Actually according to the Witnesses, from text that I read, the 144,000 chosen ones are the ones spared from Revelation and due to their innate "goodness" will enter Heaven. The rest of the virtous (including the resurrected dead) get to enjoy a physical Paradise on a remade Earth. (presumably with enough living space to handle the extra load) The Chosen ones as I understand it are to asisst Christ in governing the new Earth.
We've had test cases in our own history. The first voyages to the New World, to Cathay, and the uknown reaches of Africa were seen in those days in the same kind of light that voyaging to another planet would seem to us. The peoples inhabiting those unseen far off lands did not have their humanity taken for granted. Science Fiction has explored the topic at length, usually in short story format. Bablylon 5 touched the subject occasionally, and Deep Space 9 missed a great opportunity by ignoring the topic altogether. (What would Christians and Bajorans have to say to each other? Or better yet, how about Bajorans and the followers of Islam?)
The most likely reactions depend on two possiblities. 1. The discovery is nothing more than a statistical phomomenon, a radio anomaly that's significant enough to be artificial, but too distant and weak to be intelligible. In that case, most religious types, like just about everyone else would pretty much ignore it once the novelty has passed off. 2.The second possibility is evidence on the level of Carl Sagan's Contact. In that scenario, you probably will have a spectrum of reactions ranging from rejection to outright accomodation into existing worldviews. I would suspect that most Christian leaders would think long and hard before pronouncing an alien race free from Original Sin, and might even start thinking about missionary programs like the predecessors of centuries ago.
Religions evolve as the world expands. Sometimes it's just moderate ways, like the continual pushback of Armageddon by the Jehovah's Witnesses', others more dramatic and profound as formerly suppressed groups (i.e. women, minoriites) start flexing economic muscle.
As to the impact of actually finding a habited habitable world? (I ABSOLUTELY REFUSE TO USE TREK TERMS) Unless we actually pick up a stray radio broadcast from a twin to Arecibo out there, the technology required to do so is far enough away, that by the time (if) it's developed, we'll be changed enough to make answering the question now, a meaningless exercise.
I was paying attention to the Cassini protests, and reading a couple of more serious books published on Cassini hazards as well. I'm a bit skeptical on the tests NASA's made about the RTG safety however, I'd read NASA's worse case scenario studys, the one's I read only covered launch as opposed to the Earth flyby scenario, which would have resulted in a considerably more dangerous scenario considering the high speed involved in the Earth flyby. While the Plutonium used does have a relatively short half life, we're still talking major short-term damage if enough was released over a populated area. I would have preferred the use of a larger booster, or perhaps grouped boosters put together in orbit over an Earth flyby, but we don't have the techniques down yet for that last option. Considering that NASA seems to be having major problems with the implementation of "faster, better, cheaper", I have considerably less confidence in letting them handled a nuclear powered probe than I had at the time of the Voyager program. I would certainly want adequate funding to make those quality checks that seemed to be skipped lately and hiring enough system controllers to reduce fatigue and have enough cross-checking at critical points.
Also, the radicals do sometimes serve a purpose in any movement you can think of. They keep issues live and frequently win maneuvering room that can be used my the moderates. I don't take Usenet seriously, it generally only attracts the most loud and roudy on any topic. The only environment that might be worse would be AOL chat rooms. Consider also, that we only see what the media chooses or is directed to cover. Rational scientists debating the wisdom of a Cassini flyby don't draw in the ratings the way sign-banging radicals would.
As to your other proposals. As long as a substantical population remains on Earth, you need substantial industry just for support and supply. Considering that the repair of a simple pressurised room involved lots of people over months of time, we simply don't have the technology or the capability of running huge factory style operations in space. And given the low efficiency involved, I have problems with the idea of sending gigawatts of microwaves through the atmosphere just to get megawatts on the ground. Space has an important place in mankind's future, but not the primary role that enthuiasts seem to envision.
Not yet, at least not from what I've seen in DP3, although X should be a lot more polished when it finally reaches Consumer release, whereas Amiga OS does exist in a polished form now. One major shortfall is the realtive isolation of the "Classic" environment. At present it needs an entirely separate IP from X, and a lot of "Classic" apps are more than likely to take a significant speed hit when running under this environment.
Not surprising. Schwartz used to have a CD of Amiga animations that can still be found advertised in Euro Amiga magazines. (And yes, Sabrina's on it too.:)
In many ways, what defined the Amiga was the culture that grew up around it. The Amiga crowd resembles the Linux folks in many ways, after all there is a good deal of overlap.
