it's a smart thing for business and education to learn Chinese, or any other language of a country you may visit or do business in
yeah for sure...but do you remember the "ooh China" fad from a few years ago?
obviously if you're getting transfered to China, or are the buyer for China then you would learn some Chinese...this is S.O.P. ever since there was languages
people were having their 4 year olds take Mandarin...dudes were learning it just to put it on the resume...that kind of stuff...
that's ridiculous and hilarious to me...and the research in TFA bears that out...
Also, read further down and there is a comment from an expat who has seen two *Chinese* people speaking Englsih b/c their dialects were too different
I'm reading through responses to my post and it seems many commenters have an emotional attachment to the 'Chinese' language (actually there are hundreds of variations)...
You're missing the point I think...
In France, the Indian, Moroccan, Tunisian, Australian, Argentinian, and Japanese students have *ONE* common language:
english
If China can maintain its position as a superpower then Mandarin will definitely become a necessary language for international business.
practicallly impossible...are all those Indians, Moroccans, Tunisians, Australians, Argentinians, and Japanese (and Chinese) are going to all learn *one* version of Chinese
it absolutely will not happen on any timescale under 10^3 years
English took the efforts of *two* colonial countries over 400 years to become the world's language...
your own farts...maybe it'll eventually get you high
speaking of which, only someone who is high on government dope would type this with a straight face:
The machine shows you responses you can't see. It's as simple as that, there's no reason for it not to work.
man, there is *every reason* that science uses as reasons to *know* as much as science lets us know that those responses are interpreted and based on speculation.
that machine has nothing to do with they question at hand...even if a guilty person lies and the needles go haywire, **that doesn't mean shit**
you still have no idea of they are guilty or innocent
You *only* know what the interviewee tells you verbally...the rest is your imagination agumented by the military/industrial complex and your need to pay your mortgage
It's like saying the low oil light on your car is "absolutely not an oil detector"
absolutely not...an 'oil light' is actually *scientific* and has been tested and calibrated against chemicals that behave very predictably
here's your analogy to car shit:
"It's like saying a banging from the engine is 'absolutely not the alternator'"
'banging' is completely subjective to each driver in each scenario...like a person's physiological reactions
however, an engine *can* make noise that virtually any hearer would guess that it comes from the engine...
but, be that as it may, you *still* are making a complete assumption to say anything about whether it is the alternator or not...just given that you hear a 'bang' in the engine.
however, given alot of context...alot of time driving in many different conditions, *and* insider knowledge of what has been fixed recently and what has shown signs of wear on the engine...
I never thought I'd say this, but I suspect that the MBA's are correct.
why? you say yourself that everyone usually speaks english 'fluently'
if they could buy from someone who spoke their native language, they would
this just doesn't make any sense to me...when would a Chinese person in China have a choice between buying from an English-only speaker and a Chinese speaker...in China?
b/c if it is in America or some other country, and they all speak english...that proves my point...
btw...in Asia the **LOVE** english and put it all over shop signs with virtually no context to what the shop sells...
tell you what...when Starbucks here in America starts putting random Chinese words on their signs intended soley for other English speaking Americans...
and...when Italian, Argentinian, German, French, Norwegian, Russian...when the USA and THOSE countries start importing any native Chinese speaker with a college degree and paying them middle class wages...
See, I think you missed my point from my post above...when I talked about my scientific work in France in 2009, when I said this:
in the computer lab all the Moroccans, Russians, Germans, Itialians, Chinese, Japanese, and yes French students spoke English.
Moroccans converse with Russians and Chinese in group work in English.
English is the language of last resort...the *common* language of the world for business and science.
I took French lessons while I was over there at the university. Lessons were mandatory until you were conversational precisely *because* they hated the fact that all the international students conversed in English.
The point of the program was to do HCI research and study France's business and tech culture. I can understand why they wanted us to speak French and I was happy to learn.
In my French class a Libyan, Japanese, Camaroonean, Mexican, Brazilian, Pakistani and yours truly *all would converse in English* to help each other with answers.
The French teacher (who herself had taught in China for years) banned all English from the classroom **because it was too much of a crutch for us all**
So...the Mexican and I would still help each other in Spanish! Ha!
So you're just way, way, way off...
Why is this hard to accept as fact when it so obvious? Acknoledging the truth doesn't mean you approve of it or even like English.
I remember very recently there was a sort of "learn Chinese" fad going around...
