret doesn't make a whole lot of sense if the only reason they're considering Elop is to make the stock price go up. "Elop!?! WOW!!! I KNOW THAT NAME, BUY BUY BUY!!! I hear he's already made more money for MS than the outgoing CEO did!!!"

      I mean, it's not like he's good actually leading companies.

      They don't keep it super secret which celebrity actors they've hired for movies for the same reason. They want buzz.

    15. Re:Those that know ... by marcosdumay · · Score: 1

      if they can find one

      They certainly can find one. What's open to question is if they'll accept one.

    16. Re:Those that know ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Elop is the best pick because he is the only one who knows computers.

    17. Re:Those that know ... by Anarchduke · · Score: 1

      To fair to Elop - though i'm not sure i care much about the whole argument - nokia's nosedive in the market looks pretty consistent with ericsson and rim. The only exception to that general trend was apple and samsung, probably because they were the fresh perspective. Boring old cellphones designs along the lines of nokia etc. just weren't wanted. Not that he did a great job, but he did as good a job as many of his competitors did. Not a ringing endorsement of his potential though.

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    18. Re:Those that know ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Meanwhile Ballmer delivered record quarter after record quarter and look how much he's insulted. Or Steve Jobs now that he's dead "Oh, you just built the highest market cap company in the world. But SURELY it had nothing to do with you because I heard you could be an asshole sometimes!"

      Still, it's hard to know how much was the CEO and how much was, anything else unless you're actually there. Anytime something goes right it's management's success and anything going wrong is and industry downturn or something.

    19. Re:Those that know ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Go on then... I'll take the post.

      Im bored working for Oracle anyway :)

    20. Re:Those that know ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      While I don't think a "great" CEO can do that much to make a company succeed, a bad CEO can do a lot to drive a company into the ground real fast.

      At a minimum, Mulally is a competent administrator.

    21. Re:Those that know ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Read the history, Capellas and Fiorina is not the type of "leadership" you want in your company. Go ask anyone who worked and Compaq.

    22. Re:Those that know ... by cusco · · Score: 1

      No Ellison, we don't want you. Go back to your island and fly your Mig around.

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    23. Re:Those that know ... by thoughtlover · · Score: 1

      Why?

      Because he's not a microsoft technology nerd.

      Microsoft needs someone at the top who uses their products the way someone who isn't surrounded by microsofties every day does. So they can get their shit together on design.

      I honestly thought Nathan Myhrvold was on the shortlist; perhaps he was courted, but wanted nothing to do with a (seemingly) sinking ship.

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    24. Re:Those that know ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's too bad they weren't looking 2 years ago, because Marissa Meyer would have been a good choice to head up Microsoft. She would have gotten a profitable company with actual engineering talent and they would have gotten a CEO with actual product sensibilities and a drive to push people to produce cool stuff.

      As it is, her talents are being wasted solving the less interesting problems that Yahoo! focuses on and Microsoft will end up with a paper-pusher with no real vision or talent. On second thought, it's a good thing they weren't looking 2 years ago...a resurgent Microsoft probably wouldn't have been a good thing.

    25. Re:Those that know ... by gnasher719 · · Score: 1

      Why not? Seems to me that CEOs are basically celebrities. They don't directly generate anything that is worth what they are paid. It's their name that gets other people excited and gets the money flowing. Keeping it secret doesn't make a whole lot of sense if the only reason they're considering Elop is to make the stock price go up. "Elop!?! WOW!!! I KNOW THAT NAME, BUY BUY BUY!!! I hear he's already made more money for MS than the outgoing CEO did!!!"

      The CEO sets the direction that the company takes. That's the important thing. The execution may be more or less good, but the important thing is the right direction. Take Windows 8. A beautifully executed step in the wrong direction. It wouldn't have mattered if the result was slightly better or slightly less good, as long as they had created something that the customers actually want and want to pay for.

    26. Re:Those that know ... by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Microsoft is also busy making sure a new leader will have little maneuver room, by making all sorts of company-changing decisions before getting a new CEO. My prediction is that the next CEO will look bad for at least a few years, even if very good.

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    27. Re:Those that know ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      elop's motto: down and out. he can do it.

  2. Is this some kind of Miss World contest? by jkrise · · Score: 3, Interesting

    where the list gets narrowed down daily and the winner is announced after 3 days? In the case of MS, looks like this joke will go on for a year.

    My hunch is that Elop already holds the reins to the ruins; this media contest is just a soapera.

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    1. Re:Is this some kind of Miss World contest? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      First they must be able to pull the chair from the sacred stone, if they can toss it in Google's direction they become CEO

    2. Re:Is this some kind of Miss World contest? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was thinking Bates would've been a shoe-in, if his first name was Phil.

    3. Re:Is this some kind of Miss World contest? by Snotnose · · Score: 2

      The board cloisters themselves in a conference room. When there is no CE0 it's booking terminal shows a BSOD. When there is a CEO the terminal will boot to metro.

    4. Re:Is this some kind of Miss World contest? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      where the list gets narrowed down daily and the winner is announced after 3 days?

      You'd be surprised. Mulally can kill it in the swimsuit competition, and word is Bates' talent of violin playing will really wow the judges.

    5. Re:Is this some kind of Miss World contest? by Iniamyen · · Score: 1

      What about Gil?

    6. Re:Is this some kind of Miss World contest? by Sarten-X · · Score: 2

      Given Microsoft's dictatorial approach to management, he'll just be referred to as "Master", anyway.

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    7. Re:Is this some kind of Miss World contest? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Given Microsoft's dictatorial approach to management, he'll just be referred to as "Master", anyway.

      So it is John Saxxon then?

    8. Re:Is this some kind of Miss World contest? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Elop is da masta. He's a really nice guy and knows business and computers very well. He is better than Bill Gates and Steve Jobs.

  3. Elop needs to broker a deal with Apple by CodeReign · · Score: 2

    Elop needs to broker a deal with Apple to bring down the MS share prices enough to be bought out.

    1. Re:Elop needs to broker a deal with Apple by binarylarry · · Score: 0, Troll

      Apple wouldn't touch shitty Microsoft tech with a 10 foot iPole.

      Patents, maybe.

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    2. Re:Elop needs to broker a deal with Apple by gl4ss · · Score: 2

      I posted about this before, but if Elop gets put on charge then MS gets sold to Oracle in 3 years : BECAUSE CLOUD!

      if you look at the stats then ms os stats on devices are going down(due to mobile phones) so it would make perfect sense to announce it as a burning platform(if you totally forget year on year income etc, which he did or rather ignored on purpose before) and that they're going all cloud on everything and........ yeah.