A key difference however is ease of use. AmigaOS has some of the better advantages of Linux/Unix, i.e. pre-emptive multi-tasking, virtual screens, but it was and is a lot easier to install and configure than Linux with X. BeOS tried the "new Amiga approach", but it's barely more active than Commodore was during it's fading days.
An operating system that brings the power of Unix with the ease of Amiga OS can rightly claim it's mantle, provided it develops a similar following.
I've tried the GIMP on the same machine that I use Photoshop, a Yosemite G3 PowerMac. The Gimp is very good, for a free application. But it's a loooong way to go before you can even approach the feature set of Photoshop. At Linuxworld NY, I ran into an old Amiga name now apparantly reincarnated into the Linux world... Photogenics . If this, or ImageFX makes it's way into PPC Linux, they'd both fly onto my desktop in an instant. I'm not sure I'd give up Photoshop for even these two, but I'd rather have a couple of more tools than I need than one less.
Andover will probably have a cow over my saying this, but don't take this site too seriously. It may be a snapshot of the "community" as you put it, but it's on the same level of quality (or possibly less) as three blind men describing an elephant. Slashdot itself has become irrevocably altered by the infamous/. effect. And most of the people who actually DO things and make the big decisions simply don't have the time to even lurk here, much less post on a regular basis. Slashdot can be and is a great resource, just as long as you take a good deal of salt on the side.
Slashdot... it's not just for unix geeks anymore.
Just to be curious, besides reading Slashdot posts, how are you pursuing your research?
No it isn't. But then nothing ever is. There's always new technologies, new needs. There's still much to be done before Linux becomes a true alternative to the how shall I put it?.... the "not so geek-enabled?" One thing that I personally want to see is a backup and restore solution that's as easy to use as Retrospect.
As far as users go, as the movie says, "Build it and they will come." Linux is still not quite "built" yet.
Let's be fair here. The "granola mystics" as jamesec unfairly names them, aren't afraid (at least the educated ones which are more than you think) of Cassini becoming a mini nuke. Plutonium 238, while not fissionable is just as nasty to the biosphere as 239. The watchdogs do serve a purpose, if only to keep NASA honest about such things. A few decades back, a NASA contractor got pretty sloppy about a liquid oxygen tank that was dropped in manufacture. About 2 years later, the damage would blow out the side of the Apollo 13 service module.
The space enthuisasts and the environmental groups should be allies more often then at odds. Both sides share fault in this, but in my opinion, the arrogance of the techheads has done most of the damage.
Ion drives still need a source of electrical power, in fact you'd need a bigger power budget because of it. Also, you'd still need chemical fuel for maneuvering and positioning thrusters, and Galileo is running low on that.
Prior to the Voyager missions, NASA had proposed a "Grand Tour" Project that was to take advantage of the planetary alignment. However Grand Tour was scrapped, although apparantly still haunting the dreams of NASA planners. The Grand Tour option was left in for Voyager 2, but only if mission planners didn't decide that a second look at Titan would be more important. The trajectory diffences between the two really diverged at Saturn. Voyager 2 continued along the plane of the ecliptic, whereas Voyager 1 was thrown almost vertically "up". Up being defined as in the same direction as the Sun's North Pole. (The Sun, like Jupiter has very little tilt in relation to the ecliptic.)
You then run into the same problem a la' Alternic. Sure, you can run your own "pirate" TLD root server. But unless the gatekeepsers at dot itself recongise it no one is going to find any the domains on that list unless their ISP decides to bypass the rest of the Internet to find your domains.
If you want to keep the Internet unified, then then you need that single . to centralise things. So the real policy debates are all about how . should be run.
Network Solutions gets a lot of the credit for this trend. If you register a.com name, whether or not you were successful, they'd push the.org and.net versions on you as well, as suggested click options.
Anonymous Coward on 06:37 PM March 7th, 2000 EST (#199)writes:
"Wealth and jobs are necessary and healthy. Anything that tends to create wealth and jobs is, by definition, necessary and healthy."
In New Jersey, It's been a practise by some to create wealth by poisoning the water supply of community that surrounds you in order to pick up the compeititive advantage of not putting in pollution controls. It was probably considerably healthy for someone's bank balance, but the resulting cancer spikes and other ailments might cause some to question your definition of healthy.