It was usually some techie MBA type...
OH at the watercooler: "oh yeah, I'm learning Chinese...yeah for sure...it's all China man...it is the next superpower"
Or yuppie parents...
"yes we have jonny and suzy both in Mandarin classes twice a week..."
I taught English in Korea in 2002 (world cup woo hoo) and had several friends who did the same in China, Japan, and Thailand.
The idea that learning Chinese would ever be anyone's idea of a smart thing for business or education in the 21st Century **baffled** me when I first read it (probably a Friedman article)...
This kind of bears it out in numbers...
400 million **don't even speak it in their own country**
It's English...for better or worse international business and science is conducted in English.
Same was true when I studied at Telecom Bretagne in France in 2009...in the computer lab all the Moroccans, Russians, Germans, Itialians, Chinese, Japanese, and yes French students spoke English.
Chinese is fine. If you want a challenge go for it...but don't do it thinking it'll be a good business investment or learning tool for a child...if that's what you want you'll just end with torture;)
all the polygraph comes down to is a meaningless chart interpreted by a biased administrator
indeed...this is purely the end of the matter, as the US courts decided long ago...when I applied to the FBI back in 2000 I was genuinely surprised they were in use again!
I will add that all these sphincter tips are accurate in a sense. Depending on how it is calibrated flexing a muscle in this manner will definitely produce readings in most circumstances.
I honestly don't know how to relate it to the 'pass/fail' paradigm though...ex: if you demonstrate knowledge of how the polygraph works, you can get an automatic 'fail' or 'inconclusive'
Eventually this nonsense won't be justifiable to even the dumbed beurecrat. It gains nothing and costs thousands.
his helping people to not just beat the polygraph, but to lie to government agencies
actually it was a **sting operation** and they got him on a very narrow interpretation of the law...
see, you can't teach how to 'pass' or 'fail' a test that is completely inaccurate!!!
according to TFA he teaches facts about the polygraph, and I'd imagine has one he hooks people up to one of his own...no results guaranteed
'passing' the polygraph isn't about 'guilt' or 'innocence' again I must state
The got him on audio tape doing his typical program...no 'extra help'....they way they got him was they **volunteered that they had something to hide** from the gov't...he just continued with his lesson.
He probably just disregarded this info they disclosed b/c...as I've said...the *actual* truth about a question has noting to do with whether you pass or fail!
This conviction is bullshit, IMHO...maybe they technically 'got him' but it's not justice in any sense...and he definitely did NOT help anyone lie to the government!
Could Humans Use New Technology Create Modern-Day 'Leper Colonies'?
I love these discussions...how will a new tech affect human society? fun stuff...
But it is an engineering and cultural geography question...not a purely sociological or psychological concept...
Here's what I mean:
Engineering: when new tech is developed, the next problem is getting people to use it. "The last mile" so to speak. It's often a question of scale as well, handling 10^8 users on a system. The internet itself is a good example. Countless articles and TED talks have been given about how the internet affects society, but it is a moot point completely for places that have no internet access.
Most of the current thinking (good and bad) is about having 'universal broadband access'...not any one magic gadget or laptop...even Zuck is in on it with his new initiative....that's really just an IT and T-Com question.
Cultural Geography: It's different than sociology and psychology..soc. and psych. are theoretical quasi-sciences (definitely scientific). Cultural Geography is descriptive more than theoretical.
Psychology will tell you if playing video games changes your reactions to questions on a test.
Sociology will tell you how internet access in school and the home correlate to things like finishing college or going to prison.
Cultural Geography describes what humans do with technology.
I'm not dogmatic about these distictions, these are academic disciplines and there is always wiggle room.
Basically I'm saying that this new GhettoFinder app is nothing more than a potential tool for individual cultural geography.
It does nothing more than give data in a context. After that it is all up to the human.
When you're getting your ass kicked, it may *feel* like the other person is trying to kill you, but believe me it'll be okay
also, big lesson here...anyone who has ever been in fights has had their ass kicked...it sucks
i agree that the process of fighting hard and losing control, getting beat up...then waking up the next day and dealing with it...it just seems like that *used* to be a right of passage for all boys...like grade school or middle school
it lets you know what is at stake in a fight...and encourages you to make it the last resort...b/c people. could. get. killed.