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    3. Re:Elop needs to broker a deal with Apple by h4rr4r · · Score: 4, Interesting

      He did that for a reason. He was trying to promote WinPhone at all costs. Nokia was an acceptable loss. He has no interest in risking Microsoft. That is his team.

    4. Re:Elop needs to broker a deal with Apple by RaceProUK · · Score: 3, Funny

      This would be the same Apple that uses Windows Azure?

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    5. Re:Elop needs to broker a deal with Apple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If Elop gets the job, someone needs to start criminal investigation into his work at Nokia. There's no way Microsoft should hire him as their CEO after he ran Nokia into the ground.

    6. Re:Elop needs to broker a deal with Apple by binarylarry · · Score: 0

      I doubt they're using any Microsoft tech inside their environment.

      I'd be willing to bet their entire cloud infrastructure is either Linux, OS X, some BSD flavor or a combination thereof.

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    7. Re:Elop needs to broker a deal with Apple by pr0fessor · · Score: 1

      How many commercial consumer desktops would that leave? I don't know sounds like a bad idea....

      With Win 8 and it's not so good reception what are we going to be doing in 5 yrs? Who knows, it's up in the air... Will Apple take over the business desktop, will MS pull it out of the toilet, or will super cheap super small ARM Android workstations sucker punch everyone {I say sucker punch because I don't think it is very likely but then again I also thought the CD was a stupid idea}.

    8. Re:Elop needs to broker a deal with Apple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    9. Re:Elop needs to broker a deal with Apple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Apple wouldn't touch shitty Microsoft tech with a 10 foot iPole.

      I'm relatively technology agnostic, but I can tell you this: the stuff that gets developed in-house at Microsoft Research blows anything Apple has ever produced out of the water. That is no joke.

      Why none of these inventions ever see the light of day, I have no idea. I think that Ballmer's biggest failing has been not turning Microsoft Research prototypes into real products.

    10. Re:Elop needs to broker a deal with Apple by RaceProUK · · Score: 1
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    11. Re:Elop needs to broker a deal with Apple by lgw · · Score: 2

      Microsoft owns the "business desktop" for as long as it will continue to exist - eventually the concept will fade, replaced by BYOD and thin clients talking to cloud apps. Sure, that will take a decade at least, but no one big enough to matter is going to enter an obviously fading market.

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    12. Re:Elop needs to broker a deal with Apple by binarylarry · · Score: 0

      And... you obviously don't understand how cloud hosting environments work.

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    13. Re: Elop needs to broker a deal with Apple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Register reported a rumor that iCloud ran on Azure. This is not the same thing as, iCloud runs on Azure. As far as I am aware, this rumor was never confirmed and has been largely forgotten except by Microsoft Reputation Managers on Internet forums.

    14. Re:Elop needs to broker a deal with Apple by ppanon · · Score: 2

      You would think there would at least be grounds for a Nokia shareholder and employee class action lawsuit.

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    15. Re:Elop needs to broker a deal with Apple by RaceProUK · · Score: 1

      And... you're obviously trolling.

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    16. Re:Elop needs to broker a deal with Apple by marcosdumay · · Score: 1

      If he does not get the job, somebody nees to start a criminal investigation of his work at Nokia too.

    17. Re:Elop needs to broker a deal with Apple by pr0fessor · · Score: 1

      BYOD not so sure... Some places it might be alright but Imagine a large business with tens of thousands of underpaid non-technical customer service/sales types using a random bunch of devices they are responsible to maintain and secure.

    18. Re:Elop needs to broker a deal with Apple by lgw · · Score: 1

      If it matters whether endpoint devices are "secure" you're doing BYOD completely wrong. You never let the endpoints have a file, or anything else of value that could be harvested if the device were stolen. You want them as stateless at the thin clients.

      As for maintain, that's just like the car you use to get to work: your problem. That's why businesses love BYOD - it pushes the most equipment concerns off of support and on to the employee.

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    19. Re:Elop needs to broker a deal with Apple by pr0fessor · · Score: 1

      You are correct in endpoints not storing anything, but if the endpoint is not secure it can experience downtime which == loss.

      The real question is how much loss sometimes it just costs less to supply the device. {I've worked placed where they measured profits in staff per 15 minute interval}

    20. Re:Elop needs to broker a deal with Apple by lgw · · Score: 1

      The best wins I've personally seen are in hardware support for remote employees. Moving a hardware issue from "a tech will come visit you" to "we've fedexd you a new one" was an amazing difference, but that was thin clients not BYOD. Cost of device wasn't directly a good measure (it costs a lot for a good remote desktop management solution), but "cheap enough to stop trying to repair" was what mattered.

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    21. Re:Elop needs to broker a deal with Apple by pr0fessor · · Score: 1

      We have remote users some are BYOD.

      Occasionally some {clueless} middle manager asks if I can go to a users home {usually 800 miles away} sure that requires air travel, car rental, and hotel but if you really want to help them out since it's their laptop they could just take it to best buy and you can reimburse them.

    22. Re:Elop needs to broker a deal with Apple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you have two brothers named Darryl?

  4. Slashdot is cheering for,,,, by balaband · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...that guy that drives companies into ground.

    1. Re:Slashdot is cheering for,,,, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Nah, we're sad that Ballmers fail train is leaving the station.

    2. Re:Slashdot is cheering for,,,, by zitsky · · Score: 1

      I have to agree with you. We could argue about him all day, whether he was successful or not. All you need to know if who was CEO when Nokia tanked. Last time I looked that person was Elop. And now they want to bring him to Microsoft?

    3. Re:Slashdot is cheering for,,,, by h4rr4r · · Score: 2

      Ballmer is leaving, did you not know that?

      Elop would not surprise me after the hit job he did on Nokia.

    4. Re:Slashdot is cheering for,,,, by disposable60 · · Score: 3, Funny

      They might as well be looking at Carly Fiorina, then.

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    5. Re:Slashdot is cheering for,,,, by neurovish · · Score: 1

      ...that guy that drives companies into ground.

      Elop? Nokia was already in a nosedive when he started. If anything, he just guided them to a softer crash into a fluffy Microsoft pillow. Before that, the article says he ran MS's business software unit, which is one of the massively profitable divisions. Microsoft doesn't really need a "turnaround", just a focusing of efforts.

    6. Re:Slashdot is cheering for,,,, by h4rr4r · · Score: 2

      What?
      He osborned the company while it was still profitable. He put out the N900 and let it flounder even when it outsold the windows phones.

      He refused to even consider android, when it would have been possible to make their Linux Phones compatible with it.

    7. Re:Slashdot is cheering for,,,, by Kjella · · Score: 5, Informative

      Elop? Nokia was already in a nosedive when he started. If anything, he just guided them to a softer crash into a fluffy Microsoft pillow.