Slak on 03:01 PM March 7th, 2000 writes: "Furthermore, what happens when I'm playing my _William Shattner Sings_ on my computer and it copies portions of the CD to memory which could be swap space on my hard-drive?"
If you did it in Manhattan, Rudy Giuliani just might prosecute it as a "Quality of Life" crime.
Lucas writes: "If you don't like the terms is being given to you on, find a new band to listen to that's sigend to a different label that allows you to do what you want. Make your own label, and try to convince bands to sign up... Then wince when your policy to allow MP3's comes back to bite you when you realize that it is actually a bit harder to make money now... "
Interestingly enough, in a Quicktime interview on the CD included with the March MacAddict,rapper Ice-T goes into this subject at some length. He's doing exactly that, forming his own label, Coroner Records, moving heavily into MP3 and even allowing his customers the option of using Mixman to remix his work. Whatever happens, the results should be educational.
Taking that statement for granted would be dangerously idiotic.. It's been an established precedent even before the digital age that going out to the audio store and purchasing a 45 does NOT give you unlimited carte' blanche to do what you will with it. One example comes to mind, you can't just take said 45 (or said CD now) to the restaurant, tavern, etc...) and just plop into your jukebox. without living under the specture of legal hounds beating down your door. (this scenario is a lot more likely if you're running a club at a hot spot like, Manhattan, but it still leagally applies everywhere in the USA)
Has to how the AHRA impacts on domestic MP3 use, it'll probably not be settled without a court challenge. I could definitely see where Beam-IT could be used to circumvent the fees that jukebox users normally pay and this is probably one of the things that RIAA has in mind.
When the Apollo 12 astronauts took back some pieces of Surveyer 3 that had landed there a couple of years earler, live bacteria were found.
Galileo was "sterilised" and kept in a "clean" environment. This is mainly to eliminate the slight risk of contamination that might still remain. Bacteria and viri are tough survivors.
Only problem with that thought is that Galileo doesn't have enough delta-v left to do anything but adjust it's orbit. There's no chance of it escaping Jupiter's gravity.
I wonder how many of our now derelict space craft are kept under track. There's also the Apollo 10 and 11 ascent stages that are out there as well. (They were shot into solar orbit when their missions were completed. The ascent modules from 12,14 and up were deliberately impacted for seismic experimentation.
Gee, I guess I better tell all those folks at Tommy Hilfiger, Conde'Nast, Time Warner, et. al. to just hang it up.
Macs dominate one pro area for good reason. Desktop publishing. Quark Xpress, PageMaker, Photoshop, (sorry GIMP fans, but the GIMP is no Photoshop) all these things work far better on the Mac than their Windows ports. Check out your high end Heidelberg scanners, digital camera backs, or the work being done on your bus wraps and it'll generally be a Macintosh. It has nothing to do about what's the faster CPU, the OS window widgets, whatever. It has to do with where the software tools that do the work in the less time are. I've seen DTP departments in several companies forced by idiot IT and accountant people to trade in their Macs for Windows machines, and watch their productivity curves go to hell until management wakes up and brings the Macs back.
Macs may not be the proper tools for command-line warriors and ISP Server gods, but they have a place in which they rule and second place is a distant second.
Font Management. Windows font management is a joke and Linux font management is... nonexistant.
Or perhaps One Of No Name, many of our readers don't have a clue. Slashdot isn't the place that it used to be just. It's more like the out of the way club that's been discovered by the mainstream. The population is larger, it's different and the rules change.
Slashdot still is a place for and about geeks. But to paraphrase Pope. I think we can get out of the "Proper Study of Geeks is...." debate.
Apple is only bothering with the Aqua style front end on the main consumer pages that draw the bulk of webtourist traffic.
The PPC page does conform to the style for Apple's TIL pages, it's what's used when you go to software updates. Which is fine by me as it keeps the page rapidly downloadable. It's thanks to the PPC page that I found out that there is a fourth derivation of Linux for PPC, Turbo Linux from Pacific Tech, as well as links to BootX.
For my viewpoint, I'll simply take it as it is. Something of use mainly to Apple users curious about linux. The page in a way, might be taken as an Apple "seal of approval" for Linux and just might bring a few more Apple users into the fold.