So what percentage of street fights end with someone dying? 50%? 75%? probably less than.01%
Here we go...see, I'm only 34 but I feel 68 because this basic knowledge you stated...it *used* to be common knowledge...
Now, I just can't think of a clearer way to say it...men have gone soft...
That's what makes them 'lash out' and buy expensive assault rifles...nerd rage...
The real number of deadly street fights is easily below.00001%
By the current legal definition of 'assault'...and excluding domestic assault or robberty type stuff, there are thousands of bar scuffles in any given weekend in a college town.
I know, I've been in a few myself. It sucks and is stupid and childish.
Zimmerman and Trayvon had words, to be sure, but absolutely no evidence was presented as to *who hit first*...Zimmerman didn't even take the stand to testify to it!
Where this is going is *more*...more little bitch wannabe cops (like Zimmerman) trying to 'draw the foul' on anyone that intimidates them or presents as a target for their self-aggrandizing.
We'll see it play out slowly, but in 10 years the stats will be clear...we'll see it in a rise of shootings by working and middle class white people that get caught up in court...other states will start having Zimmerman type shootings get publicity...court battles...
well, rich people take advantage of anti-social 'ron paul' internet dorks like Snowden and/.'s Obama haters...they ride their hateful ignorance like a fucking wave...it's embarassing to see...
more to our neighborhood...here on/. it's either full-on post bots or trolls...they troll from the perspective of a jealousy and anger. men today have been robbed of alot of agency that evolution granted us...physical superiority means virtually nothing in the battle of the sexes now...we have to exist in a social environment we're not evolutionarily optimized for...men are by a large margin in human history the killers of the tribe...women stay behind...
well not anymore...now the richest men are like Zuckerberg...so there you go...
it's about evolution and bloodlust...and an ancient aristocracy that takes advantage of predictable human failings such as that to establish generational revenue streams...
it takes a level of maturity and self-respect to take responsibility for taking the wrong policy position and *changing*...that's another part of it...they just cant admit when they are wrong so they have to continually bullshit themselves to justify their existence...
we have to call it out when we see it then move on...identify and evacuate...
this won't ever happen, but I'd love to have a legal reason to kick your ass
you're a bully...bullies are shirveled little half/men deep inside...they have to push others down to make themselves feel worthy
i pity you, for sure, but be that as it may you need to be humbled and beat down yourself...you need to see what the reality of all the words you talk feels like...
that's the start for you...if you are *lucky* a real man will kick your ass into next Tuesday and start you on the path to true manhood...
At least something like this can give Trayvon's murder some significance and maybe someday a long time from now people will look up the Trayvon Asteroid for some random reason and read about what happened and how it got the name.
They will be astonished that morons like you still existed in 2013...but at least we will have done *something* permanent to let the universe know we all aren't sub-moronic sociopaths like you;)
man, the facebook.com thing has been stuck in my mind lately as I've been learning PHP...
see, I'm 34 and my dad was a Navy cryptographer and electronics instructor so I was exposed to this stuff really early on. Lucky me.
so I had an idea of pre-digital computing as a kid (my dad used punch cards!), and the entire PC and digital revolution has pretty much happened during my lifetime...for sure on the consumer side.
I'm not alone in having a sort of natural understanding of things! Most people my age, especially the kids who were lucky enough to have internet access in the mid-90s, see things the way I do.
heh...I said all that to say this:
like many others my age, I *knew* that myspace.com and freindster.com were inferior and that all a site needed was basic functions like a profile picture, friend list, messaging, etc to become HUGE
no one had done it...correction...no one had done it with the discipline to keep the adware and bullshit (rendering it unusable)
facebook learned from google's victory over yahoo! in search...they kept it plain and simple...
then they did their little 'rich kid only' phased launch...a dastardly, if effective way to market a product
to the point: even though tons of people *knew* a facebook-type site would be highly successful, no one wanted to take the risk to maintain an unprofitable company as long as Zuck and Parker did...basically they were willing to bullshit everyone with talk of a 'new way to interact' crap until they could get a big enough valuation for an IPO
they were rich kids, had the money to be unprofitable for years...
BUT they also, as a group, did most of the coding themselves for the beginning...and continue to have major input if not in fact run the show...
Dustin Moskovitz I gather was the lead programmer, but Zuck was no slouch...he did significantly contribute to the codebase.
So they were rich, stubborn, AND had a basic level of coding competence.