      They say a picture is worth a thousand words so here. They had ten stable quarters with >6 billion in revenue and >500 million euro profit, the Windows Phone deal is announced and boom they go from a 750 million euro profit to a 200 million euro loss and their sales have been in free fall ever since. Yes they needed a revitalization in the smart phone market where Apple and Google were kicking their ass, but they had sales and profits to fix that. Until Elop issued his "burning platform" memo and announced an all-out switch to Microsoft, that is. If Microsoft hires him it's nothing but kickback for burning Nokia to the ground to promote Windows Phone.

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    8. Re:Slashdot is cheering for,,,, by alexander_686 · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Past success or failure is a poor indicator of future performance for a CEO.

      Whatever challenges the CEO overcame in the past are not likely to be the challenge of the future. A new company in a new year means a whole new ball game.

      As for failures, I can point to some very successful CEOs (including Steve Jobs) where they learned from their failures. For Elop you also needed to know that Nokia was a sinking ship. It would have taken somebody extraordinary to turn Nokia around.

      As a side note Alan Mulally is an interesting name. Most people figured a Boeing manager could not turn around a car company around but he did.

    9. Re:Slashdot is cheering for,,,, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, either he is incompetent and caused Nokia to fail. So Microsoft would get an incompetent CEO.

      Or he is a crook (which I find a lot more likely) and made sure Nokia was to fail. And Microsoft gets the CEO they want.

      In any case Elop is a celebrity CEO because he killed Nokia. Hiring a celebrity CEO is good for short term stock prices. That is why so many CEOs get hired after proofing time and time again that they would kill companies.

    10. Re:Slashdot is cheering for,,,, by Kingkaid · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Nokia was tanking long before Elop, it just became much more visible during his reign. And look at what he actually accomplished. Pre-Elop Nokia had ALL divisions losing money. He has now left, and the mapping division is in the black. Their network infrastructure is in the black. Nokia could not make a good run with the phone and device portion, which he was able to sell, giving Nokia enough cash to pay off many restructuring debts. That is actually not a bad record.

    11. Re:Slashdot is cheering for,,,, by donscarletti · · Score: 2

      Past success or failure is a poor indicator of future performance for a CEO.

      That's something that incapable senior managers say when looking for a new company to ruin.

      Something I've learned is if you have a new CEO that sucked in his last job, find a new job right away, while the company still looks like it means something on your resume.

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    12. Re:Slashdot is cheering for,,,, by Kingkaid · · Score: 1

      The picture is worth 1000 words, but make sure you have the right data on the picture. Nokia was making money hand over first, and there is a large dip in 2009, and it was trending down for 2 years beforehand. Know why? Well Apple came out with something called the iphone. Suddenly anything Nokia had paled by comparison. The point is that Nokia was dying before Elop came to power. I've read the public board minutes when they were busy picking a new CEO, they knew they were in trouble. They picked Elop since he had a history of turning companies around (you can argue through questionable means), and he was a software guy - and Nokia until then was a hardware company that didn't get software (or at least that is how the board saw it). Turning Nokia around, or any large company, is not easy. It does take time. The sales and money Nokia had were from their legacy products, where Nokia was the market leader. That legacy has become less important over time as the smartphone market has matured. Could Nokia have made their own way with MeeGo? Maybe. I would present Blackberry and WebOS as evidence that the market would have not supported this system. Could Nokia have gone with android? Yes - but there is no way they could have maintained the fat margins they had with their dumbphones with all the competition. That would have driven sales up and operating revenues down (same situation as presented). And even going android was no guarantee, little HTC has been nearly destroyed in its battle.

    13. Re:Slashdot is cheering for,,,, by timeOday · · Score: 1

      They had ten stable quarters with >6 billion in revenue and >500 million euro profit, the Windows Phone deal is announced and boom they go from a 750 million euro profit to a 200 million euro loss and their sales have been in free fall ever since.

      It's hard to determine causality, though, because human beings try look into the future and "react" to imminent calamities that haven't happened yet. Sometimes not-so-successfully.

    14. Re:Slashdot is cheering for,,,, by alexander_686 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Mod parent up – and here is my 2 cents.

      In a market that is exploding having consistent revenue and profits is not a good thing. It means you are being left behind.

      If you are a company whose products are drifting away from the high-end high-margin end of the market to the low-end low-margin is a troubling sign. It could mean you company is heading towards irrelevance.

      Nokia was heading the wrong direction and a big change was needed. Either Nokia was too far gone or Elop was not up to the job – probably a bit of both.

    15. Re:Slashdot is cheering for,,,, by kirkb · · Score: 3, Informative
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    16. Re:Slashdot is cheering for,,,, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Please don't spread that myth. This is clearly not true and the numbers are public. The smartphone devision was highly profitable exactly up when the switch to Winodws Phone was declared and Symbian was deprecated. Symbian sales instantly collapsed and Windows Phone never (up to now) got sales even remotely close to that Symbian smatphones had at this point (30 million per quater - Lumia now: 8 million). Nokia was overall a healthy company with losts of cash before Elop and it is close to bankruptcy now.

    17. Re:Slashdot is cheering for,,,, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Eh, where did you read that crap you are spreading? Nokia was losing ground (and would lose more if they did not get Maemo/Meego out fast), but they were not in a dire situation. That happened the instant Symbian was declared dead and everybody fled.

    18. Re:Slashdot is cheering for,,,, by marcosdumay · · Score: 1

      To take over Microsoft? Hell yes!

    19. Re:Slashdot is cheering for,,,, by Anarchduke · · Score: 1

      Nokia was far from tanking before Elop took over. True its networking and mapping units were not performing well, but its phone unit was increasing faster than any other company, including Apple. The change in profitability and market share for Nokia's smartphone unit was dramatic and recordsetting in its loss. Then, of course, Elop got a 25 million dollar bonus for selling off the now wrecked smartphone unit off to Microsoft.
      I don't know why any company would want Elop near the reigns ever again.
      http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2013/09/now-we-know-why-nokias-elop-had-a-25m-personal-bonus-clause-from-the-nokia-board-if-he-was-able-to-s.html

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    20. Re:Slashdot is cheering for,,,, by Anarchduke · · Score: 1
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    21. Re:Slashdot is cheering for,,,, by Anarchduke · · Score: 3, Insightful

      But apple and google were not kicking their ass. The truth is that until Elop took over, Nokia's smartphone division not only had more marketshare, it was growing faster than either Apple or Android. Elop destroyed that http://seekingalpha.com/article/916271-how-stephen-elop-destroyed-nokia

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    22. Re:Slashdot is cheering for,,,, by Anarchduke · · Score: 1

      They didn't have consistent revenue, their smartphone unit was increasing both marketshare and revenue at a greater rate than either apple or android. Until Elop decided to release his "Burning Platforms" memo and trashed the company. http://seekingalpha.com/article/916271-how-stephen-elop-destroyed-nokia

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    23. Re:Slashdot is cheering for,,,, by alexander_686 · · Score: 1

      Emotionally I know where you are coming from. I am still bitter that Apple’s Mac beat the technically superior Amiga 2000. But there does come a tipping point when the tide of history is against you.