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Actually according to the Witnesses, from text that I read, the 144,000 chosen ones are the ones spared from Revelation and due to their innate "goodness" will enter Heaven. The rest of the virtous (including the resurrected dead) get to enjoy a physical Paradise on a remade Earth. (presumably with enough living space to handle the extra load) The Chosen ones as I understand it are to asisst Christ in governing the new Earth.
We've had test cases in our own history. The first voyages to the New World, to Cathay, and the uknown reaches of Africa were seen in those days in the same kind of light that voyaging to another planet would seem to us. The peoples inhabiting those unseen far off lands did not have their humanity taken for granted. Science Fiction has explored the topic at length, usually in short story format. Bablylon 5 touched the subject occasionally, and Deep Space 9 missed a great opportunity by ignoring the topic altogether. (What would Christians and Bajorans have to say to each other? Or better yet, how about Bajorans and the followers of Islam?)
The most likely reactions depend on two possiblities. 1. The discovery is nothing more than a statistical phomomenon, a radio anomaly that's significant enough to be artificial, but too distant and weak to be intelligible. In that case, most religious types, like just about everyone else would pretty much ignore it once the novelty has passed off.
2.The second possibility is evidence on the level of Carl Sagan's Contact. In that scenario, you probably will have a spectrum of reactions ranging from rejection to outright accomodation into existing worldviews. I would suspect that most Christian leaders would think long and hard before pronouncing an alien race free from Original Sin, and might even start thinking about missionary programs like the predecessors of centuries ago.
Religions evolve as the world expands. Sometimes it's just moderate ways, like the continual pushback of Armageddon by the Jehovah's Witnesses', others more dramatic and profound as formerly suppressed groups (i.e. women, minoriites) start flexing economic muscle.
As to the impact of actually finding a habited habitable world? (I ABSOLUTELY REFUSE TO USE TREK TERMS) Unless we actually pick up a stray radio broadcast from a twin to Arecibo out there, the technology required to do so is far enough away, that by the time (if) it's developed, we'll be changed enough to make answering the question now, a meaningless exercise.
I was paying attention to the Cassini protests, and reading a couple of more serious books published on Cassini hazards as well. I'm a bit skeptical on the tests NASA's made about the RTG safety however, I'd read NASA's worse case scenario studys, the one's I read only covered launch as opposed to the Earth flyby scenario, which would have resulted in a considerably more dangerous scenario considering the high speed involved in the Earth flyby. While the Plutonium used does have a relatively short half life, we're still talking major short-term damage if enough was released over a populated area. I would have preferred the use of a larger booster, or perhaps grouped boosters put together in orbit over an Earth flyby, but we don't have the techniques down yet for that last option. Considering that NASA seems to be having major problems with the implementation of "faster, better, cheaper", I have considerably less confidence in letting them handled a nuclear powered probe than I had at the time of the Voyager program. I would certainly want adequate funding to make those quality checks that seemed to be skipped lately and hiring enough system controllers to reduce fatigue and have enough cross-checking at critical points.
Also, the radicals do sometimes serve a purpose in any movement you can think of. They keep issues live and frequently win maneuvering room that can be used my the moderates. I don't take Usenet seriously, it generally only attracts the most loud and roudy on any topic. The only environment that might be worse would be AOL chat rooms. Consider also, that we only see what the media chooses or is directed to cover. Rational scientists debating the wisdom of a Cassini flyby don't draw in the ratings the way sign-banging radicals would.
As to your other proposals. As long as a substantical population remains on Earth, you need substantial industry just for support and supply. Considering that the repair of a simple pressurised room involved lots of people over months of time, we simply don't have the technology or the capability of running huge factory style operations in space. And given the low efficiency involved, I have problems with the idea of sending gigawatts of microwaves through the atmosphere just to get megawatts on the ground. Space has an important place in mankind's future, but not the primary role that enthuiasts seem to envision.
Not yet, at least not from what I've seen in DP3, although X should be a lot more polished when it finally reaches Consumer release, whereas Amiga OS does exist in a polished form now. One major shortfall is the realtive isolation of the "Classic" environment. At present it needs an entirely separate IP from X, and a lot of "Classic" apps are more than likely to take a significant speed hit when running under this environment.
Not surprising. Schwartz used to have a CD of Amiga animations that can still be found advertised in Euro Amiga magazines. (And yes, Sabrina's on it too. :)
In many ways, what defined the Amiga was the culture that grew up around it. The Amiga crowd resembles the Linux folks in many ways, after all there is a good deal of overlap.