As I said above, as far as I can tell, 90% of their codebase is shit to make Zuckerberg more money...the actual functionality, minus ads and data harvesting...
How difficult would it be to implement that on a scale that could handle 10^9 scale users?
Not server side, just the website code?
Using todays HTML, CSS3 and standards...could one person code a basic facebook clone without much help?
What do you think about all this? Thanks for your input.
You've never read an article on how development at Facebook works, I take it.
I have but it was pre-2008 and i'm sure they've made several changes since.
I know that facebook.com works. I kind of hate the company's leadership, but from a technical perspective I can appreciate a system of that scale that allows me to chat instantly with people on 4 different continents while constantly updating a 'feed'
Are you saying that facebook.com's codebase would be especially well made, or especially 'chicken scratch'?
I'm new to higher scale web developing so at this point I honsetly don't know what you are trying to say.
having a "here's how to do the most common thing" tutorial... is probably sane
Yes. Do that.
In education psychology and education design grouping information in that manner is standard practice. A teacher might identify and concentrate instruction time most heavily in the most important areas of a task analysis.
FYI, in education today, every lesson plan starts with a 'task analysis'....ed. majors are taught to analyze "what should the student *know* and *be able to do* after the lesson is finished"
Its two factors 'know'...as in a test of knowledge of data....'be able to do'...the all important second step of applying the data to solve a problem
Sounds alot like a user task analysis, no?
Another reason why I like the 'teach don't tell' mantra...
Time for some coders and engineers to audit an educational psychology class!
you say yourself, very succinctly I might add, why this is 'news'
When is there a major update to a platform without a "revolt"?
Exactly! EVERY TIME...virtually...it's ridiculous and embarrassing to be that bad at design. Have you no shame??? Imagine this in another industry. Something pre-PC...say Craftsman Tools.
If Craftsman 'upgraded' from solid steel to a cheaper allow, stopped making Metric completely, and told users it was an 'improvement'
That's where we are at here...only it is worse, b/c Yahoo! spent millions on 'A/B testing'...
Google did this with their Image search. M$ does this for everything.
The computing industry is spoiled rotten. Treating end users this way is sure-fire way to destroy your company, but you have your M$'s and facebook.com's who throw the curve and give us in the industry a false expectation of how much we must cater to our user
facebook, yahoo, google....they're all on a big ego trip...they mistake the glory and riches bestowed by the computing industry as something that **they did**
in the end, the founders of these companies were competent engineers and in the right place at the right time
the functionality of their products is everyday technology...mostly software and code
ex: facebook...it's just words and pictures with a user login. the rest is shit to make Zuckerberg money. Sure their codebase is probably pretty well designed and impressive...but it is nothing that couldn't be replicated...facebook.com has to work fast enough for humans, that's it...they meet that criteria and then its just maintenence.
no innovation there...
counter example: *clickwheel* on the iPod...that's a real, actual innovation done by engineers...it solved a user interface problem AND pioneered a new tech
internet companies are going to learn a very hard lesson soon....
I hope it is my company that is doing the teaching!!!$$$!!!$$$
Who cares about non-techies? we're talking about API docs
define 'non-techies' my friend...
it's a sliding scale...my grandma is a 'non-techie'...so is my cousin, her great-grand daughter...both non-techies...one uses the internet, facebook app, instagram app, edits photos, and maintains a blog...
both are 'non-techies'
in that same way, take say a Cisco certified Network Admin (I used to be one)...they are 'a techie'!!
however, techie though they may be, a CCNA could be gainfully employed for years without ever being anything other than an 'end user' of an API, if they ever use one at all...
so, in this manner, an IT professional with a decade of experience could be a **new users** of an API...
**IN THAT CONTEXT** they need and are logical to expect some 'document' that functions as a 'user manual' of some sort
it's a sliding scale...'techie'....learn this lesson now
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yeah for sure...but do you remember the "ooh China" fad from a few years ago?
obviously if you're getting transfered to China, or are the buyer for China then you would learn some Chinese...this is S.O.P. ever since there was languages
people were having their 4 year olds take Mandarin...dudes were learning it just to put it on the resume...that kind of stuff...
that's ridiculous and hilarious to me...and the research in TFA bears that out...
Also, read further down and there is a comment from an expat who has seen two *Chinese* people speaking Englsih b/c their dialects were too different
I'm reading through responses to my post and it seems many commenters have an emotional attachment to the 'Chinese' language (actually there are hundreds of variations)...