      You need to pick under the numbers a little bit. In developed markets (Europe, USA, etc.) Nokia was going down market – being displaced by Apple and Android phones. We could enter into the argument about the difference between up market phones vs. smart phones and why people like buying apps. But Nokia was losing the head to head battle with Apple, et. al.

      Most of the increase in market share in smart phones was coming from 2nd tier markets which Nokia had all to itself. The 2nd tiered markets were running about 5 years behind the 1st tiered networks. Which means that Nokia would be facing the same problems in 5 years when the networks and customers upgraded.

      Which brings me back to my old loved Amiga. Mac had the users so it got software written for it which increased the sales of Mac which increased the demand for software. A virtuous cycle. Once that started the Amiga was doomed.

      Which brings up to apps. Apple and Android have tons. Nokia had a choice.

      It could continue rolling out Symbian OS. That might have been the right answer but it is not clear it would have worked. HP Palm and BlackBerry tried their own proprietary OS and failed.

      Or they could have adopted Android but there are dozens of competitors in that space. When HTC had the hot phone it shot up. When HTC didn’t have the hot phone it plunged like a rock.

      Or they could enter a less competitive field like Windows. Which of course failed but then again hindsight is 20/20.

    24. Re:Slashdot is cheering for,,,, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      he quadroupled the share price since i bought some.

    25. Re:Slashdot is cheering for,,,, by Imbrondir · · Score: 1

      That situation can also just mean regression to the mean. Nokia had a higher market share then both number 2 and 3 put together before the "burning platform" was sunk in a sea of gasoline. Over time performance in nature generally trends towards the average, which for exceptional players is of course towards the worse.

    26. Re:Slashdot is cheering for,,,, by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      There's long-winded badly-structured waffle.

      And then there's that.

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  5. A day late and a dollar short by korbulon · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Like naming a new captain to the Titanic after it hit the iceberg.

    1. Re:A day late and a dollar short by WWJohnBrowningDo · · Score: 4, Funny

      That's a terrible metaphor. Microsoft is not sinking; Microsoft is soaring!

      If anything, it's like naming a new captain to the Hindenburg after it caught fire.

      Original credits goes to Colbert.

    2. Re:A day late and a dollar short by UneducatedSixpack · · Score: 0

      In that case Microsoft is Titanic that keeps hitting golden icebergs. Just look at their last quarter results.

  6. What, John Sculley not available? by Kevoco · · Score: 1

    He did so much for Apple, after all!

    1. Re:What, John Sculley not available? by khr · · Score: 1

      He did so much for Apple, after all!

      Yeah, but can he handle changing the world, or just sugar water sales?

    2. Re:What, John Sculley not available? by alexander_686 · · Score: 1

      BlackBerry.

      He was looking at BlackBerry. I am serious. He was one of the guys who was looking to buy the company when it was still on the market.

      Oddly enough I think Scully did a decent job. Apple was in a bad spot and kept the company going. Of course when compared to the brilliant bet the company move that Steve Jobs did he comes off poorly.

  7. another candidate by dawnsnow · · Score: 1

    MS should include Scott Forstall to the candidate list

    1. Re:another candidate by drfred79 · · Score: 2

      John McAfee

    2. Re:another candidate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Holy mother of L O L !!

    3. Re:another candidate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Woz

  8. No AC for CEO? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So "Anonymous Coward" isn't on the list?
    This is their passive-aggressive way of letting me know that I'm not good enough for them.

  9. Shocked That Elop is the Front Runner by macromorgan · · Score: 5, Informative

    Given what Alan Mulally had done for Ford as CEO and Boeing as a senior VP, I'm shocked he's not the front runner. He helped lead Boeing's resurgence against increased competition from Airbus, and then made Ford the strongest of the big three automakers and the only one able to weather the storm of the Great Recession. It would seem only fitting that he would be picked to lead Microsoft as it attempts to reinvent itself against growing competition.

    1. Re:Shocked That Elop is the Front Runner by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      You make it look like they are selected on competence ...

    2. Re:Shocked That Elop is the Front Runner by cusco · · Score: 1, Insightful

      So someone who knows how to manufacture physical products automagically knows how to make software? Is this part of the powers of the Holy Snake Oil that MBAs are anointed with upon graduation?

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    3. Re:Shocked That Elop is the Front Runner by Kingkaid · · Score: 2

      So someone who knows how to manufacture physical products automagically knows how to make software? Is this part of the powers of the Holy Snake Oil that MBAs are anointed with upon graduation?

      You obviously don't know what an MBA teaches. Microsoft is trying to become a physical product company (along with services), so Alan Mulally is a very good choice. You don't need to know how to make something to manage the people that actually make it. You cannot be too arrogant and not listen to them, but if tempered it can work out better. If /. is correct, M$ needs a major change in leadership in order to become successful again.

    4. Re:Shocked That Elop is the Front Runner by geekoid · · Score: 1

      I doubt he would be any good. The skills needed to lead a manufacturing company are completely. different then a software company, and visa versa.

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    5. Re:Shocked That Elop is the Front Runner by djbckr · · Score: 1

      It seems a bit premature to dismiss him out-of-hand just because he hasn't led a software company. Yes, I know it's different, but his successes are better than anybody else on the list. Now, saying that, I don't know his leadership style. But if he's a good leader, he'll surround himself with people that know what they are doing and that have mutual trust between Mulally and those he surrounds himself with. That's (one of) the recipes for success.

    6. Re:Shocked That Elop is the Front Runner by cusco · · Score: 1

      Microsoft has made keyboards, mice, and other products for years, in addition to printing and distributing their software since the beginning. Physical products aren't new to MS.

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    7. Re:Shocked That Elop is the Front Runner by Kingkaid · · Score: 2

      Microsoft has made keyboards, mice, and other products for years, in addition to printing and distributing their software since the beginning. Physical products aren't new to MS.

      You're right! That is why they were so successful with the Kin. No wait... Oh there is the Zune... crap. Surface RT? .... Ah the Xbox! Yes that made it, although the first one was run entirely in the red and cost billions to gain the market share it has. So yes, they do have experience in marketing some types of physical products, but the integrated hardware/software ones appear to be not their strong suit. Also note the examples you gave, they were physical products that supported the software they sold. That does make for a large difference.

    8. Re:Shocked That Elop is the Front Runner by 0123456 · · Score: 0

      You obviously don't know what an MBA teaches.