A key difference however is ease of use. AmigaOS has some of the better advantages of Linux/Unix, i.e. pre-emptive multi-tasking, virtual screens, but it was and is a lot easier to install and configure than Linux with X. BeOS tried the "new Amiga approach", but it's barely more active than Commodore was during it's fading days.
An operating system that brings the power of Unix with the ease of Amiga OS can rightly claim it's mantle, provided it develops a similar following.
I've tried the GIMP on the same machine that I use Photoshop, a Yosemite G3 PowerMac. The Gimp is very good, for a free application. But it's a loooong way to go before you can even approach the feature set of Photoshop. At Linuxworld NY, I ran into an old Amiga name now apparantly reincarnated into the Linux world... Photogenics . If this, or ImageFX makes it's way into PPC Linux, they'd both fly onto my desktop in an instant. I'm not sure I'd give up Photoshop for even these two, but I'd rather have a couple of more tools than I need than one less.
Andover will probably have a cow over my saying this, but don't take this site too seriously. It may be a snapshot of the "community" as you put it, but it's on the same level of quality (or possibly less) as three blind men describing an elephant. Slashdot itself has become irrevocably altered by the infamous /. effect. And most of the people who actually DO things and make the big decisions simply don't have the time to even lurk here, much less post on a regular basis. Slashdot can be and is a great resource, just as long as you take a good deal of salt on the side.
Slashdot... it's not just for unix geeks anymore.
Just to be curious, besides reading Slashdot posts, how are you pursuing your research?
No it isn't. But then nothing ever is. There's always new technologies, new needs. There's still much to be done before Linux becomes a true alternative to the how shall I put it?.... the "not so geek-enabled?" One thing that I personally want to see is a backup and restore solution that's as easy to use as Retrospect.
As far as users go, as the movie says, "Build it and they will come." Linux is still not quite "built" yet.
Let's be fair here. The "granola mystics" as jamesec unfairly names them, aren't afraid (at least the educated ones which are more than you think) of Cassini becoming a mini nuke. Plutonium 238, while not fissionable is just as nasty to the biosphere as 239. The watchdogs do serve a purpose, if only to keep NASA honest about such things. A few decades back, a NASA contractor got pretty sloppy about a liquid oxygen tank that was dropped in manufacture. About 2 years later, the damage would blow out the side of the Apollo 13 service module.
The space enthuisasts and the environmental groups should be allies more often then at odds. Both sides share fault in this, but in my opinion, the arrogance of the techheads has done most of the damage.
Ion drives still need a source of electrical power, in fact you'd need a bigger power budget because of it. Also, you'd still need chemical fuel for maneuvering and positioning thrusters, and Galileo is running low on that.
Prior to the Voyager missions, NASA had proposed a "Grand Tour" Project that was to take advantage of the planetary alignment. However Grand Tour was scrapped, although apparantly still haunting the dreams of NASA planners. The Grand Tour option was left in for Voyager 2, but only if mission planners didn't decide that a second look at Titan would be more important. The trajectory diffences between the two really diverged at Saturn. Voyager 2 continued along the plane of the ecliptic, whereas Voyager 1 was thrown almost vertically "up". Up being defined as in the same direction as the Sun's North Pole. (The Sun, like Jupiter has very little tilt in relation to the ecliptic.)
You then run into the same problem a la' Alternic. Sure, you can run your own "pirate" TLD root server. But unless the gatekeepsers at dot itself recongise it no one is going to find any the domains on that list unless their ISP decides to bypass the rest of the Internet to find your domains.
If you want to keep the Internet unified, then then you need that single . to centralise things. So the real policy debates are all about how . should be run.
Network Solutions gets a lot of the credit for this trend. If you register a .com name, whether or not you were successful, they'd push the .org and .net versions on you as well, as suggested click options.
Anonymous Coward on 06:37 PM March 7th, 2000 EST (#199)writes:
"Wealth and jobs are necessary and healthy. Anything that tends to create wealth and jobs is, by definition, necessary and healthy."
In New Jersey, It's been a practise by some to create wealth by poisoning the water supply of community that surrounds you in order to pick up the compeititive advantage of not putting in pollution controls. It was probably considerably healthy for someone's bank balance, but the resulting cancer spikes and other ailments might cause some to question your definition of healthy.
Slak on 03:01 PM March 7th, 2000 writes: "Furthermore, what happens when I'm playing my _William Shattner Sings_ on my computer and it copies portions of the CD to memory which could be swap space on my hard-drive?"