You're missing the point I think...
In France, the Indian, Moroccan, Tunisian, Australian, Argentinian, and Japanese students have *ONE* common language:
english
practicallly impossible...are all those Indians, Moroccans, Tunisians, Australians, Argentinians, and Japanese (and Chinese) are going to all learn *one* version of Chinese
it absolutely will not happen on any timescale under 10^3 years
English took the efforts of *two* colonial countries over 400 years to become the world's language...
You're biased man...it just won't happen
stop it...just stop...you made up those numbers
also, you do not understand accuracy in a scientific sense
correlation is not causation...let's start there
no one knows how the brain works...the best we can do is match *self reported* data to vague electrical changes in parts of the brain
emotional data is **self reported** non-quantifiable data...it is not fit for accurate comparison in the way you describe at all
it is physically impossible to know if a person is lying based on physiological response
all the Wired articles you read and TED talks about using fMRIs to detect autism earlier...it's not at all what you are reading it to be...
just stop...you don't know what you are talking about
your own farts...maybe it'll eventually get you high
speaking of which, only someone who is high on government dope would type this with a straight face:
man, there is *every reason* that science uses as reasons to *know* as much as science lets us know that those responses are interpreted and based on speculation.
that machine has nothing to do with they question at hand...even if a guilty person lies and the needles go haywire, **that doesn't mean shit**
you still have no idea of they are guilty or innocent
You *only* know what the interviewee tells you verbally...the rest is your imagination agumented by the military/industrial complex and your need to pay your mortgage
get a real fucking job
absolutely not...an 'oil light' is actually *scientific* and has been tested and calibrated against chemicals that behave very predictably
here's your analogy to car shit:
"It's like saying a banging from the engine is 'absolutely not the alternator'"
'banging' is completely subjective to each driver in each scenario...like a person's physiological reactions
however, an engine *can* make noise that virtually any hearer would guess that it comes from the engine...
but, be that as it may, you *still* are making a complete assumption to say anything about whether it is the alternator or not...just given that you hear a 'bang' in the engine.
however, given alot of context...alot of time driving in many different conditions, *and* insider knowledge of what has been fixed recently and what has shown signs of wear on the engine...
combined with the 'bang'...
is still speculation!
that's why your description is not accurate ;)
why? you say yourself that everyone usually speaks english 'fluently'
this just doesn't make any sense to me...when would a Chinese person in China have a choice between buying from an English-only speaker and a Chinese speaker...in China?
b/c if it is in America or some other country, and they all speak english...that proves my point...
btw...in Asia the **LOVE** english and put it all over shop signs with virtually no context to what the shop sells...
tell you what...when Starbucks here in America starts putting random Chinese words on their signs intended soley for other English speaking Americans...
and...when Italian, Argentinian, German, French, Norwegian, Russian...when the USA and THOSE countries start importing any native Chinese speaker with a college degree and paying them middle class wages...
then...maybe...you might be on to something...
you just aren't undestanding the scale
See, I think you missed my point from my post above...when I talked about my scientific work in France in 2009, when I said this:
Moroccans converse with Russians and Chinese in group work in English.
English is the language of last resort...the *common* language of the world for business and science.
I took French lessons while I was over there at the university. Lessons were mandatory until you were conversational precisely *because* they hated the fact that all the international students conversed in English.
The point of the program was to do HCI research and study France's business and tech culture. I can understand why they wanted us to speak French and I was happy to learn.
In my French class a Libyan, Japanese, Camaroonean, Mexican, Brazilian, Pakistani and yours truly *all would converse in English* to help each other with answers.
The French teacher (who herself had taught in China for years) banned all English from the classroom **because it was too much of a crutch for us all**
So...the Mexican and I would still help each other in Spanish! Ha!
So you're just way, way, way off...
Why is this hard to accept as fact when it so obvious? Acknoledging the truth doesn't mean you approve of it or even like English.
Howdy Mr. Norway, interesting thoughts.
I was a bit baffled by this:
and your point about middle managers...could you maybe explain it a different way?
also, I'd like to hear more of your evidence for this statement:
Is this from your experience in *both* China and Mexico?
Seeing as you are Norwegian, I'm inclined to think you have not been to both countries. If you have, and my assumption is incorrect, let me know.
See, I *do* have experience in Mexico and my Asian experience I mentioned above.
You are correct when you say this:
Right.
