I think "Your Mileage May Vary" applies, and with that said here's my two cents. Opinions will obviously vary-- this is just mine.
Chicago is also one of the most unfriendly, anti-intellectual, angry, boorish places on the planet. I was plenty happy to leave my hometown (Chicago) and not look back six and a half years ago... and when I finally got around to visiting in July to pick up some good food (one of the place's few redeeming qualities) the people were as obnoxious and brusque as they ever had been.
One improvement since I cleared out in '96 though: the term "web site" now can actually be uttered in casual conversation, say in a bar, without somebody walking up to you and telling you "I don't come here to talk about work so stop (expletive) talking about computers."
You may find a job there, but don't expect your profession or your abilities to be even moderately respected, with the possible exception of working inside an IT-centric firm. This is the same city whose mayor, back in 1997 or 1998, said that they were going to prove that Chi could be a hi-tech center on par with Silicon Valley... by putting up an office building prewired for Internet access. Big brouhaha. Wow.
Good luck. And stay away from Portland, OR. Great place but the job market is torched beyond recognition, which renders its niceness A-1 moot.
At the risk of stating the obvious, what planet do you live on where technical information you provide to sales staff actually finds its way into a database that the technical support staff uses post-sales?:)
I think attributing this sales guy's demand to know to an attempt to facilitate technical support is a stretch at best. It may, on the other hand, have something to do with M$ penalizing HW vendors that sell non-Windows-bearing boxes when they do so (well-documented fact).
Even better is that they tuck it under c:\program files\common files\media. Anyone claiming they're not trying to make this look innocuous is out of their mind.
# ARIN Whois database, last updated 2002-10-24 19:05
We threw this thing on a test box and sniffed it, and decided to blackhole the entire Class C. Following the install process we noted communications with 65.89.168.4, 65.89.168.14, 12.107.125.99 (an AT&T Worldnet address, also blackholed now).
We also saw comms with 207.46.230.220, a Microsoft address; we didn't blackhole this one, figuring it might be in the mix due to certificate revocation list checking during the install or something.
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Chicago is also one of the most unfriendly, anti-intellectual, angry, boorish places on the planet. I was plenty happy to leave my hometown (Chicago) and not look back six and a half years ago... and when I finally got around to visiting in July to pick up some good food (one of the place's few redeeming qualities) the people were as obnoxious and brusque as they ever had been.
One improvement since I cleared out in '96 though: the term "web site" now can actually be uttered in casual conversation, say in a bar, without somebody walking up to you and telling you "I don't come here to talk about work so stop (expletive) talking about computers."
You may find a job there, but don't expect your profession or your abilities to be even moderately respected, with the possible exception of working inside an IT-centric firm. This is the same city whose mayor, back in 1997 or 1998, said that they were going to prove that Chi could be a hi-tech center on par with Silicon Valley... by putting up an office building prewired for Internet access. Big brouhaha. Wow.
Good luck. And stay away from Portland, OR. Great place but the job market is torched beyond recognition, which renders its niceness A-1 moot.
At the risk of stating the obvious, what planet do you live on where technical information you provide to sales staff actually finds its way into a database that the technical support staff uses post-sales? :)
I think attributing this sales guy's demand to know to an attempt to facilitate technical support is a stretch at best. It may, on the other hand, have something to do with M$ penalizing HW vendors that sell non-Windows-bearing boxes when they do so (well-documented fact).
Even better is that they tuck it under c:\program files\common files\media. Anyone claiming they're not trying to make this look innocuous is out of their mind.
www .friendgreetings.com = 65.89.168.4
ARIN information:
Search results for: ! NET-65-89-168-0-1
CustName: Free Yankee
Address: 11778 Election Draper UT 84020
Country: US
RegDate: 2002-10-17
Updated: 2002-10-17
NetRange: 65.89.168.0 - 65.89.168.255
CIDR: 65.89.168.0/24
NetName: BRW-9924-FREEYANKEE
NetHandle: NET-65-89-168-0-1
Parent: NET-65-88-0-0-1
NetType: Reassigned
Comment:
RegDate: 2002-10-17
Updated: 2002-10-17
# ARIN Whois database, last updated 2002-10-24 19:05
We threw this thing on a test box and sniffed it, and decided to blackhole the entire Class C. Following the install process we noted communications with 65.89.168.4, 65.89.168.14, 12.107.125.99 (an AT&T Worldnet address, also blackholed now).
We also saw comms with 207.46.230.220, a Microsoft address; we didn't blackhole this one, figuring it might be in the mix due to certificate revocation list checking during the install or something.
Actually, McAffee *does* filter it.