      How to destroy companies while collecting fat stock options?

      That's mostly what the products of the MBA programs seem to do.

    9. Re:Shocked That Elop is the Front Runner by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At least Mullaly is also an engineer.

    10. Re:Shocked That Elop is the Front Runner by lgw · · Score: 2

      Boeing is a research company first, doing "real engineering". Fords success came from introducing new models and features - perhaps not very geeky R&D, but still new engineering.

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    11. Re:Shocked That Elop is the Front Runner by ppanon · · Score: 1

      Airliner avionics aren't exactly simple software. They're a mission-critical integral part of modern airliners.

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    12. Re:Shocked That Elop is the Front Runner by Anarchduke · · Score: 1

      Yes, but at least his company wasn't completely trashed when he left it. That kind of puts him way higher than Elop in my estimation.

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    13. Re:Shocked That Elop is the Front Runner by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Leader?!

      When someone says I am qualified because i have a degree in management RUN! Mangement specialized in accounting and finance would be a terrible IT manager. They specialize because their job requires them to know requirements, customers, and uh the shit they sell better than anyone else!

      You can't have visions and daydream all day like most CEO if you do not know what your company does or what their customers need, and most importantly how to get there.

      Most people can manage fine. Therefore everyone is a CEO right? Sorry, but Warren Buffet is right. Pick an industry you know well when you invest in it. Both time and money. He doesn't bother with companies he is not too familiar with.

  10. Whow. Really? Kewl. by ImOuttaHere · · Score: 1

    Hey. Would ya look at that? Nutella is in the mix! Tasty stuff, that. And I'll bet it'd be a LOT more intelligent at running uSoft than the other names on the short list.

  11. PLEASE ELOP!!! by drfred79 · · Score: 1

    I certainly want Elop in charge. It will bolster Linux development immensely.

    1. Re:PLEASE ELOP!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      go for Marissa, she is one hot CEO!!

  12. NONE OF THE ABOVE by PortHaven · · Score: 3, Interesting

    So the choices are

    a) Nokia - a tech giant that went on major decline, so select their CEO to fix your major decline. Ya ...

    b) Former Ford CEO - hey at least Ford has been doing well. But does this guy know a wheel from a mouse?

    c) Skype - hey at least they got someone to buy them for a lot of $$$

    One choice that was touted at one point was to have have Microsoft buy Netflix and make Reed Hastings CEO. While I think he'd do well as CEO. I'd hate that for Netflix.

    1. Re:NONE OF THE ABOVE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What, you don't want your NetFlix box to run the latest SilverLight and ActiveX secure movie watching DRM transfer plugins??

    2. Re:NONE OF THE ABOVE by danomac · · Score: 1

      But does this guy know a wheel from a mouse?

      Well, I would hope so. One is round.

    3. Re:NONE OF THE ABOVE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      >Former Ford CEO - hey at least Ford has been doing well. But does this guy know a wheel from a mouse?

      Well, let's see:

      Mulally was hired by Boeing immediately out of college in 1969 as an engineer. He held a number of engineering and program management positions, making contributions to the Boeing 727, 737, 747, 757, 767 and 777 projects. He led the cockpit design team on the 757/767 project. Its revolutionary design featured the first all-digital flight deck in a commercial aircraft,...

      Yeah, probably.

    4. Re:NONE OF THE ABOVE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Haven't you noticed? Mice have wheels now.

  13. 'internal' hire by globaljustin · · Score: 2, Insightful

    There's no way this goes to anyone but Elop.

    yup...agree...

    Elop is listed as an 'outside' candidate, but he was essentially a mole for M$ for his whole debacle at Nokia. He went in, ran that company into the ground...now he gets his reward.

    Watching M$ die its weird death is sort of like the scene in Blade Runner when Pris is killed and does that awesome android freak out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9t5ikxjAQ4

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    1. Re:'internal' hire by JeffAtl · · Score: 1

      Like tears in the rain...

    2. Re:'internal' hire by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It would be sort of like Jobs taking over Apple after Apple bought NeXT....but without being one of the original founders.

    3. Re:'internal' hire by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They weren't androids, stupid. They were genetically engineered clones. Androids are robots that look human, not real organic beings.

    4. Re:'internal' hire by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Elop is listed as an 'outside' candidate, but he was essentially a mole for M$ for his whole debacle at Nokia. He went in, ran that company into the ground...now he gets his reward.

      Indeed, however, apparently the folks who choose CEOs still seem to think Elop is a good CEO choice. I really wonder why people think Elop is a good choice, given his track record, but people who know do seem to point to him. Elop would likely be MS's karma coming back to them, looking at all the unethical things they've done, they really deserve Elop. I suppose I've got a mild fear his leadership style might just work well at MS (which would show us how badly screwed up MS's management is).

    5. Re:'internal' hire by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      Watching M$ die its weird death is sort of like the scene in Blade Runner when Pris is killed and does that awesome android freak out

      Death spiral? He's not dead yet. Your comment reminds me of the Holy Grail of Death:

      CART MASTER: Bring out your dead!

      CUSTOMER: Here's one.

      CART MASTER: Nine pence.

      DEAD PERSON: I'm not dead!

      CART MASTER: What?

      CUSTOMER: Nothing. Here's your nine pence.

      DEAD PERSON: I'm not dead!

      CART MASTER: 'Ere. He says he's not dead!

      CUSTOMER: Yes, he is.

      DEAD PERSON: I'm not!

      CART MASTER: He isn't?

      CUSTOMER: Well, he will be soon. He's very ill.

      DEAD PERSON: I'm getting better!

      CUSTOMER: No, you're not. You'll be stone dead in a moment.

      CART MASTER: Oh, I can't take him like that. It's against regulations.

      DEAD PERSON: I don't want to go on the cart!

      CUSTOMER: Oh, don't be such a baby.

      CART MASTER: I can't take him.

      DEAD PERSON: I feel fine!

      CUSTOMER: Well, do us a favor.

      CART MASTER: I can't.

      CUSTOMER: Well, can you hang around a couple of minutes? He won't be long.

      CART MASTER: No, I've got to go to the Robinsons'. They've lost nine today.

      CUSTOMER: Well, when's your next round?

      CART MASTER: Thursday.

      DEAD PERSON: I think I'll go for a walk.

      CUSTOMER: You're not fooling anyone, you know. Look. Isn't there something you can do?

      DEAD PERSON: [singing] I feel happy. I feel happy.

      [whop]

      CUSTOMER: Ah, thanks very much.

      CART MASTER: Not at all. See you on Thursday.

      CUSTOMER: Right. All right.

    6. Re:'internal' hire by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      I would suggest Gabe Newell but I don't actually want Microsoft to be saved.