No one would expect otherwise.
I made no distinction between 'speaking English' 'using English for Business' and
That is a distinction you made, not me.
It seems you are offering some kind of counterpoint to my contention, I just honestly can't identify what it is.
You agree with my point about Chinese and English...I'm not sure what you are saying...
yeah I think you hit the nail on the head...
I saw some posts below that quote the judge saying some favorable comments that would be in line with this...
maybe he never thought they'd bother with him?
I remember very recently there was a sort of "learn Chinese" fad going around...
It was usually some techie MBA type...
OH at the watercooler: "oh yeah, I'm learning Chinese...yeah for sure...it's all China man...it is the next superpower"
Or yuppie parents...
"yes we have jonny and suzy both in Mandarin classes twice a week..."
I taught English in Korea in 2002 (world cup woo hoo) and had several friends who did the same in China, Japan, and Thailand.
The idea that learning Chinese would ever be anyone's idea of a smart thing for business or education in the 21st Century **baffled** me when I first read it (probably a Friedman article)...
This kind of bears it out in numbers...
400 million **don't even speak it in their own country**
It's English...for better or worse international business and science is conducted in English.
Same was true when I studied at Telecom Bretagne in France in 2009...in the computer lab all the Moroccans, Russians, Germans, Itialians, Chinese, Japanese, and yes French students spoke English.
Chinese is fine. If you want a challenge go for it...but don't do it thinking it'll be a good business investment or learning tool for a child...if that's what you want you'll just end with torture ;)
indeed...this is purely the end of the matter, as the US courts decided long ago...when I applied to the FBI back in 2000 I was genuinely surprised they were in use again!
I will add that all these sphincter tips are accurate in a sense. Depending on how it is calibrated flexing a muscle in this manner will definitely produce readings in most circumstances.
I honestly don't know how to relate it to the 'pass/fail' paradigm though...ex: if you demonstrate knowledge of how the polygraph works, you can get an automatic 'fail' or 'inconclusive'
Eventually this nonsense won't be justifiable to even the dumbed beurecrat. It gains nothing and costs thousands.
talk about 'thoughtcrime'...
actually it was a **sting operation** and they got him on a very narrow interpretation of the law...
see, you can't teach how to 'pass' or 'fail' a test that is completely inaccurate!!!
according to TFA he teaches facts about the polygraph, and I'd imagine has one he hooks people up to one of his own...no results guaranteed
'passing' the polygraph isn't about 'guilt' or 'innocence' again I must state
The got him on audio tape doing his typical program...no 'extra help'....they way they got him was they **volunteered that they had something to hide** from the gov't...he just continued with his lesson.
He probably just disregarded this info they disclosed b/c...as I've said...the *actual* truth about a question has noting to do with whether you pass or fail!
This conviction is bullshit, IMHO...maybe they technically 'got him' but it's not justice in any sense...and he definitely did NOT help anyone lie to the government!
headline should read,
Could Humans Use New Technology Create Modern-Day 'Leper Colonies'?
I love these discussions...how will a new tech affect human society? fun stuff...
But it is an engineering and cultural geography question...not a purely sociological or psychological concept...
Here's what I mean:
Engineering: when new tech is developed, the next problem is getting people to use it. "The last mile" so to speak. It's often a question of scale as well, handling 10^8 users on a system. The internet itself is a good example. Countless articles and TED talks have been given about how the internet affects society, but it is a moot point completely for places that have no internet access.
Most of the current thinking (good and bad) is about having 'universal broadband access'...not any one magic gadget or laptop...even Zuck is in on it with his new initiative....that's really just an IT and T-Com question.
Cultural Geography: It's different than sociology and psychology..soc. and psych. are theoretical quasi-sciences (definitely scientific). Cultural Geography is descriptive more than theoretical.
Psychology will tell you if playing video games changes your reactions to questions on a test.
Sociology will tell you how internet access in school and the home correlate to things like finishing college or going to prison.
Cultural Geography describes what humans do with technology.
I'm not dogmatic about these distictions, these are academic disciplines and there is always wiggle room.
Basically I'm saying that this new GhettoFinder app is nothing more than a potential tool for individual cultural geography.