If you did it in Manhattan, Rudy Giuliani just might prosecute it as a "Quality of Life" crime.
Lucas writes:
"If you don't like the terms is being given to you on, find a new band to listen to that's sigend to a different label that allows you to do what you want. Make your own label, and try to convince bands to sign up... Then wince when your policy to allow MP3's comes back to bite you when you realize that it is actually a bit harder to make money now... "
Interestingly enough, in a Quicktime interview on the CD included with the March MacAddict,rapper Ice-T goes into this subject at some length. He's doing exactly that, forming his own label, Coroner Records, moving heavily into MP3 and even allowing his customers the option of using Mixman to remix his work. Whatever happens, the results should be educational.
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Taking that statement for granted would be dangerously idiotic.. It's been an established precedent even before the digital age that going out to the audio store and purchasing a 45 does NOT give you unlimited carte' blanche to do what you will with it. One example comes to mind, you can't just take said 45 (or said CD now) to the restaurant, tavern, etc...) and just plop into your jukebox. without living under the specture of legal hounds beating down your door. (this scenario is a lot more likely if you're running a club at a hot spot like, Manhattan, but it still leagally applies everywhere in the USA)
Has to how the AHRA impacts on domestic MP3 use, it'll probably not be settled without a court challenge. I could definitely see where Beam-IT could be used to circumvent the fees that jukebox users normally pay and this is probably one of the things that RIAA has in mind.
When the Apollo 12 astronauts took back some pieces of Surveyer 3 that had landed there a couple of years earler, live bacteria were found.
Galileo was "sterilised" and kept in a "clean" environment. This is mainly to eliminate the slight risk of contamination that might still remain. Bacteria and viri are tough survivors.
Only problem with that thought is that Galileo doesn't have enough delta-v left to do anything but adjust it's orbit. There's no chance of it escaping Jupiter's gravity.
I wonder how many of our now derelict space craft are kept under track. There's also the Apollo 10 and 11 ascent stages that are out there as well. (They were shot into solar orbit when their missions were completed. The ascent modules from 12,14 and up were deliberately impacted for seismic experimentation.
Gee, I guess I better tell all those folks at Tommy Hilfiger, Conde'Nast, Time Warner, et. al. to just hang it up.
Macs dominate one pro area for good reason. Desktop publishing. Quark Xpress, PageMaker, Photoshop, (sorry GIMP fans, but the GIMP is no Photoshop) all these things work far better on the Mac than their Windows ports. Check out your high end Heidelberg scanners, digital camera backs, or the work being done on your bus wraps and it'll generally be a Macintosh. It has nothing to do about what's the faster CPU, the OS window widgets, whatever. It has to do with where the software tools that do the work in the less time are. I've seen DTP departments in several companies forced by idiot IT and accountant people to trade in their Macs for Windows machines, and watch their productivity curves go to hell until management wakes up and brings the Macs back.
Macs may not be the proper tools for command-line warriors and ISP Server gods, but they have a place in which they rule and second place is a distant second.
Font Management. Windows font management is a joke and Linux font management is... nonexistant.
Right tool for the job, it's as simple as that.
Actually the Sony 1394 port (called iLink) isn't totally FireWire compatible. In fact, I think the only thing that it's rated for is for DV Cameras.
Firewire hard drives, Zips, and that neat portable RAID are pretty much locked out, at least at present.
Or perhaps One Of No Name, many of our readers don't have a clue. Slashdot isn't the place that it used to be just. It's more like the out of the way club that's been discovered by the mainstream. The population is larger, it's different and the rules change.
Slashdot still is a place for and about geeks. But to paraphrase Pope. I think we can get out of the "Proper Study of Geeks is...." debate.
Spoken like a proper AC
Snack Cake wonders if this is a real Apple page.
Apple is only bothering with the Aqua style front end on the main consumer pages that draw the bulk of webtourist traffic.
The PPC page does conform to the style for Apple's TIL pages, it's what's used when you go to software updates. Which is fine by me as it keeps the page rapidly downloadable. It's thanks to the PPC page that I found out that there is a fourth derivation of Linux for PPC, Turbo Linux from Pacific Tech, as well as links to BootX.
For my viewpoint, I'll simply take it as it is. Something of use mainly to Apple users curious about linux. The page in a way, might be taken as an Apple "seal of approval" for Linux and just might bring a few more Apple users into the fold.