  14. Bates by GameMaster · · Score: 1

    I'm not really familiar with any of these people, but did they really just add the Bates person to the list because their last name sounds like Gates?

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    1. Re:Bates by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      His first name is Gill, if you're wondering.

    2. Re:Bates by Anarchduke · · Score: 1

      Maybe, but I've heard he's a wiz in the hotel industry.

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  15. recruiting a Captain for the Titanic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Microsoft is over- the Wintel alliance is going the way of the CP/M and Z80 team that ruled before it. Betas have the hardest time understanding that NOTHING lasts forever, regardless of its apparent success during their lifetimes.

    Could MS be turned round in theory and made relevant for the emerging phase in computing? Obviously yes, but more obviously the 'in theory' has the deepest meaning, for when great companies die, they always have greater riches/resources than the new-comers that are going to replace them.

    The Internet revolution came closest to wiping out Microsoft before- Microsoft actually bet the farm on 'interactive media on optical disk'- ie., CDROM. Very few of you reading this will believe me, or even conceive what it would mean for a company to back CDROM, rather that the Internet. The very concept seems nonsensical from our current POV. But at the highest level, Microsoft dismissed the Internet as a total non-starter, and claimed that the "extraordinary storage" of optical disks would change the experience of every domestic and business PC user.

    Of course, we now know that years later, MS saw the light, and through their weight behind the Internet, buying the rights to the best browser technology of the time, and crafting the best browser for the next period. However, MS clearly missed the boat, and never recovered a leading position online.

    Today, Microsoft faces an impossible situation. Everything it makes money from can be provided for free from other sources. The Wintel alliance is now toxic, as one-trick pony Intel discovers that having only one business success, the effective x86 monopoly, is good only as long as the world is willing to pay Intel sickeningly obscene amounts of cash for its increasingly mediocre products. ARM is remorseless replacing x86 (just as x86 remorselessly replaced the Z80, 60000 family, MIPS and PowerPC), and to add insult to injury, AMD has just gained the ENTIRE x86 business in the new consoles from Sony and Microsoft.

    Microsoft's new console should be the CHEAPEST this Xmas, but is by far the most expensive, having focused exclusively on providing the NSA with the most advanced spying tools in the homes of ordinary Americans. Microsoft's tablets should have been priced to go from the off, but are the most expensive in the market, and have zero popularity. Microsoft's RT operating system (the dreadful 'NEW-UI' replacement for the crap they used to put on PDAs and phones) should be FREE, but actually sells (to OEMs) for MORE than the cost of the cheapest variety of full-blown Windows 8.

    But fixing mistakes like these, and hundreds of others that Microsoft is now making every year, will not fix the mid-to-long term prospects for Microsoft. Microsoft and Intel's time is over. Their run has been FAR longer than either deserved, and is a consequence of the (up to now) hopeless competition. But it was inevitable that the incompetence and disarray of the vastly better positioned emerging players would not last forever.

    The whole world, domestic and corporate, wants a free Linux-based replacement for Windows. The first company that bashes Linux into a shape at least as complete/useful as Windows XP will have an unstoppable success, and at this time we assume such a product will be Android for Desktops (Android with a standard multi-windows shell/UI/API/environment). The cost of computing is falling (at last), and the future CANNOT provide the margins that are the essential food for companies structured like Microsoft and Intel to survive on.

    The cost of sufficient CPU performance is approaching free (Microsoft and Intel need this figure to be >80 dollars on average). While many of you here are far too stupid to believe in 'free', 2D-graphics and sound went the same route to 'free' in the near(ish) past, wiping out all the mainstream corporations that made their money from providing these solutions in your computers. Likewise, the cost of sufficient GPU performance (for desktop and casual gaming) is also approaching free. The

    1. Re:recruiting a Captain for the Titanic by Voyager529 · · Score: 2

      Let's count the issues here...

      1.) Microsoft backing CD-ROM at the time isn't as horrifying at it might seem. If they were backing CD-ROM in 2013, yes, that's dumb. In 1992 though, when 28.8kbps was considered "pretty quick" for a home user, there was no way that a browser-based Encarta would have been a good thing. Steam couldn't have gained any meaningful traction in a dial-up world, and anyone who would want to go online to write a book report for school would have been laughed out of the room in 1992. Proliferant broadband makes backing optical media a bad idea today, but check out some of the software that Microsoft made in 1992 - CD-ROM was the only way to do it.

      2.) Microsoft "missed the boat" with search because they started out following the "Yahoo Model" instead of the "Google Model". Each had good points and bad points, but they tried selling a landing page to customers that wanted more advanced and powerful search parameters, and assumed that people would search in computer-friendly ways, rather than adapting their computers to searching in people-friendly ways. Bing is still pretty good for pop culture searches, but pathetic at searching even Microsoft's own knowledge base for Windows and Office errors. Depending on what you're looking for, this might be an acceptable tradeoff.

      3.) If you're referring to freely available operating systems, office suites, and server software, you're half-right. An alternative OS is free. An alternative OS that runs Serato or AutoCAD or ProTools or Photoshop is not. An alternative office suite is free. An alternative office suite that supports any one of the dozens of very-expensive, business-running plug-ins like F9 or Crystal Reports is not. Server software is free. Server software that runs Exchange is not. "Free" is great where it can be great, but "free" can also be "incredibly expensive" as well.

      4.) Xbox does indeed worry me with regards to its ability to spy. I wonder if some sort of simple mechanism that gives a physical on/off switch to an ethernet port will catch on...

      5.) I have been hoping that ReactOS would gain solid traction for some time; in my opinion it's the thing that has the most possibility of actually dethroning Windows, because it's intended to be a drop-in replacement for Windows itself, using the same drivers and software models, for better or worse. However, their inability to get out of the "alpha" stage (something I'll certainly blame Microsoft for making difficult) means that the title giving Microsoft an honest run for their money is still a long way's off. Additionally, what Microsoft has going for them is a whole lot of people with a whole lot of procedural memory. People who understand the concepts of word processing have a minimal learning curve going between Microsoft Word and WordPerfect and LibreOffice Writer and Abiword. People who "know Word" will never switch. The OSS groups have diametrically opposed objectives here: the more they look like Office, the more flack they get from existing users who "would have used Word if they wanted Word", while the more uniquely designed the program is, the greater learning curve from users who only know to "click the blue 'W'".