It does nothing more than give data in a context. After that it is all up to the human.
also, big lesson here...anyone who has ever been in fights has had their ass kicked...it sucks
i agree that the process of fighting hard and losing control, getting beat up...then waking up the next day and dealing with it...it just seems like that *used* to be a right of passage for all boys...like grade school or middle school
it lets you know what is at stake in a fight...and encourages you to make it the last resort...b/c people. could. get. killed.
Here we go...see, I'm only 34 but I feel 68 because this basic knowledge you stated...it *used* to be common knowledge...
Now, I just can't think of a clearer way to say it...men have gone soft...
That's what makes them 'lash out' and buy expensive assault rifles...nerd rage...
The real number of deadly street fights is easily below .00001%
By the current legal definition of 'assault'...and excluding domestic assault or robberty type stuff, there are thousands of bar scuffles in any given weekend in a college town.
I know, I've been in a few myself. It sucks and is stupid and childish.
Zimmerman and Trayvon had words, to be sure, but absolutely no evidence was presented as to *who hit first*...Zimmerman didn't even take the stand to testify to it!
Where this is going is *more*...more little bitch wannabe cops (like Zimmerman) trying to 'draw the foul' on anyone that intimidates them or presents as a target for their self-aggrandizing.
We'll see it play out slowly, but in 10 years the stats will be clear...we'll see it in a rise of shootings by working and middle class white people that get caught up in court...other states will start having Zimmerman type shootings get publicity...court battles...
That's my opinion anyway...
man, you're a little bitch if you think posting on facebook, smoking a joint, and drinking drank makes you a 'bully'
you're thinking like a high schooler dork...
think like an adult human...consider a grown man encountering a 17 year old boy
it should have never gone down like it did...not even if Trayvon was the aggressor (which he wasn't)
a real man doesn't look for the first chance he can to shoot someone dead...like some internet troll/dork who thinks reality is like a math equation
not even close...c'mon AC/troll
literally...you're out of your fucking mind of you think this is true
well, rich people take advantage of anti-social 'ron paul' internet dorks like Snowden and /.'s Obama haters...they ride their hateful ignorance like a fucking wave...it's embarassing to see...
more to our neighborhood...here on /. it's either full-on post bots or trolls...they troll from the perspective of a jealousy and anger. men today have been robbed of alot of agency that evolution granted us...physical superiority means virtually nothing in the battle of the sexes now...we have to exist in a social environment we're not evolutionarily optimized for...men are by a large margin in human history the killers of the tribe...women stay behind...
well not anymore...now the richest men are like Zuckerberg...so there you go...
it's about evolution and bloodlust...and an ancient aristocracy that takes advantage of predictable human failings such as that to establish generational revenue streams...
it takes a level of maturity and self-respect to take responsibility for taking the wrong policy position and *changing*...that's another part of it...they just cant admit when they are wrong so they have to continually bullshit themselves to justify their existence...
we have to call it out when we see it then move on...identify and evacuate...
this won't ever happen, but I'd love to have a legal reason to kick your ass
you're a bully...bullies are shirveled little half/men deep inside...they have to push others down to make themselves feel worthy
i pity you, for sure, but be that as it may you need to be humbled and beat down yourself...you need to see what the reality of all the words you talk feels like...
that's the start for you...if you are *lucky* a real man will kick your ass into next Tuesday and start you on the path to true manhood...
good luck ;)
this definitely needs to happen.
At least something like this can give Trayvon's murder some significance and maybe someday a long time from now people will look up the Trayvon Asteroid for some random reason and read about what happened and how it got the name.
They will be astonished that morons like you still existed in 2013...but at least we will have done *something* permanent to let the universe know we all aren't sub-moronic sociopaths like you ;)
word I'm with you...
man, the facebook.com thing has been stuck in my mind lately as I've been learning PHP...
see, I'm 34 and my dad was a Navy cryptographer and electronics instructor so I was exposed to this stuff really early on. Lucky me.
so I had an idea of pre-digital computing as a kid (my dad used punch cards!), and the entire PC and digital revolution has pretty much happened during my lifetime...for sure on the consumer side.
I'm not alone in having a sort of natural understanding of things! Most people my age, especially the kids who were lucky enough to have internet access in the mid-90s, see things the way I do.
heh...I said all that to say this:
like many others my age, I *knew* that myspace.com and freindster.com were inferior and that all a site needed was basic functions like a profile picture, friend list, messaging, etc to become HUGE
no one had done it...correction...no one had done it with the discipline to keep the adware and bullshit (rendering it unusable)
facebook learned from google's victory over yahoo! in search...they kept it plain and simple...
then they did their little 'rich kid only' phased launch...a dastardly, if effective way to market a product
to the point: even though tons of people *knew* a facebook-type site would be highly successful, no one wanted to take the risk to maintain an unprofitable company as long as Zuck and Parker did...basically they were willing to bullshit everyone with talk of a 'new way to interact' crap until they could get a big enough valuation for an IPO
they were rich kids, had the money to be unprofitable for years...
BUT they also, as a group, did most of the coding themselves for the beginning...and continue to have major input if not in fact run the show...
Dustin Moskovitz I gather was the lead programmer, but Zuck was no slouch...he did significantly contribute to the codebase.
So they were rich, stubborn, AND had a basic level of coding competence.
As I said above, as far as I can tell, 90% of their codebase is shit to make Zuckerberg more money...the actual functionality, minus ads and data harvesting...
How difficult would it be to implement that on a scale that could handle 10^9 scale users?
Not server side, just the website code?
Using todays HTML, CSS3 and standards...could one person code a basic facebook clone without much help?
What do you think about all this? Thanks for your input.
I have but it was pre-2008 and i'm sure they've made several changes since.
I know that facebook.com works. I kind of hate the company's leadership, but from a technical perspective I can appreciate a system of that scale that allows me to chat instantly with people on 4 different continents while constantly updating a 'feed'
Are you saying that facebook.com's codebase would be especially well made, or especially 'chicken scratch'?
I'm new to higher scale web developing so at this point I honsetly don't know what you are trying to say.
Yes. Do that.
In education psychology and education design grouping information in that manner is standard practice. A teacher might identify and concentrate instruction time most heavily in the most important areas of a task analysis.
FYI, in education today, every lesson plan starts with a 'task analysis'....ed. majors are taught to analyze "what should the student *know* and *be able to do* after the lesson is finished"
Its two factors 'know'...as in a test of knowledge of data....'be able to do'...the all important second step of applying the data to solve a problem
Sounds alot like a user task analysis, no?
Another reason why I like the 'teach don't tell' mantra...
Time for some coders and engineers to audit an educational psychology class!
you say yourself, very succinctly I might add, why this is 'news'
Exactly! EVERY TIME...virtually...it's ridiculous and embarrassing to be that bad at design. Have you no shame??? Imagine this in another industry. Something pre-PC...say Craftsman Tools.
If Craftsman 'upgraded' from solid steel to a cheaper allow, stopped making Metric completely, and told users it was an 'improvement'
That's where we are at here...only it is worse, b/c Yahoo! spent millions on 'A/B testing'...
Google did this with their Image search. M$ does this for everything.
The computing industry is spoiled rotten. Treating end users this way is sure-fire way to destroy your company, but you have your M$'s and facebook.com's who throw the curve and give us in the industry a false expectation of how much we must cater to our user
facebook, yahoo, google....they're all on a big ego trip...they mistake the glory and riches bestowed by the computing industry as something that **they did**
in the end, the founders of these companies were competent engineers and in the right place at the right time
the functionality of their products is everyday technology...mostly software and code
ex: facebook...it's just words and pictures with a user login. the rest is shit to make Zuckerberg money. Sure their codebase is probably pretty well designed and impressive...but it is nothing that couldn't be replicated...facebook.com has to work fast enough for humans, that's it...they meet that criteria and then its just maintenence.
no innovation there...
counter example: *clickwheel* on the iPod...that's a real, actual innovation done by engineers...it solved a user interface problem AND pioneered a new tech
internet companies are going to learn a very hard lesson soon....
I hope it is my company that is doing the teaching!!!$$$!!!$$$
define 'non-techies' my friend...
it's a sliding scale...my grandma is a 'non-techie'...so is my cousin, her great-grand daughter...both non-techies...one uses the internet, facebook app, instagram app, edits photos, and maintains a blog...
both are 'non-techies'
in that same way, take say a Cisco certified Network Admin (I used to be one)...they are 'a techie'!!
however, techie though they may be, a CCNA could be gainfully employed for years without ever being anything other than an 'end user' of an API, if they ever use one at all...
so, in this manner, an IT professional with a decade of experience could be a **new users** of an API...
**IN THAT CONTEXT** they need and are logical to expect some 'document' that functions as a 'user manual' of some sort
it's a sliding scale...'techie'....learn this lesson now