      6.) "Fast enough" processing seems to creep up more quickly than most people seem to realize. Anyone here want to give their mom a P4 with 512MB of RAM for a main desktop? A few might, using Puppy Linux or similar, but for the most part, single-core processors aren't powerful enough for things anymore. For most people, Flash is indeed the most CPU intensive application their computer realizes, but even casual users will notice choppiness on Candy Crush Saga. "Good Enough Audio" is effectively free now and offboard audio interfaces are indeed a niche space, but that was one of the first problems solved with desktop computing; "good enough audio" easily existed in 1994; the only place left for it to go was miniaturized and priced to nothingness; audio playback processing has been minimally processor intensive for decades. GPU performance st

    2. Re:recruiting a Captain for the Titanic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You make too much sense to be posting on /. ;)

    3. Re:recruiting a Captain for the Titanic by marcosdumay · · Score: 1

      1) MS made a bet. For several reasons, it was an stupid bet, but those several reasons weren't completely obvious by the time, although they were evident to several people. It was a nearly perfect paralell to Windows 8.

      2) MS missed the boat on search because they weren't even in the game when the boat sailed. After they missed the boat, they tried to mimic a failling company (Yahoo), and when they couldn't, they tried to mimic the leader.

    4. Re:recruiting a Captain for the Titanic by Xest · · Score: 1

      "4.) Xbox does indeed worry me with regards to its ability to spy. I wonder if some sort of simple mechanism that gives a physical on/off switch to an ethernet port will catch on..."

      This meme is already dead. Microsoft have now changed their minds so you can use Kinect in a variety of modes - always on, IR blaster mode which is used to send IR signals to your TV, turned off, or just outright unplugged. In other words, Kinect is no longer mandatory.

      Besides, a video stream is no small amount of data, if Microsoft ever were going to spy on people with Kinect then you'd notice the data passing through your router so it was a nonsense conspiracy theory from the get go anyway.

      More likely the Skype/Microsoft deal is a bigger concern for those worried about the NSA, they'd be able to farm far more data from a Skype backdoor than they would a bunch of gamers sat on their arse in front of their XBox.

      But now you can outright unplug the thing and still have the console function Kinect is a non-issue.

    5. Re:recruiting a Captain for the Titanic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With a 7 digit ID too.

  16. Only Elop could replace Ballmer by GameboyRMH · · Score: 2

    He's the only worse CEO, and the only one nearly crappy enough.

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  17. Are all these fanboys for real? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Microsoft rules the business software world. Microsoft will continue to do the one thing they have done well since inception. Compete. They will continue to compete with every other software and now hardware vendor out there. The product lines are diverse and much larger than any other technology company. Any suggestion that Microsoft will be swallowed by some other entity are absolutely ridiculous. Competition with everyone else in the market will always make Microsoft a viable entity in business at least until developers stop showing up on their doorstep.

    1. Re:Are all these fanboys for real? by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      "Microsoft rules the business software world. "

      Pipe dream.... Oracle and others rule the business software world. Microsoft has only two inroads, OS and the office suite. Everything else they sell is 3rd bananana or worse.

      The important parts of a business, the parts that make money or handle the money have NOTHING to do with microsoft products.

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    2. Re:Are all these fanboys for real? by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      Microsoft rules the business software world.

      I believe they said something similar about RIM back in 2009. Where are they now?

      Microsoft will continue to do the one thing they have done well since inception. Compete.

      MS has tried to compete but their success has been limited outside Windows and Office. Even products like Xbox and Bing which has some success are not financially successful.

      They will continue to compete with every other software and now hardware vendor out there. The product lines are diverse and much larger than any other technology company.

      And that's a problem. They have been fighting a multi-front war and losing on most of them.

      Competition with everyone else in the market will always make Microsoft a viable entity in business at least until developers stop showing up on their doorstep.

      Some would call that a lack of focus. Looking at their development platforms, how many have MS promoted and abandoned in the last several years. Developers are not eager to continue doing so. Win 8 has not helped the situation. They are not flocking in droves to program for Metro.

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    3. Re:Are all these fanboys for real? by cusco · · Score: 1

      Oracle? Let me guess, you're a fan of SAP as well? In all the dozens of businesses that I have worked with over the last decade and a half only two of them had Oracle installations. Implementing both were multi-year multi-million dollar fiascoes, and both have been phased out and replace with SQL Server and Informix. Very, very few companies have the need for a beast like Oracle, and even fewer have the staff to support it. Claiming that Oracle rules its segment of the business software world because WalMart uses it is rather like claiming that Lamborghini rules the automotive world because the Prince of Monaco drives one.

      Microsoft has only two inroads, OS and the office suite.

      OK, there you have just defined 90+ percent of all the computers every business (that isn't a data farm) owns. That would still be THE dominant position in the business software world even if your statement were correct (which it isn't). Almost every company of any size uses Active Directory for its LDAP authentication, and Exchange is the world's dominant email server. Oh, and Microsoft's cloud infrastructure is one of the largest in the world and it runs Windows. Although Apache is the largest Internet-facing web server, IIS is the largest internally-deployed web server.

      So yeah, you're full of crap.

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  18. Only one good candidate .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bill Gates. Won't happen though.

  19. Consider versus choice by Kingkaid · · Score: 2, Insightful

    He considered android and chose not to use it, there is a difference. You could say it may have worked out well for Nokia had they picked android. Then again look at who tried Android: Dell, HTC, Samsung, LG, Motorola, Lenovo, etc. The only one that can safely say they did well with the android platform is Samsung. That is one winner and most of the other companies were destroyed in the process. The android market was a knife fight, it is not insane to decide not to participate in it.

    1. Re:Consider versus choice by h4rr4r · · Score: 3, Informative

      No, he did not consider it. He was going to use WinPhone no matter what.

      If you have no other options a knife fight is a fine choice. LG seems to be doing fine as well. Dell is trying again and moto finally seems to have some traction with the X.

      The N900 could have been the beginning of going their own way. It at least would have given them a chance at something.

      Elop wanted WinPhone to succeed, Nokia was secondary to that.

    2. Re:Consider versus choice by Richard_at_work · · Score: 3, Informative

      What the hell do people see in the N900 - I had one, my wife had one and we both hated it (but for different reasons). It was flimsy, slow and buggy - what am I missing that other people got?

    3. Re:Consider versus choice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      /.ers, in general, tend to get stuck in historic ruts in my experience. Microsoft is still evil. Google can still do no wrong. Nokia used to make the best phones ever and easily beat Apple - until the evil mole from Microsoft came along ;)

    4. Re:Consider versus choice by h4rr4r · · Score: 1

      They sold more of them than the windows phones. That is all I see in them.

    5. Re:Consider versus choice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      > What the hell do people see in the N900

      While they said N900 they meant N9.

    6. Re:Consider versus choice by swb · · Score: 1

      It's all about the "It runs linux and gives you root access" -- for a lot of Slashdot, that's either actually reason enough for them, or at least some kind of statement they think will gain them public credibility.

    7. Re:Consider versus choice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's all about the "It runs linux and gives you root access"

      Or for those less linux oriented: anything was better than windows phone. Microsoft was in the smartphone/tablet market a long time before IPhone and IPad existed and it was a horror. Their OS of choice was a modified version of Windows at a time where the hardware to reasonably support this choice did not exist and they thought the desktop UI was "one size fits all". Windows Phone had earned a bad reputation and had almost no features (exclusive access to Microsoft Apps) that made it a good choice over the competition.

    8. Re:Consider versus choice by Imbrondir · · Score: 1

      Nice try. Conveniently emitting the part where the almost all the companies mentioned also produced windows phone models. With even less success.

    9. Re:Consider versus choice by preflex · · Score: 2

      What the hell do people see in the N900?

      The n900 doesn't try to pretend it's not a computer. Maemo is a real linux distro, using X11 as its display server. Everything else is a dumbed-down toy.

      If you don't see the value of this, then I guess the n900 just isn't for you. Have fun with your fart apps.

  20. My vote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Woz.

  21. They should hire me by geekoid · · Score: 1

    I guarantee a doubling of stock price in 2 years.

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    1. Re:They should hire me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not about doubling stock price. it's about freeing up MS cash & profits through dividends.

    2. Re:They should hire me by cusco · · Score: 1

      Just having Ballmer step down should do that, even if he was replaced with a wooden cigar store Indian.

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  22. Hope for Elop by devent · · Score: 4, Funny

    After his success to burn Nokia, as a Linux user, I hope for him.
    I'm looking forward to his Burning Platform memo on Microsoft.

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    1. Re:Hope for Elop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Indeed.

  23. Rumors from Redmond suggest a surprise candidate by MiniMike · · Score: 2

    The rumors I heard suggest the new CEO will be a strong contender from the 'unnamed' list: Clippy.

  24. I call bullsh1t by rcs1000 · · Score: 1

    If the list doesn't have Scott Forstall on, then it's a list made up by a journalist.

    And given Elop has managed to destroy every company he's ever run, I find it hard to believe that that the Microsoft board of directors will be so stupid.

    My guess, the return of Gates III as it turns out that every other candidate falls short in some way.

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  25. Bates? by Gavin+Scott · · Score: 1

    Clearly they need to hire someone named Gil Bates, that would be awesome.

    G.

  26. The need one more... by Lumpy · · Score: 1

    Steve Wozniak. He would be one of the few that could turn Microsoft around and back into a tech company that changes the world in a good way.

    Sadly, MSFT board members are not interested in that.

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    1. Re:The need one more... by cmdr_klarg · · Score: 1

      Steve Wozniak. He would be one of the few that could turn Microsoft around and back into a tech company that changes the world in a good way.

      Sadly, MSFT board members are not interested in that.

      I seriously doubt that the Woz would even be remotely interested...

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    2. Re:The need one more... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Although I hear that Woz is a nice guy, I doubt he's either interested or qualified.

      By the time Jobs was kicked out of Apple by Sculley, he apparently wasn't greatlyl interested in trying to turn Apple into a tech company that changes the world in a good way, because he had just come back*** to work to Apple as an engineering fellow working on technical things, and leave the management of the company to the experts. He even credits Sculley, not Jobs with coming up with the strategy that made the Mac successful. His interests in changing the world seem more in the education area than in any business area.

      ***Apparently, his plane crash led him to decide to take some time off from Apple which included blowing some serious money sponsoring a couple US festivals...

    3. Re:The need one more... by cusco · · Score: 1

      My understanding is that while Wozniak is a great techie he hates administration, which is what this job entails.

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    4. Re:The need one more... by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      He is more qualified than the last idiot they had running Microsoft.

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  27. Mulally? by trongey · · Score: 1

    Oh, I thought it was going to be Megan Mullally. That would be awesome.
    Sean Hayes could be head of marketing.

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  28. Watch out for the double-clutch transmission by Latent+Heat · · Score: 1

    If Ford autos under Mulally's watch was known for bad Microsoft software (Sync is regarded as a source of trouble by Consumer Reports), will Windows start shipping with failing automobile transmissions?

  29. If I were Tony... by sootman · · Score: 1

    ... I'd change my name to Gil. Gil Bates. It's a proven fact that familiar names get more votes on a ballot.

    Go Tony! Er, Gil!

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  30. I was so sure... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    that it would be Gill Bates...who is this Tony Bates guy anyway :(

  31. So this is what it looks like by Swampash · · Score: 1

    When the current CEO has spent twenty years eliminating potential future rivals.

    Seriously, that's the best leadership talent Microsoft has? Microsoft, the company that we all used to be terrified of?

    How are the mighty fallen, and the weapons of war perished.

  32. Mulally the best pick ? by perpenso · · Score: 1

    Mulally would be the best pick, which is why it's not going to be him.

    Mulally the best pick? He did an incredible job at Boeing and Ford but why would that experience translate to Microsoft? Microsoft isn't building passenger carrying vehicles out of metal and composites.

    Brilliance is domain specific. Being a rocket scientist, and Mulally literally is one, doesn't mean you will excel in any field.

  33. Literally a rocket scientist ... by perpenso · · Score: 1

    Former Ford CEO - hey at least Ford has been doing well. But does this guy know a wheel from a mouse?

    He is literally a rocket scientist. BS and MS degrees in aeronautical and astronautical engineering. When he studied business he did so at MIT. He spent many years at Boeing in their Space and Defense division and in the Commercial Aircraft division.

    That said, I share the sentiment that knowing how to make passenger carrying vehicles out of metal and composites qualifies one to run Microsoft.

  34. It should definitely be Bates by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But only if he changes his first name to Gill.

  35. Miguel de Icaza by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mono y Mono

  36. Oh please by gelfling · · Score: 1

    Mulalley is too old. Elop the Nokia guy destroyed his own company and the 'internal' candidates listed were injected into MS from acquisitions and can't wait to cash out. MS is actually a very conservative company they will pick a long time insider. It shouldn't amaze anyone if they pick someone with an accounting or legal background. MS is a portfolio of acquisitions now not an internally innovative company. They BUY innovation.

  37. It will be Elop by Sir+Holo · · Score: 1

    Elop went to Nokia as a subversive, to nuke their share price, so that MS could buy them on the cheap.

    Save a company a few billion, and you tend to be remembered.

    Although considering him an "outsider" is a bit of a stretch. And buying Nokia's handset business does NOT mean that MS now knows how to make hardware.

  38. Gill Bates? by bjb · · Score: 1
    In my pre-caffienated state this morning and frankly not paying much attention to who is going to take over Microsoft, I couldn't help but to think Gill Bates when seeing that name.

    If the guy is a suitable candidate to run the firm, it would almost be too perfect :-)

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